/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stanislav Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

*dabs on crabs*

>>3669926
whoever made that infographic should be necked

Tried lineart, what did i do wrong lads ?
How do i make it seems less flat ?

>>3669942
You’d be better off using that edge to draw straight.

>>3669952
I think begs should learn from someone who knows how to draw and not someone who learned from youtube tutorials six months ago

How many pencil per month did you guys burn when you started out?
I started loomis 2-3 hours each day for 5 days and I my pencil is at 2/3rd of it's life, digital artist need not reply, would just like to know of a pro's hard work through his pencil

>>3669944

The random shading on his forehead makes it flatter.

>>3669944
I hope you didn't trace it. It's good

>>3669961
its clearly traced, look at those soulless eyes

>>3669924
How do I learn how to draw big titty anime girls?

>>3670048
Learn perspective, construction, supplement with studying real life anatomy, and then draw a metric fuck ton of big titty anime girls.

Bad camera worse armor. How do I make it not feel 2D

>>3670103
Perfect answer right here.

Marc Leone has a very good basics course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtd6uwNFl9k&list=PLMXbAPr21di-Ox-dmDwL2riWedei1dn9S

>>3670114
That doesn't look too 2d, I like it.

Have a similar issue with faces from the front, though. They kinda look off somehow and feel flat, maybe it's the hair?

>>3669924
did some basic head training today
didnt draw for like a year... trying to get back into it

>>3670158
Also whats the fastest way to improve in drawing? my goal is to draw complete figures from my mind.. semirealistic style

>>3670163
Draw a lot, try out shit and experimenting a ton.

>>3670165
i read somewhere that drawing same shit over and over would lead to faster improvement, i mean drawing a lot is understandable, but drawing same exersizes till you perfect them then advancing is better or just drawing all kind of differnt stuff??

>>3670169
Try it out, maybe it works for you.

>>3670103
Thanks. Any specific place to start? The sticky mentions the "Drawing on the right side of the brain" which looks to be about drawing realistic things. I only want to draw cute anime shit, and anime girls with titties.

>>3670148
Nice tongue. 10/10 drool.

>>3670103
what the fuck is contruction? do you want me to learn how to fucking build a house?

>>3670169
only if you do it while thinking about it. look at the previous ones, compare to a reference, figure out your mistakes. the best way would be to change the orientation, ie draw the same head or object from a different point of view. do NOT draw it from the same angle or you'll just reinforce errors.

>>3670194
Construction is building up complex shapes out of simpler ones, such as cubes, spheres, and cylinders, then building from that base. Construction helps immensely with things like perspective, proportion, and spatial sense, especially when starting out. See Proko, Drawabox, Loomis, literally anything mentioned in the sticky or the OP of this very thread.

>>3670193
Thanks!

>>3670213
Pls do thiccc dranei thot ahegao next

>>3670190
To draw really cute anime girls you first need to know how draw a normal girl. Then you can do whatever you want to her - make her cute, ugly, buff, thin, chubby, and so on.

>>3670216
Planned for the weekend, getting practice in drawing thick thighs and hoofes. Not much experience though, only night elfs, goblins and gnomes so far.

>>3670190
>>3668222

>>3669924

Need advice, what's wrong guys.

>>3670227
Fuck now I gotta come back here to see that.
>>3670221
I'm going through Xabio Art's tutorials. It is painful to barely be able to do something better than a fucking stick figure girl.
>>3670240
Oh fuck ni-
>discord link in the op
God dammit.

>>3670264
Proportions. Awkward pose. Weird head.

>>3670264
Draw ideas, not things; action, not poses; gestures not anatomical structures.

>>3670285
>>3670292

New drawing, is this better ?

>>3670310

>>3670314
Proportions. Your arms are off. But keep trying just pay attention to proportions

How'd I do?

>>3670435
How do you think you did?

>>3670441
I think I'm brilliant.

>>3670443
Then you're beyond help

Just a sketch, no shades yet. My first anime/manga drawings ever. Should I change anything before I use proper liner and markers?

How's my grasp on folds and fabric?

>>3670488
Does it matter what we think? If you're going for realism you've definitely got a long way to go but you really shouldn't need us to tell you that.

>>3670492
What resources would you recommend?

>>3670522
Check the sticky.

>use brush that mimics charcoal
>normies eat my shit up
hmmm

>>3670441
pretty poor

>>3670158
dont know how valuable this is

I’ve been drawing dumb cartoons for about a year on and off and I’ve come far but this was my first dive into realism and it... didn’t turn out great. Granted the eyes aren’t dots but I don’t know how to stop semi-realistic digitals from looking flat out uncanny. Any help?

Is drawing accurately supposed to be really hard? Having a hard time with Keys to Drawing.

>>3670595
everything is really hard till you do it over and over again.

>>3670595
Well, most of the people on here are in their first one or two years of drawing properly. Think of the first years you took it seriously, with a sketchbook or something. I was 11 ffs, and it takes time to even be able to notice the flaws of your work to improve, so drawing accurately can be very difficult.

>>3670488
Fine but not great, the figure looks kinda shapeless

>>3670472
It’s cute but the chin/jaw is very fuckin pointy, and I’d say the eyes are pretty low

>>3670558
Alright. I'll do that at some point soon, then. I need to get a grasp on fabrics before going on to value studies.

>>3670613
I'll be sure to do this digitally, tomorrow. I have a hard time doing both the figure, and the clothing, traditionally, due to the lack of layers.

A drawing I've been stuck on. I don't know what to fill the back with. What would you think look cool in the background? Any comments on the figure?

>>3669924
I drew this little ghost-penguin. Then a friend pointed out I my drawings just look like Adventure Time rip-offs and I realized he was right and now I feel like an unoriginal piece of shit.

went back to using ms paint and drew shibuya rin

>>3670893
NGMI

>>3670893
Horrible.

>>3670893
I thought I told you to stop posting your bullshit.

>>3670638
figure looks pretty good, I say move on and make more

>>3670589
big eyes + big nose + big lips does not equal realism. its still cartooning, but probably less simplified than what your so called cartoon drawings look like. start by studying from real life photographs and try replicating the likeness to the best of your ability, then reflect on what you screwed up, try imagination drawing again, and repeat

>>3670589
Your style is quite different from realism (that is not a bad thing btw it's pretty cgood), I tried to give it justice with out using more midtones and restricting only to the colors you used but I obviously I can't do it like you. It is not easy to go realistic from a cartoonish pastel imagery.

For more realism look at your light sources their intensity and angle as they form the shape. On here I added filter layer that adds -40 brightness and +50 contrast. Then divided the background with a darker red half to make the light more apparent. Then also tried to make it like the left part is less lit and the right part more lit.

Then I changed some basic things, added more highlight to the eyelid and more shadow to the eyeball. Changed the nose to be more realistic, this is a big change compared to yours, changed the lips to be less ground added corners of the mouth and made the teeth also less flat by adding shading to the left side.

Also added some more detail to the neck and shoulders but that didn't really add much I feel.

what exercises should I focus on the most in order to improve anatomy?

>>3670978
Drawing the anatomy of body parts in different perspectives

>>3670695
being completely original is pretty much impossible at this point anon do not worry

>>3670472
>>3670472
She is really cute anon well done! Mostly I would change the shoulder area to make it more in line with the pose, the neck especially since the perspective looks downwards. Would also gibe her more curve with ribs and the hips, widen the lower area of the skirt to help the perspective and the pretty dress.
on the face I pushed the eyes up a bit, maybe too much even, and made their angle downwards again to add to the perspective.

>>3671024
thanks for the advice, I'll work on proportions. Didn't realize it's so tricky to get this right.

am I symbol drawing? can you half-symbol draw?

>>3669924

Fixe this please guys, what's wrong ?

>>3671055
Symbol drawing is just a meme anon

>>3671055
Nope. When people usually talk about symbol drawing they mean that what you're drawing isn't cohesive as shape and are more abstract.

>>3671058
It's not, but who the fuck draws with only "light and shadow".

I Have a problem with drawing on the tablet
It works when I am doing tiny lines but I have no idea how to make big lines everything is wobbly and it's not handy to draw them because you can't draw with your arm on a tablet

How to make big lines?

>>3671066
Calibrate it, for sensitivity check your pen pressure. Sadly if your tablet is small then you are stuck with what you have you cannot make long lines with no surface to do them. In practice you have to zoom out of the drawing and do it like that.

>>3671057
the foot above is misaligned it is supposed to be going for the same direction as the other. The arms should be stretched out like he is pulling himself he is stretching after all, I mean I think so. Needs a second arm too. I redlined my art to show the spine's line and how the shoulders move forward.

>>3670588
Good bro , keep going and grind it until you can do the shape with just a few deliberate lines instead of many thicker ones. You don't ave to draw the face just keep doing the head. Good luck and keep grinding!

>>3670114
Are you doing the 'Fleshing out' stage with shapes? Its important to avoid that 2d\flat feel. See pic attached.

>>3669924
Please tell me what's wrong with this and how to fix it please

If my only aspiration in life is to draw cute girls, is loomis the right thing to study? The girls I draw look like bogdandoffs

>>3671157
I don't see the problem

>>3671170
I did not draw that picture
It just similar to things I want to draw

>>3671172
>>3671157
Loomies give you some fundamental knowledge of drawing humans and doing art in general. Whatever Loomis taught you you can directly apply to drawing cute girls better and maybe also other things.

>>3669924
I know it's a bit of a mess focally, and I need to work on my line art/proportions. Otherwise, what do you think?

>>3671187
Shit, I just realized my sense of scale is fucked too. I guess I ought to clarify that this is my first attempt at a scene like this, I normally just to characters without backgrounds

>>3671148
guuyyyssss pleaseeee

>>3670893
Good job anon I love it.

>>3671148
The features on the face are misaligned and are not coherent with how his shoulders are positioned.

>>3671157
Loomis is the unpleasant clay you must first master before molding cute anime girls.

>>3671263
Ahh thank you thank you I will work on this

I saw this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FzHV2h29zE and thought it would be fun practice. Ended up taking way more than expected on a single head. I didn't want to draw a real person because I felt like I'd just be copying so I took a manga character and thought about how I'd draw him in real life by using lots of reference.

I'm started to become addicted to the failure

I've started to become addicted to the failure

>>3671457
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defeating_personality_disorder

>>3671471
>Self-undoing masochist
>Avoidant personality disorder
Oh man these don't sound too far off the mark, I gotta be aware of this and just fucking draw already

>>3671374
>I didn't want to draw a real person because I felt like I'd just be copying

Please do. It's not ¨copying¨, drawing from life is one of the best ways to improve and will absolutely not hamper your creative skills in any way.
I'd love to see your life drawings (if you have any), but judging from that portrait, you could use some studies, especially regarding stuff like facial structure and anatomy

Tfw no gf

>>3671596
>tfw 1440x2560

pleas tell me if this looks right?

>>3671621
>not drawing in 1488x4200
ngmi

Give me a simple drawing to do (ex. no crazy background or mechas)

>>3671635
Please draw shiburin

>>3671645
Seconding this

Is copying photos in black and white, in a way, cheating?

Is the ultimate goal to be able to draw anything from memory?

>>3671646

But Anon already drew a Shiburin at >>3670893 in this thread

>>3671630

>>3671651
Oops sorry, I accidentally replied to someone

>>3671650
Draw your waifu

>>3671652

>>3671650
Their's is ugly.

>>3671647
>Is copying photos in black and white, in a way, cheating?
"There are no rules, just tools" therefore anon cheating is impossible.

>Is the ultimate goal to be able to draw anything from memory?
The ultimate goal is what you set for yourself, a lot of professional artists draw from refs. It is better to know the basics like light, perspective, colors etc. Knowledge like that can and usually must be applied no matter what you create.

>>3671645
Im not drawing anime, I just cant. Its so easy to fuck it up because it uses a small amount of exactly placed lines to create the face that the smallest alteration completely changes it

>>3671664
Staying in your comfort zone is how you fail to succeed at something, nobody on planet earth gives a fuck if you fuck up, learn from i

>>3671664
You had to be a big shot did ya you had to open up your mouth. You had to have the last word last night. You had to be a big shot last night.

>>3671669
Alright fine, Im doing it

>>3671679
You had to have the front page, bold type
You had to be a big shot, last night

>>3671645
Hope you like it

>>3671679
>>3671734
You both sound like the Rin poster.

>>3671750
>>3671654

Im this anon, give me more things to draw. Pls no more generic anime girls

>>3671753
Draw a thiccc dranei thot from WoW.

>>3671627
more

Do some of you guys have days where you focus on practicing/studying different fundamentals? Like for example Monday will be used to practice perspective drawing for "X" amount of time, or Wednesday will be used to study anatomy/proportions, life/photo drawing on Thrusday, personal art on the weekend, etc.

I know I need to get good at perspective to do figure drawing well and need to be good at life drawing/observation to be able to render shit well. But if I spend too much time on any one thing I will start getting bored with it. Maybe a study schedule will be the best thing for me.

Even if I just spend 1-2 hours a day on the fundamentals I think I would still get better.

>>3671753
Witch in a witch hat and a low cut top!

>>3671753
Draw Walt Disney.

>>3671771
Here is your redline anon. The eyes are too big, there should be enough space in between the two eyes to fit a third eye in there that is roughly how wide apart they are. The nose is halfway between the eyes and the chin, then the bottom of the lower lip is also halfway between the nose and the chin. The ear, when looking from the front is usually reaches the eyebrows and the nose but it moves as you look up or down. The eyebrows need to reach closer to each otehr normally the eyebrows are pretty long and go beyond the corners of the eyes unless they are missing due to being plucked or old age.

>>3671753
Draw Crash Bandicoot.

>>3671627
Also this, the eyes are too far apart and the nose was curved the wrong way I guess you were going for a petite childlike nose but it looked off for me. The forehead is way too tall leave place for the hair too.

>>3671802
>>3671760
>>3671753
>>3671653
>>3671646
>>3671645
This isn't the drawthread guys please quit it!

>>3671796
>>3671803
thanks guys

>>3671807
I was the same guy and your welcome

fucking around with ink

Just a rough concept, not a fan of the feet tho.

>>3671811
fun

>>3671803
stop doing draw-overs if you can't draw yourself, christ

>>3671812
Good effort I suggest you look up a photo of horse or something as a reference, animals are pretty tough to draw.

hmm ok 2 more here

Some ahegao

>>3671908
woops forgot to resize

Very first time trying to render something besides an apple. Can I get advice? Thank you

>>3671939
Reference bg is black
Make your bg black
Youll see whats wrong

>>3671942
Oh wow. It's the shape of the figure correct?

>>3671939
you need harder edges

>>3671942
>>3671947
Thank you

im literally to much of a brainlet for fun with a pencil. It goes from a circle to a face, then expects me to make my own faces. How the fuck am I supposed to make a different old man face everytime.

>>3672207
experiment with what you've been taught. take your balls and add some shapes on them to accentuate facial features and go wild with it. fuck it up a bunch of times, because you absolutely will, every mistake is something learned. Just practice what he wants you to get out of it and don't just copy the books old guy faces over and over, and if you're really new to this give it some time and patience.

going through the digital painting tutorials in the OP

>>3671939
yeah don't use airbrush that much. Use hard brush for placing your values and then drop the hardness and opacity and paint over them to smoothen it out. The pinch she has on top of her belly button you can do with a hard brush stroke and softening it with a soft eraser. Also why the face is omitted?

>>3672289
Really nice brush work. Maybe try again the white and orange cubes, they seem to have a bit rounder edges than your versions.

>>3671939

Work on separating your lights and darks better. Although your study still reads a having some form, it is a bit gray/muddy looking. I think you'll see the values better if you work on a 50% (or so) gray background instead of pure whit.

>>3672435
tried body

>>3672457
used some reference

>>3672288
well after a few hours of failing I think i've realized why loomis is considered a meme for beginners. It seems like it requires a pretty decent knowledge of perspective and fundamentals. I can't rotate shapes and recreate them perfectly on paper like Loomis seems to think I can do from the first page. Or being able to judge how to construct a face to make it look aesthetic w/o references.

I guess I'll probably go through keys to drawing since ive finished right side of the brain, then perspective made easy. Dunno if I'll ever be able to go through loomis books since im so shit.

>>3672506
fun with pencil is a huge meme, learn to draw the blook balls then move on. go to keys to drawing, drawing the head and hands, hamptons figure drawing and proko on youtube.

https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/think-with-forms-not-lines-take-your-drawing-to-the-next-level--cms-24486

>>3672506
This is why I recommend people to start with perspective books first and maybe trying drawing from life/copying stuff, learning construction is something you can make use of later on, if you have troubles putting objects in perspective your constructions will always look off, which makes the errors cascade as you build up on them.

You may want to just learn to draw perspective grids and use them as guides. That might help a bit.

more shit

>>3672615
stop anime.

>>3672506
Please just abandon loomis and study perspective and Hampton, you would be saving yourself so much time and effort.

>>3672491
>>3672435
>>3672457
>>3672615
Here is an idea anon when you draw make your girls smile for a change instead of staring with a blank and stoned expression.

Where do I go to learn how to draw the penis and vagina? Surely there are no YouTube tutorials on those?

>>3672634
Use reference and draw them a bunch?

>>3672634
Google them tumblr has plenty of them!

>>3672634
Porn obviously? Just pause that shit and use it as a reference. Go to anatomy books if you want the details. If you're looking for some gay -ass "tutorial" on drawing dick/pussy, yeah, i've seen some, ask on the porn/NSFW thread.

hmm ok I tried to tone down anime and introduced smile

>>3672676
More anime

I've got the Loomis books, the "Drawing on the right side of the brain" book and I'm looking at the ctrl+paint videos.
Is there a recommended order you go through the newbie things? Because I'm over here getting assfucked trying to draw the cup in the "Visual Measuring: Proportions" video by ctrl+paint.

>>3672724
you traced that.

>>3672724
Nice, now do Mike

>>3672729
I doubt it, the nose is off. Well, he possibly traced the outlines though

>>3672737

>>3672724
>he picked rich over mike

>>3672743
I did that myself before posting smartass. The nose is off.

>>3672636
>>3672650
>>3672655
Thank you.

Practicing constructing the figure from simple forms. My eye subconsciously tells me I've done something wrong here, but I can't quite place it.

>>3672814
Lay your drawing over the reference and spot the massive differences

gotta keep drawing gotta keep drawing til i get good like this

>>3672821
Please aim higher, i thought that was your shitty beg drawing at first

>>3672825
that bad?

ok hows this now

>>3672821
you set yourself realistic expectations and a good short-term goal, once you get there, aim higher, dont get comfortable with just being "good enough" but still respect yourself
we are gonna make it

>>3672863
Don't tell me wha to do asshole.

>>3670114
What is the story behind this?

Sumo gestures, about 4 mn each

>>3672899
Derp

What's the best way to proactively train my hand to draw the lines i want? Every time i draw my hand cant keep up with what my eyes and brain tell it to do.

>>3672959
just constantly keep drawing lines and circles for like 1-2 hours

drew sakuya bones

I hate being bad so much. I wish I was dead.

>>3673014

too smol body :/

>>3673033
just say it's a hobbit, my dude

This is what I get. I thought I'd be some Grand Master. So fucking delusional. Not even intermediate level. This is what I get for drawing off and on for two years. Two years with two summer breaks I could've grinded fundies. And now I'll be forced to go to college soon. Probably a part time job too. No time for drawing, video games, nothing. Just fucking kill me.

>>3672908
I suppose i's not easy to crit gestures but any comment, anything I can work on welcome, I must go forward.

>>3673064
Which one are your drawings? Also just analyze where you are and what separates you from the artists you like.

>>3672577
>>3672599
>>3672626
thank you. I will take all of your advice. I thought I was a retard for not understanding loomis right away since this board seems to obsess over him.

>>3672999
Horrible

Rate

>>3672908
i think is pretty good but i'm beg as well

>>3672814
draw through your forms, even when shitposting

>>3673113
Explain this. Not that Anon, and I think I might have been struggling with that.

longface

was originally going to post my first attempt at well, but that seemed a little pointless. Is this a good attempt at conveying the form of the ant, and how can I improve it?

>>3673161
ref

>>3673161
construction is ok but measurements are off

Studying ribs, at various angles.

>>3672975
>>3673101

By far best art on /beg/

smoking lady

>>3673194
Yeah I was kind of rushed. I'll keep at it!

>>3673161
not bad anonkun. another thing from what other anon said is to maybe just remember your line weights to convey the shape and perspective. closer lines overlapping others (the foreground legs) can have darker lines than the body which have even darker than the further ones.
I know it's just a construction-y sketch kinda thing, but no harm in practicing more than one thing at once and it helps convey the ant as a 3d object better

Im having fun with my pixel brush so far. Any advice?

>>3673286
this really resonated with me man, thanks for letting me know. I'll keep practicing and post again when I feel I have a healthy grasp on both concepts to continue!

>>3672999
just nutted bro

might have posted this before
dont know

Screw your optics I am going in

>>3673342
You did fren

drew yang

>>3673358
STOP
POSTING

I feel like I should be ashamed for my lack of skill

>>3673215
Nigga that bitch has two right hands

>>3673358
Could someone post some tutorials on hair rendering?
im trying to learn how to paint hair but it always comes off as off
also general critiqing would be awesome to have aswell

>>3673397
oops
didn't mean to tag >>3673358 anon
jus ignore that
here's another hair practice i did

>>3673358
This is so good anon but can you draw Rin again okay thanks bye

>>3673399
here's another face practise i did
>>3670114
not bad your shading is very messy and nowt always going with the way it should dependent on each shape and shadow
also you're construction lines are too hard
try to use softer strokes so when you erase it then it will be less visible
>>3670314
did you use construction lines?
anatomy should be proper before going into details like the armor and facial features
learn the proper proportions aswell
>>3670435
learn to stop using chicken scratch or if you insist on use it go over it with a pen so the image is less messy
can't really help you anymore then that
>>3670488
no point in doing studies for cloth and folds if you dont have proper anatomy
this is if you're planning to make people and gestures
if you just want to make inanimate objects or scenery
>>3670701
it looks nice
i dont know what it is but it looks nice lol >>3671148
the face isnt properly aligned
i can see you put some construction lines in the beginning but you seemed to have lost your way while doing detailing
your shading is nice though i like it
>>3671157
idk much about anime art but knowing atleast the fundamentals of loonis would be helpful to draw anime girls
but you seem pretty skilled with it by yourself
i'd say start to learn cell shading and you'd be close to your aspiration
i think she looks nice
>>3671187
it's interesting
i feel like you bit off more then you could chew with this painting
far too many pieces and things to slightly adjust but start by breaking apart the major things that need fixing i.e perspective, anatomy, then eventually values
>>3671547
damn this is my favorite piece in this thread so far
the eye on the one in the hat is a bit low but i really like it anon
>>3671596
not bad
are you using a ipad pro?
how good is it for painting im thinking of getting one
1/2

>>3671647
depends on which style you want to emulate
personally EVERY artist has used references but for me personally i see nothing wrong with references aslong you dont outright trace and show what you referenced then outright say it is based off of said pic
it looks great anon
>>3671811
>>3671814
looks nice
im not very experience with gestures and you're probably better then me so i can't really help critic you but i think it looks good
>>3671939
use a gray background
really good for a first time keep using that momentum anon
holy fuck i'd love to critic more but i gotta get back to painting
sorry to those i didn't respond to ;-;

>>3673397
>>3673399
>>3673414
push your values
against that BG you're really not moving anywhere in your darks

i try to draw realistic but i suck should i give up and try to draw with style?

trying to get good at drawing things such as buildings and streets, city landscapes, etc. So I’ve been practicing and reading up on drawing in perspective. First sketch of the night (and first time practicing in... let’s just say a while)

Tips and advice/criticism? Just stacked a couple books and drew them. Too lazy to dig around for a decent eraser, so I apologize for the extra lines and smudges

>>3673439
it's all practice, anon.
you can get there. but, as a caveat, it's more important you express your art how you personally see is best -- that isn't to say that giving up on practice is a good idea; but if it's what you wanna do, do it.

Hello. I've drew this robot lad for an hour. It's a struggle trying to get the eyes symmetrical. Any other criticism and feedback

Here's a repost. The camera rotated

>>3673446
I think you symbol drew squidward. neck looks a tad thick and its flat. Remember the trapezius!!!! Otherwise keep it up I can tell youre trying your best to understand and learn.

why is /beg/ pro level all of a sudden? i feel left behind...

>>3673494
second

>>3673215
Hands too small anon, go and walk to the mirror and put on hand over half of your your face and see how big it is compared to the face. It should be roughly big enough so that you can cover your face from the chin up to your eyebrows, next tie think about that when drawing hands.

Also read what this anon said >>3673395 drawing hands can be made 100 times easier when you just use your own as a referee and take the position what yo are drawing.

What can I improve? I feel like I kind of chose marker colors a bit arbitrarily. That or I need new ones that are darker.

drew lucina

>>3673300
>>3673342
Is this considered upper tier /beg/?

>>3673542
alright good now just make the face more defined

>>3673536
try to be neater, it's not hard and it improves a picture so much. particularly with hatching.

i agree on the having some darker markers.

otherwise i think you're doing fine and you just need more experience.

at some point you might want to look into using linear perspective, but that's a big kettle of fish. you also might want to use watercolors or something to learn a bit about mass drawing, you're very line focused.

>>3673551

>>3673555
I’ll try adding some color to help me understand mass better. I want to try and get a process of inking physically, scanning it, and then painting the color in like a comic book. That’s probably why I’m so line centric. For fun I’m trying that right now so the coloring would be good practice. Pic related is what I’m working on.

I tried to take the classical painting on the bottom and then repaint as a daytime scene. I didn't realize till now that I made the left head too big.

On a scale of 0 to Sargent, how did I do?

>>3673559
good now give the face some angles

>>3673562
Ya did very good anon that's the stuff, keep practicing!

>>3673562
remember that in daylight there is more light not less dark. so if something is in shadow then it still goes all the way down to black.

of course it's common to make all the values brighter as a style thing, and that's what i think you've done, but is /beg/ thread so i thought i'd say it anyway.

you also used a fairly thin colour range, there could be more greens and yellows, and more pure versions of red and purple. on the right face there's a nice red which is the sort of thing i'm talking about.

the light is a bit inconsistent there's parts where it seems a very yellow and parts where it goes very neutral or almost blue.

there's a few sections like mr. lefts chest where it's indistinct to the point of being blurry. the brown you used for the hair is very ugly, especially digitally. the facial details need to be more a simplified version of the masses, as they are now they're heading over towards the anime-like line and dot symbol kinda thing. i don't think you really captured the expression or really any expression. and there's not much allowance for texture.

aside from all those nick picks there's some very nice use of greys, there's a good feel for the atmosphere, the shadows by and large have a very nice saturated vibe, and it looks like day time, so i guess that's mission accomplished.

1/10 on Sargent scale, which is quite good, thats why you don't use a sargent scale. unless you're a master you default to one. :p

>>3673562
left head should be angled to down more and nose on the right head should be more to his right side and up a little bit

Not my work, but I was wondering why the perspective seems off near the bottom.

>>3673622
Because it is.

>>3673548
Thanks hehe
I make them in mspaint, any thoughts?

>>3673622
I don't see anything that stands out to me as off anon, I thought maybe the people did feel as going to another horizon but I threw some lines and if you consider them to be teens or highschoolers at the front then it looks alright. Else the people at the front are kind of diminishing in height quicker than they should. People don't have the same height so it's tricky to judge that as off or not, nonetheless.
But maybe it's something else that is bothering you.

>>3673571
Thanks!
>>3673579
"one"

I'll take it.

Next time I will certainly remember to widen my value range a bit more.

>>3673586

You, anon, are correct.

>>3673633
If you are gonna draw dicks anon at least make sure they are pointed towards the target and look like cylinder instead of something from Paper Mario. If you are gonna draw fat girls know how fat works.

>>3673635
It was exactly what you analyzed that was bothering me. It might be just an impression, since the lines meet or perhaps it's just a tiny bit off, but if you consider height differences it's all good. Didn't think of that, thanks for your analysis.

>>3673655
Thanks anon, I will use shading to make it cylindery. Lol @ filename

I am new to painting.
Say I have an acrylic painting.
Can I put some sort of coating on it, then keep working on it like put on an acrylic glaze that if I don't like the result I can wipe away without destroying the underpainting?

>>3669924

Need advice i'm stuck :'(

I tried goin digital

>>3673703
how are you stuck? Need more info

>>3673440
bump with this

What apps should i use to draw digitally?
Do you have any recommendations?

Any criticism is allowed. I really want to get better at drawing

>>3673760
Krita

Repost

>>3673573
The body is too fat for the angle, the legs and the torso are supposed to be a round surface but the pans make them look flat. The face too, curve them out and the eyes upwards, pull the shoulders back. Does she have hair behind the head? If yes then it should be visible.

is this getting too cluttered?

>>3673786
B-blog?

Die this in my phone with fingers.
Am i to good for /beg/?

I know that perspective is always used when drawing buildings, cars, man made objects, but what about when you are looking to draw characters/people and animals?

Drawing all those going to the vanishing point is going to make such a hassle to draw characters/people?

Am I wrong about this?

>>3673846
see this image and figure out if it's important
>>3673786

>>3673786
How did you manage to make it worse anon?

>>3673846
Perspective is about "how" you see the world and everything in it, not "what" you see. Perspective helps you to make your works more lively and varied. Perspective is a tough but very rewarding thing to know because it can be applied in countless ways to enhance the image. Unless you wish to draw only the same setting with the same eye level every single time.

>>3673849
It is my secret technique anon, I call it "/beg/ level rendering."

>>3673703

leegs, and, it's feel to much rigid. Someone car fix it ?

how can lines be """""""""forms"""""""""

>>3673867
forms must be in your head and you represent them with lines
if you do this well, other people will see the same thing you saw in your head

>>3673879
sounds like some semitic trickery to me not gonna lie

Been doing some life drawing recently, Don't really know if I'm going along the right track. At least I've been enjoying it.

>>3673885
keep an eye on the shapes cause they are quite off

>>3673905
Thanks for the crit. Been drawing daily for about 6 months or so. Been having fun with drawing tho. Yeah, that was actually the first time I've done life drawing, It's quite difficult, but it's helping with those anatomy gains.

>>3673852
Ah I see.

So to stop drawing things in the same position and making your drawings look dead flat, you can stop this by using one perspective for like a character.

But, what way would you line up all the curves to the vanishing point?

Does that even need to be done?

>>3673703>>3673862
Hmm, I thought about looking up some spear throwing gestures since I'm doing gesture drawings. Ended up looking at youtube videos of javelin Olympic throwers. I would say you try and do the same if you feel they are stiff. Leaving my attempts in case they give you ideas, but you should look up for people doing the action or do the action yourself if you feel the pose is stiff.

>>3673852
Underrated post.

>>3673919
You do not have to use precisely measured vanishing points for every work unless their absence would make the material much worse. The key is that you understand what you are doing, if you are drawing a single character in a mostly organic area and you are experienced enough then then you can just eyeball it becasue you know how the shapes work in 3D space. If you are doing artificial shapes with clear cut straight lines like boxes, rooms, buildings, streets then it is better to have stuff precisely measured.

>>3673928
This video is what I am talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkGJ04Y-Fw

Advice pls. I'm stuck

Whats wrong?

>>3673397
Well done Anon really strong base here, use the light to define the forms and shapes, the nose a is a bit too big and the eyes need to look forward more. Add an edge to the mouth the mouth is rarely ever 100% lips.

Rendering hair depends on how complicated you want it to be, straight flat hair is simpler more frilly and richer detailed hair is obviously harder. If you want and example compare Disney's Merida and Rampunzel, Merida's hair is a nightmare to paint becasue of the countless individual locks and strands. So it is up to you but try to keep it manageable varied and NEVER try to draw every single hairstrand, treat it as a normal mass.

>>3674009
The problem is that we are not sure what she is doing.

>>3673944
check a tutorial on how the face i s constructed, the proportions are all wrong

>>3673920
Where did you learn how to construct like that?

>>3674069
Nowhere, it's my own way of doing it. Picking up bits and pieces from anything I read or check. Since I'm following Scott's how to draw as of late I'm doing a bit more perspective checks to try and apply quick measurements to sketches, maybe see what can I change in my workflow.

>>3673786
You’re absolutely spoiling me with these fixes anon. Bless. I only see you recolor my drawings though, why is that?

>>3669944
I think this could benefit from some heavier line weights here and there. Find areas you want to emphasize and thicken them up

>>3670114
Some of the armor plate edges don’t make sense. Things get smaller as they go back in space and curves should emphasized this way too

>>3670264
The hips and shoulders are at perfectly flat angles. Try tipping them to add more movement (see Jim Lees YouTube for more on this)

>>3674009
balance, inten, proportions

>>3671814
Hello MC Ride

Been working on this about 12 hours. Will i make it guys?

>>3673414
>are you using a ipad pro?

Nah just my crashtacular galaxy note 4, I have an ipad pro but I haven't used it enough to get used to the feel of the pen but I can say it's good for painting as the pen input is very 1:1.

I have the older 10.5 inch model but you can't go wrong with it for drawing if you don't mind using diffirent programs and aren't reliant on things like photoshops clipping mask layer thing. Best you can do is just go to an apple store and try one out like I did.

>>3674009
She appears to be leaning back and to the side, indicating she is falling or moving in that direction, however her legs indicate she is moving forward.

Her arms are forwards and outwards as if she is performing michael jackson's thriller, with her hands clenched and wrists bent like paws for some reason.

Her face is tilted its side and eyebrows raised as if she is reacting to something with mild shock, the angle of the bottom of the nose is wrong as the point of nose is too far up and also too far to (the viewers) left considering the head tilt.

In short she looks like she was in a bar fight and tased.

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>>3667681
>>3667788
thanks for your feedback anons,
I decided to throw everything in the trash and start over with hampton's book
these are a bunch of studies i did,
not the best, but not the worst either I guess

What am I doing wrong?

what can i do to make it look better? i think the patch looks off

>>3673414
>it's interesting
>i feel like you bit off more then you could chew with this painting
>far too many pieces and things to slightly adjust but start by breaking apart the major things that need fixing i.e perspective, anatomy, then eventually values

Yeah, I definitely did. I may try to re-do the whole thing from the ground up with all that in mind, to see if I can come up with something more coherent in the end. Thanks for the critique!

>>3674295
try drawing gestures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X3LK-rJheY

Can anyone rec good Youtube tutorials that teaches various body construction/anatomy in a non-tedious way?

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