/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

DRAMA

For streams to twitch it's actually #art. They changed it.

>>3653666
Blog?

>>3653666
nice tits

Part of a bigger Kero Blaster thing I’m working on

>>3653689
I really like this one, good job!
got a blog?

>>3653658
CUTE CUTE CUTE ASUKA CUTE

>>3653732
CUTE CUTE CUTE

>>3653735
CUTE CUTE CUTE
seriously though I loved that one, very nice figure ande the colors are so nice

>>3653712
Thanks! All I’ve got is a Twitter at the moment but I only post art relevant stuff.
@ohheythatfisher

>>3653666
smurf?

>>3653742
Yeah.
>>3653672
https://twitter.com/TheGoldenSmurf

>>3653741
lmao had to make a twitter, but I'm looking forward to your progress dud

>>3653719
>>3653736
>>3653738
KIKE KIKE KIKE.

>>3653772
yeah sorry I like people's art, get a life crab

:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6RCTw415n8

>>3653780
i really like that pic frend

>>3653741
holy shit dude, your stuff is great

>>3653818
Super confident work. I like it.

>>3653780
No I am a NEET and I will harass you every thread forward.

>>3653735
Looks neat. Do youuse MS paint?

>>3653877
I do

>>3653658
how do i get this good?

>>3653889
if you are giantess anon let me tell you your latest pieces have seen an absolute step forward in terms of pose, use of perspective and of ambient stuff(how 2 explain) I've always liked your work but jjst wanted to mention that I've noticed you suddenly became better, like something clicked somewhere. do you have a tumblr? if yiu arent giant anon then I still love that work you posted, the light on her is soo nice

>>3653904
Really? I don't feel like that happened, in fact I kind of rushed this one out because I felt it was kind of lacking...

I'm https://twitter.com/Yilxaevum on twitter

I have a question for /alt/, what do you think about the so called "same-face syndrome" that plagues the anime style or alternative styles in general? Do you do anything to "combat" it or do you simply ignore it and continue to draw?

>>3653920
retarded question by a retarded person

>>3653920
You can sort of alleviate it by cycling through different eye shapes and changing the face proportions a bit. You will always get called out by it though from some sperg so you just gotta ignore them.

>>3653666
Man your hair is unappealing as shit

>>3653925
Explain it to me then why it is a retarded question.
Same-face syndrome is a real thing, just take a look at most of the anime that airs nowadays or popular anime artists and you can easily notice it, I'm just trying to see what's the general opinion on it.

>>3653920
Trying to combat a preset aesthetic just for the sake of being different is how you end up with tumblr nose and similar garbage styles.

There is literally nothing wrong with generic anime style.

Is this kind of stuff allowed?

>>3653956

>>3653958
Sure, blog? I kinda like these designs

>>3653970
It's mostly those two drawings using this kind of design, there's a lot of garbage here.
http://astrayfromtheclowder.tumblr.com/

>>3653911
make a tumblr ;_; am lazy don't like twitter layout or if u have a pixiv i can follow there 2

Hi anons, I've been struggling with rendering for a while now. I can't identify why everything I render looks so messy and not clean, I try to take my time and analyze what I'm doing wrongly, but I just can't find the error in my ways. My linework also "doesnt work" in combination with the rendering, causing me to erase certain parts of it, making it more transparent so that it isn't really visible, but I really hate doing this and instead I want the rendering and linework to work with eachother. pic related is btw referenced from one of yoshinari his drawings.

Can some fellow brother anon offer some insight in what I'm doing wrongly (and/or what I should practice to get better in this).

I did these character designs for class and I feel like they don't really look like they're from the same universe. What's the biggest problem?

>>3653741
crazy stuff on your twitter anon, crazy linework

>>3654019
Have you tried Greyscale drawing before? Maybe then adding color on top of it.

>>3654027
It looks too dark. You can barely make any of them out. Try lighter colors and move throughout the colors from light to dark not ultra dark only.
>>3653920
Same face syndrome has not existed for awhile. It use to be way worse in the early 2000's with anime. Nowadays there is different ways to pull it off and even add designs to eyes.

gotta keep drawing circles

>>3654043
Yeah nah, I disagree. I don't see how it's too dark.

>>3654037
yeah, a couple of times, but then I still experience the same problems with messy rendering and linework that does not work with the rendering.

>>3654027
They aren’t using a consistent pallet. The greens, blues and reds of one are completely different from those of the other. Try to pick the colors you want first

>>3654059
Thanks man. You're right. I'll try to keep it in mind next time.

>>3654027
Consistent shape language and colour pallettes, check this vid out for some pointers

https://youtu.be/crCZEQEgFZ0

>>3654053
I mean the right side. I get what you were going for but it looks like you did black rather than the darker version of the color itself near the black.
https://youtu.be/Y38JkEeADj0 watch this tutorial to understand what I am saying.

>>3654214
That is such an awkward mismash of poses. You gotta settle with one cohesive idea dude

>>3654218
the basic idea is her lil brother finding her smoking and she being angry about that but i didnt changed the face.

>>3654172
Thanks a lot! That was incredible helpful.

>>3653666

>>3653732
>>3653735
blog?

>>3654019
>I can't identify why everything I render looks so messy and not clean
Because it's messy and not clean anon.
1/ The line are messy, jaggy. Be more confident
2/ You need to practice edge control, everything look blurry, muddy.
If you having a hard time with linework, maybe try out painting.
Here's a 5 min fix before i go to work, keep on drawing, you will get there soon enough.

i miss firez :(

>>3654214
Western spy, does not know how to squat

>>3654387
ive sent him the memo

>>3654456

>>3654458

>>3654459

>>3654339
lol

>>3654461
Middle panel is incomprehensible

don't think i'll have any more time to work on this until next week, bummer

ah... em, is there any wrong on it? should I keep going?

What do you usually do when you've hit a wall of creativity/ art block? I can't think of any ideas of what to draw

>>3654565
You keep drawing cute anime girls, duh

>>3654339
Thanks for the answer brother anon.
So it does not have anything to do with the thickness of the linework and the hardness of the brush used to do it?

Disregarding the face, I'm a bit stunned how you could do the hair so cleanly in so little time, can you share how exactly you did this with what kind of brushes. How are you making the gradients on the shapes while keeping it clear and non blurry?

Thanks again, I'm gonna follow your advice either way and focus on edge control.

>>3654505
cute octo! Do you have a blog?
His neck is too long/thick, I made some adjustments

>>3654505
cute octo! Do you have a blog?
I also made some adjustments on his neck, the original one is too thick/long

>>3654679
>>3654505
oops forgot pic

>>3653666
how do you practice your bodies anon-kun

Any advice on this menhera-chan i'm drawing?

>>3654014
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=304834

>>3654600
>So it does not have anything to do with the thickness of the linework and the hardness of the brush used to do it?
The lines in your drawing was jaggy with pixel break everywhere so i'm wondering what kind of brush did you used desu.
If you want to line, just use G-Pen, thick line is usually for western stuff so if you want to draw anime then use smaller size.
Draw on really really big canvas help too if you want those thin and sharp as hell lines that anime have.
As for brush, my style is painting so i don't know how much it can help you.

>>3654743
well i finished it

>>3654830
let me see her pussi

Here's my stuff

drawing this is fun as fuck

>>3654836
Webcomic tier.

Also very nice.

>>3654899
gay boi

>>3654804
Oh I just used a regular hard brush in photoshop with pencil texture, I was trying something new but it did not go well. As for the pixelbreaks, that's because I was trying something new to speed up the lay process, but that also went very wrong.

I draw with a pretty thin brush usually, drawing most things with one line, but what often happens is that it "sticks out" through the shading because it is a single thin line, that's why I was asking if it maybe was due to the thickness or hardness of the brush. But maybe I should just go over the single line more often? I really don't know how I can fix it, but I guess I just have to try a lot of different things to find out how to fix it.

I tried again with the shading, but this time without line-art, just shapes. I focused solely on the hair and trying to keep everything clean. I feel like I've learned something, but I still need a lot of practice.

If you have an another idea about the line problem I'm all ears. Thank you very much for all your help anon.

>>3654930
why doth thee hurts me this way :'^D

>>3654932
cuz u drawin girls in dresses duhhh tsk tsk

>>3654939
PRETTY DRESSES ARE SEXY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
>how much I wish I can draw bara big muscled men without feeling like the gayest person on earth

>>3653735
how many times do I have to tell you about the toes yev? You even get hounded about it on the porn threads. Come on, the soles toes, the stubs Work on them please yev
bad feet, not happy feet

>>3654214
the head looks oversized for the body, also the feet look tiny. I'd personally like her to squat soles flat, like true slav

>>3654679
>>3654681
Thank you, i'll fix it as soon as i get a chance
My blog is @miruku-p, though i dont post much
>>3654899
Blog?

>>3654947
NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>3654985
https://twitter.com/salmondesuno
http://salmondraws.tumblr.com

set up a new twitter recently, some anon on another thread said extremely low follower-following ratio can fuck over an account, curating and retweeting older artworks and observing what triggers the algorithm
>r18 stuff gets really low views for some reason
>posting the sfw version with the exact same texts bring in a lot more impressions

>>3654985
thanks! followed!

>>3654985
thanks for the follow!

>>3654497
Neck/head is too forward

>>3654992
people are less ashamed to engage with non-lewd content

>>3654505
his body is 25% NECK

>>3653930
Still better than your work crab

>>3654931
Do from studies anon

>>3655070
>Form
Sorry

>>3653741
>>3653689
Holy shit, I knew you made some porn in the other threads but i didn't know you had some sfw stuff
And it's really amazing, i'm even more mad jelly of you now
I remember you saying you've drawn for like 5 years now or something?

Has anyone had any success with merging an anime art style with a western comics one and getting decent results?

It's something I want to aim for, and I wasn't sure if this was the right thread to ask about it or not.

>>3655077
Oh man, I was just experimenting with that and I don't think I got it working but I'll leave my current sketchbook page for giggles.
>>3653689 Very nice, but the gun? Needs more details to read as a gun, only cue right now is the hands gesture. Should convey a bit better what it does visually.
>>3653956>>3653958 I really like the mouse pose and shape design. I feel you need to add some pinkish on his ears though, or suggest more the inner ear with something better than grey.
>>3654339 Great paintover. I dig the hair now.
>>3654497 The pose still wireds me out a tad, there something with the arms and the legs/torso turning that I disagree with. But damn the color makes it look striking! Very persona style.
>>3654554 Far away arm looks forced like that, also thinner than what I had expected. I would do a redline but I'm busy lately working on my own stuff.
>>3654565 Let yourself go and do stuff you would never try out. Or look for ideas in places like random generators.
>>3654830 Limbs look really long, but cohesive so might be a style thing.
>>3654836 Great storytelling, but you should work on your overall drawing quality a bit more.
>>3654899 Looks nice, has a fairy tail vibe to it, reminds me of wendy? I barely recall.

>>3654505
where'd the shoulders go bro?

>>3655077
https://twitter.com/bkrbnr
This guy seth might tickle you fancy

i dont think i ever posted the finished version. sorry about the watermark- it's there because it was a commission.

>>3655115
i like your stuff- blog?

>>3654836
this is really charming ha

>>3655128
Cute, I like how clean your painting is.

>>3655124
thanks for the recommendation- i really like this guy's style

>>3655077
Jorge Jimenez (pic from Super Sons)

trying to get back into drawing again :x

>>3655128
work on proportions, her face is too big when her head is too small and the eyes and mouth look derpy as fuck and not in the good way

>>3653732
yev is really improving

>>3655165
I hope that's not supposed to be anthy.

>>3655128
I don't have anything set up yet anon, but thanks for asking! I like yours too! I would expect the other fang to show on the mouth. The soft shading is pleasing!

>>3655124 Good stuff in there!
>>3655138 Damn, that's a killer, but I see it more western style with certain anime/manga gesture choices, like the trembling mouth lines. I understood it more like having a clearly western character alongside a more manga-anime one at the same time alongside, sort of like when they do realism with cartoon characters on live action lol.

>>3655165 Looks promising. The far away glass is bigger than the nearside one, which is odd perspective wise, unless they are purposely asymmetric glasses.

>>3655165
Blog?

>>3654836
mediocre desu

Looks like those comics dobson does, but worse

>>3655071
np, appreciate it, but can you elaborate a bit more what form studies are? an example or something.

>>3655115
Thanks, now that you say it, i notice that the limbs are very long

>>3654832
we're on a chistian board anon

>>3655201
Too late, already merged layers. Thanks though!
>>3655220
Not extremely active; but my Insta is https://www.instagram.com/shameboxx/
>>3655186
It is, why???

>>3655168
>>3655168
yeah i overdid it with the size of the eyes for sure.
also- is that you, mehmeh? you crit in the same round-about, nonsensical way that he does.

if anyone has edits they'd like to make, i'm curious to see them. i know there are other issues with the face, but after noodling for 2 hours, i gave up on trying to fix them.

>>3655235
I don't have better ones, nor ones that I did myself, but here

>>3653658
I feel like I'm not improving what are some exercises I can do?

>>3654554
This angle is really great

>>3655335
Practice form using gesture and study perspective. Your drawings feel very stiff and flat

>>3655396
The colors read really well, even from thumbnail goddamn.

Fucking around on photoshop

>>3655411
Finish it.

>>3655235
Something like this. Just to make your forms more accurate using light and shadow shapes.

>>3654505
kawaii-!
>>3654899
nice coloring but the dress feels flat

>>3655340
zank you

>>3655115
If you make that red-line, ill suck your cummies anon

>>3653658

>>3655600

>>3655601

>>3655600
>>3655601
>>3655602
like these a lot, you post online anywhere?

>>3653818
giv blog

I drew it myself

>>3655612
yeh

>>3655654
Wonderful, keep at it

>>3655654
Hey aren't you that discord autist?

redid a sketch from april

>>3655668
I thought that was moth girl

>>3655671
who

>>3655673

>>3655675
don't know how you arrived on that one but ok

should i fix anything?

>>3655654
You again

>>3654456
>>3654459
>>3654461
Anon, please stop with the kinds of layouts you're using. Especially in >>3654456
There's 3 basic rules to setting up panels in a comic
>neutral page layout is a 2x3 grid, with 3 rows of 2 panels
>increase or decrease size of panel, based on significance of what happens in it
>readers eyes will always cross the bar of the "T" that your gutters form, before crossing the arms

You should be avoiding layouts in >>3654456 and >>3654459 like the plague.

>>3655668
why she got icepacks wrapped around her arm?

>>3655668
Pretty good, I liked the concept
The face and helmet is well done
her left hand needs more work
Why did she have pillows wrapped around her arms though?

>>3655668
>that design
everything is mishmashed: helmet, pillows, dress, nothing fits with the rest.

>>3655741
In his defense, what if it's supposed to look stupid?
I mean, it's probably not, but it could be.

>>3655744
Even you know that's very unlikely.

>>3654804
you sound like a faggot desu UwU

>>3655747
I know, Anon. But I can't squash out this feeling of hope in people, that I have. Despite knowing better.

>>3655063
well, Here's what I tried:
I tweeted a pic out with an R18 text on it and also another 5min later without one
My account is new since I'm restarting it, so high chance it's the algorithm's doing. Only 6 followers now.
The one with R18 text on it managed to get ~30 impressions in 40 mins while the other managed to get around 100 in 20 mins. Then I deleted the R18 one and tweet out again the safe version, then it managed to get around 100 in 20 mins.
Twitter's algorithm is dumb as fuck, I have no idea what's happening half the time.

>>3655115
thanks
>reminds me of wendy?
prolly not, it's just a typical animu idol

>>3655472
Yeah, it's hard to keep up the 'fluff' with the patterns

>>3655729
Understood, thanks.

>>3653788
Comfy

>>3655772
Good. I forgot one thing, though.
the range of panels you can have in a page are from 1-10 or so. 1 being just a full page spread, and the 10 being like, 2 rows of 3, and one row of 4.
But 10 is really pushing it, and I'd advise keeping it around 7 or 8.

>>3655701
Yeah and I finally drew Wadanohara

>>3654459
I like it.

>>3654456
for future reference, if you're trying to imply that he's missing his cheek make sure to keep in mind that the upper row of teeth is fixed to the skull, they dont move at all.

looks edgy and fun, where can i read the rest?

>>3655871
Forgot to add this

Saw an old incomplete drawing of mine. Remembered that I stopped drawing this because of plenty of reasons but I want to complete it now so that it would stop haunting me.
I need guidance please.

>>3655679
yeah your life

>>3655668
sameface again
she looks so brittle those arms could snap any second

>>3655256
>red board
no buddy NOW LET ME SEE PUSSY

Am I ready to stylize? It feels criminal to be drawing so generic.

Hello guys! Lovely day today, isnt it?

>>3655679
pose looks correct but it's pretty stiff and bland imo

@3655909
>snib

>>3655958
hey. this is nice. keep it up

>>3655730
>>3655736
>>3655741
>pillows
I dunno ask me back in april, I draws what I sees
>>3655912
You look so brittle I could snap you any second

>>3655958
Is that you?

>>3655973
snap me big boy

>>3655396
stop doing only 3/4 view and greek profile faces you can tell you struggle with everyhting else

>>3655981
*snaps u*

>>3656000
Awww fuark bro
I think you broke my arm too

>>3655903
You struggle to grasp drapery and wrinkles

The clothing is stiff and half of the image feels still, despite the other half implying is moving

>>3655958
Blog?

>>3655936
Uh did you forget your picture anon?

>>3655780
thanks x

What's you guy's take on this piece I've done?

>>3656074
Reminds me of this artstyle

>>3655958
I really like it anon. But the hair feels too much like a cushion/pillow. Something soft, cushy but not hair. Well if she is some kind of android/robot, that could work. Else you might want to break your highlights or add some texture feel to the line work. If it's intended, you got it.
>sleeps on her head

I really dig the pose and soft shading also.

>>3656019
Wow, thanks for the advice anon!
Regarding the lines of the calves, would that be crumples of the stockings?

>>3656097
yeah

>>3656107
Thanks, I'll try to fix it now and make a mental note of clothes and movements.

>>3656107
Not sure if the stockings should have crumples though

>>3655982
Thanks, I'll work on that.

>>3655903>>3656019>>3656107>>3656130
Hmm, well I'm definitively happy to see someone help out someone else but I can't agree with some of the lines and suggestion you did.
The most strange are definitively the sock/stocking long black line, makes no sense. Not sure how are you going to create such a wrinkling (transversal) when the forces in place are stretching the fabric up (heel), out(calf muscle) and down (gravity) also it's pretty tight fabric, you might see some wrinkling maybe like that near the ankles but I don't see it doing something like you suggest, as if someone was pushing from the sides.
Heck I even put myself a sock to try it out and the only wrinkling you see is on the tibia-ankle upper side just because you are keeping the foot coming towards you and then is very faint, cascading of small wrinkles on that end. That said I don't have socks as long, so take it with a grain of salt. I just don't see it at the mo.

The inner strap holding the breast (let's say bikini top) definitively won't be flailing around like so, else how the breast are holding shape? Then again maybe they are bouncing, still I would expect that piece to stick the the body and stretch/follow the breast and ribcage since that's how they work in reality, they probably won't have any say on keeping the breast in check with such surface and design. I don't get why they are floating over the body like that. Unless is for appealing exaggerations.

I can only agree with the bottom of the top wrinkling which looks nice but the straps are really rigid and feel as if you were blowing air from below.

The skirt shows the same blowing issue, it should be a mixture of hanging down on the straight down leg and going up/mildly floating from the kicking leg. The underwear has too many dark lines and the form you are suggesting underneath looks oversized. Again maybe it's for exaggerating appeal reasons. But I feel it's just odd.

>>3655903>>3656019>>3656107>>3656130
Hmm, well I'm definitively happy to see someone help out someone else but I can't agree with some of the lines and suggestion you did.
The most strange are definitively the sock/stocking long black line, makes no sense. Not sure how are you going to create such a wrinkling (transversal) when the forces in place are stretching the fabric up (heel), out(calf muscle) and down (gravity) also it's pretty tight fabric, you might see some wrinkling maybe like that near the ankles but I don't see it doing something like you suggest, as if someone was pushing from the sides.
Heck I even put myself a sock to try it out and the only wrinkling you see is on the tibia-ankle upper side just because you are keeping the foot coming towards you and then is very faint, cascading of small wrinkles on that end. That said I don't have socks as long, so take it with a grain of salt. I just don't see it at the mo.

The inner strap holding the breast (let's say bikini top) definitively won't be flailing around like so, else how the breast are holding shape? Then again maybe they are bouncing, still I would expect that piece to stick the the body and stretch/follow the breast and ribcage since that's how they work in reality, they probably won't have any say on keeping the breast in check with such surface and design. I don't get why they are floating over the body like that. Unless is for appealing exaggerations.

I can only agree with the bottom of the top wrinkling which looks nice but the straps are really rigid and feel as if you were blowing air from below.

The skirt shows the same blowing issue, it should be a mixture of hanging down on the straight down leg and going up/mildly floating from the kicking leg. The underwear has too many dark lines and the form you are suggesting underneath looks oversized. Again maybe it's for exaggerating appeal reasons. But I feel it's just odd.

>>3655903>>3656019>>3656107>>3656130

Hmm, well I'm definitively happy to see someone help out someone else but I can't agree with some of the lines and suggestion you did.
The most strange are definitively the sock/stocking long black line, makes no sense. Not sure how are you going to create such a wrinkling (transversal) when the forces in place are stretching the fabric up (heel), out(calf muscle) and down (gravity) also it's pretty tight fabric, you might see some wrinkling maybe like that near the ankles but I don't see it doing something like you suggest, as if someone was pushing from the sides.
Heck I even put myself a sock to try it out and the only wrinkling you see is on the tibia-ankle upper side just because you are keeping the foot coming towards you and then is very faint, cascading of small wrinkles on that end. That said I don't have socks as long, so take it with a grain of salt. I just don't see it at the mo.

The inner strap holding the breast (let's say bikini top) definitively won't be flailing around like so, else how the breast are holding shape? Then again maybe they are bouncing, still I would expect that piece to stick the the body and stretch/follow the breast and ribcage since that's how they work in reality, they probably won't have any say on keeping the breast in check with such surface and design. I don't get why they are floating over the body like that. Unless is for appealing exaggerations.

I can only agree with the bottom of the top wrinkling which looks nice but the straps are really rigid and feel as if you were blowing air from below.

The skirt shows the same blowing issue, it should be a mixture of hanging down on the straight down leg and going up/mildly floating from the kicking leg. The underwear has too many dark lines and the form you are suggesting underneath looks oversized. Again maybe it's for exaggerating appeal reasons. But I feel it's just odd.

>>3656185
Well I give up, probably reached max characters per post but I meant >>3656130 also.
I guess I'll add for the underwear best use shading rather than lines to define the underlying forms.

>>3656182
>>3656184
>>3656185
fucking retard

>>3656188
lol sorry, I marked for deletion, give it some time.

>>3655862
Thanks, bud.

>>3655871
You are right, but as it turns out, he is one of many victims of a planar anomaly that spaghettified half a city. So parts of his body were literally stretched and twisted as if by blackhole. His mouth is definitely intended to be stretched and twisted as much as it is. With that in mind, was there a better way for me to both convey and draw that?


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>>3656019
>>3656185
Thanks I was about to post a fix, although it's probably not as accurate.
But then I just saw >>3656185, so I'll fix it up again.

Hello any feedback about this? at least I didn't fill her skin and imo is a pretty cool result

>>3656185
While I agree in the long sock one I disagree in just about everything else (more or less)

I thought op was going for a jumping thing rather than a kick one (if that's the case I wouldn't see why the top should be showing the inner of it).

Which is why there is so much "jumping" and "blowing wind"

>>3656185
Here, I fixed some of the stuff you mentioned, But I kept the loose bikini top to see if it's better.

>>3656263
much better

>>3653658
WIP

and no, the girl in the left isn't a giant.

Dumb perspective is betraying me

>>3656277
What is the girl on the right supposed to sit on?

>>3656284
the other girl butt!

>>3656258
>jumping thing rather than a kick on
It's the "jump type", but it wasn't obvious enough, sorry about that.

>>3656277
>>3656286
The only way for her to sit at the butt from that angle, she have to put quite an amount of force so that she would stay on the butt, also it won't feel pleasant or balanced.
You might as well give her a seat or fix the positions so they would be closer.

>>3656277
Err basically I'm saying that seating on the outer side of the right butt cheek is extremely difficult in that position.

Hey guys!

>>3656258>>3656287
Well, okay, if she was free falling, then I can understand the blowing of the clothing, still, out of frame we are all guessing, but it would had to be a pretty long fall or big acceleration to cause that naturally. Of course you can exaggerate for the sake of appeal as I keep saying. The bikini thing I still say is going overboard, it's like having a lose string instead of an actual bikini top lol. But lol, not my piece so it's just my opinion. So long you do those decisions consciously, then it's fine. It's your view after all.

>>3656300
I'm not sure what it is but there's something about this that makes it hard to look at. Colors too saturated maybe?

>>3656300
the stock background really stand out too much, also the shading on the bats look wack

>>3656300
this is cool, but like the other anon said the colors are a tad too saturated all over the pic, especially the bg sky could use a little toning down imo.

oi, am fackin doodlin

>>3656323
very nice

I'm not fond of lineart because it really makes me feel restricted and stiff, so for practice I decided to do it instead of going straight into painting that I'm comfortable with.

>>3656352
Do a crosshatching and pen & ink book.

You will force out the line-art incompetence.

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http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=A0B336FCA0BFD827DE6B7A10CFF9310B

>>3656300
Getting better once again. Nice.

>>3656365
Thanks I took some time off to do some studies and trying to level up.
>>3656319
Okay, normally my stuff is pretty lightly colored so I am going to try and strike a better medium from here on out.
>>3656318
Okay, I wanted to go more cartoony with the back ground because thats how the source is. Thanks for your input.
>>3656307
I could see that, maybe too much saturation and its stabbing you in the eye?

>>3656364
Thank you. It's kind of funny because I worked mainly with pen and ink before I even ventured into photoshop and it seems I've all but forgotten all about how to do it.

Small update

>>3655979
Who is this?
>>3655967
Thanku
>>3655966
Not all my art is this good. You wouldn't want to see my blog.
>>3655966
Her hair is really poofy and I didnt know how to convincingly portray it so I just did what I did.

>>3656289
>>3656292
Is this any better?

>>3656410
No. 2/3rds of the sitting girl's body isn't being supported by anything in the way you have her drawn. She'd fall over instantly. You'll need to either redraw her completely or redraw the whole image.

>>3655654
You're cute

>>3656413
I'll rather use the audience suspension of disbelief

>>3656410
Move top girl's forward leg a bit up so its more like she's pushing herself backwards onto her butt, it balances things a bit better since she'll be correcting the weight, as opposed to as it is now where it looks like she's perfectly balanced on her butt.

>>3656416
I don't know why you're being stubborn about this when her body is incorrectly, unappealingly proportioned and her face is literally nightmare-tier, but you do you. At least the girl on the ground is kind of cute.

>>3656421
Should Have said everything was wrong instead of making me waste 4 hours trying to correct it you cunts

>>3655602
train sketch

>>3656421
>>3656410
Started again

Is this pose better?

>>3655115
Leaving a bunch of additions to what I posted before, any comments greatly appreciated before I hopefully find the strength to clean them up. Or fill it with more silliness.

anything I should change or add to this? I'm not sure if I like the cape, I'm thinking of removing it or changing the color

>>3656487
Much more believable and much better.

>>3656564
For a sec there, I thought she had three fingers.

>>3656564
I think the cape is cute, maybe change the color of it and the hat band to a yellow or violet shade to restrict your color palette a bit more?

>>3656384
Have some confidence anon, if I asked your blog is because I want to see your other work, don't go thinking people will be disappointed
By the way is that ref pic you're using by that Vertigheist guy on twitter or something?

>>3655600
>>3655601
>>3655602
>>3655662
>>3656444
fucking horrid
do you have ANYTHING with an ounce of soul in it because that shit's so generic it's not even yours

>>3656384
you replied to the wrong person, anon

My anime game is still very weak, I'm not used to how it simplifies things and has more simple shapes
Considering to shade this after whatever it is I have to fix

>>3656564
The thumb area of her hand is kinda fucked, look in the mirror and try doing the pose yourself.

>>3656578
post an example of soul

>>3656774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRgWBN8yt_E

>>3656776
I definitely dont this sort of talent. sadly...I never will

>>3656723
Bro, what happened to her mouth?
Bro, what happened to your light source?

>>3656564
reminds me of tim lochner's stuff

>>3656575
You can find my tumblr in my twitter description @juste_VU
>>3656597
Noticed afterwards but didnt want to bring it up. I doubt they're upset at a free (you).

>>3656723
This is pretty. I'd like to see it complete.

>>3655982
Hey, it's the same guy again I'm having some trouble pinpointing what you mean by "everything else". Right now I'm doing more facial variety and more angles, is that what you wanted dude?

hey, who posted >>3650287 desu?
I think it's a shame that it didn't get a response, and I want to see more of it.

>>3656852
There too little detail to say much besides it need more detail. Everything looks a bit wonky in the page

How's this?
Because I'm honestly kind of afraid of pushing the style I was developing, before hardcore studying my fundamentals for the past few months.

>>3656888
The nightmare of details, of a design, for reference.

>>3656793
Thanks man. Disappointed in myself for giving up so I'll draw her again later. Was neat color shift/lassoing practice at least.

>>3656904
about the lasso painting thing, any particular study material you use or are you just experimenting? I tried something like it a few months back...

>>3656907
Just experimenting so far. I paint on one or two layers without temp layers so I've been looking for an easy way to create edge and paint over areas that get muddy. Used a lot of flat brush + oil with non-default texture in the beginning but now I'm also trying lasso + soft airbrush along with dense water or whatever it's called. Still trying to find a process that really makes sense.

Any advice before I start inking?

critique?

drew some ol sakuya bones

>>3657119
Does it fuck?

>>3657008
Go grab something similar to that axe handle and look at your hand, best in a mirror, doing that pose. Then check back the drawing. Her gesture I'm not sure how to read it, is she trying to be threatening or playful? Each breast doesn't seem to follow the same physics or are misaligned. Not sure how the hair is holding shape that way, slightly diagonally when the shirt bottom is holding shape, so there's magical wind.

>>3657119
I don't see anything glaring with it, it's simple but looks alright. The face is where I have disagreements, mainly if you use those vertical proportions, you need bigger eyes, else it looks like the face is too stretched down, if you want to have more realistic sized eyes as kind of how you do now, then the snout/nose mouth has to come up, of course since you seem to are trying to give it some lion feel maybe you want to stretch the face like so to follow cat skulls proportions, but at the moment, it's kind of an in between that bothers me a bit. The ears could use a bit more work, kind of simple and mousy looking.

The wings, you should check bird feathering patterns, I didn't had a clue myself of how they worked until a few days back when I started to study birds for the first time. Those wings, could be more believable if you check out birds anatomy first.

>>3655679
Looks better when colored I think

>>3643266

>>3643266

>>3657196
So the interesting point like the right foot coming forward you change it to something less appealing, the left arm feels now long and the right one in hiding short, and this one is probably the one you should had changed to make a more interesting visual story, show it back out somehow to create a better silhouette.

Lines are clean and have line weight, which is very pleasing, the face is nice. Head might be a bit overly exaggerated but I guess that's the point.

>>3657199
So the interesting point like the right foot coming forward you change it to something less appealing, the left arm feels now long and the right one in hiding short, and this one is probably the one you should had changed to make a more interesting visual story, show it back out somehow to create a better silhouette.

Lines are clean and have line weight, which is very pleasing, the face is nice. Head might be a bit overly exaggerated but I guess that's the point.

>>3657199
The right foot looks really bad. Too feet tii long and toes are unappealing with no shape to them, just a couple of sausages. Also cause you shifted the butt to the right in the reference, you've lengthened the whole body making it look slightly disproportioned.
Also the left arm you didn't finish or maybe she's just really swole.
Good lines thou

Progress!

This feels really bad... the values and gesture feel really off... help me /ic/, is it possible to salvage it?

>>3657268
Post it anon

>>3657269
Forgot to attach

>>3657272
Didn't you want to lineart it?

>>3657272
I hate the way you color so much.

>>3657275
I tried, but in the end I felt my sketch was better. Tried to fix more problems as I started to apply colours only to realize how off it was in almost every part.

>>3656528
you're getting there I think, probably a bit further than me, but you're still making some small mistakes on some figures, like for example the right dudes chest and "his" left arm. Maybe flip the canvas a bit more often if you're not already doing that enough. But again good shit.

>>3656790
Oh yeah, I remember you from that Sunday Mass discord

>>3657278
It's still possible to salvage.

Continue to complete your drawing with the lineart, your drawing would look way better with the additional details on the clothes. The sketchy style fails to show that.
Also, it would be much easier if you complete your lineart before you color.
Avoid rendering for when you attempt to color the lineart for the first time and then see for yourself how you wish to proceed

>>3657278
well cleaning shows the true nature of your sketch. If after cleaning it doesnt look to good, then your sketch wasnt a good one in the first place. So instead of running away from a weakness you discovered, why not try to work on it.

>>3657289
On that topic could I get a redline on the lineart? I feel it has a ton of anatomy errors still, but I am not skilled enough to know how to actually fix them...

>>3657292
Sorry, I don't think I'm capable enough to give someone an anatomy fix yet. Hopefully the other anons could provide you with it instead.

>>3657284
Oh thanks! I have troubles with the arms indeed on that pose, the one with the thumbs up I feel is not connecting with the chest completly, keeps bugging me. I went to the mirror and saw that I should have the biceps show a bit I think. The one on the hip I feel is short but I've gone over it and I can't make it work in a way that doesn't bug me either. I flip the canvas plenty actually ha ha. I just do these from the top of my head so there's always guessing from things I'm still learning about.
Thank you nonetheless! I would love to hear about the stylizations on the ones from the top left if you can. I'm kind of experimenting with that at the moment. Also, I would love to see your work since you are comparing, I don't have art buddies or anything to compare myself with. I of course have artist that I admire but they are so far away always...
Thanks again!

>>3657278
sketch's face is better. the eyes are too far apart on the right one.

Just gonna leave some unfinished work... Would still love to hear what you guys have to say about it.
>>3656528
Probably my favorite art of all the anons on this board, amazing work!
>>3656323
I love the facial expressions and the line art, keep it up!
>>3655411
Thats cool as fuck, I'd love to see the finished version of it
>>3657278
I definitely like the sketch better than the other, but I believe it's just cause of little things, like her cheeks not being thicker, as in the sketch... But that might just be me, I prefer the roughness of the left, the other is still -REALLY- good IMO.

>>3657245

>>3657360
I never tried that colouring style before but I could attempt.

>>3657360
>>3657366
Thanks anon!

>>3656364
>how to draw manga
>cover picture is this
Come on

>>3657360
That body is fucked, just try to finish it quickly and move on anon.

Are they any good western comics that are more minimal, kind of like Manga?
I find manga art style just appealing in the sense of utilizing empty space more, western comics seem to really like shoving clutter and color everywhere and it makes things look much less elegant and put together.
But my western game is a bit lacking.

>>3657413
>That body is fucked
That's not me, but that was a big reason as to why I never completed this a few months ago.
I'm to remove this from my list of incomplete drawings asap.

>>3657423
I meant
>I want to remove this from my list of incomplete drawings asap.
Kinda disturbs me when I saw it in the folder.

any more feedback on this before I clean it up?

>>3657452
Looks very desaturated.

>>3657452
ear and eyes distance too long.

>>3657412
How about you actually read it fag

is very good

is not even about how to draw characters

>post WIP 3 times
>No one says anything
>Almost finished
>everything is fucked / X is fucked anon, why do you waste time on it

Why the fuck do you niggers don't say anything until I'm like 4 hours in a drawing

>>3657472
I'm busy

>>3657472
Because now we can tell its shit because you're shit, as opposed to being worked on

>>3657472
>complaining about free critiques
ungrateful little shit

>>3657472
There's two difficult critiques anon, I can't handle more!

>>3654931
Tried rendering the hair yet again, maybe I've gone too far with blending, the shadowshapes are no longer clearly visible.

>>3655332
>>3655436
Thank you both, I did one yesterday. This is definitely something that can help me I think.

>>3657488
Is not even a favor if you don't comply on it.

>>3657497
Now it just look like mud....

>>3657499
>>3657472
Which one is yours?

>>3657501
well fuck, I thought this was atleast better, but then I've definitely gone too far with trying to blend and get more form in to it. I'll prob do it again, being more subtle and clean.

Any advice for perspective and anatomy?

>>3657245
I got home and I felt I needed to comment on this, because so much work was done on it. It would have been good if the torso were to follow the more natural curve and pelvis and upper torso were to fit together more tightly. I basically just moved pelvis up and to our right a little. Redrawn the crotch region because what you currently have look more like if the legs was spread apart. Take it with a grain of salt though, still might be good to find some sort of reference for this sort of pose. It would have been good if something like anatomy were to be tackled while it was just line art, because when you started coloring and shading there is a strong inertia against going back to make big changes.

>>3657350
Thanks a lot for your kind words! I'm lazy ass >>3656528 lol.
I wanted to also give leave you a tiny comment on your picture, I really like the helmet you have going on there, it's really simple at the moment but I like the shape. The rest is just the eyes on 2 sections that were bothering me and maybe the bottom right one because it's a picture it has some perspective distortion due to how you took it? I tried to fix it a bit with liquify on PS and painted over the eyes for focusing the stare convergence forward.

>>3657278 I think you sketch looks cooler because of all the dynamism you had with your lines, even on the background is adding to the motion towards the character path trail. But then on the linework you lost it, became static, no more explosions or overlapping buildings crumbling near the arm or the background shapes following the walking path.

>>3657452
I don't mind the desaturated colors or face as much as the hand, it looks tiny, at least from index to small fingers and maybe the heel side of the palm too (small finger side).

>>3657472 I love that reaction image, ha ha.
>>3657497 Going too soft now, with it, needs more shadow area shapes to brake it up.

>>3657517
yeah, probably tried too many things at the same time. Adding some hairstrands did make it a bit better tho imo. But I think I''ll just start again, maybe a different thing, I feel bad posting the same thing so many times. Thanks though.

>>3657472
sorry, its a wip critic

>>3657497
Hi, the guy who painted over your drawing here.
Seem like you still having trouble so i made a simple tut on how i usually do hairs.
The idea is build a base first -> add tone and gradient using underpaint brush -> Add shadow with watercolor -> Clean edges and everything with Brush. I sometime use hard eraser to do the outer edge but most of the time i just use hard brush with bg color to do it.
You can switch between watercolor and brush depend on how blurry or hard you want the part look.
You seem to have a hard time differentiate shadow and light, just use refs to help you and over time you can do it without refs.
And also don't mind the shitty wip below.

>>3657538
Thanks anon, really appreciate this. Already had a feeling you were using sai, it has a slight different look/feel to it, so sadly I can only "translate" your tut to photoshop. But that's ok, I wouldn't want to do something precisely in a similar fashion either way, and instead develop something of my own. Like the colors on your wip btw.

>>3657516
Thanks for the advice anon! Regarding the portion at the bottom of the right butt (our point of view) was that line supposed to be removed?

>>3657564
Yeah, kinda. Trying denote the leg and gluts.

>>3656888>>3656894
I dunno how I skipped over this one anon. But I really like it! You got the gesture pretty well!
There's a bit of misalignment with the armor but nothing major.
I dunno about style, but the more you know the more you will change so just do what you can at each stage, don't worry that much, nothing is set in stone.

>>3653689
Lookin' good, never seen Comomo drawn like that. Can't wait for the finished version!

Re-lined and re-did it from the sketch and stuck strictly to it this time, I have to say I'm a lot more content with how this one turned out.

>>3656323
The angry expression looks retarded. The other two are good.

>>3657169
Thanks man, I didn't even realize that the wind was only blowing her hair.

>>3657575
Thanks, I wasn't intending to push that further, but the reception I've gotten from where I've posted this, has me thinking I should clean it up and push it further some.
As far as the style, I'm a big fan of harsh angular linework, but looking at this I think if I just inked this, I could probably push that to where I'd want it to be. I'd just have to, as you pointed out, fix up the misalignment.

Sorry if I'm coming across as remorse to actually push a drawing beyond the sketch phase. My project winds up outright needing the time and energy I'd spend doing that, instead, most days. (Though that'll change very shortly, at which point I may be cranking more stuff like that, out.)

Changed some things, added softer blue light (moonlight) and reduced the opacity of the background over some gray to pull some of that saturation out of it. Changed the local value of the dress to it isn't so garish and not similar to the pumpkins.

wip :)

(behind the seeing glass)

Humbly requesting feedback on colors.

>>3658343
her red and blue shoes take way too much focus from everything else, as they are more saturated than the rest. Also, the platform should have the yellowish tones in highlights the figures have

>>3658238

>>3658360
I wouldn't trust such a thin column to support an entire corner of a building.

>>3658356
Noted, thx. Why should the platform have yellow, though? Its natural color is blue rather than the tone of the skin.

>>3658498
that yellow doesn't look like it's their skin, it looks like there's yellow lights on their side

>>3658232
Making the darks lighter was really good. I think you can afford to keep the lights/highlights bright and saturated, just for nice contrast but this is good already.
Those finger extension things are spooky and unsettling, can't tell if they're artificial or natural.

>>3658232
Color combos still look off. Like the upper part is part of a different drawing from the bottom. I'm no good with color vocab so this is the best I can do.

>>3658441
it's a shitty building dw

>>3658809
>>3658809
>>3658809

>>3656300
why her fingies purple

>>3659329
new thread