/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3619680
Less Edgy this time but a bit older.

I have been drawing for about a month now. Wish me luck

I've attempted my waifu. It is by no means good and I know there is a lot wrong with it. But I made an attempt. This is my first time attempting a face that wasn't a botched attempt at trying to constuct with Loomis.

Ignore the fundie practice bleeding through. I'm reusing paper. I only started like two weeks ago.

>>3619691
And by that I mean total. I have been drawing off and on since December, but only for like days at a time and then I'd take another huge break. So in total about a month

>>3619691
>>3619694

If you want to draw ur waifu ignore everything everyone else says and focus on just drawing simple shapes in perspective in between copying artists you like (Without tracing, develop your eye). All art teachers are a meme if it gets in the way of your fun and favorite thing to draw.

>>3619691
I've been drawing for three days and can tell you with absolute certainty that you are terrible.

>>3619698
I don't just want to draw my waifu, I want to do commissions. I actually drew this for my friend for $20 when he heard I bought a graphics tablet and wanted to encourage me

>>3619691
heh, stand aside.

>>3619699
You don't have to be a chef to know some food tastes bad, that doesn't make you any less of an asshole if you can't offer any advice.

>>3619705
loomis

Is it a bad habit if I sketch on paper first and then scan it to ink digitally? I don't really feel comfortable sketching on a small screenless tablet, but I'm fine when doing the lineart.

I drew the "just do it" man so I hopefully will someday "do it"

>>3619718
I don't know if that's a bad habit, but that's how I have always done it. Sketching is just a mess for me when I try to use my small ass Wacom tablet. I imagine it would be a different story if you use a touch screen tablet though.

>>3619718
No, that's pretty normal actually.

Also if anyone has any answers to my question >>3619641, would be appreciated.

Is drawing from references good practice for someone new? Or should I stick to trying to learn to draw from imagination? I struggle to think in three dimensions and was hoping for a little advice. Anything is appreciated.

>>3619734
its good to start studying reference because, for example, if you try to draw a head, without studying how a head looks, you wont know how to imagine how it looks

>>3619734
Do not draw from imagination until you learn to draw from reality first. Otherwise you just end up symbol-drawing your imagination instead of real-drawing your imagination. I am using basic language to get this complicated concept across to you. I hope you understand. Please understand.

>>3619742
This. I drew from imagination for years and got really good at believably adding variety to my complex symbols, but never actually learnt how to draw. My skills are suffering severely because of it and anyone with a good eye could tell.

>>3619734
Also anon if youre struggling to see in 3D, working on understanding form would help. Some people start sculpting to help, other people use 3D software, but make sure you read some books that help with form. There are good ones in the artbook thread and sticky but I use the Vilppu book and Peter Han's lessons. Loomis is a favourite here, tho some others prefer Hampton and Bridgman.

>>3619739
Thank you for your advice. It makes a lot of sense now that I think about it. To understand why a line goes where I least need to know it "goes there" in the first place.

>>3619742
Yes I think I understand! When I started, even with constuction it just didn't look right. This is before I knew what symbol drawing was. I was just really worried that I would wind up just copying the lines from a reference. Thank you for trying to keep it simple; I've never taken an art class so some of the terms on this board are foreign to me.


:)

>>3619723
We probably have the exact same tablet.

>>3619724
Thanks a lot

>>3619698
I still have no idea how to draw like... Most body parts. I of course want to draw more than just waifubestgrill, it's just I thought she'd be a fun first attempt.

>>3619754
I've looked through a little of loomis, and I've tried deconstruction(?) practice. I will definately look into Vilppu and peter han. Thank you for the advice!

>>3619691
>>3619704
LOL these could literally be from the same fucking artist they are so bad, holy shit

How is this so far? Need help particularly on the face

>>3619762
It's called construction, and you're welcome! Loomis is shilled to death but I don't care for him so much, Vilppu and Han are more up-to-date and they take their readers/students more seriously.

>>3619801
Wheres the drawing.I'm not gonna say stop painting if you're enjoying it, but if you're struggling with somthing, go back to the drawing board, literally.

>>3619801
What about the face is bothering you?

>>3619834
not quite sure if the smile and the eyes are right.

>>3619825
Gotcha. Will go back to the drawing.

>>3619834
Not that artist, but she's clearly far too asian for a caucasian woman. It's the eyes, lips, and cheeks. They work for an asian woman, but not for an american woman like spider gwen.

>>3619801
fewer midtones, and tweak her face proportions. the eyes are very far apart

>>3619861
nice man! thank you

>>3619849
>american
you mean white? asians can be american too, anon.

A quick doodle between games.

>>3619861
This is a good paint over but you say fewer midtones, and then added more to her hair or am I missing something?

>>3619917
Another tiny doodle of the pubg event banner.

Fixed some things suggested by the critiques. The initial drawing was no good but I did my best in fixing it.

>>3620077
The arms look awfully short.

>>3620078
Ahh yeah. Can't seem to get the length right with the perspective.

first time trying grayscale. No idea what I'm doing. Been drawing anime shit too long. Ready to actually learn. Please be blunt. Also I'm using CSP. What's a good brush for painting? Something that blends well?

>>3620130
Try again.

>>3619704
Something about the distance between the eyes is weirding me out.

>>3620130
bump up the contrast. The stem is the only thing that has depth

>>3619680
I made Mrs Big Tiddies Police Girl. I did it only for fun actually, and it's a first piece of anime I drew.
I know that lineart isn't good, but overall it isn't terrible r-right?

>>3620181
Where's the rest?

>>3620181
Oh shit I am blind. I just saw how much I fucked up ears, and eyes which makes her look retarded.

>>3620182
There is no rest, anon.

>>3620181
>>3620184
Doesn't look that bad, your strokes just need a little refining. It comes naturally after a while.

>>3620141
Same OP: I need feet and armpit connoisseurs to tell me if I got it right.

some boxes

is this right? I dont know anything about fundies.

>how tf do I draw anime

>>3620322
>>3620355
Two cubeposts in a row? You anons just brought a tear to my eye

>>3620358
By drawing anime... and not whatever the fuck that is. I don't think you want to draw anime anyways, and your style looks okay for what it is. Just practice a lot more. That girl especially has one huge ass ear. You know the one.

>>3620358
>yet another sinex poster.

>>3620425
What does that even mean.

>>3620457
Your style is really similar to Sinix's, he's very popular among beginners.

>>3620465
Ohh okay.
I actually really like sinix' style. He really influenced my line work and current style now that you've mentioned it. Is that bad? I've trying out different stuff lately.

>>3620468
I don't think it is, but the first anon probably does. Though if I were you, I wouldn't repeat his scratchy linework he tends to do in his videos. I'd clean up your lines desu.

>>3620475
Ah... now I know what filters to "desu."

Quick warmup. Gon do portrits today. Also fuck eyes and lips and noses n shit.

Tried a value study for an hour, what am I doing wrong?

I understand that I'm supposed to look for relational shapes, but even with that knowledge I just seem to suck at it. Will I just get better it in time if I practice more?

>>3620492
Too many subtle nuances of value. Generalize your values and merge your shapes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nap7dwHjD9Y

>>3620498
Thank you, I'll try that!

https://stiblogs.wordpress.com/
Hi looking for "feedback" on digital art gif feedback. Also ill be thankful for site visitors *cough cough shamless begging cough*

>would you consider whatever this is as anime anons? Is it appealing to you?
>i feel like I just got used at looking at my style that I think it looks okay when it probably isn't

>>3620543
>i feel like I just got used at looking at my style that I think it looks okay when it probably isn't
I'd encourage you to read perspective made easy and learn some basic perspective to get out of your comfort zone.

>>3620543
I wouldn't say it's anime, just stylised in a non-western way. It has appeal but your lack of confidence in anatomy--and as the other anon mentioned perspective--is obvious.

>>3619917
>>3619921
You're starting to get human anatomy, but your facial construction is riddled with symbol drawing. Work on your forms and lighting, do some face studies in your free time.

it's good that you're drawing in any spare moment you find during leisure though, it's definitely a better use of time than doing nothing at all.

I've begun taking sketches to illustrator after giving up on actual linework, but overall how is it looking?

>>3620564
>>3620575
Yeah I have noticed as well that I have been taking the easy route when drawing by only drawing in easy angles and perspective. I started practicing with 3d models to know the forms and be able to draw difficult angles recently. Also thanks anons, i'll pick up the book you mentioned.

I think this counts as a small improvement. But man I cant get lips.

>>3620135
will do. Got 6 hours before work. Gonna try some more.

>>3620153
how do I do that exactly? I just sort of winged it with the stem. Everything else I blocked in with color and then turned it to gray scale and lowered opacity. Everything seemed to get lighter constantly. Do I just pick a brand new color when I get stuck like that, instead of relying on the eye dropper? First time actively trying to render digitally

Some Franz von Bayros and Heinrich Kley copies.

>>3620590
It looks ugly and retarded

How do I improve my self-discipline? I get lazy in the beginning steps of a drawing or study, and it fucks me over later, but I keep struggling to muster the patience to do all the boring setting up stuff. I just want to get to the fun stuff.

>>3620610
And one more before work.

>>3620610
>>3620644

These look good, are the original images downloadable from the artbook thread?

>>3620639
Find ways to enjoy each individual section of the process. Like, try to find and focus on the things you enjoy.

>>3620649
i dont believe so, I bought the Heinrich kley book a while back cuz I couldnt find it and uploaded it but I lost the link and the von Baryos stuff is here.

https://art.vniz.net/en/bayros/

>>3620651
Do you mind making a new mega link to the Kley book if you can? Thank you for the other link also

>>3620650
You're right. I used to actually really like setting up my drawings. I wonder if my drop in confidence is affecting that.

Thanks anon.

>>3620653
Found it, my upload speed is god awful so I wasnt about to upload twice.

https://mega.nz/#!mPwlBZTI!WJHk2hFxD4X4z0FvYuRNJcv85ldzAdkvnzCT1SVJokU

>>3620634
thanks i'll work on it

Any tips on improving linework. Drawing from wrist probably isn't a good idea atm..

Dumb question but does it actually matter how I hold the pencil? The videos for beginners I've seen all say to hold it sideways but every time I try that it feels uncomfortable as hell

>>3620655
Thank you very much anon, youre a hero

>>3620696
it's a little bit of both desu. You want most of the motion to come from your arm but your wrist helps bend the curves or do detail work.

How do I get over fear of failure? I've been in a complete slump for almost half a year and it's totally sucked out any sense of purpose I had prior to this.

I'm in this horrible inbetween area where I hate that I'm not working but also fear sitting down and producing garbage so much that I take every measure not to think about my art. It can completely ruin my day if I have a hack at drawing again and not get the results I want.

How do I take this on the chin and push through? What do you guys do?

>>3620710

http://instagram.com/jhonpocket

this is where I'm at btw

>>3620701
Side ways?

>>3620710
Make bad drawings on purpose.

>>3620717

Sorry, don't know how to explain it. Like this. Overhand I guess?

>>3620711
Just get the fuck over it lmao
You're never going to be the best artist in the world but you can be the most "you" artist in the world.

>>3620701
>Dumb question but does it actually matter how I hold the pencil?
Personal preference.

>>3620725
Overhand just helps you focus on the bigger picture cause it makes you do big sweeping shoulder movements. Wrist and fingers are better for smaller more detailed strokes.

>>3620725
my shoulder hurts tho

>>3620644
>>3620610
And one original from imagination

>>3620773
I feel like you're really getting the planes right in the bottom one, if you've taken anything away from the studies. I don't know if it's just me but I forget that arch in the back exists sometimes and don't do the requisite shading to show that curved figure.

>>3620492
Started over, perspective's still off but I tried merging everything and I'm generally happier with the result (even if far from perfect).

Is there anything else I should be doing?

>>3620840
Your darks are too light.

i can't take it anymore
i've been drawing for years now but i just don't get better.

>>3620860
Keep at it anon, getting good at drawing takes a long time. We'll get there!

>>3620860
I've been drawing for 5 days and have already made insane improvements. Clearly you're doing something wrong.

>>3620860
Read some books homie. I had the same feeling as you just the other day. I know how shit it is. Just the next day I drew something I was insanely proud of and those feelings just completely died away.

Do another drawing, but every time you notice something even a tiny bit off, don't ignore it. Fix it. Even if it means going through a big tutorial on hair or whatever. Goodluck Anon, I know how shit it feels.

>>3620863
Not the anon youre replying to, but it's easier to improve when you just started than when you've been drawing for years, dipshit.

>>3620878
he's posting in this thread
I will be out of this thread in three months
clearly he is doing something wrong

>>3620883
Sure you will, newfriend. Can't wait to see you get torn to shreds in /draw/ in three months.

>>3620860
Try to isolate specific areas you feel uncomfortable with (anatomy, perspective, values, etc) and focus on those until you're confident in them. Hang in there.

So, I just bought a sheet of glass to use as a picture plane...and I realised I don't really know how I'm supposed to use it. I want to study photographs and find their vanishing points, but how do I apply that to paper where I can't really trace what's in front of me?

inb4 I'm retarded, I know.

>>3620892
>find their vanishing points
well you`ll find the vanishing point where 2 horizontal lines converge.
never seen anyone use glass b4 desu.

>>3620916
Yeah i know how to find VPs, but i figured using a picture plane to study photographs instead of wasting sheets of paper over and over would be better price-wise. I can find the VPs and HL based on that, but i suppose i wonder, okay so now i've traced all this shit and figured this out...now what? how will this help me when i draw from imagination on paper? or when i do a study on paper?

>>3620918
>based on that

i meant based on the converging lines, sorry i'm talking like a retard, in the drawing zone desu

>>3620886
>retard INFT thinks drawing is black magic

>>3620860
>that brainlet that can’t self analyze work

>>3620920
I'm entp thanks

>>3620922
No, I'm ENTP. You're not intelligent enough to be in my ranks.

>>3620924
If you're gonna shitpost can you at least pyw

I found the horizon line on this photo, but why do the buildings have different vanishing points? Isn't this 2-point perspective? How do I find my station point? I'm on chapter 2 of HtD but it just assumes in the book that you already know where your station point is.

postan Hampton studies on balance/spines

>>3620961
Two-point perspective doesn't mean "there's exactly two vanishing points that every object in the scene must converge to." Some of the buildings are not parallel with each other, so they will have their own sets of 2 vanishing points (which always fall on the horizon line in the case of 2-point). Draw the lines out toward the horizon and see for yourself.

>>3620996
Okay, thank you. I misunderstood. And some of the buildings are gonna stretch silly at the top because of the Cone of Vision right? Out of curiosity, how would I figure out the COV of this picture? I'd need to find my station point, right?

Here's some of the stuff I personally like the most. I know most of it isn't too recent but I just worked up the gall to do this.

>>3621125

>>3621126
Sorry about pic quality this one is literally ancient.

>>3621127

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>>3621172

Fucked up the eyes, but tried my best. Just started art, after doing it as a kid. This is watercolor and oil pastel.

>>3621178
Have some more confidence with your colors and lines over all. Aside from the eyes, it's alright. Deff need to practice.

>>3621189
thanks for the advice

Too dunk to judge these paints, but I like them so far. Need better paper, cotton rag makes a huge difference. Not as active wet as I'd like but that probably a paper problem. Thank fuck I picked a conservative pallette to start with, these shits would be garish otherwise.

>>3621207
Would rec watercolor in general to /beg/ because unfinished sketches are boring. Unfinished watercolors are happy accidents: the medium.

got intuos pro today
still utter shit at this but I like being consumed by something that isn't porn or video games for hours

Which book is the one that teaches you how to make bodies with boxes n shit? Hampton, Loomis, Vilppu, etc? So many names.

>>3621250
All of them, but vilppu is more what to do when drawing boxes really doesn't work for you.

tear my ass apart boys

What should I work on when trying to get figures in perspective?

>>3621263
Bend over then.

>>3621254
Ooo thank you anon. I work a lot better with circles than boxes desu. I'll keep at boxes but that's good to know.

>>3621263
Haha he's got doodie on his head

C'mon guys how bad it looks?

>>3621325

reference

>>3621310
Step 1: Learn to draw anything you see accurately.
I recommend Essentials of Realism by J.Hardesty on Schoolism.com, The Sight-Size Cast by Darren R Roussar, New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, Keys to Drawing - Bert Dodson. If you go through all those resources you will get enough of a grasp to practice by yourself.

Step 2: Learn formal perspective. Perspective Made Easy by Norling is not good enough. Learning it in depth will answer so many of your questions and is much easier to do than you might think. I highly recommend the perspective lectures of Erik Olson. You can get it off cgpeers. He covers figures in perspective very nicely so it directly addresses your question but I think you need to do these two things.

3: Learn Anatomy: It's only truly beneficial for you to learn anatomy after at least going through step 1 because only then will you start to perceive. You can try Steve Huston's book first because it's relatively easy for a beginner to pick up. Then I would suggest moving on to Michael Hampton's lecture series, the book is more of a supplement really, personally I've learned more from the lecture than the book by itself but maybe that's just me.

>>3621325
You lost all of subtle twists and tilts.

>>3621325
Good try anon. Your lines are a little too rigid though. Loosen up a bit.

>>3619694
nice waifu

>>3620543
every single one of the foreheads are too tall

>>3620594

>>3621125
google what an ear looks like

>>3621263
guidelines + straighlines

>>3621325
that's not how boobs work. gravity exists

>>3621451
nice inane comment + misdiagnosis retard. Neck yourself.

I always just drew without construction so I decided to pick up Loomis and try there.
I kinda skimmed around books and got to that one thing with the gesture skeleton things, so I decided to use that method of constructing figures. I'm reading some of the stuff and practicing some exercises but obviously I need to practice more.

I'm pretty bad and I have no creativity so I tried to copy the image on the right and break it down to get a better feel for more dynamic poses and how the bones work or should work I guess.

>>3621449
blog?

>>3621448
I knew I'd get shit for the ear kek

>>3621448
Also, thanks for the guide lines though I think some of the animosity in his eyes is lost.

Inktober practice.

So. Give it to me straight. Will I ever get good.

>>3621647
Here's the ref.

>>3621647
You'll get good if you practise, see the sticky.

>>3621647
>Will I ever get good.
yes because you did the first step
you started to draw

>>3621647
Start by drawing basic shapes first.
Try drawing something like cube, cylinder, etc or simple objects around you, also avoid using picture as ref, it's bad for beginner. Observe object in real life will give you more information about that object and thus help you draw better.
Don't jump straight into portrait or complex stuffs. It's just like math, you can't do calculus if you can't even do something basic like + - / *, right?

It's my first time posting OC on /ic/ so please be gentle, HB pencil on lined paper, I know some things like the hands are pretty shit but I think I got the proportions fairly accurate, the shading isn't fantastic but I think I did a decent job considering I only used HB, I might redraw it tomorrow using graphite+chalk so I can make the shading darker and the highlights brighter.

guys pls. i just dont get skin colors. even when i study. fucking whyppipo look different with different fucking lighting and everything gets so confusing. anyways, i know my blending is shit, ill fix that in a sec. but here are some things im stuck on, seperating the black hair from the black jacket. values of the hair, values overall. im satisfied with how the face looks but some about how the hair sits on it just feels off. for context, the light is from a window to the right with no interior lighting

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>>3621433
best poster ITT

What is wrong with my drawigns? Can someone put me in the right direction? There's just something off about them but I can't see it I just know it's not good. It would be helpful to know exactly what things I should improve on other than correct anatomy.

>>3621790
Here's another

>>3621790
>those baby legs

Tell me how bad my shading is and tell me how I can get better at it. Please let me know how horrible my proportions are, and if my anatomy is total crap. What should I work on, fellas?

Can I get some critique bout this piece?

Please rip into the composition and tell me if you think it's decent and worthy of being on the cover of a gamecase, or if it is pretty meh/shitty and painfully amateur. Brutal honestly please. I tried to make it close to a megaman style as I could.

How long would it have taken any of you to create this from scratch?

Any feedback at all of what you'd change, whether it's color, gimmicks, etc?

>>3621841
Why even draw a face if you're going to do that to it?

>>3621841
The head is literally looking to the left but the face is going in the opposite direction. Why did you draw the face?

>>3621848
>>3621849
Here is the reference. Yeah the face was drawn poorly. What about the shading though?

>>3621860
draw from life

how do you draw peter hans contour lines on objects that diverge in multiple directions?

>>3621919
Imagine what it might look like as a 3D soft dog toy or something. Imagine it's a stuffed, tight pillow or something, then draw the lines to match that form.

>>3621922
I now how to do that. what I don't know how to do really is twist the lines to show that.
some lines go in one direction, some go in another. some vertical some horizontal. but I don't know how to blend them into each other where the shapes meet

>>3621927
heres a pic to illustrate the awkward bit in the middle

>>3621928
Draw a horizontal line to represent the form, that will be easier if you put an ellipse at the end of the bit that sticks out, to show its direction. Sorry I can't show you myself I'm phone posting.

>>3621932
hmm bit difficult to understand what you mean. I attempted something.

so ive got a bean with an arm. don't know if han would make it this complicated tho.

ignore green bean.

>>3621952
That's it, looks good to me.

>>3621958
okay ill see if I can apply this to my practicing.

Started life drawing on the trains today. How long does it take to get used to people getting nervous/uncomfortable when you draw them?

>>3622020
Maybe go to a park or coffee shop instead. A train can be too personal.

>>3622020
Hey mr.autismo. The key is to not show people that you're drawing them. Don't look at them and look down on your paper, it will make people extremely uncomfortable and make you seem like a creep.

Like the other guy said, coffee shop is perfect. More inconspicuous, and having a notebook and sketching there won't make you stand out.

Never posted before and didn't really know where these would go so uh...advice plz, anons?

pt 1/2 of my recent stuff, I just got a lot of alcohol markers and I've been using them nonstop.

>wtf is my style
>hands are a bitch
>good alcohol-based marker tips or tutorials much appreciated
>pose help

Plz and thank you <3

>>3622065
pt 2/2. My phone camera sucks but hopefully these are good enough that anons can provide some tips for the stuff above or just...y'know, whatever.

>>3622020
Start by showing them the goods.

>>3622065
>>3622066
Get out of your comfort zone. Read perspective made easy, you'll find it in the book thread.

Ca

can I please get some opinion or critique for this piece?

I rarely see rule34 of mahabharta characters, might as well contribute tb qh.
so roast me fellow.

I guess I can link my post here too

>>3622121

It's not horrible for someone that just started drawing right?

Started drawing in June, here is the most recent thing I've drawn. Critique would be much appreciated.

Can someone show me how you'd draw this treasure chest being opened? I can't get it too look right for the life of me

I need a crash course on how to do anything digitally.

I'm decent at Blender
is it "cheating" if I do my models in blender, then trace it with carbon then paint over it?
at least to get an idea of proportions and a picture of what i'm going to do

>>3622204
Literally draw a cylinder through the box, using the lip of the chest at the back corner where the hinges would be as the center of your cylinder, and then just adjust where the lid would be in relation to show various degrees of openness.

what are some good exercises to increase my speed? ive been grinding fun with a pencil for 7 months, bottom right is what i can do in 10 minutes and i draw for at least an hour a day. i am getting increasingly anxious, should i begin speed exercises or should i finish the book?

I started doing the funny faces today. I think they look a lot better than the stuff I did earlier

>>3622231
Ctrl+paint dot com, my guy

>>3622309
>missing the point of that book entirely

Anon.... Fun w/ a pencil is literally a shit crash course in construction. If you spent 7 months on that, you're doing it very wrong. You read through that, maybe do a few of the heads and whatnot to grasp the idea of construction, then you move the fuck on.

Seriously, you should have moved on to literally anything else within a day of reading that.

>>3622344
>regards, NGMI

>>3622346
So you're saying that him not learning anatomy, perspective, realism, etc. are all fine? He's literally turned in to a human photocopier that can only draw loomis, and not even unique poses at that.

>>3622352
the skills ive learned prove effective drawing live portraits too. at least i can say that what took me 3 hours to draw a self portrait 8 months ago would take me 40 minutes today so i have been improving in speed. though you are correct in that i don't think i could draw anything unique still. should i finally move onto figure draw? there is definitely more i could learn from the last 30 pages of fwap, just from skimming it

>>3622231
krita

>>3622352
Not that anon, but come on. I agree that seven months is a little long, but those drawings display perspective and form at least. The tribesman drawing, especially, is pleasant and interesting to look at and displays good rhythm, perspective, and style. Quit being a crab

>>3622361
You're literally reading an introduction to art book. Literally everything FWAP teaches can be learned much more effectively from pretty much any other book. Hell, even just sticking with the Loomis series, you'll get more out of his actual books than you ever will for FWAP.

>>3622366
He literally copied every pose from the book, dude. Ask him to draw that same tribesman sitting in a chair wearing a pair of sneakers trying to figure out how to tie the laces from a frontal view. Willing to bet he can't.

>>3622368
>>3622366

>>3622366
its a copy though, and not even a perfect one at that. i cannot take credit for loomis's amusing doodles

>>3622368
ill try

>>3622368
This is what I get for trying to be nice

>>3622378
It's good to be nice, anon. But it's also good to let people know when they're fucking up, even if it's not a nice thing to do. Had it been an original composition, I'd give him props. But let's see if he can pull it off.

If he can, then he did take something valuable away from the book. If not, he's wasted 7 months of his time becoming an efficient photocopier.

>>3622367
FWAP is good. Post your work.

>>3622058
Wont people at a coffee shop notice too? How is it any different?

Is figure drawing supposed to be so difficult? How am i even supposed to do this? I feel like i can't get the gestures no matter what. It's all incoherent.

>>3622020
Look them right in the eye like a Chad and draw as noisily as possible

>>3622387

Bruh, nobody is saying FWAP is bad. But it's not something that deserves even close to 7 months of study. It's the equivalent of people that grind boxes nonstop for months.

>>3622387
Why are you getting so defensive? He never said that it was a bad book, only that it was an introduction to basic concepts of art. He even said to read Loomis's other works to get more value out of the ideas taught in FWAP. He's getting mad because the dude spent 7 entire months on the one book, and is now a human copy machine. And by the looks of it, the Anon who spent 7 months becoming a copier didn't even finish the book, which is an even bigger facepalm.

>>3622381
>>3622376
JUST

>>3622418
The proportions are off and the perspective is a little wonky, but clearly you've gained something from the book and do understand construction and a very basic idea of gesture. Grats. Now it's time to move on to a different book. If you like Loomis, any other book of his will do, just be aware that FWAP is basically where his cartoony stuff ends. Everything else focuses more on realism. Just don't get disappointed or frustrated when what you draw from those isn't like what you drew from FWAP.

And please, do yourself a favor and don't spend another 7 months on a single book. At least try to get some diversity in there and rotate what you practice on.

>>3622423
i appreciate the criticism, i agree it is time to move on but could you give me more direction? is there any specific book you had in mind? i was thinking i should get a grasp on perspective next, so perspective made easy was my next venture. however i feel as though transitioning to loomis figure drawing will be far more natural to me

I dont get it, is this board for anime art or is /i/? Whats the difference?

>>3622430
Perspective is really, REALLY easy to pick up on, and what you need to know is usually covered in most figure drawing books. I know Figure Drawing For All It's Worth covers perspective and proportions, but the approach to perspective there assumes you already have an understanding of it. So I'd say, and I'm dead serious, go watch the drawabox videos for an introduction to perspective. That should give you the basic groundwork for understanding what Loomis throws at you.

If you enjoy perspective and want to get in to something more complex than people (such as getting backgrounds and objects in to your artwork), then yes by all means pick up a book on perspective and read it alongside your figure book.

>>3622436
the c, critique

>>3622436
This is the 'serious' art board, for both realism and anime. /i/ is more casual

Do you like this?
Its a fractal I made with python.
The rest is all editing.

>>3622509
Looks like part of the cover art of Touhou 17

6 min drawing. Anything glaringly bad?

I call this one 'It's Not a tumor'
Been learning for about 3 days. I have no muscle memory on how to hold a pen properly, so I've been trace sketching, and inking, resketching and inking. Body shapes are okay but facial details are pretty bad. The only artistic Experience I have is air brushing gundams, so I tried to apply some pre shading techniques, but I need more practice on how blending modes work. Please tell me how bad I am senpai.

>>3622509
You could use that style with cannabis, there are interesting ideas using that

>>3622572
You can compare it to the original yourself.

I just coloured it. what do you think and how bad is it? feedback please.
>>3622509
is that generated using l-system algorithm?

>>3622624
Besides the obvious out of lines stuff, It looks good.
I think you did a good job with the light parts, knowing where to shade the skin light.
The hair came out nice too.

I made a character reference sheet for my OC, I haven't given him a name nor any background info. May I please get helpful critique so that I can work on my flaws?

>>3619680
this was pretty fun to draw
any critique?

>>3622690
Use a softer graphite.

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bump

>>3622697
I'd recommend he do the opposite actually.

>>3622639
Thanks.
To be honest I have never fapped on my own work before until now

>>3622717
grim

>>3622697
I used a 2b pencil

>>3622664
he looks stiff

>>3621508
This' for beginners. Not fucking gods

anything i should do to this before i start blending?

>>3622639
Fear the Low-Imagination-Low-Effort Robot of DOOM!

>>3622857
Don't normally give up on my drawings but these attempts at learning perspective have truly been destroying me. How exhilarating.

>>3621841
>>3621860

Bumping my post since nobody gave it any proper critique. Slaughter me with critique guys.

>>3622859
learn how vanishing points work

>>3622873
Care to redline?

>>3621931
Don't hide hands

>>3622132
His hair, his suit and his pants have the same colour. You sure that's a good idea?

Okay so I've been drawing for 3 years on paper and now I've decided to buy my first drawing pad and what the fuck
I can't draw anything without it looking like it's some 2 minutes doodle made with a mouse, pic related, the outline is all pixelated and shaky, not to say I can't even work out the shades and shit.
Any tips/tutorials? yeah I've searched in google but seems like nobody even considered that anyone could be this bad.
>inb4 somebody recommends me tutorials for drawing in general
I can easily draw on paper, I mean I'm not good but at least /beg/-tier acceptable. I'll post my eye drawing when I find it.

>>3623002

>>3621462
vegetas limbs could use some more work

>>3623002
just use it as a mouse for a while. everyone has to go through that phase.

>>3623002
Well, first you should have bought a drawing tablet.

Second, try using a 5k x 5k canvas.

Thirdly you might want to look up drawing stabilizers. I'm aware PS doesn't have one, but if you bought a low-end drawing pad, it might have some loss inherit to Analog to Digital conversions.

Fourthly there are a great series to digital drawing in the sticky or in the OP, I don't remember, but take a time to look for it. You will find it.

hello /beg/, I was wondering if I should learn from proko, bridgeman, or drawabox for construction. Which do you believe would be the best for a beginner to follow?

>>3623012
If absolute, Drawabox then go to Proko.

>>3623007
>>3623006
Thanks guys, will take it into consideration
>should have bought a drawing tablet
It was the one my friend recommended, I have a very limited budget and I'm a complete beginner and she said it would be good for starters.

>>3619691
they all laugh at you now but I can tell you're gonna be one of the best on this board.

>>3622729
jesus fucking christ it's a character ref sheet, it's supposed to look like that. fuck

>>3622624
>I-system algorithm
I have no idea what's that. I used recursion.

>>3622604
Do you have an example or links?

>>3623089
no but it does look stiff still

I'd be interested in seeing some more dynamic stuff from you because I'm not altogether convinced this isn't how you draw regularly

>>3623102
well l-system denotes how's your tree looks like based on set of rules (a grammar, I should say). these rules generate a string which then you parse to generate a tree using stack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBEA6VSUybk
it's pretty cool

>>3623121
I'm not the OP of the drawing, I'm just saying if you look at any character ref sheet, its going to look stiff because it's supposed to look stiff

>>3623127
>did it in Python
>using Unity which only supports C# and Javascript

>>3623007
>I'm aware PS doesn't have one

it does now

>>3623157
python is like pseudo code, it's piss easy to convert it to c#

Just started drawing today pretty much while reading through DRSB, just finished the Picasso exercise and the pure contour exercise and now need to move onto the modified one, thing is I don't have the viewfinder or marker pen or any of the other materials outside of pencil and paper. Is it worth getting those other materials and doing every single exercise and if so where would be the best/cheapest place to get them online? The DSRB website feels like a scam for what it's charging for basic supplies.

>Be sure to draw through every single ellipse you draw for any of the lessons on this website. That means drawing around the elliptical shape two or three times (no more, no less) before lifting your pen. This will let you draw with more speed and confidence, smoothing out any wobbling
is this actually good advise? i feel as though this would introduce negative habits

>>3623171
i went through that book without any of those materials so they may not be necessary, though i have to say i find it very natural to imagine a picture frame which may not come to others as easily. what i can say is a picture frame is for a level of "perfection" a beginner artist really shouldn't be concerned with. you only need to understand the idea of the picture frame, which is to envision what is in front of you onto the paper

>>3623178
nevermind, it appears the ultimate goal is to use them as a crutch and to build muscle memory and later remove them. i should have read more before asking

I did the line of action

I don't like drawing. I like painting with watercolours. Recommend me a beginner book.

>>3623269
painters sketch with pencil first, youll have to learn from the start

>>3623269
>I don't the one skill necessary for good painting
Maybe try knitting?

>>3623121
OP here, I acknowledge now that you've pointed out that my art does look stiff, I guess I need to grind out more quick sketch figures.

And here

>>3623269
you should read the beginners guide to drawing with watercolours. its on amazon.

Today marks the end of the first week of me trying to learn2art. I used Loomis head construction for this. It's a solid 4/10, right? Reference image in the top-right. It's Constantine from Justice League Dark. I didn't trace anything, which should be pretty obvious.

>>3622717
You do you anon.
I'm mostly getting into drawing so I can draw character refs for RP

>>3623338
It looks like you drew one of those wooden pose-able figures. Keep in mind that the hips and spine twist, curve, and arch based on whatever action is occurring. I think the rigidity in your drawings comes from perfectly aligned/square hips and shoulders.

When i start out figure drawing, am i supposed to be doing the stick figures for 30 seconds at first? I'm using the Hampton book.

>>3623526
Yeah I do own a wooden mannequinn and sometimes use it to aid me with drawing frombimagination. what kind of exercises will help me focus on this twisting motions to help my figures look less stiff?;;;

>>3622020
Can i please get advice because i don't wan't to be rude or do something inaporpriate but drawing in public is a thing youre supposed to do, right?

>>3623548
All I can tell you is that rhythm is incredibly important to drawing interesting action poses, and poses in general. A book I can highly recommend is Mike Matessi's "Force: Dynamic Life Drawing for Animators". That should steer you in the right direction.

>>3623553
Alright, I'll just pirate the book and give it a try, will post an update sketch after I get a hang of the techniques. Thanks anon.

>>3623557
You obviously have a good grasp of construction, you just need to give your drawings a little extra spice. If you can implement nice rhythmic poses, you'll have some nice looking shit I bet

I decided to not draw a bald girl for a change

>mfw Ive been drawing seriously for 20 days now and it still looks worse than everything ITT
Im too scurred

>>3619680
I tried to draw a proportioned face

>>3623770
reference

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>>3623782
symbol symbol symbol READ THE FUCKING STICKY JESUS CHRIST

>>3623784
what a cunt

Spent so much fucking time drawing today, and I stopped being stressed like an hour and a half in. I can't wait to make more progress tomorrow. We're all going to make it !

>>3623784
Is it expected to not post your first drawings until you've mastered observational drawing? Wouldn't you be a non-/beg/ at that point? Or is it perhaps expected that you automatically not symbol draw perfectly after reading the sticky despite that not being possible?

>>3623476
I think instead of simply mimicking characters from animated shows, you learn the parts of the face and how they coexist on the noggin. I can tell from your drawing that you're just drawing what you see without really absorbing anything. Keep at it and stick with the loomis, but it helps to actually know WHAT youre drawing if you feel me

can i get a mf redline or sumfin?

NEW THREAD

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>>3623803
its expected that you READ THE FUCKING STICKY

>>3623986
Answer the questions Nosebro

>>3623741
Just gotta give those lips that same treatment you gave the nose. Light lines, and implied lines. Good work!

>>3623866
Is she thicc fat or does she have abs

Can't be both brudda

>>3623782
Looks shit for a referenced drawing
Even as a noob

Compare the two, they do not look alike at all.

>>3624038
werkin that out senpai

>>3623750
Just post ur art dude

>>3619703
this is anime face construction, learn it.

Memes aside, why Is Loomis considered a meme? I just checked out Drawing The Head & Hands book from my college library, but I'm confused on how to approach it. Any tips?

>>3625827

Jokes aside**

>>3625827
I know this might sound retarded or a waste of time to you , but read pic related.
It gives a concise history of art in a fascinating way without too many details and dates that are boring.
Why read art history?
It’s all about the progression of how we see and how what we see is put down on canvas/paper/ wood panel or whatever.
And to do that you have to THINK about what and how you see.
A MAJOR part of art is thinking.
And learning the progress of mankind in the realm of art is learning about the progress of mans thinking.
And then that will help you “see” what you are wanting and eventually trying to learn.


OR you can just try to draw cute anime girls and have a folder on your computer to put them and wonder why it’s not doing it for you.

>>3626002
Oops, pic related was this.
That one was to be a joke.