/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3654036
Thank you kind stranger.

>>3654036
Translate it. Are the other pols making fun of him?

>>3654036
based sandwich dude

>>3654036

the guy has millions of views on his artstation and probably works as an art director making hundreds of thousands of dollars, while you guys jerk of your pedophilloic Chinese cartons, and what can you do about it? absolutely fucking nothing.

stay bitter crabs.

>>3654355
Why should i care about how much you can make Darek? Is flaunting your income the only thing you can do when somebody shit on your "art"?

>>3654358

lmao stay poor you little turd

>>3654355

What the absolute fuck does all of that shit have to do with presenting a retouched photo (barely even a overpaint) as your original art?

>>3654068
Yes. They are, but people actually try to reason with him- they say that he basically stole someone else work, painted a sword on top and called it his own work. Didn't even credit the original author. Darek then proceeds to act like a angry child- literally. Totally unprofessional. He is lucky whole thing happens in Polish, because if everyone could understand Darek's posts he would probably never get a job in the industry again. You can actually see similar behavior on one of early Level Up sessions when two other guys make a bit of fun of Darek's terrible English, after they say "bye" Darek assumes that the stream is over, but you can hear him being pissed off for couple seconds. Also during the session he also got salty couple times for the same reason.

>>3654355
I can guarantee you art directors do not make that much. I make more than the average salary of an art director and I’m not rich by any means.

>>3654030
the only cringe here is the "bitch please" meme.

>>3654030
Cant believe i actually went ahead and paid actual real money to darek for a tutorial while i just download the good creators stuff off torrents.

im looking back in disgust right now, and i cant believe he even is doing work. like what is this perspective even? looks like someones work after their first tutorial. He has zero artistic skill

>>3654355
can we all agree whoever uses "crab" unironically on /ic/ is a complete NGMI shitposter?

i don't know how the guy is. i think you pretty much have to assume that in any competitive thing people will lie cheat and steal and take whatever shortcuts and tools are necessary to beat other people. art industry is not any different.

>>3654355
zoinks!

>>3654690
I know but it was the only image I found.

>>3654036
>concept artist
>can't come up with a concept and just edits other people's work
Pottery.

>>3654036
I mean if he seriously has short deadline I can't complain him for photobashing but all he did was just add a red beam to a cosplay photo.

>>3654692
There is nothing wrong with the image you posted. It also is a good concept art because it portrays the mood of the game

>>3654692
>even his signature, the only bit he did himself, is lopsided

>>3654036

I like the instant damage control. I don't mind photo bashing but this is just lazy. I mean if you re just gonna add some effects and other garbage might as well just give them the photo you copied instead of trying to "wow" you're followers.

>>3654036
>Edon Guraziu
>And that confirms even more that Darek is a true concept artist and does not give a single fuck how he gets to his result. The greatest concept artists are the best cheaters :)

>>3654839
No compositional focus. No dominant value or color. Too much detail everywhere. Looks like polished mediocre trash.

>>3654834
it's not even cosplay, it's official starwars art

>>3654632
holy shit! what is wrong with this darek guy. and he is a pro? ok, for my next character commission for a bigger client, i will use his work as a background, if he is ok with this behavior, i dont care either. are you in fellow anons?

>>3654030>>3654036>>3654692
I fucking hate this, this approach to CA is done because you are supposed to push out a huge amount of artwork fast and also the artwork itself isn't supposed to be used as the product! but as a rough guidelines as to where to go with the actual project. Basically the art is to use and throw away, meanwhile you have this people RIPPING OFF 80% of an image with barely any effort adding bits and pieces and putting it on their galleries and whatnot as if it was a full blown illustration they did, not giving a fuck to AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THE ORIGINAL MATERIAL THEY USED. This is fucking disgusting. It's fucking plagiarism.

>>3654937
Please do so. PLEASE.

>>3654958
i will do it in the upcoming month, and i will post the result here in the new thread so one of you can post it to him directly. i am so excited of his reaction

>>3654981
but isn't the difference that, unlike what he did, you would acually be making money out of his work?

>>3654958
even worse is that these hacks bash together some shitty piece then sell it to people as if it was a full illustration that took days of work

>>3655018
put up a ko-fi for it and ill throw some bucks at you just to legitimize it

>>3655018
No. It's not difference. If you want to make money you need to own a nice portfolio in the first place. Is it ok if I put Dave Rapozas artworks into my portfolio to get a job? But I didn't sell them, lol...

>>3654958
I saw some drama posts on FB today, some Chinese guy teaches in China and his Artstation is full of artwork bashed from other artists. I remember he used Pupeter Lee's character drawing's face in his piece for example.

And then there is Feng who says you should be really carefull and use your own photos for photobashing and not download anything from google to stay away from troubles.

>>3654714
No.

>>3654036
anyone has the mammoth pic in there?
god didn't know Polish facebook is so based

>>3655449

>>3654632
I can't even watch the levelup videos his english and fucking voice are that bad

So concept art is actually a mood board. >>3655117
I think there’s a different term for that, frankinstining or something.

>>3655545
photobashing

>>3654714
No, that's fucking stupid.

>>3654714
I thought we all knew this already

>>3654364
How does it feel to know even on /ic/ there’s people who can draw better than you, Darek?

>>3654692
Some of his Ass Creed work are self-parody level bad. Is there any reason this hack got hired other than having connections?

>>3657692
having connections is far more important than talent in any field

>>3654355
>being this much of a bootlicker
if some of these artists are so successful why do you feel the need to constantly defend them whenever someone says a bad thing about them?

>>3654355
>the guy has millions of views on his artstation and probably works as an art director making hundreds of thousands of dollars

Maybe? Lots of unethical people succeed in life and make lots of money. They're still liars, though. Calling them out isn't being a "crab," it's holding them accountable for lying.

I'm sorry, painting over someone else's art and selling it as your own is wrong, even if it does make you a lot of money.

nothing wrong with bashing if its done right

>>3658025

>by posting a painting that looks like shit ill surely convince them

>>3658025
you're right but good looking bashes are pretty fucking rare.
your pic looks kinda shit, stiff and emotionless. work has been put into it but there's nothing there.

>>3658025
If your're going to give an example at least give a good looking one.

here's some good photobash

>>3658230
i unironically kinda hate that, but we all have our own taste.

>>3658349
I'm the guy that posted it, and I don't like that too, but at least you can call it effective concept art, like you can tell the mood from it and it gives 3D artists an idea of how to build the environment. I can't say the same with Darek Zabrocki's "art", he obviously takes photos he didn't take himself and added filters and vague "brush strokes" to make it look """painterly""", and that's it. He contributes very little and it baffles me how he gets hired at all.

I pushed myself into a hole by learning to photobash over relatively unknown photos and shit. Sometimes it was borderline plagiarism. I knew there was a problem when a client asked for something and i finally declined because there wasn't any reference for what they wanted. I literally had zero imagination on my own.

I look at my work from the past 4-5 years and i'm so ashamed of the artist i've become. I'm just restarting to learn how to properly paint from imagination and being happy with my own ideas instead of comparing to others. I need to learn how to properly be inspired.

I hate artists like this because it makes it seem like my original train of thought is absolutely valid when it is clearly not. Don't do what i did my bros.

Work hard and discover how to create beautiful art, don't take the easy way.

>>3658368
Oh im the guy that posted that white queen photobash.
Anyway, for Darek Zabrocki however i think he's hit and miss, but it does seem like he produces alot, and hustlin' goes a long way in getting hired, and i respected that.

>>3658376
>hustlin' goes a long way in getting hired, and i respected that
Well, I don't. I think he takes credits for things he didn't actually do himself. If left to his own devices, he is undoubtedly beg-tier. Just look at pic-related, it is something he made for a demo, a live demo , as a professional, to students who want to work in the entertainment industry, and this is the best he can do. It's fucking embarrassing.

>>3658389

it'd be like that sometimes

>>3658251

I like how the armor looks but the upper hand with the french manicure...God. Looks like it's copy pasted directly from some deviant art pose sheet. He could atleast have done some subtle blending and brush strokes on top to take away from that perfect studio lighting feel.

>>3658389

that's... that's literally just two photos with some stick figures on it. that can't be for real.

I kind of work Darek produces even valuable for anything except for pre production and marketing?

>>3658446
Is*

Concept art is the most souless form of art anyway.

>>3658418
I just don't know what I'm reading on this one to be fair, points don't compare equally, like 6? So on the right is good that there's some sense of narrative or action but on left there isn't? So what is the plane crashing onto the island? It's not like the dude running with a pistol and some kind of firefight on the horizon is such a complex narrative compared with the plane.
And then while they are both doing a similar thing but one looks less photographic, labeled as "execution is amateur", is marked as a negative?

I really don't get at all this comparison, is surreal. Who put this together? Is it from the onepixelbrush studio?

>>3658457

Yes, here http://onepixelbrush.com/hiring/

>>3654714
Yea, and also people that use the acronym NGMI.

>>3658418
>lots of unique ideas that could not be found in any one picture or image
>some sense of action of narrative

Now they are just making shit up.

>>3658418
>Plane with an engine out crash landing in an achipalago
vs
>Sci fi man with gun walking towards cliff for no clear purpose

Action and narrative?????

>>3658482
Gets even better on the bottom ones. I can't take this seriously. This point even goes completely against what photobashing and 3D modeling+lighting paintover is supposed to do which is cut down time, and suddenly on this one, is really good to put the time to layer those gradients!

>>3658457
>>3658489
There is no room for argument here, there is only what this particular employer/client is looking for. The customer is always right, even when it doesn't know what it wants. Accepting this is part of being a concept art cog.

>>3658418
lmao

If this is the result you are going for, you can look at 2000's graphic card box art.

>>3658504
Sure, but also you can judge potential employers/clients by the way the express their needs, this one is biased an all over the place, doing a por job of what they actually mean on certain points, for instance, that last "hours" one, I get they want a certain level of polish, but the way it was written sounds awful, so if someone does the same polish but under less time thus not "putting the hours", then it should be considered not within scope specified by that statement and rejected? I know it might be convoluted but you can judge their character bases on the way the expressed themselves and organazied their points, I would see them as trouble down the line desu.

Implying that he cant paint ... his job is not that of an illustrator , he doesnt need to paint everything from scratch for his work , sure you can spend a week on a piece that takes someone 3 hours to photobash color correct and present as a finished piece ,but no one will hire you as a concept artist with that kind of productivity. People need to differentiate an illustrator who makes splash art for League or cards for Magic vs people who are expected to make at least one finished piece a day sometimes

>>3660290
wow he can copy a painting by someone else

>>3658418
I'm trash at art so I can't tell whether this is serious or a memepost, at least to me the left pic is way better and the reasons given sound fucking retarded.

>>3660290
Most professional concept artists photobash without stealing other people's work.
Darek on the other hand uses whatever image he wants, make average quality work, and acts like a children when people point it out.

Besides, no one ever hired him to produce that Star Wars pic. He had no deadline, and yet he chose the laziest method to impress normies.

>>3660290

Well concept art isn't just taking photos from others, the point is to design something with them which he didn't. That picture is basically nothing more than a photo edit with almost no transformative quality whatsoever. Again, taking a photo off the internet and throwing some adjustments and brush strokes on it is not concept art.

>>3660383
>>3660290
I hope this thieving twat contracts dysentery.

>>3660383
So I assume youve never done master studies ?

>>3662327
>master "study"
>turns up the saturation on everything
>invents background MUH SUNSET BUILDINGS
>doesn't even attempt to emulate the mark making or bruhstrokes
>captures none of the subtle background haze evoked by the original


>signs it

haha ebin study bretty educational :DDDDDD

>>3662327
I do. I don't post them on the internet because it's pointless to show them off. A master study doesn't show your own abilities.

>>3662616
So are you upset that he opted to post his study?

>>3662327
So I assume you always post master studies to your portfolio to try and make people believe you came up with that?

>>3662616
>A master study doesn't show your own abilities.

Not to the full extent ofcourse, but they do give a very good idea of your general fundamentals.

>>3662817
No. Stop building straw men.

>>3658418
Left is so much better

>>3657692
p o s t
y o u r
w o r k

>>3663005
Sure, let me paint a sword over Mullins's work.

>>3657692
Wtf did he cut and paste an impressionist painting and add a shitty glow on the left? The art director must be incompetent af to allow the game logo on this garbage.

>>3657692
wew lad

>>3663921
Yea, that's what I think happened. That's probably the reason Ass Creed Unity still looks better than Syndicate. Just a combination of passable, mediocre art direction and hiring hacks like Darek.

>>3663005

Yea quick coffee break illustration here using cutting edge industry techniques.

HMU if you need any tips

ikanna.droh@gmail.com

>>3663005
Hi Darek, your partner in crime here. Just posting the """study""" that got me popular.

>>3660290
>>3660383
what the actual fuck is this tiny lil treat

>>3665197
next-level painterly virtuoso brushwork

>>3665197
color dynamic brushes are so good for setting up nice canvas background , I feel like not enough people use them

>>3658025
this makes me feel disgusted.

>>3665469
why