/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3611313

Because the pay is shit and it takes a long ass time to do even a half decent job

>>3611313
True, almost all modern hero comics are trash, same art styles over and over again.

I'm digging alternative comics.

It's assembly line shit. The reason the coloring is often especially offensive is because it's a job that's given to any intern with the spare time for it.
Shit inking and coloring ruining decent penciling is routine. Fuck cape comics.

>>3611313
because you are telling a story as well as doing the artwork, so as long as its at least passable it can be tolerated since you are not trying to win an award

>>3611317
Pretty sick, link this.

>>3611333
I often like comics better when it's the same person drawing and writing. It's assembly line stuff with minimum communication between each link in the chain like superhero comics that I really dislike.

>>3611313
Because the artist doesn't give a shit. If you want good art, you need to allow the artist to work on something he gives a shit about. If you're handed a random comic book that's nothing more than a cash in, you simply won't be inspired to do more than the minimum. You can't get somebody like Moebius or Inoue if you give them shitty long running capeshit to work on.

>>3611313
because western artists don't have the discipline/care to completely dedicate their lives to their craft in the way that manga artists do. It's less about the art and more about paying the bills at some point.

>>3611313
I honestly think that it aint too bad if not for the shitty rendering
also many part of the comics are created by different people that also hurts the intend of the writer
but yeah the capeshit industry harmed American comic for decade now, greatly affects the art too
but noncape shit can frequently have good art

Because in the 90s digital painting was just emerging, I think with Corel Painter or something. These were the pioneers of that art style. No one really looked at the art and said "hey, doesn't this airbrushing look really unrealistic and make everyone look pillow-y?" because they were too distracted by the novelty and newness of it.
Also,
give comic artists a break.
>>3611316
qft

>>3611399
what is this?

>>3611560
>blacksad
furry noir with engaging plot and amazing art

>>3611389
This is really dumb. 95% of manga is just hot garbage as all media is. Which just so happens to include western comics. And id also say that the top tier stuff of western comics is better then manga just by the sheer fact that mid-tier trash comics still have more life and effort then the same assembly line manga shit.

>>3611350
Try Lorenzo Mattotti comics.

>>3611604
he is a dumb weeb, he would do anything to promote his "superior" nipponese artist

>>3611934
Your thumbnail made me think of Shaun Tan before I could see anything clearly and I was thinking "Shaun Tan BTFOs most manga artists" and lo and behold you posted Shaun Tan.
Legend.

90% of anything, anywhere is shit

it's called sturgeon's law

>>3611316
>Because the pay is shit and it takes a long ass time to do even a half decent job
Then why do manga look so good when Japanese get paid pennies to create twice as much in a month as Americans?

>>3611313
Shitty inking work + shitty digital coloring. Sometimes the pencils are decent or even good but once the mouthbreathing inker gets his hands on them, they're fucked. Manga gets things right by having the comics made by one person, maybe with a little assistant help. They also keep the art black and white mostly, which is easier on the eyes. Comic books literally gradient fill everything with no variation and it looks like shit. They need to imitate manga. Not necessarily in art style, but in production.

>>3611952
Because the Japanese can become millionaires from manga. It's not paid as badly as American comics.

Hack colorists ruin everything.

>>3611952
don't japanese have assistants?

>>3611570
i wonder how long something like that would take. it makes my eyes water just looking at it.

>>3611313
burger editors are a plague

>>3611952
japanese comic have no color and usually have little background
but yeah they do work hard and got pay shit unless you are a popular artist probably because the job market is flood with other artist

>>3612080
how come everytime this kind of post is written, it never mentions bande dessinée ? genuinely curious, do people just don't know anything about it ?

>>3611790
my man. I would be a happy man If you were to tell me you've read mattotti because I posted him on /ic/

>>3611313
too much dialogue is bad in comics. i wont read it if theres too much. its all in the art work.

>>3611604
OP's pic and the vast majority of capeshit LITERALLY is assembly line shit. Only Europe rivals manga and even then it's much less overall.

>>3611936
He's a storybook illustrator you dumbass, not working on a weekly or monthly schedule.

>>3612384
Nope, I'm italian.