/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3612718
yes, i dont know why anyone would argue against it

Yes, but I’m not sure what that objective standard is.

All I know is shit like OP makes me suffer to look at. Maybe that was the goal of the artist? But if a video game was designed to nauseate and confuse and frustrate, that doesn’t make it a good game when the player is nauseated and confused and frustrated.

Absoultely

>>3612718
When something doesn't look as the original artist intended it, it's a flaw. Or put in a different way, when we can spot obvious errors in form and the whole piece is maybe hard to understand but the artist didn't want it that way. The best example of the opposite would be Piccasso, who drew what I'd consider shit but it had a meaning and the randomness of it was on purpose. I dunno how else to say it

>>3613024
Here I doubt the artist made the stylistic choice to represent legs that way for some hidden purpose. He simply was bad at drawing a running gesture.

>>3612718
What do you think?

>>3613080
based ladder im fine with illustration at good tier because thats what it honestly feels like

>>3613034
Simply put, if you are good to the point that you can do realism, you can make anything and it won't be bad.
That's the whole point as to why anyone gave a shit about picasso and took him seriously, he could paint in realism but he decided to do the weird shit to say something.

Most people that do "quirky" "styles" just don't know how to draw and lie to themselves

>>3613080
Music, acting, writing are in the wrong place.
Music has a tonne of value. It gives a fuckton amount of emotion by itself, and not limited to that of course- as seen in movies, shows, and dramas. Writing takes a lot of effort, in fact, as far as I can see, it's harder than visual arts in a way since the only tool you have is words. Same goes for acting- effort is put in to become the character and successfully convey intended things to audiences. Whoever wrote this needs to do one of these things in their life, and/or be less cynical. Seems subjective fuck.

>>3613080
You just know a STEMlord made this. If you're talking about ART, it's literally the opposite, flip it upside down. All of those are arts, sure, but the more mechanical/technical it is, the further it is from art I think. Animation, designs, cartography, architecture... those are all very methodical and can be emulated by anyone; the uniqueness, the expression of the self is at a minimal while still being art.

Writing, doing music, performing at a theatre and coming up with wacky fashion design choices to express your true self, those are the most pure arts I think.
For illustration it depends on your approach. Once I read here that an artist and a craftsman are different things, or something like that. There's people drawing to truly produce new art, and those others merely using techniques to try to emulate reality as mathematically accurate as possible like a living camera and those aren't really doing art.

>>3613181
Animation is God tier it literally brings art to life

>>3613080
>Cartography
>Literally making a fucking map
>God Tier

>>3613080
>Cartography god tier after 1950
>Interior design above Architecture
>Music isn't in all of the categories at the same time.

>>3612830
OP image is Guernica by Picasso and it is very much so intended to express suffering, pain and confusion as it depicts bombing of a city.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_(Picasso)

>>3613080
Idiot cunt any work shouldn't be better because of the medium used. how the urban planning better than design? Its a science barely even an art at any level. This shit is so dumb and Cartography? computers make maps now retard. god damn this is so fucking stupid.

>>3613080
ayyyy god tier GANG reporting in

>>3613181
>animation is very mechanichal and can be made by anyone
wanna know how I know you don't animate?

>>3613024
I don't get why people shit on Yev.

>>3614141
People? You mean one guy, right?

>>3612718
Yes and No; Both

Clearly certain images impart specific ideas and feelings, such is the reason art has grown to where it is today. 'Objective' generally points towards materialistic positions, where as 'Subjective' is the realm of mind, idea and imagination. In this way, Art is both subjective and objective; being as such, you can have art be objectively a pile of burning garbage, of which simultaneously expresses the idea of Nirvana. These two pathways flow into each other, creating a benevolent energy that has brought Art to the present moment.

>>3613080
>>3613621
>>3613608
>>3613248
Cartography is money tier, faggots

>>3613613
It’s the kind of art that looks like just home decor at first glance.

>>3613080
Whoa whoa, MUSIC? Being the same tier as social studies, really.
>anon has such shit taste that they think music is just shit in general
Just listen to better music, jesus.

>>3613622
Animation? Traditional or puppet?

>>3612718
there are two things that an artwork can adhere to: personal taste and instituted standards (aka personal tastes of some elite, with reasoning applied)

so no they can't be objectively bad, they can just not follow the tastes
however it doesn't mean that we can let it off the hook, since we all follow our own tastes as living organisms, so everyone who doesn't agree with us need to be converted or suppressed (or we need to let ourselves be convinced by someone else that their standards are worth adhering to)

>>3613080
>theatre arts, music and acting in Why Even Live Tier
What kind of literal plebeian wrote this? Who put Cartography at the top?

>>3614362
Without Catrography, how would we be able to make a map of your eyes, because I keep finding myself getting lost in them?

>>3614365
A-anon, I...

>>3613080
Is that meant to be perceived employment outcomes?

>>3614365
stop

>>3613080
>Shakespeare is shit tier
End your life, m8.

>>3614401
Keen goyim

>>3614362
Bad person for sure.

>>3614365
aaaaAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>3614589
hamlet is a cuck

>>3614631
Fuck off retard, I'm asking whether the faggot's dumb power ranking is meant to be perceived employment outcomes because it makes fuck all sense otherwise, dipshit.