/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3628109

>>3628139
>sycra in the trash
fucking kek

>>3628109
Not really like a 'funny' thing, but I was really impressed with how the last collab thread turned out. Usually they're a complete mess

>>3628112
Is this real?

>>3628165
That's what it ended at? When I saw it she was a jihab woman carrying a baby and fleeing from a haunted forest, with some guy getting left behind and dying

>>3628165
yikes

>>3628139
every month I browse this board, this is becoming more and more true. Fuck

>>3628203
Is this meant to say crabs nitpick or shitty ic artists mindlessly photocopy/paint over? Both?

>>3628192
Indeed, I even have a Ruan Jia painting on my wall kek

>>3628228
pic pls

>>3628230
supreme gentleman

>>3628229

>>3628236
good taste

>>3628209
yeah probably both.

it's mostly to point out how dumb and nitpicky this board is, but as a side effect, we also get to witness a shitty photocopy artist.

>>3628132
Sandwich guy is based

>>3628139
It always creeps me out seeing how much this looks like my room, down to the same color window blocker. Only difference is no sheet on mattress which is stained to brown and my tablet and laptop are on the table near the foot of the bed. Also it’s Gurney books instead of Loomis.

>>3628169
Yes. A weeb ordered a Cattleya figure from Queen's Blade, her grandpa thought it would be funny to pose with it.

>>3628156
Why do we hate him again?

>>3628161
for some reason this one always gets me

>>3628205
? is this to imply the bear got his ass beat by the guy taking the photo? and if it does...

i still dont understand.

like a muh fedora thing?

>>3628543
Hello newfriend

>>3628656
is like the bear is the fedora artist and hes trying to white knight and his delusions of grandeur get his ass kicked? basically, right?

im just missing the funny part

>>3628230
Someone post fixed ver pls

>>3628140

>>3628722
At least compare it with the final

>>3628722
firez is humble and nice so i still prefer him

>>3628123
You know, I don't usually think about reddit but it occurs to me that an interaction like this is impossible on that site. A user can't really address a whole group of people, especially in a sort of chronological way. 4chan allows you to address nobody and anybody with a post, I guess that's part of why it's so enjoyable

>>3628762
that is so bad

>>3628722
kyle > firez
anyday
one knows how to actually paint while the other one paints like a buffoon

>>3628663
Look up Andrew Dobson and his cringy shenanigans
He's essentially the art version of DSP or Chris Chan if you ever heard of them

>>3628787
If you have to explain a joke by that time it's not going to cause any form of a guffaw from the receiving party.

>>3628771
Never thought about this, that's pretty interesting

>>3628775
Post your work

STOP BULLYING FIREZ

>>3628766
are you confused with another person

>>3628722
/ic newfags here
who are Firez and Kyle
and why ic is upset with them

>>3628808

>>3628819
here's an updated version to be fair :^)

>>3628818
firez spends tens of hours polishing turds. he probably draws more than most of this board and yet still hasn't improved

kyle draws aesthetic lewds

both of them are footfags

>>3628818
Firez is basically david, Kyle is the final goliath boss and /ic/ is the pillar of salt when they turn to look back at Firez's progress.

>>3628824
Didn't he spend 60 fucking hours on his Samus piece alone?

>>3628822
FiRez pls go

>>3628822
FiRez pls go

>>3628822
>>3628819
FiRez pls go!

>>3628722
Fuck off kyle

>>3628822
>>3628819
FiRez pls go

Although he’s improved a lot more than the crabs that spout sameface prob have

>>3628787
>Andrew Dobson
ok this makes much more sense now and DOES make it funny

>>3628787
He is the artist version of Jeb Bush

You feel pitty about how funny is to bully him

>>3628236
Make sure to pray to it every night or else bad rendering and scratchy lines will come to you

>>3628824
>>3628826
Anyone got a link to Kyle's art?

>>3628900
We know it's you, Kyle.

>>3628904
no

>>3628762
>leaf brush

>>3628136
This would look good redrawn and repainted.

>>3628722
This is the first time I’ve seen a comparison with Firez and Kyle. It’s crazy to see the difference between the two.

>>3628819
>>3628822
FiRez pls go

>>3628129
I fucking hate tehis who posted it?

>>3628922
Are you fucking stupid? the comparison is in bad faith.

Incomplete firez vs complete Kyle

>>3628922
Firez one is nowhere near final

>>3629025
it still looks bad firez and the tits look like a botched boob job

>>3629038
Post.your.work

also I'm not firez

>>3629042
firez pls go

>>3628730
Context on this one?

>>3629038
salty crab

>>3628822
FiRez pls go

i like firez, he actually draws, and practices fundies.

>>3628112
Blessed image

>>3628722
>cute faces
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

>>3628722
Kyle has nice rendering for sure, but her tit looks utterly fucked up.

>>3628819
>>3628822
FiRez pls go

>>3628762
generally a bad idea to use different brush for outline and rendering
it would look better without thin outline

>>3628722
right feels more coherent because rendering is just cel-shading (fits with the outline) with smoothness where applicable.

that boob however is gnarly

>>3628722
the one on the right is beg tier tho, anyone could achieve it. The one on the left has some charm to it, even as a doodle

>>3629460
ok, you're either trolling or so incompetent that you can't tell the difference in skill

>>3628824
>>3628826
where can I see Kyle art
his name is rather hard to google

Serious question: Why does everyone hate Firez so much? His stuff isn't perfect, or even my cup of tea but its better than 90% of the stuff posted to /ic/. Is this just a case of crabs being crabs or what?

>>3629499
it's his personality.
he spams threads with his WIPs after every little update, imagine 40+ posts with the same thumbnail

>>3629499
forgot to mention, he also doesn't take advice
very stubborn

>>3629506
Most people here aren’t qualified to give advice

>>3629503
>>3629506
Okay so just as that anon suspected: self-important crab retards

>>3629499
>Why does everyone hate Firez so much?
see
>>3628826
and I quote "pillar of salt"

>>3629506
>Firez posts WIP
>Give feedback
>Firez doesn't give back a (you)
>REEEEEEEE FIREZ HAS A SHIT PERSONALITY HE DOESN'T NOTICE ME AND TAKE MY ADVICE FUCK FIREZ N SHIET.

>>3629554
what kind of backwards thinking is that?
taking advice doesn't mean replying back
it means applying it to you WIP and future works

>>3629538
how are we self important if when we try to help the guy out, multiple times, he ignores it?
and spams threads? no self-conscious artist here does that, because it's arrogant to take up so much image limit and scroll space

>>3629565
i was on discord and he was being facetious with that comment.

He is incredibly good sport about any critique and his portfolio is better than /ic/ average by far.

Salty crabs like you will try to paint him otherwise (Ex: comparing his wips vs others final pieces)

Get fucked anon

>>3629565
>"it means applying it to you WIP and future works"
Are you implying that you should always have to incorporate ALL of /ic/'s feedback into your future work? That's outstandingly stupid, and delusionally generous in regards to how useful the critique of this board is.

>>3629598
it is if several different people express the same opinion

>>3629586
>talking to firez on discord
no wonder you're biased toward your buddy

>>3629586
>his portfolio is better than /ic/ average by far.
>average
thats not a compliment lol

>>3629586
i should also mention that the biggest reason people come to /ic/ is for genuine critique that anonymity offers. once you introduce things like discord etc, it strips away ojectivity and turns it into a butt-buddy fest because no one wants to offend each over or be ostracized.

>>3629613
While you're right about the whole butt buddy circle jerk that goes on away from here, the fact remains that most of you faggots are butt devastated by Firez from the simple fact that he has not given up and is starting to become successful. He's everything you wanted to be and that is why you are filled with envy.

Anyone remember when Firez first started to draw and render that one image of Rin and kept posting wip after wip? It wasn't because he kept "spamming" most of us welcomed it and relayed him information but it wasn't until after he started to get attention from the normies that ensued the backlash that's been following him here and on top of that there's at least one or two dedicated autists who scour for him here at the opportunity to either defame or have pop shots at Firez very much like what we had with Teal.

The salt is real and the saga from the eternal faggot with the unfathomable amount of butthurt continues.

>>3629631
>most of us welcomed it
i sure as hell didn't
who the hell loves spam?

>he started to get attention from the normies
i honestly had no idea, because i don't follow social media
not that it matters anyway
i personally don't pursue art as a career so i have nothing to be jealous of
but i also know for a fact that i'm not the only one who're annoyed by firez, because his attitude, his name, and his art are all cringe.

>>3629631
he makes the same mistakes from when he started, if he's spamming this board why wouldn't he at least listen to people? Maybe that's why he's hated.

>>3628543
Dobson likes to portray himself as the pinnacle of moral righteousness with everyone agreeing with him despite him being a narcissistic simpleton who is almost everything you should never be as an artist.

>>3629647
>i honestly had no idea, because i don't follow social media
You should of seen how they started to suck his dick and it obviously didn't fare well with you guys kek.
>>3629653
>he makes the same mistakes from when he started, if he's spamming this board why wouldn't he at least listen to people?
If he truly did not listen he would be instead in his own sphere of influence outside of /ic/ getting anesthetized with asspats and the hugbox environment but he is not and it shows because he has improved regardless of what you believe.

Now if you want to talk about artists who've truly stagnated, Yev and that one slav that calls himself pops is a prime example but Firez at least shows an effort to push through the plateau.

pic related was the flavor of the month on /ic/ until we started realizing he kept pulling a kr0npr1nz and draw the same face, same 3/4 view, same bust shots over and over again.

>>3629688
Firez is hated because he doesn’t listen to critique and he thinks he’s a superior artist when in fact he has plenty to learn. He shields himself behind commissioners in order to circumvent criticism. He isn’t hated for his success with normies (did he even have any success aside from posting on reddit?) he’s hated for his inability to absorb anything that threatens his comfort zone. He thinks it’s trolling when people offer critique. I’ve personally talked to him outside of ic and he’s overall insufferable as an artist unless you eat his ass.
I’m of the opinion people should stop bothering with critique and shit talking because if he continues to stagnate it’s simply less competition in the long run

>>3629701
Okay, so he annoys you and does not listen to your feedback and is overall insufferable to you. All of that sounded like a personal problem you have with him, now we don't know what he did to cause so much butthurt but lets just keep one thing clear, comparing his work from a couple years ago and now you could definitely say that he has indeed improved without any bias or personal interference because he brushed you off the wrong way.

So what if he has a bad attitude, I'm talking about his overall work and how it attributes to shitstorms like this because of the butthurt it ensues. Success breeds jealousy and I will be the first to admit that I am jealous of others such as Kr0npr1nz because of the gimmicks kr0n pulls that makes him successful.

>>3628112
Feel the form

>>3629730
has he improved? I honestly cannot tell. His colors look better but it takes him weeks (not exaggerrating) to color and noodle one piece until it looks right. I'm not sure thats improvement, to me at least it's not.

>>3628230
O fuck I remember this

>>3629701
Get bent jelly crab

>>3629701
Lmao he has nothing to learn from this mentally ill idiot. Post your work.

is kyle hated too? or just a meme

stop arguing about meme artists already

>>3629961
Can we start on Yev now?

>>3628236
lmfao

>>3629586
>comparing his wips vs others final pieces
i could replace the wip with the final in >>3628722
and everything written would remain true

>>3630106
no shut up

>>3628762
>covers the poorly drawn right hand with a bird
i dont know whether to laugh or be impressed

>>3629506
really just this. if you frequently post your art on a CRITIQUE board, but ignore any and all advice given- people may start to develop a distaste for your presence.

at that point, you should really be posting to >>>/i/ instead

>>3630140
The comment is bs. You have to be new to fall for that

>>3630163
is english not your first language

>>3630140
Try not to give /beg/-tier advice and people might start showing you more appreciation, Kruger-chan.

>>3630188
you dont know what my advice has been
reddit pls

>https://boards.fireden.net/ic/search/image/UFKk87aVB9yrgtwb_qje0g/
>Kyle and his discord samefagging thread

Is' this safe??

>>3628722
i like the different pigments in the skin on the left, the right is too red and she looks sunburnt or some shit

combine the two of these and swap out the face for a whole new face because they are both fuckin ugly honestly

>>3629499
i don't get it either when I first went here but it gets obnoxious as time passes, you'll eventually notice his annoying quirks

>>3629631
>you faggots are butt devastated by Firez from the simple fact that he has not given up and is starting to become successful.
No His personality is just plain shitty. That's just it. I wouldn't crab other anons like Naf and that other blizzard guy i forgot. I consider them as inspirations unlike firez.

I'd also like to add that Firez once said that he's on 3rd world country and you guys being a 1st worlder wouldn't understand. Being a 3rd worlder myself, I wouldn't pull a race card to justify my shitty sameface paintings

>>3628123
sometimes I wish I had the money for art school so I could live comfortably while stressing about financial security, instead of being a welder who has financial stability but cannot live comfortably due to stresses of the job. Then these people come out of the woodwork and all my "what ifs" go away.

>>3629688
>but Firez at least shows an effort to push through the plateau.

so you admit he's stagnated for what? 2 years?

>>3630361
If you look at his artstation, it's obvious that Firez has no imagination. He just another porn artist and I'm not jealous/intimidated by his ability to render women at all. You should be striving to make the next One Piece or to become a Feng Zhu level concept artist, not a half-baked porn artist that can't draw anything but pin-ups.

>>3628819
>>3628822
>FiRez pls go!

>>3628132
The lenghts these people will go to defend this shit.
>>3628819
>>3628822
FiRez pls go

>>3628819
>>3628822
FiRez pls go

>>3628109

Is hardstone flintcock and FireZ the same person?

>>3630655
kek what is this ?

>>3628819
oh god what's wrong with her face

>>3630667
lol no hardstone is p chill but I mistake him with mansized meatballs another artist

>>3628399
>vilppu's grandson is a weeb
heh

>>3628819
>>3628822

FiRez pls go

>>3630757
*granddaughter

What's a crab? I've been lurking for days and I still can't figure it out. Is it just /ic/ slang for a shit artist?

>>3630861
its someone that snaps at other people

>>3630861
look up crab mentality

>>3630861
It's referring to a crab bucket.

In a bucket of crabs, the crabs are all climbing to get out. They do this pushing other crabs down in an attempt to rise to the top, but in doing so, they get nowhere themselves because all the other crabs are doing the same thing.

>>3630874
The whole point of crab mentality is the crabs ensuring the demise of the collective by pulling each other back down, in other words if I can't make it no one else can.

>>3630875
Living in a necessity economy crab logic is sane. Art becoming a commodity would mean price per hour would sink.

>>3630864
i like this ironically

>>3629701
He is successful, so why the fuck he would take criticism from a dipshit from ic/

>>3631793
shoo shoo firez

>>3631793
i know you might be acting like a dumb fuck to bait, but success is not everything.

>>3628112
What the fuck, Glenn?

>>3628819
FiRez pls go

>>3631812
Concern troll

>>3630962
I kek every time.

>>3628819
FiRez pls go!

>>3628822
FiRez pls go!

>>3630259
You're probably looking it on mobile, which tends to make image more saturated

>>3628139
So true

>>3630861
Remember if you decide to be a crab in the future, at least be a cute one.

>>3628819
>>3628822
FiRez pls go

>>3628112
Holy shit his hands are huge

>>3628109
>>3632156

>>3628819
>>3628822
FiRez pls go

>>3628822
FiRez pls go

>>3628822
>>3628819
FiRez pls go !!!

>dude FiRez lmao

>>3635450

>>3628819
Firez pls go

>>3628822
Firez pls go.

>>3636535
fuck

>>3633892
>>3635509
>>3635538
>>3636337
>>3636751
>>3636752
When did this become a dedicated Firez thread?

>>3628819
>>3628822
FiRez Pls go

>>3628814
Is that what he looks like? He looks dead inside, just like the characters he draws.

>>3628230
oh fuck this thread was depressing

>>3628762
jesus christ, what is wrong with this guy

>>3636911
>Is that what he looks like?
No. That's the original "i showed you my dick answer me" meme.

>>3636535

>>3628822
firez pls GO