/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3659729

>>3659729
Japanese Disco Edits product page (link was cut off earlier, sorry)

https://neoncityrecords.bandcamp.com/album/japanese-disco-edits

>>3659729
blog?

>>3660156
Blog is under construction. You can check the DeviantArt page for now for a mix of new artwork and really old ones.

https://www.deviantart.com/dennis-pulido

Thanks

>>3659729
Man i just heard yung bae on the hypeM and wow loved it went to youtube his other stuff fucking garbage tell him to remaster his older stuff and reupload i was about to share him with my friends thank god i checked first and avoided embrassing myself.

>>3659729
Drawing Video:
https://youtu.be/NI0VuO9vwZc

>>3659729
Yung Bae's recent tweet:
https://twitter.com/yungestbae/status/1058202630495686657

>>3659731

Nice to see some retro anime aesthetics. Should have skipped the shadow in the corner of her mouth and simplified it below on the lip and chin, makes her look a bit pudgy faced.

>>3659729
Is this budget satoshi uruchihara?

>>3663240
Thanks. I wanted to give her face volume.

>>3663242
I'll take that as a compliment.

>>3659731
pretty good, but without descriptions on the steps of how they change the colors from picture 3 to 4, it is still quite vague and a little overly complicated.

>>3663253
You could watch the drawing video at >>3661107

>>3663248
>Thanks. I wanted to give her face volume.

Ofcourse, as does anyone who draws anime. I'm just saying your shapes need some work as they're not quite at nip levels of appeal yet.

>>3659729
did you post your work to get pats on the head? go shill your work somewhere else, you're just some no name shmuck trying to show off how shitty your classic animus is

>>3663261
Noted.

Even your deviantArt is full of wannabe classic anime, OP. What is it with you fools trying to bring back some over-hyped genre of anime that's only catering to desperate 40 and 50 year olds trying to re-capture their youth? There's nothing of value here, just some poor attempt at drawing classic anime and the idiot music crew who could have easily hired someone else to do a better job, whose music is just as cheesy as the cover that was created for it. Looking on your past attempts at drawing classic, you clearly got away with doing as little as possible and having that garbage slapped onto a label, which in turn is now available for everyone to see and can never be taken back. Gross.

>>3663273

Not him but I personally enjoy the retro aesthetics. If people like it, it has value. I don't think looking for inspiration in past eras is limited to making works of pastiche either, even if there's nothing wrong with tthat in of itself. Cultural progress is not linear and we have to continually refer to those who have gone before us and learn from them, and revivify those things that have been lost over time and integrate them into a contemporary context. Or to be more blunt; if you only look to contemporary artists for inspiration you have unrefined taste.

>>3663273
>What is it with you fools trying to bring back some over-hyped genre of anime that's only catering to desperate 40 and 50 year olds trying to re-capture their youth?

Because I'm passionate about the subject matter and the aesthetics it inspires, and my clients saw my skills good enough to pay me a professional fee for it. If that makes me a fool, then so be it.

>>3663296
>unrefined taste
>enjoys retro aesthetics
>OP pic
Yeah, it shows how unrefined your tastes are.

>>3663297
No it makes your clients bigger fools. You put shit art with shit music hand in hand so in a way, you are the right person for the job. What was the 'professional fee', a few hundred bucks and a mention on their Twitter? This garbage can't be worth more than a few hundred bucks, and don't tell me they paid you THOUSANDS of dollars because music that crappy can't afford that pricetag. You probably did this as a favor just to get exposure and in return, the music shills your crap art on a cassette jacket. Who the fuck is going to buy a cassette tape in 2018? You're not at the forefront of some music renaissance, even the production value of the music is abysmal. If that's the mastered result of the music, it's garbage. It's mudded, just like your art. And just like the last 50 seconds of the music, it's full of unwarranted filler...like your artwork.

You are a fool, who was 'hired' by his brother or a friend of the family who felt sorry about you wasting 40K on a degree that's fucking worthless. This isn't being passionate about the subject matter by any means, it's uninspiring music coupled with unappealing art. You're no budget Satoshi Urushihara, you're nowhere in the ball park of anything remotely close to being considered 'retro anime'. Your an example of someone who has no business drawing classic anime, pretending to use software to make up for the lack of your ability to draw, then you crank out vomit that in YOUR mind makes you feel good, but to anyone who's palette has tasted the long forgotten overhyped 80's, this is trash.

You can't lie to me about how much they paid you for this work. 200 dollars if they felt sorry for you, but no more than 100 dollars cash. Don't kid yourself into thinking you can parade this around like you've made it. Your 40k piece of paper hanging inside a dollar store frame says otherwise.

Prove me wrong.

>>3663313
>Prove me wrong
Burden of proof is not mine, but thanks for sharing your thoughts.

>>3663313
Pretentious doesn't even begin to describe your drivel about ""Refined taste"" and how "Everyone that likes things I don't is shit tier" is the main message of your post.

>>3663313

imagine being this much of an autistic, bitter crab

>>3663319
Go pull out the invoice for the work, pro. You do know what an invoice is for the work that you do, right? Unless you accept cash, which is why those 200 measly dollars can just, disappear without a trace. 200 dollars if your client was stupid enough to pay for such an uninspired piece of garbage but hey, there's that reality setting in on whether or not anyone has a cassette player in 2018, right?

The burden of proof has always been yours, Dennis. I'm not the one posting garbage threads like you pretending to show the kids here that 'retro anime' is making a comeback like the fanny pack or Ecto Cooler High-C. No, you're just some sad 30-something year old pretending to draw, but hey, I'm glad I'm not living your life and having to prove my worth by posting my work on an image board just to validate my worth.

Right Pewliddo?

>>3663325
Shut the fuck up Pepsipopo, I know it's you posting. I saw you visit this idiot's deviantArt page a few hours ago; you're the only dumb ass stupid enough to be defending this tripe.

>>3663327
Uh oh, I unsettled the earth underneath me and now the left is crying...again.

>>3663319

Don't mind him, just a crab

what is the purpose of this thread?

>>3663337
I was actually paid more than 200, which is pretty good for a quick job of drawing one character that's not even full body. I know of only one other artist who draws in a similar retro style like me and he gets paid 30-40 bucks for the same job - it seems that qualification and experience does make a difference when negotiating your price.

Also, Neoncity Records, from what I can tell, is a small record business targeting a very niche audience - the type who buys cassettes and vinyls. To ask them for more money than what they offered me can lead to cancelling the project which I wouldn't want since an opportunity to work for a client that actually fits my retro style for once is not something that comes to me everyday. Forming a long-term relationship/partnership with such a client is more important to me than asking for too much money for a short term / one-off and possibly no partnership because I would be deemed too expensive - as Jubei Kibagame said in the intro of Ninja Scroll: "You're asking for too much. You're the fool."

Also, I do not draw in retro style because it is making any sort of comeback. I have always drawn in this style for as long as I can remember because I feel that it is a style that has not been preserved not even in Japan. Closest anime we got to achieve an authentic retro style was Kabaneri, and that was done by Haruhiko Mikimoto, the artist for Macross, a 1980s anime. One Punch Man was also pretty close.

Having a unique style allows me to target my own niche in a market that is already way waaaaaay oversaturated with anime artist who specialize in modern contemporary inspirations. This specialization allows me to meet unique clients like Neoncity Records and get opportunities to work on projects like these where I can take full advantage of my design philosophies. This is a luxury because in my full-time professional job as a lead designer, we design based on statistics, not on artistic freedom.

What do you want? What's the point of this thread?

anyone remember the 90s anime filter thread lol

>>3663519
Sharing my art the same way everybody else share their art. At least one guy here made a simple yet notable critique about how I shaded the face, and I took note of it, so it's still an artwork/critique thread.

>>3663541
you must be pretty fucking new and ignorant if you think that people want to see your shitty shilled art for some shitty musician in this manner
go post in the beginner threads if you want to whore yourself out

>>3663576
So mad, like somebody killed your family or something.

>>3663709
I'm about as mad as this art is good.
Which is to say, I'm not.
Ignorant cunts like you are simply a detriment to this board.

>>3663474
Now you weren't, and you're proving my point by not producing an invoice for the work, of which sensitive information can be easily blacked out with your knowledge of Photoshop. Most of you pretenders like to fantasize about a world that doesn't exist, which in this case is the vital piece of evidence to quiet down the opposition. Because you can't produce this phantom invoice means that a. any proof of you getting paid AT ALL even exists or b. this was a shitty collaboration between two delusional parties.

Then you quote some stupid anime to help preserve your stance on this issue—notably from the 90's which in turn tells me you're in your mid to late 30's—to which this partnership won't last the pressing of the vinyl. Turns out Neoncity Records is based out of Hong Kong, which is nowhere near the dreams of your elusive Retro Japan. Even on their official website they don't post your work as a thumbnail like the other work on their 'cassettes', because they're ashamed to even give you thumbnail status for the crap you turned in or telephoned in:

>https://neoncityrecords.bandcamp.com/

And don't give me that crap about the classic anime style not being preserved in Japan. It's doing quite well without amateurs like you coming along and gaijin it up, thinking that your work will somehow live on as a testament to preserving the long, lost, overhyped look of 80's anime.

You don't have a unique style, you're only trying to mimic a genre of art with poor results. So badly the results, your work was only given a Merit Prize, an autistic Participation Award for this uninspired piece:

>https://www.animeigo.com/fan-art-contest/

>https://www.deviantart.com/dennis-pulido/art/Gunsmith-Cats-Fan-Art-Contest-Entry-761384008

See, these are called facts, not absentee invoices that don't exist, or the fairy tale preservation of work from a music company in Hong Kong who won't even give your work thumbnail billing on their website, this is just trash.

>>3663474
The guy getting paid 30-40 bucks was you, Jethro. You wouldn't have mentioned that unless it was you who actually got paid this much money for your dribble.

But hey, much like the kids I schooled in this thread about photoshop anime filters >>3663530
I'm willing to put your ass in your place when it comes to creating something retro. Hell, I've got time to kill to put another pretender in his place.

>>3663809
OP here. You can ask my client how much they paid me. I am not sure if I am allowed to disclose that information.

And the product is listed but is sold out on the website. It's the first product you see when you visit the link you posted yourself.

It is also posted in the music section of Yung Bae's web site.

https://yung-bae.myshopify.com/

Sold out too unfortunately.

Preserving the style does not necessarily mean that the artist is the ONLY one using that style. As I mentioned, I know least one other artist who draws in the same style but at a far lower pay-rate. It's like for a 70s funk artist to be legit, he should be the only one who plays music in 70s funk in current era. I don't think that makes sense at all.

It would actually be great if more artists adopt the retro anime style because I think it is great, and I'm glad to be one of them.

I am also aware that Neoncity is Hong Kong based. That has no relevance with my choice of art style.

The Gunsmith Cats contest I wasn't planning to enter and only whipped up something on a tiny piece of paper last minute. I wasn't expecting to win at all, but somehow still got a merit prize. You should see a noticeable difference in quality between my Gunsmith Cats artwork and the Yung Bae illustration. You could even compare it with my older artworks (such as the Takako Mamiya artwork) and see that it's not nearly up to par. I think it's a positive thing that despite my lack of effort, I still got a merit prize.

>>3659729
>>3660223
I like your old 80's/90's anime style.

>>3663857
>You should see a noticeable difference in quality between my Gunsmith Cats artwork and the Yung Bae illustration
but they're both done by someone who doesn't know how to draw??? and still doesn't if that thing is recent???
you probably think loomis is a meme lol

Did you just trace art from the Growlanser guy that does all the bush porn?

>>3663828
You're the one claiming that I got paid sub $200 so the burden of proof is on you to show that that is indeed the case.

Nothing I will say or show will count as evidence for you since, as you said, I can just use Photoshop to make a fake invoice.

So if you are commited to make your case, go and get the evidence yourself from a more reliable source so we'll have something concrete to discuss.

>>3663861
As mentioned, the Gunsmith Cats art was done last minute on a tiny piece of paper just so I will have entered something for a contest that I wasn't even planning to enter. I think it's great that I won anything at all.

I never used Loomis, but I studied directly under Charles Hu who works for Gnomon Workshop and New Masters Academy. Great professor by the way. Highly recommended.

>>3663870
Thanks but I don't trace - Satoshi Urushihara is one of my big inspirations. Somebody did try to have me draw similar bush porn, but I had to decline.

The harsh shadows for the nostril and corner of the mouth add 20 years to her age. I would remove them unless she's supposed to look older.

Btw arguing with autists on /ic/ makes you look stupid and reflects really badly on yourself and your partners

>>3663876
I think it is only reasonable for me to point to him where he can find our products since he made me aware that he could not find them. That's just customer service so I don't think it reflects badly at all - quite the opposite really. Again, unfortunately the products were sold out fast as they usually do.

I also find this conversation a good opportunity to share why I draw in the style that I do. It's less formal and unorthodox, but I think it's a unique kind of interview. Like a what if I was interviewed by Bill O'Reilly about my art. Quite exciting.

>>3663857
Forty bucks tops is what you got paid for your garbage, Dennis. Keep diluting yourself into thinking you got paid this monstrous amount of cash for your half-ass work. If Neoncity was proud of the work you did for their label, they would have given your thumbnail a much larger view and showcased it with a sense of sincere gratitude. Just because they printed 10 cassettes doesn't mean your work is validated and that your artwork somehow, magically made the item in question sell out like it did. It only goes to show just how dumb some people are, that they're willing to pay for a product that's no longer relevant today.

Your diluted dreams are bought at a cheap price in Honk Kong, Pulido, not in your Retro Japan.

Merit prizes are for honorable mentions, loser. Anyone who gets one is just another retard who got that participation award at the end of the Special Olympics; that doesn't make you something special.

But that's okay, keep dodging the fact that your artwork is horse crap, and keep responding like the aforementioned dunning kruger you are.

>>3663872
You mean THIS Charles Hu? lol

>https://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/instructors/charles-hu

Wow, you just keep showing how incredibly stupid your education is, Pulido. Just because they look like they're from that region of the world, doesn't mean they can ACTUALLY draw in that particular style, bozo.

>>3663873
That's because you can't draw it, hack. Why are you dodging my challenge to put your ass in your place?

>>3663892
The thumbnails on the website are all similar sizes. The bigger images are displayed on Yung Bae's twitter and my personal portfolio if you wish to view them. I can also send you a higher resolution if you want to print it for display if you wish..

I have no idea why you think I should ask my client to display my art at a large size when I can already do that on my personal portfolio? My client asked me to draw for them, I did and I got paid for the service I rendered. However they want to use the art is up to them - they paid for it. That's the nature of the job.

I also don't know about these "diluted dreams" you speak of. I never mentioned anything about it. I'm just satisfied that I'm doing what I love, and there are people willing to pay me for it.

Still waiting on your proof on how much I got paid.

>>3663906
Why are you dodging my challenge? You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?

>>3663906
Go ahead, dodge the challenge again and say that, 'your professionalism won't allow you to dabble with the riff-raff who lurk on 4chan', you Californian snowflake. I'm still waiting for you to say something remotely close to what you got paid for this trashy attempt at a poor man's classic anime show but we all know you won't say anything, citing 'professionalism client privileges and that commenting further on this matter could be detrimental to the budding partnership I'm currently concerned with building with partners in a foreign country'.

Your artwork is on a cassette insert, you delusional flake. Anyone can print that out with the technology available today, there's nothing special about what you did. Get over yourself.

>>3663906
You're getting called out on your crap and you're running scared, Pulido. You didn't expect to find this kind of realistic opposition to your dumbfounded dreams of 'making it'. How much does it cost to print out an insert in Hong Kong, as little as a Mandarin nickel or even less?

No, you talentless hack, I don't need to serve up any kind of proof to counteract your claims of being paid this exuberant amount of money. Citing details about how your crap is being produced are facts enough to help disavow any fantastical, conjured made up story you can try to fabricate at this point about your garbage.

>>3663902
Yeah that Charles Hu. I took Anatomy and Gestures under him. No he never taught me anime - in fact he doesn't like the anime style as do most of my art instructors. As I said, he's a really great teacher and if any of you guys are in the Los Angeles area, I highly recommend taking classes under him in person - his skills are a sight to behold.

>>3663916
What challenge? The invoice? I thought we already agreed that none of what I can give you will be good enough so I'm directing you to my client to ask yourself.

Also as mentioned, it is up to the client how they will use the artwork they paid me to do. I am not their art director to tell them how they should use their assets. In fact, the person I spoke to directly (the owner) when discussing this project made it very clear that they only want me to draw the girl and that is all they are paying me for.

>>3663923
Yeah, I'm going to waste my money taking classes from this dolt and end up with results like you? >>3659729

God I hope you kept your receipt for the classes you took because damn, it's time to walk up to admissions and ask for a refund. jesus christ

OP, you newfag, ignore the crab autist for fucks sake.

OP's been viciously roasted. This thread makes me happy.

>>3663929
Nah I enjoy our conversation very much. Don't worry, I'm not mad at all. He is asking questions - sure they could be expressed better, but they are fair questions nontheless.

>>3663927
I think Charles Hu is great. We chatted a few months ago to congratulate him on his Gnomon videos. Wish I could meet him in person again.

The crab pursuing OP demanding info about his payment seems to be suffering from some legitimate form of mental illness. This thread is disturbing

Holy samefag Batman. /ic/, I feel for you.

>>3663313
>>3663337
Has anyone else seen this much unadulterated asspain before? I haven't seen this much delicious butthurt in years since the Teal line guy shitstorms. You could practically taste the salt brine emanating from this post.

>>3664049
>>3664052
>>3664065

>>3664049
OP here. It was quite entertaining actually. I volunteer at a charity organization and I really enjoy talking to people such as this guy. The owner actually complemented me for my patience since she herself is easily triggered.

I'm curious though what will happen if I do show him the invoice to show that he was way off.

>>3664071

Don't even fucking respond to me with memes psycho, I'm calling the police.

>>3664049
Why do you guys think he is angry? Was the artwork really that offensive?

There's something about artist drama that really makes it so entertaining. I guess it's the added viciousness.

>>3664085
>Was the artwork really that offensive?
Yes, because he clearly attempted to mimic this style before and failed miserable and now that someone else has successfully brought about his childhood days of 80's animay his hurt ego is proportionally displaced to the point he copes by reacting in a defensive manner by attacking OP and project his frustration. This is what it looks like when somebody is hurt in a very profound manner.

>>3664089
meant to say failed miserably

>>3664084

>>3664089
and to add salt to the wound, OP is getting PAID to do this. Notice how the other anon highlights this, his dream must have been to draw 80's anime and get paid and be featured by some rock band or something. We're witnessing a man with a broken dream before our very eyes.

>>3664071
Not even the same guy.

>>3664088
If you check the other thread with retro anime art you'll see the same mentally ill guy samefagging. He's even mentioned stalking his deviantart in this thread lmao.

>>3664094
But he did say it doesn't count because it's for a company based in Hong Kong?

>>3664095
>He's even mentioned stalking his deviantart in this thread lmao.
fucking kek. That is incredible.

>OP gets roasted
>damage control is just as cringe worthy
yikes

>>3664095
>He's even mentioned stalking his deviantart in this thread lmao.

>>3664095
please do not put me in the same category as this amateur thank you

>>3664098
>>3664100
wow pepipopo, that's low, even for you

>>3664078
Sure thing snowflake, just take your roasting like a man and move on.

>>3664098
>>3664100
What's wrong with checking out the DA page?

>>3664108
Just Ctrl+f popo

>>3664104
>pepipopo
I'm not him, but whoever he is I am starting to like him. Cute name and causes butthurt.

damn OP, stop being so cringeworthy about your shit art

>>3659729
I am almost convinced op is just samefagging the majority of this thread. There's no way ugly art like this would get this many replies.

>>3664122
Never underestimate the impudence of autism.

>>3664089
I'd like to see his art.

>>3659729
Good job, OP. It certainly looks like the best thing on your DA page. You certainly nail some of the characteristics of the Urushihara style, but I hope you can move beyond it to create something more of yourself while still maintaining the 80/90's feel.

That other anon sure is salty. But a paying gig is a paying gig.

But if criticism is warranted, then I would have suggested to push the rest of her hair on the right side further back by dulling or darkening the highlights and color. As it is, it's on the same level of the rest of her hair. Not only that, but darkening it a bit would have made her right hand pop more.

>>3664049
>>3664071
>>3664088
>>3664100
>>3664104
>>3664113

Since when has /ic/ got co-apted by the worst of /v/ and /b/? they even ruined a thread some artists opened to get legit critic and they turned it into shit and blame and harrassed the OP.

>>3664417
this thread is dead move on

>>3663313
>mfw when I bought this cassette
I was dissapointed they didn't use the original cover tho

>>3665154
That's because it's a bootlegger (sorry, "remixer") who just grabbed a random anime image / screencap and uses that on all their bootleg (sorry, "remixes") of random Japanese songs they find and they needed to pay someone to do their best knock off (sorry, "shit attempt at drawing anime when they have no fucking idea of what Loomis is all about and tries to give advice on learning how to draw in their shitty shill thread on an Indonesian pocket billiards enthusiast board like a clueless fuck") so they could sell it.

>>3665157
>then looks at OP's rendition
MY..fucking...sides...lololololololol

Fuck, it didn't even occur to me to check that dance scene OP referenced. Holy shit, what a fucking disgrace. Not only did we get a Dollar Store rendition, OP has the fucking balls to defend his shit art compared to Toshiki Hirano and fucking Haruhiko Mikimoto?!

Bargain basement Urushihara wannabe.