/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

looking for critique on composition or otherwise

>>3616937
It's all going do depend on the value, but looks good so far.

Speaking of value, I just put 45 minutes into this. It's just going to be a 3-4 hour value study, but if it goes well maybe I'll try to do a full 20-30 hour rendering. Never done one in oil, still learning what to use different bristles for

Concentrating on forms.

>>3616967
If you made just this into a full size piece i would buy it

>>3616968
Thank you, it's just a ref though

>>3616973
I liked the foothead and the goofy lil face

Guy from last thread who was trying out CSP.
It's cool. And the fact that you can get it for $25 is crazy.

>>3617500
maybe flip the image, the orc feels gliding of the bird. the right foot is positioned the same as the foot to the left but the bottom part is not seen on the right one - perspective mistake. overall pretty good i like it

My values are really muddy but I’m not sure how to fix it. Is the face alright atleast?

I fucked up so much but I don't want to abandon him. Help bros

>>3617640
aw i like him

>>3617640
Pls finish him I love him

>>3617649
>>3617651
Thank you, but the perspective. it's too fucked. at least I think its the perspective. Something looks really off about him

but I love him too much to leave him

>>3617681
Finish it anyways and then keep it as a reminder to not fuck your perspective next time.

>>3617658
arm, shoulder, neck..hell, entire anatomy of dude on the right is fucked

>>3617697
Are you sure? I think it's ok. Maybe i should tone down the curves, but i think it's ok

>>3617689
Wouldn't that be polishing a turd?

>>3617712
look at the size of the shoulder. the length of the arm. the way the trap goes into that shoulder. whole thing is fucked. but whatever. keep thinking it's fine.

>>3617640
His left thigh seems a little short if you’re going for a wide spread then maybe put left arm in front of the left thigh. Hiding left upper arm seems off too.

Best/10

>>3617755
good tips. I'm editing him now. Now that I think of it, the more and more I look, Ian just change some things, put him in 1 point perspective and then perspective won't be too big of an issue. this fucker is gonna take a while to do, though

>>3617697
>>3617689
It’s the asymmetric pose, his left traps lats and spine should reflect the tilt more. It makes him look built on the left and atrophied on the right.

>>3617897
Oops, (You)’d the wrong post
>>3617658

>>3617897

Thanks for the tips.
I can see how the muscles on the right are more defined and that can lead to some awkwardness. Like I said to the other anon, maybe making them less define could make the pose look less awkward.
I do believe however the way I drew the muscles, how they are connected, how the deltoid that comes from the spatula and twists around the bicep. I think i kinda nailed that.
I may be failing at drawing the forms, but i think i'm doing the connections and detecting the forms right.

But yes, i need to fix the left part of this back more, or make the right side less defined.
Again, thanks for the help

>>3616937
would benefit from a dutch angle, also frame it around Caesar, cut around the first figure's knees for a more interesting composition.

>>3617983
Lol bad advice

Who drew the op? Do they have a site. Really well done.

>>3617983
that would definitely NOT benefit from a dutch angle. avoid cropping at the joints.

I drew that McD chick from The Fifth Element

>>3617983
did a 12 year old draw this

end of this sketchbook onto the next

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>>3618200
>>3618239
saved

>>3618239
thanks man, question to you and anyone else here; what are some good tutorials for learning CSP? I've used PS for a long time wanting to try CSP out and just want to know the nuances of the app. Thanks

>>3618448
that's awesome took me this long to figure it out :|

>>3618453
>>3618200
Easily fixed though just give her more of a jaw

wot u fink

>>3618470
Cutesexyrobutts is regressing

>>3618472
kinda wish i was at current level cutesexyrobutts desu.

crap study thing sorta

>>3618568
>tfw no /fit/ n-word gf with white or asian facial aesthetics

JUST

>>3616922
>give constructive critique to others!
using this as my base to give an opinion that nobody asked for

is this referenced? I know it's obv Dragon Ball but the hand looks like it's forward facing. Also the far eye on Gogeta looks a little wonky. Or maybe it's the shape of the face or nose? Something just seems off. Also Gogeta's belt ties in the front on the right side. Maybe add some lines for back muscles next time as well. One last thing, I don't think you should see as much hair on the far side of Gogeta's face. Overall I like it though. Good coloring on the skin, especially Vegeta. If I saw this as a print at a convention I'd buy one if it were under $20 and 100% finished. Color them clothes and a background my dude.

ah yeee

I've been drawing since 2015 and I feel quite good about it, but only on paper. I've never tried on drawing tablets and I'm wondering if I should buy one. Would it be too hard to adapt or should I just yolo and give it a try?

>>3617640
he is friend shaped

Need Advices.

>>3616967

>>3618951
I mean what do you have to lose? The go-to cheap Wacom tablets are only like $100. Sketchbook Pro is free, Krita is free, Gimp, SAI, Firealpaca, lots of free stuff. Or you can pirate 'Shop or wait for CSP to go on sale (which it does very often). If you already have an iPad get Sketchbook. Then you can just take pics of your pencil drawings and color them instantly so no need for scanner.

I hate my art style

>>3619190
Me too. Go to /sticky/ and /beg/ until you get a new one.

What's wrong with my fucking drawing.

>>3619237
poor gesture no anatomy bad proportions and chickenscratching. Plus you wimped out on the hands.

Go do some bargue plates (do a few hours every day and keep going until you finish one) and do gesture drawing every day. Study proportions, learn visual measuring, practice drawing forms.

You're /beg/ tier my man but that's ok you just need to work at it.

rate pls

>>3619257

Thank's bro.

>>3619237
Eyes are too big for the face, shoulders are lopsided (maybe that’s the pose but something feels off about them), and neck seems a bit too thick

Keep it up though!

Struggling with the background colors

>>3619330
Desaturate and lower contrast then make window and fire clear light sources. Dress and hat are same value range as rear wall.

Made this a few days ago when I was bored

>>3619078
photo study.

I’m a beginner artist. Made this a few days ago when I was bored.

>>3619338
Thank you so much, will try that and look at it in a grayscale

>>3617517
Great subtle color palette

>>3617522
color balance tool.

>>3617640
Block that mf in, looking good

>>3618459
>>3618457
You are my favorite artist on ic rn

>>3617658
Something about that shoulder-arm is not as perfect as the rest of it.

>>3617880
How was arts and crafts time?

talm bout, fuckin. critEEKS, and ahit

Study from this morning. Nothing crazy. Just testing out some new brushes and shit. I'm not crazy about that fake canvas stuff you see around the hair. I don't think I know how one should actually utilize that shit...

A further WIP. Gotta work on the trash surrounding him. Thoughts?

>>3619816
Values got destroyed for some reason. Working that out right now. It looks super gross

>>3619817
maybe this?

>>3619816
Yay you didn't abandon him I love him more than ever

>>3619819
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>>3619816
direct light from the pov would make for broader value range on the main figure which should make it pop more, and I think you mentioned secondary/rim light in your linework drawing which will elevate everything. If the POV lighting is harsh enough you might have some hard edges in your form shadows as well.

>>3619078
That girl on the bottom right has a really cute face. Can you post a full-size image of just her face so I can study your drawing?

>>3619958
I took note of that moving forward, but I decided to get rid of the secondary light source. I thought it would distract from the theme and remove depth. I just wanted it to seem like you stumbled upon this fucker in the pitch black

Fingers crossed that this image isn't blown out because its like 3 in the morning and I still have to get up early so I'm uploading this and ditching for tonight lol

>>3619821
thank you, I hope you just keep liking him more and more!

>>3620072
Assuming you're trying to replicate a spotlight look, have a look at Oleg Vdovenko on Artstation for inspiration.

>>3620072
I would try something like this

Critique me please my brothers.

>>3620096
oof. This is going to take a while give me a minute here bud

I have a question for drawfags, how much do you spend practcing daily? Also, digital or traditional, which is better for a newcomer?

>>3620096
leg proportions are wacky, she has the legs of a 10 year old while the upper body is a fucking fridge
Right leg also morphs through the seat with the thigh shrunken like a dry fruit
Head is at least twice too big, same with the neck
Otherwise the image shows promise
thinner upper body, from that perspective, you wouldn't be able to see the stomach, maybe a little bit of breast, thin out he neck, make the head smaller, back of the skull is not visible as it molds to the back of the neck, fix that
make the ass bigger vertically, make legs at least 2,5 times thicker than what they are right now, just simple size edit would work, make the thighs have more roundness instead of being straight sticks
don't bother adding shadows when your lines aren't perfected

>>3620096
Looks good, like some french stuff that was made 60 years ago, I just found her torso too thick in comparison to her limbs.

>>3620119
>>3620120

Thank's for yours answers guys.

>>3620123
btw, I'm the dude from below, is that thing on the back of her head suposed to be an ear or her hair in a bundle?

>>3620126

hair bun.

>>3620118
If you want to get good, draw every day anything from 2 hours to 8 hours if you have the time.

If you're starting just now, don't bother with traditional. Digital offers more tools at less hassle and is cheaper in the long run and is also noob friendly.
Buy Huion H610 Pro for 50-80 bucks. It's a drawing tablet that is of superb quality even when it's so damn cheap. I've owned one for few years now and it shows zero signs of wear.
It comes with a glove and 4 interchangeable tips if they start going full after use but after my few years of use, the tip hasn't lost any of its sharpness.
Just download drives from their website and you're good to go. The pen has some technology in it so it needs charging but with 2 hours of charging you can use it for over a month nonstop.

Also watch a lot of professionals drawing and possibly find yourself some artists that you can look up to. I improved my drawing by simply watching awesome pictures of my favourite comic book artists.
Apply some of the stuff they do to your own drawings, possibly even copy their style. It's impossible to learn drawing if you try to invent things out of the blue. Innovation comes from copying something and making it better, in art, give things your own twist and thus develop your own style.
Draw at least one finished picture / sketch per day and you'll be a pro in few years. Drawing is like any other talent, it takes TIME. If you don't commit, you'll never become good at it, same applies to everything you do in life. Repetition is the key. Keep doing it daily, even when you feel like you're not making any progress, you are. It's small baby steps all the way to the end.

Maybe start a blog where you upload daily images, this'll eventually get you recognition and motivation to keep drawing.

for the /tg/ draw thread

>>3620139
the lower body is a crapshoot, try to decide a better position and a pose for the legs, the swords' perspective is fucked up
the torso and head look bretty good

>>3620137
>8 hours
hmm, got the same answer on /v/, except it was 8-10, after watching lots of anime, I wanted to be good and see if I could be like that too. I tried the "draw at least one finished pic per day" method and it gave me some help, I just need to draw more and for longer, thanks for the help.

>>3620144
Long sessions are nice
Maybe register free 30 day trial on audible and listen to audio books while drawing, if you're capable of multitasking you can improve your drawing skills and knowledge at the same time.
And when the trial ends just make another account and abuse the shit out of the system.

>>3620146
To me I used to have a few short sessions, but I just gotta try harder. About listening to stuff, I think just listening to music on youtube is fine, not really a multitask guy.

>>3620151
Multitasking is for those who can do it. Music works too but it might numb you completely and put you on autopilot.
Listening to a podcast or something with people having intelligent conversation, that'll keep your senses sharp even while drawing. But if you can't then it's not to be forced upon you. Not sure if it's something you can teach yourself or is it genetical.

>>3620154
I really suck at multi, I can't even pay attention to a game or browse if I'm talking with someone,also its the autopilot a bad thing?

>>3620154
how do i register there they require credit card info

>>3620156
well it hinders improvement but it's nothing major, muscle memory helps during autopilot
>>3620161
There are fake credit card generators but I am not sure if you have to do a purchase of sorts to get the trial.
Just use real credit card, it's amazon's service so it's legit, but if there's some check in system with the card itself, I guess the trial it can't be abused.

>>3620169
I see, with how much time is given into practice, its amazing some artists manage to have a life, thank goodness I have social in the first place.

>>3618457
>>3618459
goddamn these are good

>>3619264
a tad bit more confidence in shadows/10

Tear me apart. I deserve it.

>>3620207
Better than mine, would upload if my connection was fine, I just think the dude looks like a fusion between Dexter's dad and Mandark, that being said, you gotta work harder on those backgrounds, the guy on the front is fine.

>>3620137
huion recently made a new version of the h610pro that doesn't need to charged

>>3620225
is it sold separately or is it sold as the exact same h610 pro but they give the newer version now? If it's separate, I understand the 30-50 price drop. I bought the tablet for 90 bucks on amazon, now its 50.

>>3620225
>>3620239
Ew don't get that chink shit it breaks after a few months at best. Just go find a refurbished or lightly used Wacom on the Internet for the same price

>>3620246
Wacom Intuos3 is still the best and it can be purchased for 15 dollars on eBay (pen not included)

>>3620246
I've used it for couple of years and as I said, there's ZERO wear on the tablet, also there's zero technical issues during before, during or after use
>waaaaah chinese
Even for just 50 bucks I can say it's better than bamboo or intuos, which i've both owned in the past but sold away after I got H610pro. By far the best budget tablet and I'll keep using it until I've saved enough for a Cintiq

>>3620207
Some more shit I'd like critiqued.

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>>3620285
The IT pieces are my least favorite I'd like to know where I went wrong on these the most.

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>>3620285
Sorry about pic quality ahead of time.

>>3619237
Is it a man with man boobs or a woman with a mans face?

>>3620277
Here's a larger size. Not sure what happened.

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>>3620139
I think the biggest problem is that the stance looks wimpy, I made a more powerful version for only to realize that with shoulder pads like that, she probably won't be able to stand like this. What you can do is to straighten the arms and make the hands look like they have a firmer grip, as right now it looks like she is about to drop her sabers.

>>3618637
Cute. Akko has short arms.

>>3620215
I fucking SUCK at backgrounds. I tend to stick to character design.

>>3620276
very stiff pose, design all over the place, lacks detail and depth, has cool elements but doesn't work together

>>3619984
sure anon. also tried fixing the perspective

>>3620371
What would you suggest I change, anon? Genuine inquiry. the pose is as it is because I was more focused on designing the outfit but if it doesn't work I'd like to know what about it makes it so.

>>3619441

i fixed the shoulder... i think. It was too asymmetric and spatula was in a strange position. Hope it's better now.

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>>3620448

/beg/ >>3619680
And stop posting two month old art. Post something you did in the past week.

>>3620462
I literally drew that dick bandit 15 minutes ago as a jest to the /beg/ newfriend

Did a study of Artifacts card game art , the original art is called Grazing Shot by Kieran Yanner , the guy has insane edge control

>>3620466
Good job copying his style

>>3620482
that was the intention

>>3620482
i kno that's why im praising you

>>3620499
meant for
>>3620485

>>3620469

That's some really nice stroke economy! I don't think you should necessarily take this any further if you feel like you've captured the originals aesthetic (which I think you have). I think you could lose a little bit of the "tightness" and hard edges on those elbow spikes and claws as there was clearly an implied radial motion blur here but otherwise I think you did a really good job.

You gonna paint the chick too? Anyways, you should definitely try to paint something 'similar' with your own design right after doing this so you really retain what you've studied.

>>3620510
this one is done no more touchups and im not gonna paint her , wanted mainly to study the way he did the skin of the "fleshy" monster , and i definetly agree with painting something similar of my own, thats the plan

>>3620517

Good to hear. I have a hard time telling myself when I've retained enough information from a study. Sometimes you just get too into it and realize that you've been copying shit like a robot for many hours when you should have jumped into your own work.

>>3620396
Something still seems a bit off with the left shoulder try and redline his other arm to see if it makes sense

>>3620143
>>3620348
Thanks!

>>3618574
what? im asking for opinions lol
no its not referenced.
>hand looks like it's forward facing.

yea youre right if I need a reference for anything its correct human poses atleast

> Also the far eye on Gogeta looks a little wonky
the small on to the left? I could try not drawing so small for a change lol.

>Also Gogeta's belt ties in the front on the right side.
now that I think about it, from behind you shouldn't even be able to see the knot
> Maybe add some lines for back muscles next time as well
like on the neck? or add some more definition in his vest on the back ?
>I don't think you should see as much hair on the far side of Gogeta's face.

his hair did seem a little too big.


sheeit, heres the finished one atleast and thank you for the notes. I don't want to recreat the exact same drawing but ill change the design with the correct anatomical positioning based on some reference.

>>3620072
Hope you work the forms more so it doesn’t look like a 2d puppet

>>3618637
now draw them naked and having gay sex

>>3620469
What did you learn about edge control? It’s something I’m currently struggling with and hope you can give some insight.

painted this

>>3620898
>being friends with a Jewess

Betacucksoiboi detected

>>3620820
I cant describe it in theory , its more like something you get the "feel" for , but I specifically used that card as a study cuz I liked the way he did it in that illustration ( he has a few styles in his artwork ) , download some of his art and try doing studies , maybe at first your studies turn out overly soft and muddied but as you go youll start getting closer and closer , if it helps i used rectangle brush for this one as i didnt get similar result to his with round brush ( i still filled in the forms with round brush first as im so used to it) , if you want to focus on edge control try doing focused studies with simple brushes that have no texture , one round one rectangular and one triangular

>>3620811
>i'm asking for opinions lol
you didn't say that in your original post so I wanted to cover my ass.

About the back muscles, I meant in the space between the jacket and the belt. I feel like there should be a line to represent the spine or something. Maybe on his neck too but definitely on his back. The belt tassels (ribbons?) or whatever they're called are fine, you just shouldn't be able to see the knot at all, like you said.

This is a little nitpicky, but the tall part of Goku's hair always points in the same direction as his face. But I see that if you had done it that way, the blacks wouldn't have met up as nicely.

>>3620462
Don't tell me how to live.

>>3620448
I actually like it. Thanks, anon.

>>3620462
I haven't drawn anything I actually like in the last two months. I've been in a rut.

>>3621013
Get off here and just draw pussy faggot

>>3620903
why do people like you post here

>>3621042
I have been but I feel so uninspired that everything comes out half-assed and not up to my own standards. Was hoping some criticism could help me get back into the swing, show me where to go next, y'know?

Finally done.
I'll keep it simpler next time, is there anything fucked here?

>>3620898
and I started this painting

>>3621112
there's always things to nitpick about
left thigh's way thinner than the right, the gap in the crotch is too big, there probably shouldn't be any at all
the hands are fucked, palms are non-existent, there's just fingers there
right knee's and shin's perspective doesn't look as you intended it, now it just looks like the shin is shorter than the left one, the kneecap isn't sharp enough to make it look like she's bending her leg

Edge study.

>>3621231
More like edgy study amirite

>>3621231
looks like he's got the cloak hood on backwards

>>3621259
How so? I sincerely can't see it.

>>3621252
;^)

Flashpoint Wonder Woman: "Sketch" App

>>3621231
First, I'm neither of the guys who replied to you, and secondly, I'm not really one to be giving advice, but I kinda see what they mean in the whole "backward cloak" thing. Mostly it's just that you didn't break the middle of it so it looks like the back of a cape, but (and to a lesser degree) it's also the lightning on the side attributing a sort of sloping value to the cloak that implies the arm is facing forward, besides the lightning itself breaking just at the level of the elbow but in the opposite direction.

I hope it helped mate, and disregard my normie point of view if some knowledgeable fucks drops by.

Christopher Reeve's Kingdom Come

>>3621282
holy shit I know comics are turning all female characters into lesbians but that's just Nicholas fucking Cage.

>>3621288
I see...
Thanks a lot, I truly appreciate it.
Cheers!

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>>3621290
Oh fuck I can't unsee
>>3621289
He looks like a zombie, his skin needs a bit more tan.

finished it

>>3621370
She looks like a old from the thumbnail, but good pic.

>>3621376
old man*

>>3620072

Hey mang! I really dig where your thing was going but I thought you might need some help with some stuff so I did a little overpainting. I don't really know what your dude was supposed to be so I made him into some kind of naked rat-wolf-cat-man to illustrate my points... I'm only doing this because I think you have a lot of potential but you need to focus on some things so you can be a real nigga like Slim Shady and Solid Snake or something some day...

My biggest crits:

You're looking at everything like a 2D shape. You really need to get in there and start shading stuff like they were actual 3D forms. This might sound boring but I think you should study stuff like spheres, cylinders and boxes. You also need to have something come towards the viewer and I subtly tried to do that with the characters thigh and knee.

Other minor stuff:

I love your design and you clearly have a really good eye for composition and lighting but you have to study some more anatomy. When I did this overpainting I just took a photo of a lion and a photo of some shoulder muscles and I think it's instantly more coherent. Don't be afraid to play around with this shit especially if you're doing creatures. I made his hip bones and scapulae unrealistically pronounced because I think it makes him look even more spooky and fierce than he did.

Some other thoughts:

Don't EVER pose your characters with a 100% side view of their head unless it's an album cover, study, or someone specifically asks for it. It's a dead giveaway for any professional looking at your work. "Okay this dude/chick can't draw shapes in 3D space". This really ties in with the first thing I said but I can't emphasize this stuff enough!

Also don't ever start to imply textures before you have the base anatomy, coherent lighting and ambient occlusion (according to lighting) on your character.

>>3621384
you went from a creepy creature to "hey buddy"

terrible crit

>>3621386

I totally agree with you. I was mostly talking about art fundementals and anatomy. I actually complimented his original design, composition and idea. I hope I wasn't unclear about that stuff. I definitely didn't try to make a "final image". I hope the OP doesn't think that that was my intention either.

Fuck off...

a little help with my fucked anatomy?

>>3616801
Oh ssshhhit son, I haven't been to /ic/ in like a week and only now I find out my drawing is the Draw Thread thumbnail? Fucking awesome, feels good m8. Thank you for this little anonymous honor.

>>3621384
Going to take the bait and did some adjustment to the face to replicate the original design.

Been messing around with three pens in my lectures. Do I have any interesting ideas or is it just derivative poopoo?

>>3621441
You should stop doing it on your lectures, but about your art, I'd say its good, but try avoid tumblr nose and work more on the eyes, loved the gradient hair color.

>>3621435

Aww man that's so much better than what I did on my overpaint. Just gonna do a side question about overpaints in general and I'd like to hear what other people think about this stuff:

Like I said before I don't think that overpaints need to look like finalized versions of what you think the original artist should do to their images. Just illustrate the points you're talking about and get out. That's how I think of it. People need to figure shit out themselves.

I've seen this shit too much up here where somebody's talking about a specific problem with a piece without going into great detail with their fixes and some random asshole's like "Her eyes look weird nao :((" when the person doing the overpainting was talking about a completely separate subject like the composition or pose. Usually it's not even the original poster of an image who gets triggered but some random dickhead who doesn't have anything else to contribute to the conversation...

I'm not even talking about my overpainting/instructions in particular. Maybe it was really bad or maybe my points didn't come across clearly.

Anyways what do you guys think about this stuff?

>>3621465
You did a good job on the rendering part. Some artists learn from either paragraphs of text or by visual observance of touchups. Either way is enough for them to take note and do studies of various people, animals etc in different angles.

Not 100% sure if the original was intended for go with the pseudo cell-shading or attempting a painterly render look. And they didn't specify if they were open for design changes or to stick with their original concept. They may specify it once they think they have enough pointers to do what they want with their work.

1st Horseman

2nd Horseman

3rd horseman

dose ic consider the different form of grafitti art?
Pic is A hand style im working on.
I

so i have a lot of memorys of a woman threatening me and my cousing, even one telling my mom about this woman yet only me and my cousing remember this; our mothers just forgot? also we can´t tell who she was?? we cant remember the face just the threatening ...
heck i even remember she pinched us, it hurted a lot...

4th Horseman

>>3621492
it turned up side down also A char I mad for stickers

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>>3621495
You need to work on shadows, besides that, its fucking sick

>>3621180
I made the adductors small, since I would expect them to squashed in a pose like that, so would it be thigh fat that would make it bulge out and maybe one buttock would be visible from that angle?

>>3620139
Did another /tg/ request tonite, anatomy is kinda wonky tho.

>>3621112
Did you use reference for the figure? What's

Can I get some critique bout this piece?

Please rip into the composition and tell me if you think it's decent and worthy of being on the cover of a gamecase, or if it is pretty meh/shitty and painfully amateur. Brutal honestly please. I tried to make it close to a megaman style as I could.

How long would it have taken any of you to create this from scratch?

Any feedback at all of what you'd change, whether it's color, gimmicks, etc?

15m sketch

>>3621398
I'm still not good enough with anatomy so I thought maybe trying to do this as a exercise to see what I could pull from the top of my head.
A bit wonky but I hope it might help you out, I;m not sure about your image if the guy's feet are touching the floor or not, so I took some liberties. Maybe knowing which area are you having troubles with would help to think of something else.

Polished sketch before I commit to full on linework and rendering. Hand feels mediocre and the eyes are off perspective and/or proportion-wise. Eyes also don't have the hungry/femdom quality that I was originally going for. Any feedback is appreciated.

>>3621521

The paintjob on the armor seems to blend everything together and makes it are to discern what is what. The arms themselves almost get lost in there. Also like you said, anatomy is slightly off, breasts seem to be a little off perspective and the arms seem a little too thin. Otherwise feels fairly solid.

>>3621719
Also if anyone has a resources that I can look at for plotting out eyes (weeb or regular) perspective-wise I'd appreciate it.

Gonna throw up some studies I did from life drawings. Any feedback is appreciated

>>3620396
>>3620546

Shoulder is fined. The arm itself is too far inward, that's why the deltoid looks so big.

>>3621757

>>3621731
Place two spheres in perspective
Draw eyelids over them

whoa

The hardest part is perspective. You have to study it, anon.

>>3621757
Vilppu will set you on the right path

>>3621757
Whoops, wrong dude, thought it was the left one. Right dude seems great muscle-wise but the back seems to face the camera a little to much and doesn't quite match the perspective of the rest of the pose. Shoulder still seems fine.

>>3621761
Current figure drawing teacher is classically trained and is locally celebrity. I have faith he'll help me vilppu

New sketch

>>3621909
Also this one. I want to use it to test some new brushes

>>3621910
this is nothing you cant do with a standard brush and size jittering.

>>3621909
>>3621910
Always forgetting to resize >_<
>>3621915
It's just that i always go for the Shale Brush in Procreate, when it has so many more to offer

painted a guy at a cigar lounge

>>3619377

>>3621719
The breasts looks like they're sitting on different body with the perspective they're in, I could have accepted it as a contrapposto if the shoulders hadn't been completely neutral.
Your eyes look weird since they're not sitting in the sockets of the skull, but have been move up into the brow area.
To get the spikes to read more as 3 dimensional forms, you can think of the shell as half a sphere, draw the ellipse and use it to estimate the midpoint, from here you draw out lines to show the direct the spikes will point, and the rest depends on how well you understand the degree of ellipses in perspective.
Finding the spikes on the collars is the same as the shell, just with cylinders instead of spheres.

>>3621719
>>3622166
Example.

>>3621719
Thanks! I watched a wlop video after and I think I understand rendering armor a bit better now so hopefully I can improve on the next one

I fucking hate loomis for making me feel so bad at this..
:(

>>3621706
omg thank you!! i kinda have problem where the legs and waist put together? i never know how to put them in perspective... (your art is super great !!)

>>3621719
>>3621731
>>3622166
>>3622167
Thanks for the feedback. Did a sloppy do over using the techniques you did in the drawover. You get these from a particular book? Most of what I've learn figure-wise is from college figure drawing class and life drawing

>>3622279
comparison gif

>>3622271
Honestly not that bad, dude. Is asymmetric but that's something that get's better overtime the more you draw. If you want both sides to be perfect for where you're at just grab a ruler.

>>3616801

>>3622271
You didn't follow the proportions and ended up with a watermelon head.

>>3622271
>>3622331
Here I made your an easy to use grid, just print a bunch of them out and practice on those.

>>3622279
You're still pointing the tits too much toward the viewer, turning the front plane of the torso, thereby breaking her body
As for books, no none of this is from any particular book, it is just about learning perspective and then turning the body into simple forms.
Any figure drawing book will teach you about the simplifying the body, and they make it look dreadfully simple, but even so, it is one of the hardest things to actually do properly, which is why so many people just rush through the early stages of the drawing and ends up with a bunch of errors all over the place.

>>3621112
>>3621180
Okay, updated version.

>everybody wants to learn to draw anime for cute girls
>nobody wants to learn to draw anime for hulking masses of demon nobleman

>>3622279
>>3622355
Maybe I should have specified, the blur breast box I drew in the first image, was not meant to be follow, it was to show that the body you had drawn wasn't fitting into the form of the neck and shoulders.

>>3622435
8/10 pretty good work, make.
>Skeleton girl has her pelvis twisted relative to torso while the meat girl has her midle line straight and crotch alligned with ribcage.
You kinda lost that pelvic turn there.
>Oblique mucules look flat and meh
Aside from that that's a real solid work, I'm not there so high five yourself for me.

>>3622470
>>3622355
Figured that out.

Third try, did a combination of your block technique and my usual armature. Honestly feels like I gave her a push-up bra. That and made them too small.

Again, appreciate this. Hope I can get this down fairly soon.

>>3622494
Rather, when I compare the two. the closest breat doesn't match up just right. So closer, I guess, but not quite there.

>>3621384
Hey dude! thanks for all of the care you put into this! I kinda fell off the internet for a little so I had no clue you posted this. I hope you get to see it because I'd like to shoot a quick thank you! I really hope I can be some slim shady solid snake looking motherfucker someday, too.

First off, your criticisms are right on the nail. When I started this fella, it was a 2 point perspective sketch that I threw onto a background. It's somewhat visible in the og sketch here
>>3617640
That I was doing my best to think of his head in 3d space as being tilted up and away. But as I painted it, it was more or less painted out. the perspective for the head (and the entire body) wasn't as strong as I needed to push it in the first place so it's not too surprising that by the later part of rendering that the entire image was compressed to heck and the original issue I had (there is a lack of depth, the figure not being in perspective) is the killing blow.

Thank you for the compliments on the design! I think that's what made me want to stick this one through rather than throw him in the bin of other monsters I never render out. He looked too fun to stop working on, and perhaps the hardest part of painting it, for me, was cutting off his hand with the doorway. As for your notes on reference, I will definitely take that into account. I was originally trying to get him to read as more of a fucked up human, but even then I didn't find as much pose ref as I should have, not to mention that the skin texture needs to read "gross and mangey" but by the end, its far too blue to come across as that because of the lighting I chose

oh boy, and the lighting. I'm surprised you didn't touch on it. It's not anywhere near as dark as the image needs to be, especially if is solely being lit from the front. Yours and>>3620095
are way more accurate to what it should really be like.

1/2

>>3622494
Problem solved.

>>3622503
2/2

but I can't seem to have the heart to darken it as much as it should and get rid of the environment. Even at the cost of making the image weaker and the lighting unrealistic.

but all that aside: thank you to you and everyone that helped in this thread. I've been going here for a bit and this is one of the times where this place really shines through. All of you provide a community that I can't really get anywhere else and it does mean a lot to me

and one last thing. I think, all in all, that the most important thing I think, at least for me, is this anon's comment
>>3617689
He's right. I have so many wip's, sketches and shit I start but never finish. I rarely push my work past a certain point, and this one was a huge step out of my comfort zone. This painting was and is still super important. And while you are beyond right for saying not to imply textures until you have all your basics down, I had to push myself further just to see how much I don't know

Also, I really like this lad
>>3621435
more then the other you did a great job on his lil teeth

this is pretty much the last wip. If I continue it, I'll be ripping off his head and replacing it, tilting the environment to change the feeling of the scene, and all in all hacking apart what is usable from this lad. This was one hell of a ride non the less. thanks again

>>3622519
The process for this is really cool to watch btw. Can't wait to see the finished piece.

>>3622519
>say I want to keep the environment lit slightly because I like the walls and the hallway I put him in
>compression blows out values to hell and image is now much darker but looks closer to how it should probably be

well then, lol

>>3622507
nice

>>3622519
you haven't added the form shadows in properly so everything looks sadly flat

gay Quake strogg

>>3622539
that inking is 10/10

>>3622543
thanks! I want to sharpen the edges because it's done with a sharpie (round). Also add more shadows

>>3622519

>>3621631
really nice anon, the edges and lack of edges look great, although it seems like the initial rounded shoulders looked better than the darker corrected ones .

Let me show you where I've been.

>>3622618
Haven't you been working on this for like three months now?

>>3622619
I work on a lot of things all at once, so yes. Probably longer than three months.

I have what they "add" and I only work on things if I'm not sperging out working on a thousand other things.

>>3622618
Hey hope you don't mind I have some ideas for that piece I wanted to show you

did a study of a wolf for a few hours, any critique?

>>3622632
>perfectly good paining of an abstract landscape and a figure
>fuck it up by replacing the face with nothing and slicing up the entire body into nonsensical squares

Did some drawing in the park today

>>3622898
>>3622899

>>3622274
Hmm, maybe the issue isn't anatomy but a combination of perspective and anatomy, I guess I should tell you to first do a few weeks or months of perspective to start, get a book and do some exercises or try to copy the lessons, then go back to anatomy. Might help you out. (And thanks anon, I feel it's kind of shitty at the mo, hope I can find my footing at some point if I keep practicing.)

>>3622623
Looks fantastic, love the gesture and rendering. Hmm if anything I would point that the farthest clavicle kind of jumps out with that lighter shape you have used to indicate it, stands out a bit, and feels sort of not connecting with the pit of the neck, maybe having more blurry edges? I dunno, I'm not very good at painting forms yet.

>>3622653
Without the reference hard to tell, but I feel the values could use more contrast, I like it overall. I would love to see the eye in the original ref because I feel it's a bit flat right now, eyes stand out usually without all the subtle values.

Leaving some couple of weeks old studies, from quickposes mostly are I believe.

>>3621521
another request fill, trying to get quick speedpainty renders down.

guys something is off. Can`t understand what am I doing wrong, but others say its shit, plz help.

>>3623036
Lacking some contrast and looks slightly merc-wip tier in regards to your character design.

Give it me straight guys.. I'm gonna make it as an artist.. right?

>>3623036
colours were a bit drab and the left side of her lower half doesnt match the right, but the technique is more than adequate

>>3623123
the red arrow is the part that needed fixing, and the redline is the form you should have followed, im a little confused how you managed to paint the rest of it so well and then make the his the way you did

>>3623036
It's a bit muddy. Unless you're going for muted contrast, here's a tip. Just stand far back from your painting. If the colors don't pop from a distance, it may come off too flat. You didn't paint over grayscale did you?

>>3623123
>>3623124
>>3623137
Thank you very much. and nope I didnt do the grayscale
thanks

First time I tried actual painting instead of my regular mediocre line art.

I have no idea how to mix colors, I tried to look at a color and what I ended up mixing up was very different.

I do grayscale all the time and I've always been bad with colors so even if mixing wasn't a problem, I probably wouldn't know what colors I'd need.

Also, turns out using a paintbrush is hard. So hard to control and I have absolutely no idea how to do long thin lines. Brush hair sticking to paper is also annoying (probably shouldn't use the cheapest brushes?).

I'm really out of my element but it was quite fun, will probably try to learn more.

>>3623123
ew, I like the original better

painting a girl

>>3623321
finished it

>>3621918
Still working on this piece, probably gonna be adding more weird plants and mushrooms...

Can someone please give some tips on shading. I used contrast to bring out the character, but i feel like it's still missing something

>>3623525
fug i LOVE this color choice

>>3623492
this is probably ur best one in terms of the face but like the rest of it is very lame. u should really put more detail in the hands and the rest of the painting and more of a difference in colors where stuff is bending. her right arm is understandable but the left is just a mess

>>3623492
This is what happens when you start with a bad drawing. The good parts are totally overwhelmed by the bad.

>>3622472
Shit you right. How about this, or should it be exaggerated more?
Also realized that in the previous image i made her abs bump out at the navel, as if the muscle was sitting on top of the stomach fat.

>>3623035
Kinda hated this so tried to make it a bit more passable

>>3623528
>>3623525
samefag

Finally finished this. New job makes it hard to get much art done. In fact I have to be there in 3 hours...

>>3623525
I like this a lot. Reminds me of a lot of the animations I see on Vimeo.

Pretty happy with this one. Any critiques?

Pretty happy with this one. Any critiques?

>>3623746
really love this dude

>>3623804
Thank You very much.

>>3623762
looks like a 90s manga cover, its got a doll-like feel to it.

>>3623762
Eyes too close together

>>3623762

Eyes are too close together and it's too obvious that you mirrored stuff. The sparkles on her eyes are too symmetrical. The light source is far enough that those sparkles shouldn't be so close to the center of her face. it also looks weird that the shell she's sitting on is from a 100% top view and her body isn't. I'd also like to see some bounced light on the shell from the bg.

>>3623828
gotcha, thanks

>>3623824
nice man!

>>3623840
Yeah, I just kinda gave up on the perspective. I didn't know what to do with the posture. She's suppose to be sitting on like a stool or something. I see what you mean about the lights. Will fix those. Thanks!

>>3623642
It was bugging me out how you where showing the latimus dorsi above the triceps. It inserts below it on humerus, close to the head, below insertion point of teres major. I'm quoting this from Stephen Rogers Peck, Atlas of human anatomy. I also did a dirty drawing from the one shown in there for the insertions, color coded.

Second drawing I do only with vine charcoal, although the truth I liked more the simplicity of the first I did. Having the drawing in front you notice much less the texture of the paper, but equally what do you think?

What I can do to improve?

>>3623915
Not much i think, it's so simple yet nice
>>3623889
>dem details on the collar
Wow
>>3623762
I'm not sure what's her relationship with the space around her? She's floating? But kneeling? The pose is a bit confusing. It would be cool if the hue of her skin reflected the surrounding a bit more. Otherwise it's a cool take on this meme!
>>3623746
I love this!!! I really admire your attention to the detail. I guess it's more a matter of taste than a mistake but I would personally find the piece more appealing if you didn't draw that much detail in some places. For example you could leave the far-away buildings a bit out of focus. But that's just a suggestion, something for you to try. :)
>>3623742
Are you the same guy who always implies I'm boosting my own posts?...

Anyway, I think I've finished this one. Critique very welcome. What can I improve next time?

>>3623889
This is nice. A few things I notice: her cheeks/nose seem slightly elongated (she may just have a long face), and her eye is constructed oddly. Her canthus (lateral eye corner) looks like it should be SLIGHTLY further down to more closely match the orientation of her tear duct. The side of her face is also quite wide, which again may just be the actual model. Her neck also looks awkwardly craned, and her right (our left) shoulder looks really narrow/small. The contour from the back of her neck will continue on until the end of the canvas.

For a second charcoal though, this is really nice. Nice rendering, too. More time spent on an accurate drawing will help take it to the next level.

Trying to paint loosely, any thoughts?

>>3624235
Shapes look fantastic, blog?

>>3622480
Talking to a friend about how to use a mannequin for drawing and why simple mannequins are so important

>>3622480 #
Talking to a friend about how to use a mannequin for drawing and why simple mannequins are so important

>>3623859
Thanks man, helps a lot.

>>3624284
>that FWAP-esque blook-style construction and rectangular apparatus straight out of FDFAIW

A true favored son of Loomis

painted this some more

>>3624581
and im still painting this one

>>3616801
Don't know if this was mentioned but the photoshop Brush link 404'd

Some late night painting

>>3624713
the highlight on the left butt cheek is the best thing in this

>>3624581
>>3624641
It's really not good.

>>3624754
thanks heres another

>>3624801
Even worse.

>>3624129
Thanks for the comment. Actually the nose should be longer, and also the forehead should go further. The eye should be a little bigger and it has to be higher. The distance from the ear is fine, but it is a bit bigger originally, also the lips. The neck should be thinner and the shoulder should extend further.

Fuck, I didn't pay much attention to the proportions to focus on trying the charcoal rendering, totally contrary to what I usually do. Seeing it with less sleep I start to realize the mistakes. I'm going to let a few days go by and I'll do it again, paying more attention to the proportions; and of course I'm going to share it again here.

>>3623915
Dandruff

finished this

>>3625494
Good shit

>>3625494

>>3621918
It's not exactly a successful attempt but i can't say i didn't enjoy this

>>3624801
do you like the stuff you paint, brian?

>>3616801
First time drawing, pls gib critique.

Trying to get into car design, need to work on rendering out glossy/metallic paint with high contrast highlights/shadows, but I think I've got form down for the most part.

>>3625711
Oh what the fuck, I remember drawing that weird dude too. Yours looks way better than mine did.

>>3624265
thanks anon, dont have a blog tho :/

>>3625675
very nice

>>3624503
>>3624284
If you're not having fun with a pencil, are you even having fun?

This page is older, but I still like it
Studies of my friend Nick to learn how to stylize him while keeping the likeness

>>3625711
Aaaand... I drew a hand too. Simple stuff.

Lol randomness goes wrong