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3682190 No.3682190 [Reply] [Original]

Who is the greatest painter?

>> No.3682192

>>3682190
Bach
Shakespeare
?

>> No.3682197

>>3682190
Loomis

>> No.3682212

>>3682190
You are, anon ^_^

>> No.3682215

>>3682190
Definitely not Van Gogh
I wish Hitler would have won and stopped all this modern "art" retardation
Thanks to people like him, Picasso, etc, nowadays people can make millions by selling shit in a can.

>> No.3682216

>>3682215
Hitler was against (((modern art))), Van Gogh died before (((it))) was even a thing.
(((Modern art))) is purely and simply a Jewish swindle very much in the same vein as the (((diamond market))).

>> No.3682218

ilya kuvshinov

>> No.3682225

>>3682216
>Hitler was against (((modern art)))
By "him" I meant Van Gogh, if that wasn't clear.

>>3682216
>(((Modern art))) is purely and simply a Jewish swindle
Probably. Picasso had a close relationship with art dealer (((Paul Rosenberg))). The Rosenberg brothers were one of the major (((modern art))) dealers

>> No.3682226

>>3682218
nice meme Anon but you should have said Kyle for advanced memery

>> No.3682255

>>3682216
>Jewish
There's that word again

>> No.3682286

>>3682190
Pollock

>> No.3682309

Why are classica painters so boring? (well, I suppose the answer is just the subject matter and their take on reality, cause of course their technique is good)

>> No.3682335

Klimt you fucking plebs

>> No.3682337

>>3682335
>klimt
>you plebs

dude gold leaf lmao

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>>3682309
Boring? How can muscular baby Jesus be boring to you?

>> No.3682373

Sakimichan cuz she makes tonz of monei.

>> No.3682446

Schiele desu

>> No.3683329
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>>3682309
What do you mean? Classical realism? academic art? Neo-classical? or from the classic era?

>>3682190
I don't think there is a best one but i like Ilya Repin a lot.

>> No.3683484

>>3682255
yeah

>> No.3683536
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3683536

Reminder that modern art was funded by CIA niggers during the cold war. Modern art is for statist faggots.

>> No.3683750
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>>3682190
Claude Monet. Every other answer is wrong.

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>>3683536
Reminder that Diogenes was an incel retard

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>>3683750
>Thinking there is one greatest painter.
Absolutely barbaric.

>> No.3683761

>>3683329
why does everyone post the color corrected version

>> No.3683765

>>3683760
holy shot that is impressive

>> No.3683769
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>>3683761
I don't know i got mine from my art collection, not from 4chan. Not sure where i got it tho, but i agree the other version is better.

>>3683765
Glad you like it.

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>>3682215
>hitler was a NGMI
>couldn't even do basic faces
>edgelords like you think he was some super underrated gem

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3683774

Me

>> No.3683775
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>> No.3683779

>>3682215
>>3683771
oh also

hitler: https://abluteau.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/hitler1_1372309c.jpg

picasso: https://www.mcguilmet.com/uploads/3/0/3/5/3035519/4217857_orig.jpg

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>>3683775

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>> No.3683821

>>3683760
>denying a fact
Poor soul...

>> No.3683824

>>3683821
Not even a frog would be this retarded, i am sure you are a liberal 'murican who tries to act cultured.

>> No.3683828

>>3683824
Raté :^)

>> No.3683840

>>3683329
>What do you mean? Classical realism? academic art? Neo-classical? or
Basically all of the above. I suppose there are exceptions tho, this one is stunning.

>> No.3683860
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>>3683840
Well you can find such a diverse amount of subjects in "pre-modern" art. I would have agreed with you if you were talking about academic art which is only great if you understand which classical stories they are depicting.

An other painting by Ilya Repin, this is probably his most famous work.

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>>3683860
>>3683769

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>> No.3683941

>>3682216
ITT: 14 year olds

>> No.3683955

>>3683860
>>3683890
>>3683901
>>3683934
who is art like this for exactly?

I just don't get it.

Who has time to look at all those little details, it's so superfluous. Beads of sweat on a face, every leaf on a tree, isn't it better to just get the big picture of a piece and move on?

Academic art is so... unneccessary. Even art in the Renaissance, albeit it took a very long time, was very simple in terms of what it was for the eye to look at. The broad shapes and colors and values were appeasing to the eye.

With these pieces my eye is straining to find something to rest on.

Sure the compositions are altogether normal, but then your eye tries to focus on a particular spot and it literally hurts because you have to focus in so hard to find the brush strokes.

The academic tradition of removing all brush strokes doesn't work, and never will, because at the end of the day it's still paint. Trying to make it anything more is not only foolhardy, it's pretentious, like all art like these 4.

>> No.3683957

>>3683955
Art shouldn't make you look away, and academic art and digital art makes me recoil because it's so pornographic.


For as degenerate as /ic/ makes avant garde art to be, at the very least it's inviting to look at. This stuff is just... disgusting.

>> No.3683960
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3683960

>cntl_f REMB 0/0
yall dum

>> No.3683962
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3683962

Whistler

>> No.3683963

>>3682190
Illastrat

>> No.3683964

>>3683756
Diogenes seems like the type of dude to slay. He’s on another plane of not giving a fuck

>> No.3683965

>>3683960
My versions are to big to upload.

>> No.3683975

>>3683536
True, but some modern art is ok. It really depends on where you draw your timeline.

Also the CIA had their own personal gallery where they patroned traditional realist art.

>> No.3683983

>>3683934
>>3683934
I'll take this example, it's boring to me cause it's trying to depict reality without adding anything to it, and the angle chosen is boring, it's desperatly flat and I don't get how you can stop on this and be touched for more than one second.

I sincerely believe that our storytelling abilities in general evolved with time.

Pure technical skills is another story, but we're depicting stories (which can be one painting of course, not comics or whatever) with more effectives techniques and more variety.

I mean what's even the point of this painting?

>> No.3683984

For me, it's Surikov

>> No.3684019

>>3683955
>Who has time to look at all those little details, it's so superfluous
People who take the time.

>Academic art is so... unneccessary
No it wasn't

>With these pieces my eye is straining to find something to rest on.
>and it literally hurts because you have to focus in so hard to find the brush strokes.
Why are you such a faggot?

> it's pretentious
You are preeeetentious.

>> No.3684031

>>3683983
I see your point but it might not be very artistic, but it is 350 years old painted by what he saw with his own eyes, i value art depicting it's own time. I agree that it looks somewhat flat, but all the activity gives it a lot of dynamic, i also like the contrast between the sky and the ship, i think that is pretty rare for that time.

An other reason i like it is because it is my home country, and it's history.

>> No.3684044

>>3682190
Da Vinci

>> No.3684048

>>3682347
Me on the left

>> No.3684058

>>3684019
>muh sargent
>muh anime
>muh le wrong generation

>> No.3684065

>>3684058
None of those, you are just a pretentious faggot that never gets called out for it. The fact that you claim academic art is unnecessary shows how incredibly uneducated you are.

>> No.3684084

It's really impossible to name any one BEST painter. There's no doubt though that the greatest renaissance painters were among the best technically of all time, although lets be real the landscape backgrounds were corny as fuck and repetitive, it was the style of the time.

AND even then the renaissance did at times reach emotional places that can equal the intensity of modern art of edvard munch or picasso.

I would argue you're gonna find your best artist among the post impressionist/impressionist age of art in europe or the renaissance.

Baroque, Roccoco, Neoclassical, never reached the heights that the renaissance touched.

>> No.3684093

>>3684084

Although to add onto this, Caravaggio, Rubens, and Rembrandt are among the Goats of all time, still i don't think the movement as a whole equaled the renaissance.

>> No.3684176 [DELETED] 

>>3683774
this is only pretty good

>> No.3684179

>>3684044
not as good as van gogh imo

>> No.3685644

>>3682190
not a painter, but Gustave Dore is one of the best visual artists ever

>> No.3685646 [DELETED] 

>>3682190
pretty bad answers ITT

>> No.3685650 [DELETED] 

>>3684084
Rubens is the best of those three imo and i don't think that Carvaggio, Rubens, or Rembrandt are nearly as good as van Gogh. in addition to your suggestions, maybe a Dutch Golden Age person is the best artist imo

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3685657

I'm very fond of Richter

>> No.3685982

>>3685657
gerhard richter is really cool, you might like krishna reddy

>> No.3686060

>>3685657
Why is that one man naked?

>> No.3686387

John Singer Sargent

>> No.3686858

>>3682190
I think it's a Frenchman, a Dutchman, or an Italian

>> No.3686859

>>3686858
Probably from before the 1800s, which means he's probably Dutch or Italian

>> No.3687367 [DELETED] 

>>3686859
Probably a Dutch guy, therefore probably Van Gogh

>> No.3687613

William Adolphe Bougeareau, Botticelli, Gustav Klimt, and many many more

>> No.3687675

>>3682347
LMAO art influenced by the Catholic Church is such a fucking meme

>> No.3687699

>>3687675
>Art influenced by the Catholic Church
Please be bait, nobody can be this retarded

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>>3687613

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>>3683960
I’ve been trying to find out what crystal ball head weird character is for a while.
Anyone know?

>> No.3687845

>>3682286
sure, jerking it with a cup of paint in your hands is true art

>> No.3687870
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>>3682190
A bad question, like any artform, painting has a lot of different avenues to follow, often at odds with eachother, no one can be great at all of them at the same time.

That being said, my two favorites are Bouguereau and Beksisnki.

>>3682215
>>3682216
>>3683536
>Brainlets that take modern art advancements for granted and can't tell the difference between pollock and Kandinsky.
Just like an Anti Vaxxer saying how we don't need vaccines because no one has polio anymore.

>> No.3687871

>>3687832
It's just the back of a helmet, my dude. Pretty short though, probably a child.

>> No.3687911

>>3687871
I see it.
Thanks.
I’ve been wondering for a while.

>> No.3687940
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Hard to compare the best but in terms of natural talent I'd actually say Akiane. Pic related she painted at age 13 with no formal training, and she's been painting gallery quality stuff since age 8. Unfortunatly she kinda plateaued in my opinion and her recent stuff is just kinda par for the course, but that child prodagy talent is only really comparable to Picasso.

And best artist in general instead of just paintings I'd say Michelangelo for his sculpture work

>> No.3687971

Hitler was utter trash. I challenge anyone who thinks highly of hitler in a duel

>> No.3687975

>>3682215
>>3687971
He sucked at painting people and was decent but not amazing at landscapes and buildings. If it weren't for his political career he would be entirely forgetable as an artist

>> No.3687980

>>3687971

I think he was one of the greatest men to ever walk the face of earth. I'd concede that he wasn't such a good painter though lol.

>> No.3688512

>>3687870
It's not a bad question even if there's no answer

>> No.3688518
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>>3683962
whistler's a fucking chad pick
he's the man

>> No.3688519

>>3687980
>I think he was one of the greatest men to ever walk the face of earth.
I hope you're just being ironic (in that case fuck you too). Hitler and all nazi """"""thinkers""""""" were opportunistic pseudointellectuals. Additionally no man can damn his country to lose by invading in 2 directions and trying to do the Final Solution and still be called great. He was a druggie retard

>> No.3688970

>>3682190
it is Gogh

>> No.3689550
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>>3685657
patrician

>> No.3689561

>>3688518
muddy as hell. yuck.

>> No.3689578

>>3682190
Beethoven
Shakespeare
Gogh

>> No.3690128

>>3683329
>>3683769
Honestly I consider this to be the best painting I've ever seen. It's amazing.

>> No.3690130

>>3683801
This is fucking incredible.

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>>3690128
Same artists depiction of judas

>> No.3690194

>>3690164
This stuff is so well made. I wonder if there's an artbook I can buy. I'll try to look into it.

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3690412

>ctrl + f
>craig mullins
>0 results

Are you fucking joshin me??

>> No.3690510
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3690510

Peter Paul Rubens was pretty GOAT for his time

>> No.3690603

>>3688512
It's a bad question because asking it implies a funadamental lack of understanding on how painting actually works.And encourages that lack of understanding.
A better questions would be who are the best painters and why.

>> No.3690611

>>3690510
>greatest of all time for his time

>> No.3690906

>>3690603
i do have a fundamental lack of understanding on how painting actually works, so therefore it can't be assumed that I and people like me should know that it's a bad question, therefore it's not bad

>> No.3690909

>>3690603
who are the best painters and why? i have some painters in mind for the best, but it is based purely on my eyes and mind because i am not a painter and i disagree that anyone can explain why

>> No.3690912

>>3690603
does it encourage lack of understanding because it makes ignorant people like me think that it's possible for someone to be the greatest? i still believe that there is greatest of everything. perhaps some painters are better at certain things than others, but i do take that into consideration when considering who i think the best is

>> No.3690920

>>3690412
>craig mullins
>painter

>> No.3691012

>>3689578
I was wrong,
Shakespeare
Bach
Gogh

>> No.3692801

Frederick Leighton.

>> No.3693351

>monet.

>> No.3693433
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Bellows

>> No.3693546

>>3690412
this is a tradfest try not to stir them up

>> No.3693763

>>3693433
cool painting, have never see

>> No.3693927

>>3683955
Sorry to say this, but you think these works can be boiled down to simpler things because you are simple-minded. There is character here that you're not seeing because maybe you're autistic or something. You shouldn't be looking for tiny brush strokes, I don't know why you thought that was the point of this style.

>> No.3694489

>>3683955
You have been hyperstimulated by media probably since before you could walk, and you live in a civilization with millions of people employed full time in producing mass entertainment with lifelike motion and sound. You're typing this on a box that can call up a video of a dragon tearing down a town or a space battle with hundreds of warships lazing each other to pieces over an exploding planet. You are probably completely accustomed to driving down a road at 70MPH and reacting to an environment flying by at speeds that would terrify someone from say, 1800.

The pace of life was slower in the past, and there were far fewer opportunities to look at *anything* that wasn't part of the humdrum environment you'd been looking at your whole life. If you saw something cool, you had to carry it in your memory or go back to see it again (or learn to draw).

You only saw these vast, detailed academic paintings if you went to the salons, kind of like going to the cinema, and the most vast, cosmopolitan empire might only have a few hundred painters working at the top level of talent, producing a few paintings a year.

That's not a personal criticism of you; it's just that our environment and inner life is vastly different from theirs.

For example, I remember going a couple years without a TV in college (pre netflix, didn't use youtube), and when my roommate brought one home, we were mesmerized by any stupid shit that came on... daytime court shows, etc were suddenly really interesting.