/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

from the ref dumb thread

I'm a stupid doo doo head and van gogh was a hack

Here's the comic I made today.

>>3605662

ive already accepted the fact im ngmi.

its just for fun.

>>3605720
that canvas looks so fucking gross what the fuck did you do

>>3605662
After trying for one week, (and reading loomis) i finally made my first non-abomination. Memes aside, im quite proud of what i did... What do you think? What should i try now?
sorry bad english

>>3605841
cats have been sitting on it for the last 2 days. Bogie's been licking his junk on it like it's his job. Was playing the COD beta with my hands on it for a bunch of the weekend too. Had thecomputer sitting on it. Ate a KFC famous bowl on it. And when you do mechanical pencil on canvas panel it gets all schmeary from any contact.

It all gets covered in gesso and shit next so all of Bogie's crotch ooze will be forever immortalized in it until the next fire destroys it probably.

>>3605916
>>3605841
look at these laziness enabling assholes. Howm I supposed to get shit did like this?

>>3605835
Don't give up cucklord, anyone can make it

Did this after seeing the new sinix video, any tips?

>>3605871
I really like the face on this one it has nice shapes. Is there a ref on this btw the ear and neck area looks off.

>>3606010
some sketches from refs

>>3605844
Loomis

>>3605871
looks uncanny/weird as a thumbnail but better full sized. i forgot what exactly that means..

>>3605662
Omg :D someone used my art for OP picture. Im so honored!

>>3606103
I just had to! You're one of my favorite artists on /ic/ - the OP pic is so well done

>>3605953
Why are those teeth floating in empty pink space

>>3606010
Nice composition and colour. The butt shape makes me uncomfortable and the fingers pointy shape aren't appealing, and the viewer left shoulder looks off, but those three issues are the only ones I have.
Love the way the shoes, legs, and especially the hair looks.

>>3605844
Keep working on your forms, anon. The legs look like flat noodles.

>>3605835
You know you're skilled, don't fish for compliments.

I watched hunchback last night and found out its probably one of my favorite dinney films, except for the fucking gargoyles. So I drew a gross, naked freak quazi today for fun before I get my ngmi ass back to studying like I know I should

>>3605662
This is a sketch that I'm pretty comfortable with and am about to start working on the final. The one thing I've been struggling with is whether or not this looks like Jon Snow. Is the likeness good enough to successfully recognize him? Like - at a glance, does this look like him? It's hard to capture his sort of sad-boy look

Can you also tell that the backdrop is the north? It's a simplified / stylized version of it, but I was hoping the most recognizable locations (Winterfell, the Dreadfort, the Wall, etc.) are enough for it to read as the North.

>>3606284
I did not think it was Jon Snow until I saw his armor.

>>3606284
You have too much repetition in the BG shapes and without his clothes he doesn't look like Jon Snow at all.

>>3606307
This but it's not as bad as being nothing like him. He definitely has some jon snow likeness to him, but there are enough things off that he looks like a different person, i dont know what specifically though. and no sorry, the background just looks like a generic bunch of houses and trees and shit. redesign your composition to have jon closer to it all, so you can draw the building biggers and maybe add flags and banners.

>>3605929
Nice blog faggot, now shoo shoo back to /beg/

>>3605720
I hate van gogh. I dont get why ppl like him

>>3605662
What a terrible choice for OP pic

>>3605938
Was the video on how to make misshapen heads?
>>3606284
Idris Elba as Jon Snow, so progressive!

>>3606339
because he was crazy and well marketed and kind of seen as the face of the schism away from realism and stuff idk

painted this in acrylics

>>3606407
breddy ged

Made an elf, what is missing?

>>3606643
Blog?

Can't wait until I'm actually happy with these little sketches. What does it look like to you?

>>3606680
Finish rendering it. The sleeves are a muddy mess.

>>3605662
>>3606103
>>3606158
Samefag. No one likes your shitty art deco kitsch.

>>3606379
Dude u suck at painting. Ive watched your prgress the last 2 years i see no improvements

>>3605844
Still making doodles, but i dont know what im failing

>>3606871
I don't often tell people to draw boxes, but in your case you gotta draw boxes, and read a perspective book.
Perspective is at the very base of all drawn art (unless your name is Jackson Pollock), and yours doesn't have a single thing drawn in 3d.

>>3606871
she took the neck pill

>>3605835
fun is the point for 99% of us anyway, but that looks cool anon
>>3605871
cool
>>3605938
you're right about the forehead looking bigger at that angle but thats a five or maybe a sixhead
>>3606010
brap
>>3606012
this is nice reminds me of some of that old dishonored concept art
>>3606284
the likeness is ok, you can tell who it is but its not perfect. I think it may be that the eyes are too big and maybe a bit high.
>>3606643
I love you. Did you ever finish the one you posted last time?
>>3606680
this looks nice anon. Maybe some contrast.
>>3606770
flower?
>>3606871
practice

>>3606407
started this painting

>>3606879
My constructive critique is that you need to draw naked dudes and women to understand what's actually going on there. Don't even bother with color

>>3606909
gotcha, so about the color, do you mean that I should learn to properly draw and don't worry about how to color?

>>3606916
You need to start thinking in terms of spheres and cubes and general planes, and how light reflects off of them to create form.
>Measuring
>Perspective
>Value
These are the things I would focus on as a beginner.

quick sketch

>>3606949
copy that

>>3606949
copy that

Does it need anything?

>>3606982
could use those contour lines to define shape better also how is the lower jaw attached to head?

>>3606986
thnks
and like this

>>3605716
Nice study. Cool brush.

>>3606892
Looking sharp. Would look sharper if you popped it into PS and pushed the values, so that it looks as good as it does IRL

>>3606982
it needs a BG

>>3606905
You should finish more of it before you post. There's not really enough here to comment on.

>>3606680
the bottom third gets a little foggy for my taste. I love the texture on the vest. wonderfully subtle.

>>3607042
the beard look like little horns

>>3606841
>>3606892
>>3607020
Alright, thanks.

This is about two hours of work

drawing in the street.

>>3606741
https://klinckfoster.tumblr.com

>>3606892
>I love you
Are you sure you are not taking me for someone else here? But thanks for love i guess

WIP. Using Procreate Pocket. Any critique is appreciated

>>3607510
stop being lazy.

learn to keep your palette clean.

Is the shading okay?
Also is there a way to rotate your drawing in SAI without it screwing up your image resolution?

>>3607020
good idea
>>3607569
are you that anon who drew the knight in the forest from last thread? I know you drew that translucent skull woman so I love you anyway

>>3607616
This just looks like the oil paint filter lol

Here's something I finally decided to linework, fixed up some stuff from an /ic/ redline, gonna color too, but I have a few questions: I'm thinking of adding her whole sword, and I dunno if the composition looks better with the whole sword and her pushed into a corner, or more like the original drawing where the sword is cut off but she's centered and fills the page. If I did the first I might try like a bloody trail/splatter behind the sword as a background element.

Also, If I draw the whiole sword, how the fuck do I do the perspective? It's supposed to be like "Cloud's Buster Sword" without the holes according to the character's creator, but the angle on the tip of the blade is messing me up. Any tips? I tried to figure it out on the right to no avail.

>>3606284
his right wrist is super tiny but his right hand is bigger than his left

>>3607020
the thenar doesn't petrude enough and top of the hand where the fingers join shouldn't be straight, even if you've got an extra finger

>>3606095
IIRC the rule is that if the full size looks good but the thumbnail is strange, it's overrendered. And if the thumbnail looks great but full size is blah, it's under rendered.

I'm a pleb, someone correct me if wrong.

>>3607600
not sure what you mean

here's this finished

>>3607737
i think the background needs work, the foreground is very nice tho

>>3607707
I like how it looks with the sword but you might want to do something with that negative space

>>3607707
Try googling 'tanto blade' for a reference on the general shape. Most will just show a tanto blade pocket knife laying down but you can find a few at different angles. Or maybe you can find a YouTube video with someone discussing one and moving it around.

>>3607746
Yeah, like I said I was gonna do like a splatter motif behind the sword then maybe like a zig zag blood trail behind it in the negative space.

Any idea how to get the blade shape right at that angle?

>>3605662

>>3607737
nice, it's weird how, to me at least, the attention goes all stright to the background. i think it's because is less worked, with brighter and more defined colors, more substance, and seems to be in focus while the interior is kind of blurred.
was this intentional?

>>3607820
It's an aesthetic Degas explored in his most successful works. Chromatic backgrounds and grey, midtone foregrounds

>>3607737
i know everyone hates you for some reason but i think this is good, although I'd like to see you paint something with a more interesting subject matter. two average looking ladies sitting in a café just doesn't seem interesting enough to warrant a nice painting like this. nothing wrong with it but its kind of meh.

>>3607836
yes, kind of.
but notice how degas, at least in this painting, uses an almost monochromatic background, with a cold tone, blurred forms and "messy" brush strokes, while the figure in the front is really well defined, with bright and well defined colors and strokes, and the attention goes first to the front.
in anons painting i feel almost the opposite, like if the background is coming in through the window panes into the interior, and sits almost behind the figures.

and i'm not saying that is bad, just asking.

>>3607844

>bryan

or

>booby

etc


attempts to replicate van goghs style, his work is nothing to admire its lazy and unispired, uses black for shadaws, no sense of color theory,brags highly about his work, commonly ignores good critiques or tips from the community, generally just another idiot who tries too hard.

>>3607844
>bryan
you're talking about Jimmy not Brian. Brian trolls anonymously.
> his work is nothing to admire its lazy and unispired
Name 5(five) other acrylic meme painters from 4chan ill weight.
>no sense of color theory
I have a sense of it I just goof on it. Geez.
>attempts to replicate van goghs style
Not necessarily. Just racing him.
>brags highly about his work
I "brag" about my "work." I'm proud that I make an effort even if it results in a failure. And you learn more from fucking up and you learn why rules exist from breaking them. I honestly don't understand why you dorks struggle so much with that.
>uses black for shadaws
used blacks for shadows in year one. Now I'm misusing whites.
>commonly ignores good critiques or tips from the community
But I literally don't. I respond to everything and when I get practical critiques or tips I apply and them work them into the schedule and everything.
>generally just another idiot who tries too hard.
t. just another iamverysmart.png asshole that tries nothing and justifies it to themselves.

>>3607699
don't use black to shade

Looking for any kind (or not so) anon to take a mock-up for a tattoo I'm considering.

Concept is Hitchhiker's Guide, the Sperm whale and bowl of petunias. I'm looking for part (or even one of them) to be a minimalist/architectural sketch and the other to be a lineless blob of colors. Toyed around with both myself and can't really say I've liked either -- so I'm open to interpretation.

Thank you to any takers.

>>3607900

see what I mean?

this is brain in a nut shell. total idiot.

sketch

>>3608068
true goblino!

>>3608094
I'm drawing with a friend now down the road I'm trying to spitball theamactic pic.

>>3608068
breddy gud, dig the style
>>3608089
the area between the eyes is shaded a bit too hard

Portrait study

>>3608100
Yeah bad smudge job even smudged out nostril :|

another quickish sketch

How much you pay me for this

>>3606010
>>3606012
the way you paint skin is weird, i like it

Can so done help me with this pose before I go any further.

>>3608191
The right leg needs to pivot outwards to look like its trying to keep a balance.

I'm learning to use Copics, so I made a quick practice piece and I'm slowly rendering it. Am I doing well with these textures? The shoulder armor is supposed to be like a boiled leather I suppose. The light source isn't super strong.

It's my current DnD character.

(The pose and armor is shamelessly stolen, though the inking and such is me, so I can't take credit for any of that. The focus was on the Copic use.)

>>3608212
Get off ic or your skill will start to degrade. You need to evacuate. Right now. Close the tab. Block the site. Get OUT.
But yeah pose is incredibly boring but the linework is very good and the perspective is well donw, I like the shading on the cloak and armor

>>3608214
I don't spend much time here, though I think that might be a tad dramatic. Yeah, the pose isn't amazing, but I couldn't find a cool reference with a heavy crossbow I liked. I had a lot of fun with the lineart. Thanks.

Any feedback on this drawing.

Took about a hour to draw, didn’t use a ref.

Any tips on working less messy?

>>3608221
It looks really good to me. I envy this kind of ability.

With my limited knowledge, the only thing to really get less messy with this I'm assuming kind of quick flow sketchy-ness you got going on is to do it a lot.

Maybe take it outside and work on some life drawing in this style to get the mileage.

painted one of my characters earlier. took about 2 hours off and on between other doodles
original character is a comic strip-esque cartoon so i challenged myself to go more "realistic" with this

>>3608228
I really enjoy the mix of realistic and old-school comic style. Good job! Would love to see a graphic novel in this style.

What do you guys think about taking inspiration from having dumb conversations with friends and trying to make said theme, is it dumn?

??

Pls no bully

>>3608232
Im open for taking inspiration of everything, but drawing something originiating from an inside joke will only end in a limited audience fully understanding your intentions

>>3608280
Read this.

https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/think-with-forms-not-lines-take-your-drawing-to-the-next-level--cms-24486

>>3608540
Thank you

>>3605716
too dark

>>3605746
really nice, clean, smooth lines. good job.

>>3605770
typical diversity art. keep pandering to niggers.

>>3605835
muddy, sloppy, but good attempt. keep pushing yourself

>>3606268
cool

>>3606284
shit, just shit

>>3608280
give up. >>3608373 you too

>>3608639
Some Constructive criticism might be nice bra

>>3608639

Well argumented mate! Thanks for your input.

I'm not any of those guys you critted but boy oh boy... You don't seem to know anything about anything. We'll be waiting for you here when you turn 18...

>>3608639
hahahaha

>>3608639
ebic, simply ebic

>>3608089
Calm down with the eyelashes it's like a ring of fur

>>3608221
Are you just straight drawing in pen? I think if you don't have a means to correct any slightly askew marks it would always be a little messy unless you get so pro you just dont make mistakes...I'm /beg/ though. I'd love to be able to draw something this complex in ink and not fuck it up

>>3608639
tfw even shitposters ignore you

>>3608639

>>3607708
I didn't see that before, but now that you've pointed it out, I totally do - thanks a bunch!

I just got back to drawing after taking a long ass of art break. I see myself kinda suck at picking colors. And this is my newest commission for a friend for his DnD character tiefling bard. Can you guy help me with some colors suggestion?

>>3608845
Oops forgot the pic

>>3608845
>>3608847
> Can you guy help me with some colors suggestion?
I like the linework a lot. The colors could go anywhere really depending on what you want to do, but I thought I'd suggest something dead simple & uniform, like this. Just a thought!

>>3608845
>>3608847
> Can you guy help me with some colors suggestion?
I like the linework a lot. The colors could go anywhere really depending on what you want to do, but I thought I'd suggest something dead simple & uniform, like this. Just thought something like this would work well with the linework.

I'd like some critique on this. I'm trying to be careful not to lose all contrast, but it's tough given dark armor on dark feathers and I only have the 6 Copic Sketch sketching grays.

>>3608860
Attached is how I would proceed. A lot of your gradients are 'pillow shaded', meaning you're not really applying the values in relation to an established light source. Consider leaving a rimlight on the edge where you just let the paper show through, and go in a establish your value groups 1 value at a time.

Any tips on how to make horror or "creepy" art? I've gotten really interested in it lately but it's tough to really put my finger on what gives it the effect

>>3608858
The thing is he wants the character to have a kinda dark blue skin so tried to put down some options like these but I still cannot decide lol

>>3608870
Ah, I'm working off of a ref, just...really not used to the blending and such of Copics so it's kinda gotten away from me. I appreciate the mock up.

>>3608888
Originally I had rim light but I fucked it up ;_;

>>3608895
White out or white goache my dude.

>>3608871
There was a thread on this maybe within the last week. Search horror art or something in the archive.

>>3608919
I so need some guache and I wonder if the gummy stuff used for watercolor would work here too. I do have a jelly roll white pen. That should do it.

Want to put muscles on this, any bones look off or can I start?

I think the feet are probly to small, and the hands just a little wonky, I'm considering redoing it on a lightbox though and I'm looking for any suggestions for the second draft, or lots of suggestions, the more the merrier.

>>3609015
not gonna lie i dont really see the point in going into so much detail for the skeleton of the figure if your whole plan was to flesh it out from the beginning. a much more simple frame wouldve worked, and it helps to focus more on gesture in that stage and work out the kinks in proportions/anatomy a bit later in the process.

A head study for a character design c&c is welcome

>>3609282
very nice, I like pretty much everything about it though I'm not totally sold on the ears

messing with face shapes again :|

>>3609351
I like the vents but the lines could stand to be a lot harsher. Don't do the ic thing of letting your pressure curves start out remarkably soft.

drawing a thing for my gf

>>3605953
i really like it

>>3608352
if it wasnt for the title, i wouldnt have known this was a skull

>>3609282
the perspective doesnt match up. the head is turned slightly more than the body with no sign of it showing in the neck. his left eye shouls be showing more and his nose should be a pyramid not a triangle.

the colours are good but it could use more range of values, lighter highlights and darker skin tones. he looks too smooth for the type of character he is, there should be splotches, hair and marks over his skin.

its a good concept though, the shapes work well

Library doodles

>>3609277
The whole idea was just to practice anatomy through drawing bones and placing the muscles on it, not to have a finished figure drawing.

>>3609477
His point is still kinda right, you could have drawn a much less detailed skeleton to add the muscles to, but since you're digital and have layers, and you've already drawn the skelly, there's really no issue. Just in future it could save you time, if the idea is just to get the muscles right.

>>3609484
Alright thanks, I'll try to do that the next time.

>>3609428
>if it wasnt for the title, i wouldnt have known this was a skull
Hmm, it did not seem too abstract to me ... But maybe you're right.

>>3609015
Legs look too long in comparison to torso. If it’s meant to be overly stylized why even work from the skeleton up anyway

>>3609575
I made the legs long since I tend to have the opposite problem of making them too short.
I'll probably shorten them a bit, but keep them closer to idealized human body rather than the 7.5 head.

final
>>3607700
no knight isn't mine if u are talking about the one with orchestra and shit, I have miles to go to get on this dude level but thanks for compliment anyway

>>3609251
Hands, feet, and upper body all way too small

Wanted the dress to be sparkly.

Xeno Gokub

I think it sucks but I don't really care.

>>3607377
this was a good art if not traced

>>3607377
>>3610222
Bruh the shapes are so simple in that why would it need to be traced? Colorpicking would be a cheat but even then it’s basically monochrome.

>>3609945
Would’ve liked to see more value range in the face but I guess you didn’t want to take away from the drawing. Highlights at least?

shit quality pic, but here's some more quick ones. I gotta figure out how to apply my paint thinly without scrubbing for an hour.

>>3610071
moer value range. choose better photos to paint from. breddy good meme though.

>>3610050
like, sparkly irl, or as if the dress were sparkly and the pic captured it? dip a bright in some thinned titanium white, then carefully pull your finger back along the brush so it "flicks" specks of paint. I think you pretty much just need a "line" of specks along her thigh to give the sparkly impression.

>>3609979
real nice.

>>3610415
The flower could use some work but these are awesome. You at an atelier?

little venom sketch

>>3609270
pretty good

Not really sure where to ask this so pls no bully

Anyone use Sketchbook Pro? The website says that it's free now but when you scroll down to download it, it says "7-day trial" and then "Autodesk ID required after that." Does an ID cost money? I'm interested in it for the copic brush set

>>3610482
Yeah just download the thing and then make an ID, it doesn't cost money. They just want you to register for the free program now.

Have fun :D

>>3610494
hell yeah, thank you

;-; oof help me out I guess.
I’m a hobbyist, and I’ve never taken art classes so idk I’ve never been given a critique before

>>3610534
resize your shit before posting it next time.

Off the top of my head, the neck having no detail at all gives the impression that her head got cracked sideways by a mortal kombat finisher move. Ear is too high up. Her face is all kinds of fucked up. The chin and ear look like you wanted to attempt a straight on side shot, but the eyes want to be 3/4ths looking to the camera, but the shoulder makes her want to be twisting away. It's all over the place. She also has a tremendous overbite. The connecting point on her chin and bottom lip should not be that far apart. Where her far off eye meets the helmet, it looks as if her head begins to curve back as soon as you get past the eyebrow. It should go upward a bit before beginning to curve to the cranium.

>>3610540
Yikes! Why the fucking attitude?
Calm down.

>>3610545
Leave here while you can

>>3610547

>>3610545
How did I come off like I had an attitude? I just crit'd you like I'd crit anyone else. Was it the profanity? Do you have any clue where you are? If something looks fucked, I'm gonna tell you it looks fucked. But overall listen to >>3610547. This place is a trap.

I drew a male hooker as part of a request for a friend irl. Can ic help me out and critique it please.

>>3610569
It was the utter attitude in your word usage not just the profanity.
If that’s your “critique” then by God, I hope you’re not a art professor and hope you’re just another edgy guy.
No one wants to listen to a catty man.

Nah. I’ve lurked long enough. This place is chill. You’re just a dick, but dicks are everywhere on the Internet.

I was hoping for a real and genuine critique, but I suppose I expected too much from 4chan. Oof definitely my bad.

>>3610572
I like this drawing. I think you just need to be more consistent with the light source. I used the light on his left forearm as a base source. It looks like you've actually got some well defined planes, so try to think more about how the light would hit them if coming from his left side. I did a crappy redline to hopefully give you an idea.

>>3610572
1.) I adore this; he looks so cute
2.) I know it’s just a sketch, but you could try to make his muscles less- what’s the word- round? It looks like a mix of muscle with fat rolls? Sorry, I’m not the most eloquent person; therefore, forgive my awkward wording. His sides and lower half excluding below the knee look a bit too bumpy.
3.) also I feel like his left tricep could be a bit bigger in proportion with the rest of his body, ya feel?

>>3610580
>wants crit
>gets crit instead of generic "its shit" like most of the board would say to you
>WHOA MAN SLOW DOWN JEEZ DONT BE A DICK :(
What did you want me to say? You want me to lie to you and suck your dick and tell you
>looks great, but maybe move the ear a teensy weensy itty bitty bit down next time!
lmao dude get off your high horse. I type the way I would say it to your face in real life and you're the only person to ever take it as "attitude." And I guarantee you don't use faggy ass words and phrases in real life like you do on here. I didn't realize you were made of glass, which is an odd change for this board.

At first I was telling you to leave /ic/ for your own benefit, but now I'm telling you to leave for the benefit of /ic/ overall. Since you're going to stay, go to /beg/ where you belong. You are garbage, and if my crit was "too harsh" for you, put the pen down and/or really do leave this board. You're not gonna like what the rest of the industry has to say. Literally ngmi.

>>3610604
Man, who hurt you? If you act like this in real life as you claim you do, I wouldn’t be surprised if you had no friends desu. Fix your attitude. You literally sound like a 15 year old edgy kid from 2013 who just discovered FilthyFrank (no offense to him; Joji is a blessing- you,...well, you are a bit too emotional for my taste).

>>3610604
“Rest of the industry”. I literally said I’m a hobbyist. Art is just a hobby of mine. I already have a career. I’m just here to have a good time with my art, my guy. It ain’t that deep.

>>3610619

Different anon but. Dude seriously. You're the one who's in the wrong here. He gave you an honest, to the point crit and you're complaining? You're just the worst.

>It ain’t that deep.
>I’m just here to have a good time with my art

Don't ask for critique if you can't take it. You should be really thankful that somebody would take the time to analyse your amateur drawing and give you proper feedback. Be honest with yourself. Are you really complaining because you were expecting a more positive crit or because of the other anon used swear words? Either way, you're clearly in the wrong here. There was literally NOTHING that I could point to in the original crit that should offend you in any way.

Anyways. You're the "emotional" one. You're the one acting like an entitled 15 yo. Go to the beginner thread and stop being a namefag. It hurts my eyes to read your comments.

>>3610619
lol act like what? Give people solid advice and just happen to use profanity? Have you ever spoken to a veteran? To an elderly person who has seen some shit? Do you get this offended when you read cuss words in books?
>fix your attitude
there was no attitude, and really still isn't. Learn how to actually take criticism. I was genuinely trying to help you and I post crits in /beg/ a lot, to people who are significantly more grateful than your entitled ass. You asked for a crit and got one. But it was "too meen :(((" and now you refuse to actually own up to it because people outside of your facebook friend list know that it looks like shit and didn't pat you on the back so you'd rather try to tear me down even though everything I've said is true. I don't know what else to tell you since you were clearly here for an ego stroke and you're upset you didn't get it.
>asks for crit
>gets it
>doesn't like crit
>man, who hurt you?
what kind of retort is this? All you do is dodge the facts.

>you literally sound like a 15 year old edgy kid from 2013
funny, you sound like a literal neckbeard tier disgrace. I can see your fedora as I read your posts.


>>3610622
Oh, my mistake, let me help you out
>>>3608538
Don't quit your day job because you definitely need it.

I'm trying CSP coming from Photoshop because you people shill it so hard. Cool tips for the program welcome.

>>3610642
sharing this just because it took me a long ass time to figure out. If your lines seem fine but then suddenly become really jagged for no apparent reason, go into File, then Preferences, and the top box with Wintab and Tablet PC in it will have an option chosen. Sometimes it will randomly switch by itself. Just switch it back here and press OK. Try this before you suspect it is your drivers, should anything go wrong.

>>3610639
Did you just compare an edgy /ic/ critic to a war veteran?

Guys, please just be nice to each other... Don't make your critique sound like you're just trying to bring someone down. There are so many nicer ways to communicate the same things, but you choose to be an asshole, and complain about being called out on it.

feel free to add to this new meme for /ic/
bonus points for guessing the trad fags.

>>3610419
thanks man! yeah, the flower is rough; it came out better than I expected because I pretty much went in like "I'm not going to put any effort into this one".

I'm not at an atelier, but I've spent all my study time trying to emulate what I might be doing at one. life drawing, cast study, etc.

Ok i have my favs in this thread.
>>3609979
Those concepts are awesome. I almost wanna steal them >_<
>>3607377
Great job on the clouds
>>3606407
I liked the thumbnail, and when i clicked i couldn't believe it's the same image! I like the composition and how you work with colors.

Pic rel is a sketch. Trying to add more storytelling to my illustration, maybe gonna add one more character? Idk

>>3610926
Omg im so sorry, i thought I resized it.

How is my painting?
Its very limited cause im using corel painter, i cant stand using PS

>>3610889
I can tell you from experience that anything you can do at an atelier, you can do at home if you're willing to critique yourself with honesty and be resourceful. Dogmatism runs deep in the neoclassical circle. You're better off. Hope you'll keep posting here.

Current outlines for a painting I'm working on. Horror theme based on Bobby Pickett's 'Monster Mash' track

>>3608540
alright i red it

>>3610545
That was actually a really good and constructive crit with a lot of specific things pointed out to you.
He didn't even say it was shit or link /beg/

did a landscape

>>3611454
and a portrait

>>3611249
Thanks bud. I agree, dogmatism is definitely a thing in the atelier circles.

Then again, when I think of dogmatism I think of some instructor being all "you can't even buy oils until your charcoal work is immaculate". I skipped some steps on my own, but I can tell that it shows in my work. It seems like the more time I spend on mind-numbing exercises, the more easily everything else comes to me. Like that flower, I didn't bother to measure out the glass or anything, I just humped it all onto the page and it came out way better than expected. Probably because I've spent 200+ hours on casts.

>Hope you'll keep posting here.
I try to quit all the time, and sometimes I manage a 6 month break, but I'm more or less here forever. I can trace the roots of my drawing knowledge back to this board. While I've definitely gotten way more from other places of late, I may not have found those places if not for advice I found here.

Y'all I apologize for the late reply anyhow let me respond.

>>3610583
Thank you so much for the feedback, your outline really helped me figure out how to properly place light on a figure and think about the direction of the light source.

>>3610587
Yeah I feel you and you're right I did fuck up in alot of places, I tried breaking down the model pose with shapes but as you can tell I still need to grind down more fundies. Though I appreciate you pointing out the flaws and giving me constructive criticism.

>>3611454
>>3611456
>>3611241
>>3611360
>>3611296
>>3610927

dis is gud.

Favorite thing I've drawn without a reference but I got fucking mugged so I have no phone to take a full picture of it. Some closer pics to see more details https://imgur.com/a/P6OrSth

Didn't see a /beg/ thread. Doodled while playing pubg and battlerite in between matches from ref.

I just downloaded paint tool sai, I dont draw often and I dont own a stylus. so i did the best I could with my mouse and basically just free styled and I know the anatomy is probably off a bit, also im not good with faces.. what are my obviously weak points and how do I improve?

>>3611766
>>3611769
Old one was autosage so here you go.
>>3611792

>>3611360
Genuinely so much better, keep practicing. Draw more humans, and learn anatomy so you can draw these guys better.

alright, im from /v/'s new bowsette trend and that got me picking up drawing. Ive drawn a couple of things and some feedback have been good but few and far between.

in the latest one im planning on redoing bowsette hair but i dont know what people meant by the clothing on peach feeling too bodysuit like(by that i mean how would i go fixing it). Also i think i might have put bowsette's shoulders too high. Got some other pieces too if people wanna see them(for feedback ofcourse)

Currently drawing a more lighthearted thing but while i am id like feedback please. Also the power of the d is terrifying, making me do something productive in the name of lewds.

Sup.

Still not finished tho, trying to find where to place the darker tones and fix the circle (duh) and other stuff.

I genuinely had no idea what was i doing the whole time.

What d'ya think, any tips?

I have something I'd like commissioned, and am willing to pay for it.

Anyone feel like making a few bucks today?

i stopped this because after hours I still could not find a fitting face and I had lost all momentum...

>>3612231
forgot pic

>>3612233
now im trying with this

>>3612230
nope

I painted this man in a field

I think this is it. Not perfect, but it will do (i guess).

Any feedback is well recieved.

>>3612383
I know i posted a lot but damn these gradient maps do make a difference. Still don't want to get too used to them.

Anyone knows a good way to color from grayscale?

>>3610572
Keep drawing, I see much potential in you

How am I doing so far

>>3612528
Pretty well, unironically seething right here. Your drawing looks more like my classmate than the one I did looking at her picture, I guess you were better at simplifyng facial features while I went a bit overboard with the detail. Your drawing will be a great reference for me to draw her face.

>>3612423
this is great
>>3612528
like the pose but its a bit boring overall sempai

>>3612528
HEY APPLE

>>3612684
Thanks anon, appreciate it

>>3605716
>>3605746
Curse you two, I have nothing to say.

>>3605770
The thumb's nail looks a bit angled away. Try making more of it visible from the pov.
Also, starting from the wrist and upwards should be much wider than the rest of the arm.

>>3605835
The scene slightly confuses me. The bike appears to be moving as can be seen from the exhaust and rotating wheels, but the rest of the bike seems to lack the motion blur. If she's just revving it up, the exhaust shouldn't extend so far. If she's skidding it, there should be an indication on the street (such as a dust cloud), and the exhaust should be pointing to the side.
tl;dr: The art isn't bad, but the action scene isn't really set up well. Needs work.

>>3605871
Cool art, but the neck and ear seem to be lacking in shading detail, like they're illuminated alone for some reason, making them seem flat. Add a few subtle gradients like you did to the face, and it should be golden.

>>3605953
The ears are too high. Put them a little bit lower than eye-level.
Add some shade to the gums or make them look detailed, your choice.
I'm assuming you meant for the teeth to be comically oversized and not correctly numbered?

>>3606010
The left foot is angled too far to the right.

>>3606012
Move the belly button to the center.

>>3606680
Straighter ears?

>>3606770
Flower with flat crystal petals?

>>3606871
The neck is too thick for the head it's carrying.

I would like some pointers on this one I did a few days ago, if you have the time. Not sure if this is the right thread to ask or I should go to beginner or stylization or what not. I rushed the tones and the sky background stuff.

>>3606012
Like the overall silhouette but the palette you are using makes the body look lifeless and the strokes used, feel like she is wearing some tight full body suit, like there's wrinkles. It's a bit messing with my mind lol. Interesting though.

>>3606284
Hands feel smallish for his head. The forms/volumes you use to mark the placement of what I think would be trees are repetitive and boring, but maybe are just placeholders. I would still go for something a bit more interesting even if just being indications of volume and mass.

>>3606407
Colors are nice but the shapes need hierarchy and structure, only works as a thumbnail right now, up close too much stuff overlaps nearby shapes, makes it hard to see what is what.

>>3607569 Really nice so far. Love the lines.

>>3606680
Looks nice, maybe play with the hands a bit for the gesture? Tell a story.

>>3606770
Flower, or one of those things you spin, or like a cocktail umbrella.

>>3606923
Too many curves, they make the hard surface stuff look wobbly, also the perspective is a bit wobbly too I feel. Try to combine more angular, hard edges with the curves.

>>3607377
Love it. I can never do studies like that with such shape control.

>>3607510
A bit muddy and the colors are kind of greenish, not sure if it's a camera thing but it looks sickly. Or maybe that's intended.

>>3608886
Why not just do a bunch and let whomever asked you for it choose? Go bold with the options, maybe you narrow it down after some input from that person.

>>3609251
Someone else pointed it out but yeah, there's a huge proportion problem between upper side and lower side, but there's also problems with proportion in smaller areas. The lines are nice, except for the hair, need to work on those.

>>3610927
Posting some progress on this piece... Hope i can finish before the thread maxes out

>>3612423
you should first do the the whole process manually, from sketch to finish and then after, try to automate the steps inbetween

dont let the computer make decisions you dont fully understand

Been painting this all day. It looked kinda gay in the end (by accident I swear! I was referencing models with glasses, so that must be the reason).
Critics please? I'm used to drawing lineart & in b&w but had been binging on books & tutorials on painting for a while now.

>>3613118
It's finished. I don't feel like improving this piece, but can I hear suggestions about what I could do better next time?

>>3613227
i like the style but the colors seem a bit monochrome with only slightly different values and hues in you violets and greens

also instead of one point of focus, you provide many different (tree, woman, gecko) which are conflicting in their importance.

so the eye keeps scanning your piece for that unique attribute but it can't be found.

elaborate on your work process please

>>3612528
is this traced?

>>3613227
Good shit anon. I echo the other anon: choosing a more decisive focal point would strengthen this piece.

>>3613229
Not OP but, is having multiple points of focus is such a bad thing? What if I have 2-3 things that are equally important that I want to depict?

>>3613229
Thanks Anon! Maybe it's a little crowded up in there, I tend to overdo things. >_< Think you're right about the colors. I tend to strive for only a couple of them in one piece to get that linocut print kinda result, but I think it's starting to affect the depth (as in, it flattens out the picture too much)...

What can I tell you about my process? I use Procreate for iPad pro. I do a sketch like this >>3610927, and pick the palette (admittedly I abuse coolors.co to give me ideas, pic rel). Then I go back and forth coloring flat surfaces and shading/outlining them.

>>3613232
>is having multiple points of focus is such a bad thing?
well if you think about it, there is only one center of attention at any given time for a human. not two, not three.

you can however make the multitude the center of attention. (eg. duality of two points)

>>3612157
It looks extremely flat, there's a lot wrong, you're better off heading over to /beg/ here
>>3611797

>>3613217
Some of the fur shades are nice, but the strokes are boring. The eyes glowing like that flat, are off-putting. The proportions and alignments of the glasses rim shape, snout, nose, mouth are falling apart. No inner ears form definition.

>>3613229>>3613231>>3613227
I don't see how you say the gecko conflicts as a focal point, not OP btw. But for the color scheme the gecko clearly fades with the rest of the scene, even being in the foreground. If anything the girl and the tree are in a tug of war, but only because of shape and size, being so similar. I would put the tree away, behind the girl.
I would probably say bring a different color scheme for the girl to stand out, but white does make her stand as a thumbnail, not so much up close due to a same green shade, maybe warm those colors up.

>>3613238
Any tips on brush strokes? I was just trying to follow the shape of the surface.
Now that I flipped the canvas, I can see that the proportions are crap. Guess I need to be more patient on the drawing/construction phase?

>>3613238
OK that does it, I definitely need to introduce more colors/shades of colors to my drawings to avoid that sort of problems...
Thank you for the critique Anon, very appreciated

>>3613241
With fur you need to be more subtle, following the form is fine but try to work it out more into bigger and smaller shapes/forms, with those brushstrokes it just makes everything repetitive and flat, you lose the volume.
Well, proportion you improve by working on it, I guess keep on working is all you can do.

>>3613252
Oo, thanks for the tips Anon, I wasn't very thoughtful about how fur suppose to clump into varying shapes. Was just stuck thinking about the head shape in general.
An anon also commented about how my brush strokes are repetitive on my previous painting. Hmmm.. need to look into that I guess.

>>3609469
You got to slow down a bit while drawing and practice cleaner more intentional linework. There are some good lines in there, but also a lot of ugly ones. Some places are also a little bit too chaotic. If you keep it up and practice the other fundies too, i think you'll get where you want to be.

Can someone explain me how to render stone/scale/rough textures, I always draw cell shaded stuff but I really wanna get out of that habit since it could make this drawing that im working on much more interesting.

I basically want the skin to look like this

https://imgur.com/a/LxJw6pc

any tip would be much appreciated

>>3612303
Can I buy this?

Drew this for a /V/ Drawthread, i feel like the coloured lineart version kinda turned out poorly in comparison to the sketch

>>3613306
looks good anon. you should go to polycount.com its better to ask there if you're a more intermediate artist/

you will meet a ton of artists better and on the same level as you.

>>3613796
>>3613306
the people here are literally all retards with the exception of me and a few others.

>>3613227
that's dope

>>3613290
I want to fuck that girl desu.

This week in "i don't have any fucking clue of what i'm doing just follow the trend".

I got honorable mention at a big-ish show

>>3613853
Sorry forgot to resize

>>3613854
That's dope anon

>>3613854
>mentioned after a lady who painted the Geico gecko
Nah that's pretty cool

I'm getting closer to the exaggerated look that I want, but It still feels like I got a long way to go. Also, I stopped studying the lower half and back at some point.

study of Chrysès, by Michel-Ange Slodtz

>>3605662
Just finished coloring this one

>>3613886
>>3613860
>>3613788

/beg/

>>3609251
Nice clean style. I would lower the waistline to about where the index finger sits on the hip to balance the upper and lower halves of the body, and maybe look up a hair tutorial. Otherwise, well drawn overall.

>>3613970
Looks awesome! I would use a different hue for the candles, maybe more orange, and add reflective light to nearby objects to make those light sources pop more. Thumbs up!

>>3613290
>>3613833
Thanks I was aiming for that reaction, lol.

>>3613886
Better to focus more on using primitive shapes and construction lines to build the figure like the drawing on the left, before worrying about details and shading like on the right.

>>3613306
Treat what you have now as more of a guide, then start thinking like a painter going forward. Get rid of most of your linework by painting over it, and use brushes with pressure set to opacity. Think about edge control with your marks instead of the binary this is the flat light shape, this is the flat shadow, etc.

Texture brushes are a must. Play around with them to find ones you like. You can get away with 90% or more of your painting using a chalky texture brush that has good coverage. At a normal painting size its texture do its thing. You can shrink it way down and use it for fine lines and details. You can enlarge it to the point it seems unreasonable, and paint lightly on a separate layer to incorporate some macro textures. You can adjust the opacity of this layer, or the blending mode, and then on another opaque layer on top do some more painting.

A lot of it is playing around and experimenting, seeing what happy accidents occur, then reinforcing them. You'll need to spend time zoomed in defining your tiny forms, thinking about convex and concave surfaces, the direction of your light sources, etc.

Try not to go overboard too. Push the textures in the focal points and along the terminator. It's good to even paint over and remove some texture in areas that don't need it. Zoom out often and make sure you're improving the piece and not destroying the read of the big value shapes.

Do studies of alligators, rocks, etc and apply what you learn. Find artists on artstation doing paintings similar to what you want and so small focused studies of portions of their work.

Pic related is a 10min proof of concept. You'd obviously want to spend more time than that building the right texture you want and cleaning it up. Save texture for after everything is laid down.

When you post the final, shrinking the image then applying a sharpen filter to the focal points will make the textures look better.

>>3613989
I'm not that anon but thanks for making this board a better place.

>>3613853
>>3613860
Before anything else you need to up the contrast, and no I'm not talking about the amount of value you use to render a form, but the whole image having both bright and dark areas.

>>3613971
I guess

>>3614061
Thanks anon, i'm still having trouble with that, the thing is that with that grey tone her skin doesn't look white, but a darker tone instead... Still have trouble playing with lights and skin.

>>3614063
If you find that to be too dark for light skin, then I think you gotten too used to light skinned characters being pure white in manga.
Her skin right now matches the mid tone of the picture. Also fair skin can be very dark if the person is placed in a dimly light area.

>>3614063
>>3614082
Here is a quick example.
Even though this refrigerator is very dark around the 30% value, it still appears white, since it is so much brighter than everything around it.

I feel like I'm fucking up somewhere but I can't quite put my finger on it, feed my back pls. First time really trying to make my digital stuff look more traditional, but what I'm worried about right now is the colors/construction/anatomy/whatever.

Also, should I make him look younger or push the older look instead? my mind is still between both and that's bad. Whatever I go for will affect the rest of the painting, like the hair, so I'd really like to read your opinions first.

>>3613970
Blog?

>>3614177
This is nice, anon. The first thing I notice is that it seems like you stopped rendering the face from the bottom of the nose/ears down. See how the flesh tone is cooler, lighter and greyer from the bottom of the maxilla down to the neck and traps? You need to bring the warmer, darker colors from the top half of the head down to match the rest of your skin tones, simply put. You'll have something pretty nice if you do that, imo. Other things I would mention are the shadow of the cape being too dark, and the harsh shadow on his left (our right) brow bone. Think about how the brow bone (suprorbital ridge) follows the curve of the eye socket (orbit). It's in the name - supraorbital, or above the orbit. So that plane will follow encompass his actual eyebrow more, along with that one stroke being softened substantially, but you probably know that. Hope this helps, and keep it up.

This was just some adapted reference on Paint so it doesn't have any artistic merit but I liked how it ended up looking so here it goes, I think it's pretty.

>>3614193
This is absolutely a WIP still and everything that's not the face still needs to be worked on, like the neck, but I agree with everything you've pointed out. I got carried away rendering the face but I'll definitely bring those tones to the rest of the painting. I hadn't even considered thinking about the brow bone and how those planes would actually work, really solid advice there, thanks a lot for the feedback!

>>3613217
This is awesome, Keep it up anon!

The muzzle does look oddly flat/sucked in though.

>>3614082
>>3614087

Interesting... and useful info. Yeah, probably got too used to manga as you say.

Thanks for the info anon, will keep it in mind for the next one!

>>3614178
@camotronico

>>3614596
Very impressed with your stuff, Anon. Hoping I can get on your level one day

Mirror self portrait I did with Faber Castell pencils (for reference).

>>3613970
I always liked very high detail drawings like this, I would like it if you took it further and added more eye candy in the form of legible writing on the book spines or interesting interactions between the clutter (such as the ink vial being spilled over one of the rolled open canvas, or a corner of the rug being turned up a bit by the step ladder being pushed against it).

>>3614633

Is there certain limit to how much and for how long my will can be attached to a drawing. In this case, making every corner and every object meaningful, and avoiding making filler spaces was the real challenge. I doubt I can spend a single minute more looking a it for a while now haha. But thanks for the comment

>>3614639
No problem, and I just meant for your future drawings is all, I certainly wouldn't suggest anything else be done to the one you posted. The progression of your work in my mind or at least the suggestion I was trying to visualize is something akin to those old "I Spy" books, where all these miniature objects play with each other in interesting ways that absorbs you in the image for a long while.

not quite there yet... someone tell me whats off here pls

just quick lifesketch

>>3614680
And one more

>>3614652
The biggest problem is that you pushed the neck off the mid line to the right, causing you to further damage the pose by move the right shoulder even farther, dislocating it.
Other than that, don't exaggerate the small bumps at the elbows and knees so much.
You also made the top curve of the foot end to suddenly.

>>3614774
damn thanks can I work with that?

>>3614826
Sure

I think it’s time for me to move on from hard tip round for everything

I can't draw anything apart from abstract bullshit like this

>>3614894

Study fundamentals and rise above

Why are eyes so hard ffs

WIP on a selfmportrait, its on a pretty big piece of paper, anyone got any tips on finishing it?

>>3615101
Check it in a mirror. Your eye is fucked bruh. Push your values and use them to imply lines instead of drawing them.

>>3614900
Br?

>>3614177
blog?

quick painty sketch i did in class. lighting is a bitch

sorry potato phone camera :|

>>3612423
I think this looks great. The reddish-brown gives it a more demonic eerieness, although it is subtle. Good work.

Arms look a bit out of proportion, her left hand looks a bit awkward. Her fingers seem too long. I know it's a reflection but her face seems to indicate the reflection is coming from the right handed as opposed to the displayed left-handed direction. Keep it up anon.

Would greatly appreciate some crit or help

>>3615425
use a harder brush
work with shadow shapes
work in planes

>>3614680
>>3614689
there's some markmaking that isn't to my taste, and the woman's left eye is borked, but overall these are really nice. Good work, keep up the practice.

>>3614633
switch to charcoal and work a little bigger. All-around, it's a better medium than graphite for the kind of work you're trying to achieve.

Start studying bridgman and going to life drawing sessions. Otherwise, draw from a mirror. You're approaching the point where you've gained all you can from copying photos and you'll start developing bad habits if you keep it up.

>>3611456
Why aren't you gradating the lighter wall in the background?

Surely you see that the business of the brushstrokes looks amateurish and even if deliberate, detracts from the more obviously deliberate business of strokes on the figure. However, knowing you, I feel like it was a conscious decision and I'm curious what you were thinking.

>>3615489
bigger and harder brush to avoid those jagged value changes or to prevent myself from over rendering?

>>3614886
today's doodle

>>3615622
best grill

>>3607020
>>3607713

Tried to follow your advice on the thenar. Nice word.

>>3614498
Love the crispness of the overlap in the central reeds, but the water doesn't read as clearly. Beautiful subtle palette, too.

>>3615622
bleh

>>3615194
tnx for the feedback dawg.

With the eye you mean the unfinished one or the finished ones.

also i'm having trouble with making value planes with this charcoal

ahoy

>>3614689

>>3616107
Nice

Trying out this flat style

>>3613989
original poster here,

thank you so much Im sincerely glad that you took the time to help me out. sorry for the late reply, Ill post my final version once done. Thank you again it means a lot to me.

Started a while ago, finished yesterday

Spent 8 hours making these value scales for future visual reference. They're almost correct; getting a perfect 50% value distance is difficult.

The "middle tones" on the left are pretty closely matched IRL, had to modify the photo so my whites weren't blown out.

>>3615529
The latter. Its all blened and soft to death. Try to get the appearance of a soft edge while only using hard lines/strokes. Its less about blending and more about chunking/wedging shapes of subtle value shift. A good painting does need some smooth gradation, but way less than you're employing. Keep at it though.

>>3610841
Brian
Chunking or whatever his name is
Illastrat

Idk the one in the upper left.

>>3615928
dope

I drew that McDonalds chick from The Fifth Element