/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3601911
(1/2)

>>3601911
(2/2)

My 2nd and last try doing anything in person - too boring.

>>3601911
you sound really self-important

>>3601921

Fair enough.

But after reading and finally posting in the improvement thread, I see no need to mince my words. Very few on this board are genuine.

>>3601911
>Why?
Because you percieve depth more clearly in the real world, and that translates to a better understanding of forms in the drawing. Sounds like a meme but it really works.

But yeah, if you find training boring, and you don't want to do it because of that, I can't convince you that it's fun.

Also, a lot of what you said sounds like a bunch of racionalizations to convince yourself that even thought your drawings suck, you still are "special" and "talented" in some way.

>>3601933
>Racionalization
>Rationalization

You must be an intellectual.

>>3601911
And the point of this thread is ?

>>3601953

Nothing I'm just salty no one can say goodjob :(

>>3601911
>>3601957
I think you did great. this >>3601914
looks really good and it sounds you have fun drawing and iproving, so why not? Its a nice and attractive hobby

>>3601970
Ur my favorite and ily

>>3601942
pointing out typos is literally to worst form of comeback. if you are OP please go, this honestly just seems like a thread to brag about your little time vs fast progress. cool man, who are you helping? are you seeking approval? yeah, your pictures look good. just ask what we think of your art next time, we don't need a novel about your intangible, intuitive ability. there's no need to be insecure, if you like your art, get on with it regardless of some anon, if you want critique, ask for critique.

>>3601911
you look gay as fuck and you give up easily

>>3601914
guess you better go back to copying your pretty photo collection, boo hoo!

- Illashat
- Jimmy hobo meme lord
- Chunbun
- Brian
>*drum roll*
>and introducing
- pre-med faggot (!)

what a time to be on /ic/ !
the quintet of delusionals

>>3601914
boring? this doesnt look so good my guy, and thats probably why you need to start doing it more. your stuff seems to only be successful when you copy from a pre interpreted image

>>3601987
be gentle. the truth hurts the baby boi. ---- >>3601957
>Nothing I'm just salty no one can say goodjob :(
see?

>>3601986
chun and brian have actually shown some skill in the past so im not so hard on them for experimenting. im only sad that brians shitposting like a maniac now :c

>>3601978

I asked for criticism a few days ago.

I got - "lmao, that's shit anon."

I posted on r9k and got better crits from normies

"You should fix your shading there, it isn't as realistic as the rest of the drawing."

Giving critiques goes a long way when you aren't blinded by insecurities and constantly practicing self-transposition on other's ambitions.

>>3601987
I agree, I doubt you could create this though hahaha. This was my first attempt at doing a landscape and I didn't even add charcoal or give any sort of realistic edge - I fucked around. This was probably 6+ months ago too.

>>3601982

I smell anime tiddies.

> *sniff*

oh god, he's a digital artist

>>3602000
>I doubt you could create this though hahaha.
thinking that nobody can know or be better than you is going to hold you down, bud. gl

>>3601995
>"You should fix your shading there, it isn't as realistic as the rest of the drawing."

literally here ---->
>>3601821
>then you drew a hazy dropshadow on the edges that looks way too even.

"No I don't like you people cause you are meeaan!"

>>3601911
>Drawing from real life is boring
>Posts suspects like a sketch artist
Is this an APB on the lookout for Faggot McCuckingston, and do we shit on his Dunning-Kruger threads and posts for barely having any skill, OP?

>>3602000
>I fucked around.
yeah we can see that. it's not great.

>>3601914
"too boring"
yeah guess you can't into landscape, buddy. too bad!

>>3602001
i really love how you come up with assumptions and insults and they are always completely off.

>>3601989

Just give me a hug man :(

>>3602003
I don't think that, there's several people on this board that are extremely impressive. I just think the most aggressive/bitter artists on here are usually the worst.

You and jimmy need to stop corn cobbing

>>3601995
The go to r9k mate.

>>3601933
this

>>3601911
You should worry more about pushing your values and your mediocre hatching than the toothless mean things anons on this board might say to you. Also you seem like the kind of person who talks about themselves nonstop while those around you look on uncomfortably.

>>3602112
> toothless mean things anons on this board might say to you.
not toothless and only "mean", if you are a sorry little snowflake. the reason why the tone is not nice anymore is because this kid here thinks he's some genius who fell from the sky and, as you suspect as well, he's an egocentric prick on top of his hubris.

>>3602112

I'm introverted and rarely hang out with people.

>>3602129
You're not introverted you're just an autistic ass hole

>>3602132
ring a ding ding

>>3602132

I was a captain of a power lifting team, people love me. Top of my class in everything. Socially gifted in every single medical practice I shadow in. (Physical therapy and nursing in particular). Nurses PTs and other physicians said I was exceptionally gifted with people. Patients missed me and enjoyed my company.

I'm pretty solidified in my "delusion" dawg.

The only thing your choice of insults reveals is your own insecurities and self-deprecation transposed onto me.

I don't feel exposed.

>>3601942
They probably speak English as a second language and it's racionalizacion in Spanish. Also pointing out an obvious ESL mistranslation/phone autocorrect is not a critique of someone's intellect, it just means you dont have a real argument and also have never studied a second language.

>>3602146
>coming to a board called Artwork/Critique
>posting this

My nigga

>>3601911
Alright now draw his body Mr. Doesnt Need Practice.

>>3602146
Is this copypasta?

>>3602161

I could easily copy someone's body.

But I know you guys are against that. Copying someone's anatomy from memory would be some really hard shit.

>>3602163

hahahahah no it's not. I'm just that much of a fag.

>>3601911

>Why? My ability to analyze what I am seeing and create has increased tremendously.

These are pretty good portraits, but they're also very clearly photo-copies. If you want to be able to draw from imagination, you need to be able to see the images on your paper as 3d forms, not 2d shapes, and life-drawing is the best way to get good at this. Copying photos teaches you how to accurately transcribe 2d shapes from one 2d surface to another, and that's fine and you're good at that, but it won't effective teach you how to draw from imagination, because to draw from imagination you have to be able to conceptualize your drawing as though it were an object in space, not just a flat shape.

>But after reading and finally posting in the improvement thread, I see no need to mince my words. Very few on this board are genuine.

A lot of people on this board never post there work, because why would we need critiques from the sorts of people who post in the improvement thread. But I've seen some amazing artists here.

>>3602146
saved this for later

>>3602193

I agree with this and receive your criticism and will adjust.

>>3601911
drawing from life is boring as shit
if i have to draw a lamp or a random npc one more time im going to fucking run someone over

>>3602132
those arent mutually exclusive things

OP you should invest in a therapist.

>>3601995
Okay, I'm >>3601933, and I don't know what you are on with all that "blinded by insecurities" stuff.
You asked a question and I answered as succinctly as possible, the final paragraph was merely an observation. You didn't ask for a critique of your drawing. I don’t know what more you want.
And for the record, I only pointed out what was apparent by what you wrote: you have a higher esteem of your ability than what your works alone suggests. That's why you feel the need to accompany you work with so much text about yourself, if you didn't think that it would "add" somehow to your work, you wouldn't say it. Plenty of beginners have the same mindset, pointing it out it's not an attack or anything.
And even though we can all agree that /ic/ is filled with crabs, neither my post nor the other posts in this threads are particularly "aggressive" as you imply in >>3602016

And, as you seem to be quick of discredit anyone that says a negative thing about you as “not as good as you so your opinion doesn't matter” ( >>3602000) , pic related is my work. The first one is a painting made after studies from life that I made on vacation, and since you seem to discredit digital art too ( >>3602001) , the second one is a graphite drawing from a year ago.

Also:
>>3602147
Yeah, this was the case.

good job OP
I'm a slow learner but i'm seeing some improvements.

Is this the special needs thread?

>>3602653

You're better than me and I enjoy your style.

OP here.

I respect where you're coming from because technically you're better than me and imaginatively you're also better.

I just find it cancerous when people purport your opinion purely on theory rather than actually being good. Telling me I'm not reaching my full potential while drawing stick-figures just does nothing to me. However, your art does impress me.

>>3602759
wait, so even if someone is right, they are wrong, just because they cant draw as well as you?

>>3602759
>>3602760
i need to elaborate on this a bit. you have clearly reported that you have some sort of natural, innate talent when it comes to this. so despite this, you think the opposite is impossible? that someone knows more than you but doesn't have the born talent to pull off the same work as you in the same amount of time, their knowledge is lesser? internalise this for a bit. try to get past the cognitive dissonance and then tell me why i'm wrong, if you feel that way.

>>3602760

It's not that they're wrong, I just do not respect what an art peon thinks of my work. When someone criticizes me stylistically, fundamentally and universally without being able to do half of what I do. I view it as an insult. I do not ask individuals who are worse than me for advice, simply because they rarely know how to describe what they're saying.

They know what good art should be at an elite level, they understand the full context of art but they're nothing more than fan-boys in my eyes. They apply a standard of perfection and grand-mastery to me when it is unnecessary. I know I'm not the best (even though I've been saying troll shit). All I wanted from the board was for people to meet me where I am at.

Instead I wasn't met where I was at. I was responded with, "yeah, pretty cringy and shit, you should draw form life more, put that on your fridge and start creating real life."

So yeah, now I'm just having fun with the ruins of this dead board.

>>3602766
What critique do you fucking want buddy? You're an intuitive artist who just copies photos. Do you have a drawing process? Construction, contour, gesture, blocking in etc. etc.?
If no, there is no critique anyone in this world can give you to help. You copy photos intuitively. All you can do is keep doing it.

If you do have a drawing process like the rest of us, then most people with knowledge of the same or similar drawing process can give you good critique, and you should take it. you just have a huge ego, that's all. you're a bit of a cunt as well, but so are most people here, and i could excuse that if you weren't so wrong.

>>3602775

I've never developed a process. I've never used grids, I've never measured, outlined, gestured, I've never done anything but draw what I see. I find drawing processes boring and they ruin the excitement for me.

I suppose I just expected people to critique me technically rather than imaginatively.

>>3602777
alright fine, you can draw, you learned to draw quickly by copying photographs, congratulations.

what's step two, what's your actual ambition? do you even have the energy to continue making art?


the real reason most people who are serious artists learn to draw from life instead of photos is that it takes longer. you've already screwed the pooch by learning from photos, so you could stop now if you wanted to, your work is never going to develop beyond what you're showing us here, so what do you plan on doing with it? more of the same?

>>3602786

I think my art could easily develop from drawing from life. I've seen vast improvements by utilizing photo-bashing techniques.

I'm not an artist, I don't want to do this professionally I view it as a hobby.

I'm the med-fag as they call me.

>>3602777
How can you get technical critique with NO TECHNIQUE? How would you use it? All you can do is render more photorealistically, that's it my dude. Does that help you? You don't have provide the reference of your drawings, how do we know how accurate it is? You're a useless individual to anyone but yourself at this very moment, and we are all useless to you. This conversation and your art are both useless to all of us, bar you. But then, what use does this conversation even have to you?

>>3602790
nigga I know, what i'm saying is you rapidly developed your drawing skills by copying photos, the easiest way to learn to draw, that problem with that is that greatness in art comes from learning over an extended period of time. If it takes you 1.5 years to learn to draw your aesthetic skills don't coalesce naturally, you just learn to measure things. If you had learned by drawing from life you could've spend 7-10 years learning to measure while also building up your ability to aesthetically create works (composition, color, value, line)

Instead you simply have the mechanical skill of getting measurements correct, which is fine, but you aren't doing anything with that skill, because every other thing that actually matters about art hasn't improved in those 1.5 years

It takes artists an entire lifetime to actually learn the skill of making good art, learning to measure is 1% of the actual work involved in being an artist. It's the bare minimum.

You just fucked up by learning the bare minimum too quickly so my question is still: wtf is your plan now?

>>3602790
>I don't want to do this professionally I view it as a hobby
>I'm the med-fag
No, you're just a fag. You don't deserve critique and you don't deserve your own thread. Go back to /beg/ and stop spamming your shit everywhere. Fucking dunning-kruger pseuds.

>>3602793

See, this is the disconnect. You all are aspiring to be like the greats, and I could give less of a fuck.

lmao, this is what I needed.

>>3602796

I hope your parents are proud of you

>>3602766
>I just do not respect what an art peon thinks of my work
Yet, you said that /R9k/ gave you good critiques, while also calling them normies. So which is it? Does the level of the person giving the critique gives sole value to the critique or it doesn't matter?
Hate to sound like a crab again, but it's pretty obvious that you liked what normies said because they also praised you while giving a critique.

>>3602777
As for a technical critique goes, I assume most people don’t want to give you one because you are at a level where it should be pretty obvious: you have poor value range, poor composition, and very muddy shapes that affect the readability of the drawing as 3D, derived from the fact that you are copying blobs of shadow without understanding the shapes that create them. So yadda yadda, fundamentals. Go watch a portrait critique by proko and 90% of the problems he highlights, you have them.

Also, the ability to copy photos it's not so amazing dude, I achieved that in a year of practicing. And I did better than you are doing now.
As long as you keep trying to convince yourself that you are a natural talent you won't improve enough.

>>3602790
>>3602793
also say what you want about me, it took me 8 years to learn how to measure, but I've developed plenty of aesthetic skills in that time, I've learned color, line, value, composition, and I'm still developing those now, but don't think just because you can measure and freehand as well as me that we are equals as artists. You are almost hopelessly behind when it comes to all of the other artistic skills required to be a good artist.


But hey at least you can freehand measurements. Big deal. So can I. If you find the other paramountedly more important aspects of art boring, and don't want to cultivate them, then why are you on this board? To tell other anons that you can measure things? Who cares?


Most of what /ic/ cares about is intangible, finding a style, etc. We aren't impressed by your abilities because the people who are here who can't measure as well as you or I are busy developing other skills.


You made the mistake of thinking there's less to art than making art. It's not a competition to see who can copy what they're looking at the best, there's much much more to it than that.


You don't even experiment in other media, you just copy things with a pencil and try to make everyone else feel bad for not being as rudimentarily uninteresting as you. We all have ambitions much larger than what you think we care about.

>>3602801
Dunning-kruger
>>3602803
Dunning-kruger

Glorious /ic/ monkey v monkey cage-fight

>>3602801
>See, this is the disconnect. You all are aspiring to be like the greats, and I could give less of a fuck.
I'm struggling to think of a response to this because it's so stupid

>>3602803

I agree with most of what you said

> We all have ambitions much larger than what you think we care about.

That's where I think most of you are blinded. Your ambitious attitude embodies you more than where you're currently at in art. Some of you are so desperate to be the best you've embodied the attitude of what you imagine the best would be like.

I have anything against you, I think you're a good artist.

Since the majority of you are attempting to be 100% original and emulate the greats, I can see why you highly dislike my style. However, I have had as many people involved in the art world greatly appreciate my art even though it may not be as original as other creations.

I get where you're coming from though.

>>3602808

I have never taken an art course in my life. I do not think you understand who you're talking to. This is my first week on this particular board.

I rarely draw, I never watch drawing videos. I am not invested.

>>3602810
yeah I mean Im not saying you haven't cultivated the skill of measuring things, it's just that that's a finite skill and once you learn it that's pretty much all there is in those terms.

You either measure it right or you don't, it's pretty black and white. It's all the stuff revolving around the measurements that's where good and bad art is defined.

I get that you don't have ambitions for this outside of the basics, but it seems really stupid to say "and I never will". What if you want to take this further some day? That's more my concern. A lot of artists on this board develop the skills periphery to measuring and never develop beyond that because they don't take the time to actually learn to properly measure things. But you have the opposite problem, where you've developed the basic skill required to create artwork, but you did it too fast. I'd be more concerned with you finding the motivation to develop this further than what you have now if a day comes where you decide to take this further, say when you retire.

If I could give some tangible advice to you going forward it would be don't fall into the trap a lot of artists like yourself fall into which is escalation. Don't continue to complicate things by just adding more things into images. Don't be like "In the last piece I had 5 images collaged together so for this one I'll have 15". That's a dead end. You're better off staying with the level of complication you have now but focusing more steadfastly on things like composition, line quality, and pushing values.

The most famous example of an artist that learned to measure things early on and never took it further is Kim Jung Gi. If you look up his work you'll see what I mean. He's trapped himself artistically by escalating every image into further complicated compositions, while never actually developing his skills outside of measurements. You'd be better off keeping things simple than brute forcing the aesthetic skills you need.

>>3602810
So have we now established that the reason you are not getting the critique you want is because you have no tangible technique to improve on, but also that you deserve none of our respect?

>>3602810
also look up odilon redon's work on wikiart. He's probably the closest thing to your work in terms of aesthetics. might be worth 15 minutes of research just to see where your art could if you take the time one day to cultivate your skills further. Try not to dismiss it entirely because it's "one of the great", don't be so detached.

>>3602818

You're right man. I think this is some of the best art advice I've ever received. I will absolutely apply your ideas and methods.

Thanks man.

>>3601911
>>3601912
>>3601914
For me personally in almost all of those art improvement threads artists develop technically but lose all their creativity and end up making mediocre art that is just technically correct. It isn't important that you draw everything in the same way like you see, there are cameras for that. The meaning of art is that the artist shows the world like they see it, not just realistically. Even hyperreallistic artists choose objects and compositions which characterize them. But I don't think that hyperrealism is very much of art, it is more like a gimmick.
In your case, your first picture was better. Don't learn to draw what is physically there but what you would like the world to be, what you see. Exaggerate some things and don't draw others.

>>3602818
>>3602822

Dunning, meet Kruger

Here's a barometer. Let's see who's who.

Do you think pic related is a good painting or not?

>>3603273
its ok

>>3603287
nice ambiguity you got there. Don't risk being specific cause your ignorance might show, nice pro tip thanks.

>>3603320
nigga is "it's ok" not sufficient? you wanted my opinion. it's average. okay. decent. I think it's alright. it's not my favorite painting, it's not my least favorite painting.


If you reveal to me that this painting cured cancer or committed genocide I guess I'll have egg on my face.

>>3603327
>doubles down on his retarded answer

>>3603341

It's a painting of some Fucking apples? How far up your own ass are you?

>>3601911
breddy goodkeep grinding. You're ready to move to funner mediums tbphwyf.

Do what you want.
>hy are most people in this thread malignant and dogmatic in cringy ways?
they sux dix and buttz.

christ, I'm sure this whole thread reads like a study on autism

>>3603370
Do you know seamuswray?

>>3603416
know he's a reddit guy. Interacted with him once back when he first started posting to the always sunny subreddit.

I was working on pic related and got bummed when I discovered he beat me to it. Now he's expanded into all the memes and getting all the upbananas.

>>3603367
I didn't post the pic dumbass

>>3603370
thats some reverse progress. just looks like she has a million wrinkles with all those lines or like raw muscles. regardless its pretty fucking ugly
4/10

>>3603419
jimmy who the fuck is this seamus and why have you been pretending you were special this whole time. Did this whole thing start with you being upped by seamus on reddit, so you migrated here and unleashed your butthurt on this board? you were just a butthurt faggot this whole time asshole fuck you

>>3603454
sorry if this was too harsh, I know you got problems with negative comments

>>3602653
Anon you don't need to waste your time with OP. He just wants attention. Thats the whole point of this thread. Just let him ramble to himself.

Why draw at all then? Just photobash. You can print them out afterward.

>>3602803
peak aesthetics. its obvious you care more about your ego than your art, you but no care into making pleasant things to look at. your lumpy armed Sid-from-Ice-Age drawings are disgusting.

>>3603657
hey man. brians been there and back. i think he'd admit hes being real lazy recently, but thats because his work is focused on different things now

>>3603664
nice post brian

>>3603327
>>3603287

guy who posted the pic here.

If you don't think it's at least 'good'; you're mediocre.

>>3603370

OP here

Which medium would you suggest I move into next?

>>3603453

You're fucking stupid. He clearly made progress. He ventured into a much more realistic realm and painted more details that he is now able to see. I would easily say the painting he produced on the right is much more complex and exemplifies his ability to further see shapes/textures.

Suck a cock you faggot

>>3603273

OP here

I dig it, drawing form life is very difficult.

You obviously know how to paint.

Although, why is drawing from life always so boring? Even though that's a good pointing, it seems still-life is just as boring as my photobashing.

>>3603883
>if you don't praise me and agree with me, you are mediocre
got it, Mr. Guru. teach us, all knowing master!

you assess a piece based on many aspects. pic related is a random seashell drawing i pulled from google, because OP likes realistic drawing so much.
what have we got? detailed, but a little hazy in places. spacially, the floor tiles are ok, the shadow all over is ok, but the shell joint in the front seems undecided - the dynamic of the drawing and smudging doesn't sculpt the shape really well, can't say if or where the curve is going; inwards or bulging outwards. thematically, it is simple, just object drawing. quite prosaic. the composition however is ok, as the shell and the shadows provide for a dynamic that is at least decorative and balanced.

cont.

>>3603908
cont.

>>3601911
med-fag has copied two selfies. first is probably from the selfie cam, second is (my guess) selfie in the mirror. both are showing the typical lense distortion that you get when you copy photos. quality of the photo of the drawings is shit, like always. just a grey, smudgy mess of a photo ("hey it's because i'm not taking it seriously, like you losers, hahaha!"). i think that with a decent scan, you would be able to see that the forehead wrinkles are really awful, like the chin. the hair in the second drawing is smudgy and flat. at the neck, you can see the first layer of his tiny pencil marks, how he increases the levels. compositionally, they are centered, dull selfies. face is too bored to be calling them "mugshots", but the allover impression is similar. ignores the neck, no background. left doesn't even have ears. the structure of the hair in both is childish and flat. same as people who have little practice at drawing will be unable to draw leaves in a tree - just too much detail and no skill to generalize or render it in an abstract fashion. so they end up drawing individual hair, but without any space. med-fag is trying hard to copy values. everything else is crippled.

good enough for a thorough assessment, med-fag? is it "mean" again? does it make you wanna write "give me a hug" once more?

>>3603901

this >>3603370 here left and right shows that he still has no idea about the shape of a hand.

>Suck a cock you faggot
don't project your desires on others, anon.

>>3603912
>>3603908
med-fag here. My only posts in this thread are this one, the "mediocre" one, and this post.

post your work

>>3603918
i already did, dickhead. the hooded guy with the hands to his face. since all you can talk about is photo-bashing drawings.

>>3603912

OP here

I wasn't the one who posted the apple painting.

That was someone else.

>>3603918
Lmao, you're not med-fag you nigger.

I am med-fag lmaoooooo

>>3603920
Also, hooded man with his hands in his face was awful, as I said.

>>3603913

I'm more concerned with overall improvement. Face is an improvement. Hand needs some work.

Sorry :(

>>3603454
> Did this whole thing start with you being upped by seamus on reddit, so you migrated here and unleashed your butthurt on this board?
no. I started in May 2016. Started the Dennis >implication in March 2017. Would have interacted with the Seamus guy around then?

And he started just doing Always Sunny memes. It looks like he's branched out into all of the memeschlock market recently? idk. Not really my concern.
>you were just a butthurt faggot this whole time asshole fuck you
nah doggie. Implication is just one painting that has the story of being connected to the Seamus feller. I don't give a shit.

>>3603913
no u

>>3603930
with your pseudo-pointilistic schtick, you are basically just filling the flat shapes. a bit like those coloring books for adults. look at his temple, shaped like an asscheek.

>>3603922
>was awful, as I said.
>I was shown that other people can photo-bash at ease
>must say "it was bad"
not as shit as your teenage weltschmerz selfies, bud.

>>3603936
like MY asscheek?!

>>3603936
like MY asscheek!?

>>3603947
all i see is that you have very little idea how to sculpt depth with your colors. accute trace-itis, so to say. but you won't stop tracing, i'm sure about it. too lazy.

in your case, even putting the photo on fullscreen and painting without grid, tracing or other aids would lead to improvement. you'd maybe eventually get an eye for spacial aspects of painting portraits. but you're too comfortable with tracing. constantly using artistic crutches like that will make end up with deeply ingrained mistakes that are hard to shake.

>>3603921
i'm not talking about the apple painting at all in >>3603908 and >>3603912. moron.

>>3603899
hmm acrylic is cheap and easy if you want to do paints. Or you could get into chalk and/or pastels or colored pencils or whatever. Pastels would maybe be satisfying since you're getting into shading and schmearing and gradients and stuff.

>>3603954
>all i see is that you have very little idea how to sculpt depth with your colors.
not me though. I see a bunch of faces.
>accute trace-itis, so to say. but you won't stop tracing
I mean graphite transfer is technically different than tracing ya gnome sang. With tracing the image is on the bottom and the tracing paper is above it. But with graphite transfer the image is on the top and the graphite paper is on the bottom.

Plus I'm not doing either of them any mo. That was all for the first year memes. Which happen to be all the ones I reworked on in August

> i'm sure about it. too lazy.
everything started meow is grid or freehand.
>in your case, even putting the photo on fullscreen and painting without grid, tracing or other aids would lead to improvement.
sure. Essentially everything leads to improvement.
>but you're too comfortable with tracing.
Can't untrace shit I started in 2016.
>constantly using artistic crutches like that will make end up with deeply ingrained mistakes that are hard to shake.
Or to put it another weigh, got me a novel aesthetic?

>>3603962

aaand another thread hijacked by the dickhead ratman.

>novel aesthetic?
as in, amateurish, flawed aesthetic? yup. novel? no.

>>3603965
>aaand another thread hijacked by the dickhead ratman.
lol what an ebin troll.
>as in, amateurish, flawed aesthetic?
yep. like if we look at the RLM oil painter on /tv/ and the seamus bozo on reddit, they're kind of doing the exact same thing. I thought the RLM guy was the Seamus guy at first because they both just focus on making standard style oil paintings.

They both have interesting flourishes that they do but idk it's more boring 2me that may. There aren't any other meme painters focusing on forcing Acrylic to comply from a place of belligerent ignorance.

And I like how much it annoys the RLM guy every time he shows up on /tv/ in my threads.

>novel?
yup.

>>3603984
>>novel?
>yup.
nope. autistic therapy painting --- now featuring the poor mans' van gogh pointilism that is executed on a level of childrens coloring books. "i just fill all the background with brush strokes that circle around the head outline, doo bee doo bee doo! and it requires so little concentration, i can listen to pewdiepie gameplays and alex jones podcasts on the side."

>>3603984
>lol what an ebin troll.
people keep telling you what an absolute fucking avatarfag and asshole you are when you post your shit without any connection to the thread topic. you just ignore it. you are a true dickhead and you shill your shit like spam mails about viagra.

>>3603962
the problems with your "pseudo van gogh dots" boils down to your inability to create and render space in any of your paintings.

>>3604007
Like I posted one thing that was for OP. Basic encouragement. Then I get one guy asking about the Seamus guy, one guy just talking shit, and OP responding. I like that it's always my fault that I respond to everyone.

Like what are you contributing to this thread with this post? How are you not just exacerbating the problem that you're upset about?
>>3603993
>"i just fill all the background with brush strokes that circle around the head outline
hell yeah.
>and it requires so little concentration
Which is good I have pretty intense ADHD.
> i can listen to pewdiepie gameplays and alex jones podcasts on the side.
I'm thinking of doing the pewdiepie Nigger meme. And I already did Alex Jones. But I have a variety of entertainments that I keep on in the background. Often just the news. But sometimes it's RLM friendship simulators or like I've been barreling through the show Shameless the last few days.
>>3604027
Eh I disagree.

>>3604197
>Eh I disagree.
i know you do, bc you have no other way of seeing things. in other words, you don't have a trained eye to assess art.

>>3604200
no hes just a shitposter with autism. now please stop replying to him

>>3604197
>Eh I disagree.
i know you do, bc you have no other way of seeing things. in other words, you don't have a trained eye to assess art. if you did, you wouldn't have to deal with these obvious flaws or sperg around in defense of it. "no, my style is reeeally good! you are wrong!"

>>3604202
got it. it's tiring anyhow. beating a dead horse.

>>3603937

Your crying in the hoodie drawing is literally just cringe.

It's good for you and it's nice practice. But it's not imaginative and it lacks even half the technical ability I have.

You're shit at attempting to do what I do.

>>3604007
>>3604027

I thought everyone on this board just hated me.

Why does everyone hate Jimmy? He seems to be one of the nicer people on here.

>>3604203
>i know you do, bc you have no other way of seeing things.
No I mostly just don't care about the things you care about brah. The strokes on the sleeve for me were a spearment in movement and how the eye moves around more than they were about space or fucking perpective. And I'm more pleased with how they turned out than I was before I did them. So it's a net benefit. So I don't really care about your critique. Means nothing.

And like the whole "non-space background" critique I'm generally super fine with. Adds a whole lot more labor hours for something done for free in response to anonymous "commissions."

>>3604223
you are blind to the mistakes you make, is what i'm saying. and just to clarify, before you go sperging around that it's "Brian" or "one person" responding to you: this >>3604209
>>3604224
is not me( >>3604027 >>3603936 >>3604127 )
get comfortable with the fact that there are more than two anons on this board at a time.

>>3604214
Your shitty selfie drawing is literally just cringe.

It's good for you and it's nice practice. But it's not imaginative and it lacks even half the technical ability I have.

You're shit at attempting to do what I do.

>>3604221
>I thought everyone on this board just hated me
that's the thing, think about it, you don't know me or the other anons that come here for art and critique, the ones you do know are the people that come in here and starts talking about themselves in a very loud manner. Why do I know who Jimmy is? because he uses this board to get attention to his person, not his art. Same thing with OP, why make several threads about yourself? why should I know who you are? post your work and get your crits. If we know who you are on this board, you are probably some sort of sociopath.

>>3604223
what did you say about my artwork?

>>3604239
>If we know who you are on this board, you are probably some sort of sociopath.
fuggin true, mate. this could go right in the sticky, lol.

Hey guys, medfag here, I'm shooting myself because of these mean comments and if anyone else posts under my persona they are an imposter

>>3604236

NIgga, my selfie drawing was something that was just to measure technical ability. Fag boy

>>3604256

NIgga, my hoodie drawing was something that was just to measure technical ability. Fag boy

Hey guys, medfag here, I'm shooting myself because of these mean comments and if anyone else posts under my persona they are an imposter

>>3604252
u fuggin lil' shit.

identity theft is A CRIME

all is well and good if this is for you and your own enjoyment.

but, it's boring, you show no real mind for ideas. so, probably not for general art consumption let alone for commercial purposes. as you were.

>>3604266
Sounds like something a butthurt IMPOSTER would say

>>3604373

i'll suck your mom's dick

>>3604235
>you are blind to the mistakes you make
eh mostly just accepting and indifferent about them. Wabi sabi brah.

And what the fuck are you saying? You're not Ratface or Brian? Ok. And why are some in parentheses?

>get comfortable with the fact that there are more than two anons on this board at a time.
Never said there were. Doesn't negate the fact that it's the same poindexters over and over.

>>3604239
>that's the thing, think about it, you don't know me or the other anons that come here for art and critique
Yeah because it's mostly /beg/ tier kids who are terrified of having their fee fees hurt by malignant strangers.

> the ones you do know are the people that come in here and starts talking about themselves in a very loud manner.
I posted in this thread talking to the OP. The same assholes as always turned it into attacking me because they're pathetic and I'm a strawman for them to project shit at.

>Why do I know who Jimmy is?
Because someone doxxed me mostly. I was just meme painting anon for the first year.

> because he uses this board to get attention to his person, not his art.
Art is a prop. Van Gogh only became famous after death when hart dealer brother and family and stuff started publishing his letters WITH his stuff. His character is arguably as important as the props. I say "I'm racing Van Gogh" to normies and they ALL jumped to "you're not cutting an ear off are you?" He's famous for being a lunatic.

>why should I know who you are?
Why should anyone know anything about anyone? Donald Trump used to pretend to be his own PR guy to get newspapers to talk about him. He is an inspiration in forcing people to know who he is in spite of ever caring about him. And now he's President!

>post your work and get your crits.
Or, just hear me out. I do that while also arguing about art and mosting my reaction images. I made them from 4chan might as well post them to 4chan while I'm here.

>>3604239
> If we know who you are on this board, you are probably some sort of sociopath.
Yeah and you say it like its a bad thing. Neurotypical, easily flustered cucks without personality disorders generally aren't ever driven by anything enough to be successful or notorious or anything else. You just sit around anonymously judging and speculating that anyone that is "known" must be like so crazy omgosh.

And yeah the reality is that you have to enjoy being abused to be a repeat offender here. Most of you fucking cowards post your shitty animu anonymously once, and either get ignored or insulted, and then fuck off like the slithering bitch cowards that they are.

>>3604480
>>3604495
the usual 12 paragraphs of bullshit... You are a sociopath, not an artist.

>>3604571

OP here, how the fuck do you perceive Jimmy to be a sociopath?

He doesn't insult you, he doesn't go on diatribes to attack you. He just responds in a logical format and discusses his personal art goals.

His art goals are completely different from mine and I don't care. It seems like random ass anons genuinely care about his preferences.

This board is genuinely pathetic and hilarious at the same time. The fact that social mores are applied, ethics and an overall hierarchy is fucking abysmal.

The internet is the wild west, quit with your discussion of morality and ethics. You're reading letters from people you don't know. Puss boy.

>>3604619
First of all, you are a sociopath as well. And you sound like Jimmy with your disdain for this place. It's like having guests that loudly proclaim they hate your place and everyone in it, yet they won't leave.

>>3604632

> It's like having guests that loudly proclaim they hate your place and everyone in it, yet they won't leave.

The fact that you refer to this board as a dwelling place or a residence Is fucking cringy.

Grow the fuck up man.

>>3604639
You get a sense of community when you frequent a place for a while. Hard to understand for a sociopath, I get that.

>>3604654

Maybe if it was a tangible place with tangible members I'd get where you're coming from. You only feel a sense community and safe here because it's anonymous. That's the only way you can be comfortable. Which is kinda lame man.

>>3604660
>a tangible place with tangible members
which century are you in?

>>3604663

You don't know anyone on this board. The only people you know who are consistent are "sociopaths."

Some home, buddy.

Go outside.

>>3604667
I used an analogy to explain how you come across, don't get carried away. You enter a community claiming everyones attention while also offering nothing but shit to the people who use this board regularly.

>>3604685

I think the fact that you care is strange.

>>3604686
both you and Jimmy fall back on this "4chan is a shithole anyway" argument when you are called out for being assholes. A pretty pathetic excuse imo, cause it implies you use moral highground as a justification to be disrespectful to strangers.

>>3604571
>You are a sociopath, not an artist.
are you implying that sociopaths or people with personality disorders can't be artists?

>>3604785
sociopathy isn't a personality disorder

>>3604690
>both you and Jimmy fall back on this "4chan is a shithole anyway" argument when you are called out for being assholes.
You dicks "call out" literally everyone for "being assholes."

>>3604786
It literally is. It's the foundation for cluster B. Don't speak from ignorance anon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

>>3604786

Anything deviating from the norm regarding personality is classified as a personality disorder. Especially if it renders your ability to process emotion - Jesus Christ.

>A pretty pathetic excuse imo, cause it implies you use moral highground as a justification to be disrespectful to strangers.

How does that display a moral high ground. If my argument is, "4chan is a joke, you're even more so a joke for caring", then I am not implying a moral high ground. I am using an apathetic high ground.

>>3604785
no. I'm saying you are here as a sociopath not an artist.

And I am probably using that word wrong, if it even is a thing. I am referring to people whose main motivation in everything is their own person. For instance, they are not interested in art in itself, but only as a "prop" to get attention and validation of their self, which is their highest priority in everything. If somebody quickly takes up a lot of space in a social setting, especially if they have nothing to offer except trolling, goofs, tricks, props etc... they are usually driven by a need for attention, which implies they have an unhealthy amount of focus on their own self.

>>3605157
>no.
si.
>I'm saying you are here as a sociopath not an artist.
I mean a sociopath is going to be everywhere as a sociopath right? Can't really stop having a personality disorder.

>And I am probably using that word wrong, if it even is a thing.
You are, it is not really a thing anymore. They used to call them Psychopaths, but that kind of linguistically implies just a general pathology of the mind, so then it became sociopath. As in a pathology in your social abilities or whatever. But then like psychopath it kind of became an insult that lost it's diagnostic porpoise so the DSM established antisocial personality disorder, which is what it currently is.

Like "sociopath" and "psychopath" can kind of also imply borderline personality, narcissistic personality, histrionic personality, etc. I'm not actually antisocial personality disorder though. I've got an overabundance of empathy and remorse and get fucked up about killing bugs. Probably closer to like schizotypal, avoidant, and obsessive-compulsive personality memes tbphwyf.

>For instance, they are not interested in art in itself, but only as a "prop" to get attention
Depends on what the point is. I'm racing Van Gogh. Not trying to get a job as a technical draftsman or some shit.
> and validation of their self which is their highest priority in everything.
Eh idk I'm all about self destruction. I don't really care about validation. I'm driven by abuse.

> If somebody quickly takes up a lot of space in a social setting, especially if they have nothing to offer except trolling, goofs, tricks, props etc... they are usually driven by a need for attention
this is histrionic personality disorder.
>which implies they have an unhealthy amount of focus on their own self.
and this is narcissistic personality. But it's my hypotenuse that all the cluster Bs are connected to a frontal lobe dysfunction that makes the person less able to empathize/regret. And nurture determines which one you become.

>>3604785
>>3604787
>>3604789
Remember your failed Joe Rogan meme painting that no one gave a shit about? This other guy is still riding his Reddit popularity wave - something you'll never be able to do despite how much you want it.

Just give up, Jimmy. No one is ever going to care about your bullshit.

>>3605167
you're not impressing anyone with your knowledge of disorders when you are so caught up in your own bullshit you don't even see it. See through the bullshit and think about the fact that you are simply taking up a lot of space. and that is all you want. you just want everyone to look at you. the problem is when you stopped being interesting, you started shitting up threads, just to keep getting attention. You post your pictures in every thread and they always derail to where you are the main focus, there's a pattern here jimmy. You post in self portrait thread, you post in abstract thread, you post in all threads and you say you post pictures so we know who's talking. you can't be anonymous like the rest, that's not why you are here.

>>3605173
It's infinitely better than anything Jimmy has put out.

>>3605173
idk they liked it enough on /r/elonmusk. And I was excited about doing the musk meme because it was clear that everyone was gonna. It was stupid of (you) not to. I've been evangelically encouraginy people to paint memes for years and now there's a bunch of artists realizing the demand and popularity and hopping on the meme train. It's what people are interested in.
>something you'll never be able to do despite how much you want it.
I can post a lot of these to relevant subreddits and probably get a bunch of memebux. Posted pic related to the /r/funhaus subreddit and got like 5000 of them uppy bois. Who cares?

But it's interesting how much you're guided by jealousy and bitterness and stuff. Does it reflect in your art?

>Just give up, Jimmy
lol nope. You being THIS upset is way more gratifying and validating tbphwyf
>No one is ever going to care about your bullshit.
Pscht my mom cares.

>>3605173
that's why jimmy is here. he is butthurt about being one upped on reddit.

>>3605209
>I've been evangelically encouraginy people to paint memes for years and now there's a bunch of artists realizing the demand
oh look at this avantgarde artist here! he started this whole thing and "people jumped on the meme train". sorry, but your youtube videos have a handful of views. i don't thing anyone anywhere has ever listened to you at all.

>>3605205
>you're not impressing anyone with your knowledge of disorders
Not really trying to. You demonstrated that you didn't know a thing. And it's a subject I know a lot about. It's called having a conversation m8.
>when you are so caught up in your own bullshit you don't even see it.
What? Which part?
> See through the bullshit and think about the fact that you are simply taking up a lot of space.
I'm not really. The internet is vast and ever expanding.
>and that is all you want.
You got a weird, pathetic mind. Is this Hungarian Ratface?
>you just want everyone to look at you.
Kind of seems you want me to look at (you) more than vice versa.
> the problem is when you stopped being interesting, you started shitting up threads, just to keep getting attention.
I'm responding to shit brah. You lashing out at me is your problem. You will always be the cause of your discomfort from now until you kill yourself.
>You post your pictures in every thread
Not true. I don't give a shit about things I'm not interested in or relevant to. And even if I did post in every thread... Cry more bitch nigga. I'm glad it upsets you and I encourage you to take these emotions of yours and do something productive with them. Like killing your self.
>and they always derail to where you are the main focus,
Bruh you're the one with the vendetta. You're the one derailing things to attack me.
> there's a pattern here jimmy
Yeah I post in a thread and then the same retards get upset at me and smear shit all of the place and blame me.
> You post in self portrait thread
Its selftember.
>you post in abstract thread
I enjoy abstraction
>and you say you post pictures so we know who's talking.
Sure
>you can't be anonymous like the rest
this isn't a fucking law you sniveling newfaggot. It wasn't until all the /r/4chan faggots started showing up that suddenly all 30 people that use /ic/ need to pretend to be le anon army and all the sniveling cowards took over.

hey can someone please deport this >>3605209 dickhead to 9gag or reddit? really sick of his shit by now.

>>3605216
>that's why jimmy is here.
I was here first. The whole series is 4chan memes.
>he is butthurt about being one upped on reddit.
Again not really. It was crazy to me that there weren't any maymay painters in 2015 and that was what led to me getting into it. There's gonna be a ton more. There's a huge demand for that shit.
>>3605222
>oh look at this avantgarde artist here!
No I'm a producer.
>he started this whole thing and "people jumped on the meme train".
Yeah they were going to regardless.
>sorry, but your youtube videos have a handful of views.
Wouldn't expect them to have many. They're just timelapses and spearments. Not really any value or reason anyone would share them or anything.
>i don't thing anyone anywhere has ever listened to you at all.
I don't think you're capable of "listening" because you're bad at English and everything is a struggle for you because of your mental deficiencies so you get upset instead.

>>3605229
nobody cares about your feelings qt. All (you) have to do to keep threads from being "derailed" by my memes is literally nothing. But that's too difficult for you because you're an agitated retard. You're the cause of your pain. You always will be.

You're not contributing anything other than acting like an easily baited child. And you need to be 18 to post on this site.

>>3605227
You posted memes in self portrait thread and you posted memes in the abstract thread.
Every thread ends up in this shit exchange and it's always our fault for responding to you.

>>3605236
>bad at English
says the manbaby, who writes "spearments", "bozo" and "huzza!" ...

>>3605253
i'm just wondering why this asshole isn't being banned. he shits up threads literally everyday now. the only threads he doesn't spam shut happen to be the only ones he should legit stick to: /beg/

>>3605248
i unironically think that your cats have a better sense for personal hygiene than you have, ratman. i hope you get a nasty tooth infection.

>>3605253
>You posted memes in self portrait thread and you posted memes in the abstract thread.
People post reaction images in all kinds of threads for all kinds of reasons. What a spastic, impotent thing to whine about. Your parents must fucking hate themselves for how much they fucked up on you.
>Every thread ends up in this shit exchange and it's always our fault for responding to you.
Yeah that's the fucking bit. You're the joke kiddo. Existence is laughing at you.

You're so thick. And it seems like it's not just a language barrier. It's like interacting with an actual retarded person with you. Don't you have a hungarian meme board you can act like a contemptuous faggot in?
>>3605258
>says the manbaby, who writes "spearments", "bozo" and "huzza!" ...
and porpoise.
>i'm just wondering why this asshole isn't being banned.
Not doing anything wrong. Unlike some people I don't carry vendettas across threads. Unlike some people I don't spam reports and whine and moan and stalk and doxx and make threats against other users because they're encroaching on muh "home board."
>he shits up threads literally everyday now.
I just posted words of encouragement to the OP and suggested branching into pastels maybe.

Not my fault that Bringbrong had his vendetta with the reddit meme painter guy and Hungarian ratface had his vendetta about what the fuck ever it is that he's so upset about.

>>3605274
>Unlike some people
you shit up threads and post your godawful paintings in unrelated threads. that is against the rules as well, "bozo"
wabi sabi, haha! pee pee poo poo! it's all spearments, my anal enthropy is rekt.

>>3605266
I do like how this mistranslation has become a maymay for (you), my Hungary Hungary hippo buddy.

The joke is that I don't brush my teeth, in that I tend to keep the canvas exposed where the teeth are.

I brush my actual teeth once a week whether I need to or not.

>>3605274
>now he thinks i'm Hungarian
>and he's barking up the wrong tree
yeah dude, like anons told you a million times, there are more than two people on this board and it's definitely not just "Brian" and "Brian 2"

>>3605283
you don't need to contemplate cutting your finger off, "bozo". i think you'll eventually get atrophies and necrosis all by itself. your shit caked toilet, your nasty flippers, the fart-ridden baby blanket, your smegma infested junk and your sweaty, crusty armpits. god, i really have sympathy for the social workers who will probably find you in your own juices, OD'd in a few months from now.

"one trip to amsterdam, please!". biggest mistake of your life, psycho. looks like it all went downhill from there.
"I'll become as famous as Van Gogh by shitting out hundreds of bad paintings!"
- yeah, it doesn't work like that, Jimbo
"No problem, I really didn't mean it anyway! It's all a hoax, I'm a clown! wabi sabi shnabby! hahaha hohoho!"

>>3605282
>you shit up threads and post your godawful paintings in unrelated threads
>>3602792
LOOK SOMEONE POSTED A PICTURE OF A CUTE DOGGO MAKING A FACE IN A THREAD THAT IS EXPLICITLY not ABOUT CUTE DOGGOS MAKING FACES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>3602663
LOOK AT THIS SON OF A BITCH WITH HIS STUPID CARTOON THIS ISN'T A CARTOON THREAD REEEEEEEEE

>that is against the rules as well,
It isn't. I'm interacting with responding to feedback and stuff. Nothing wrong with posting images kiddo. And this is an improvement thread, I used that as an opportunity to post a bunch of examples of my "improvement" from year 1 to 2. Now it's just devolved to the same 2 retards feeding me and bitching.

>"bozo"
wabi sabi, haha! pee pee poo poo! it's all spearments, my anal enthropy is rekt.
Be less pathetic bri bri. This isn't your home. I'm not hurting you. You're hurting yourself.

>>605285
No I still think you're vietnamese. You'll always be a gook to me. Calling you Hungarian because you posted a picture with red, white, and green wrist bands and I know how much you gooks like wearing your flags on your clothes for some reason. Plus your shitty sketchbook had some kind of Eastern Euro gooksprecht on it that so now you're Hungarian ratface as shorthand.

Doesn't matter what you actually are. You choose to be an "anonymous" coward troll so I'll call you whatever I feel like and you'll just keep acting like an exasperated faggot about it I guess.
>and he's barking up the wrong tree
Weird how you were right here immediately to deny that you're here.
>yeah dude, like anons told you a million times, there are more than two people on this board
and yet it's always (you) and Bri Bri for some reason. Like I kind of enjoy the wrestmania stuff with Brian and I understand his frustrating kind of but you're much more baffling to me.

>and it's definitely not just "Brian" and "Brian 2"
yeah you've ascended to being Hungarian Ratface.

>>3605299
>because you posted a picture
who is "you"? who do you think you're talking to? the fuck dude. can you fucking understand that this is a board with anonymous posters? do you see any namefags around here? no.
it's your own fault that you've been doxed. you're a total mess.

>>3605299
>you're Hungarian ratface as shorthand
daw, that's cute! I call you "ratface" and now you're trying to turn it around. sorry, but i have excellent body hygiene, "bozo". unlike you. better burn that baby blanket and get a new one. probably smells like death and sweaty asscrack. do you neighbors ever complain about the smell that comes out of your apartment?

>>3605299
>so I'll call you whatever I feel like
yeah go ahead, ratman. suite yourself. you've been randomly calling anons here "the hungarian".

>>3605299
>so I'll call you whatever I feel like
yeah go ahead, ratman. suit yourself. you've been randomly calling anons here "the hungarian".

>>3605274
>People post reaction images in all kinds of threads for all kinds of reasons.
yes, and you think your shit paintings are the same thing? "oh its only a reaction image bro, so I can post my work in every post I make in every thread and it's always related lol" idiot.
>yeah that's the fucking bit. You're the joke kiddo. Existence is laughing at you.
no that is you being an asshole.

>>3605307
>neighbors
I always assumed he lived in an institution

>>3605299

>>3605299
You know that if you ever stop posting now you'll be the laughing stock of this board, right?? Congratulations this is your life now.

>>3605323
he posted a lot of pics of his shithole apartment. his landlord is going to have to tear the floor and walls out when this guy ODs. toilet is literally caked with shit and dirt. mirror is nasty. one time, he linked to his live stream of him playing some mmo with his gamer homies. he scratched his balls and smelled his hand with an absent face expression. baby blanket on his lap, doing retarded spastic tic moves. this guy is a mess and it all makes sense when you see it. pathological sewer rat, aka ratman.

>>3605304
>who is "you"?
Hungarian ratface. posted >>3604224 in their vendetta on the other thread. idk is that polish writing?
>can you fucking understand that this is a board with anonymous posters?
yeah which is the funny thing about interacting with the same "trolls" in every thread over the span of weeks, months, and years. They start revealing their quirks and projecting their insecurities in a desperate attempt to antagonize or "hurt" others. Your mental illnesses become apparent. Like Bri Bri is an unapologetic samefag that shills for himself anonymously a bunch and like gaslights himself about it.

>do you see any namefags around here? no.
might as well.

>it's your own fault that you've been doxed.
lol. What an unironical sociopath. I hope you or whoever does try to break into my house though. I'm so excited about the prospect of getting to shoot someone a bunch in the face as an act of self-defense.

>>3605307
>I call you "ratface" and now you're trying to turn it around
It's the primary identifying feature of your shitposting. You say it like a tic. It's very uncreative and it gave away the fact that you struggle with the language. You're ratface now. And given all your projecting I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that you actually do have a ratty face.
> sorry, but i have excellent body hygiene,
>>>>>>>reddit

>>3605310
>yeah go ahead, ratman
I am.
>suite yourself.
*suit.
>you've been randomly calling anons here "the hungarian".
I mean I would say Polish but I didn't want to offend you.

>>3605341
>Hungarian ratface. posted >>3604224 → in
not me, you lobotomized vegetable. haha, god you are so endlessly pathetic. should i call you "Sherlock Ratman" ? will you ever solve the "case of the many anons"? who dunnit?

>>3605341
>heir insecurities in a desperate attempt to antagonize or "hurt" others
there's that excuse for your lacking skills again. you are repeating yourself, "bozo". i thought rats were kinda smart, despite being incredibly nasty and parasite ridden.

>>3605338
jesus, I really hope he gets his shit together eventually.

>>3605341
>gets called ratman
>calls other anon ratman
>gets called sociopath
>calls other anon sociopath
yeah it doesn't really work like that, Sherlock Ratman.

>>3605349
i doubt it. seen it many times. he is the type that is in love with his deficiancies and his awful state of being, bad hygiene and everything that comes with it. it's "part of the package" for him and probably actually makes him feel good in a sense. letting yourself go like that, downward spiraling in a mess of waste that surrounds you, becoming antisocial, all goes together with that kind of mental attitude. he said that he has OCD, but i doubt that it's anything else but his own choice.

>>3605341
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>>3604785
I've got a very good community for you, Jimmy. You can have a fresh start. People there are usually friendly, underage and have no idea about painting - ideal conditions for you, me thinks.

https://9gag.com/drawing

>>3605311
>suit yourself
I like how embarrassed you are about how you're dogshit at English. Me me? My motto is dictated but not red.
>>3605317
>yes, and you think your shit paintings are the same thing?
they clearly aren't to (you) lol. Look at how upset it makes you.
> "oh its only a reaction image bro, so I can post my work in every post I make in every thread and it's always related lol"
exactly! Now we cooking with grease.
>idiot.
I'm sorry you're upset?
>no that is you being an asshole.
Why shouldn't I be though? Got this Hungarian ratface faggot and his weird vendetta and Homeboard Brian and whoever else that just follow me around flaming and taking bait and being agitated about stuff. If idiots want to wrastle I'm always down.
>>3605333
I like his stuff though. He's technically much better than I am. His success is good for everyone.
>>3605337
>You know that if you ever stop posting now you'll be the laughing stock of this board, right??
OH NO?!?!?
>Congratulations this is your life now.
Eh the irony is that I extended the stay because I was enjoying all the abuse and the effect it's had on muh art the last few months. Real good motivator.

Plus the persistence and continuity of the few buttblasted anons that follow me around projecting their mental illness has given me a much better and more interesting characterization of (you) than I had before.

But yeah I love the implication of "I'm going to talk so much shit about you when you're not around" being a threat. Who needs marketing when you've got butthurt stalkers keeping you top of mind lol.
>>3605338
I didn't link to shit. Was a desperate attempt at a "gotcha" from a buttblasted soviet satellite weirdo with a bone to pick. And we were playing Pubg.

>>3605372 are an idiot, (you) filthy rat chimera.
get your cats some vermicide and while you're at it, have some of it yourself.

>>3605372
>Hungarian ratface faggot
i'm not the one with matted, caked hair and beard, "bozo". i'd bet my left shoe that you can just dive into that beard and find some moldy instant noodles from 2015 in there.
wabi sabi shnibbety shnabby!

>>3605372
>wrastle
bad English, bozo! ohohoho! what are you, some hungarian ratman?

>>3605372
>His success is good for everyone.
good for that army of instagram meme painters, you mean?

>>3605344
>not me, you lobotomized vegetable.
I was talking to 2 people in that post m8. One of which was Hungarian Ratman.
>haha, god you are so endlessly pathetic.
haha not you tho
>should i call you "Sherlock Ratman" ?
Should you?
>will you ever solve the "case of the many anons"?
I mean it's the case of like 2 anons primarily.
>who dunnit?
Primarily seems like Bri Bri and The Ratman. What are you struggling with?

>>3605347
>there's that excuse for your lacking skills again
We're not really talking about skills at all are we kiddo? We're talking about me and (you) for whatever reason.
>you are repeating yourself, "bozo".
Are you not?
>i thought rats were kinda smart
yeah I'm sure. You look like one right? Is this Hungary boi? I already assumed you called people that because you literally look like a rat, and now you're justifying to yourself how smart they are lol. I never said they weren't smart. I said they make really good French food. Only reason I'm calling (you) ratman is the redundancy with which you use that one thing.

>>3605354
>gets called sociopath
>calls other anon sociopath
I mean are you implying that there's literally only one sociopath? are you implying that there wouldn't be sociopaths on fucking 4chan?
>yeah it doesn't really work like that, Sherlock Ratman.
Victim shaming and self-justification for actions you take that "violate the rights of others" are hallmarks for antisocial personality disorder. Endlessly stalking and harassing strangers because you feel like they encroached on your "home board" is something a sociopath does. Both of (you) that are dancing right now would probably score pretty high scores on the psychopathy checklist.

>>3605357
I like how it's like "you're too dirty and you're too much of an antisocial troll and you ruin things with your shitty memes" somehow implies that I'm NOT where I'm supposed to be. If you want a moderated safe space full of clean good boys what the fuck are you doing here?

>>3605372
>projecting their mental illness
hands down, i don't know anyone who lives in a fucking derelict cave like you've shown to us, Jimbo. this one night out, we partied and this junky was following us and some dude offered to let him crash at a friends house. that friend refused to do it and so i was drunk and stupid enough to let that junky crash at my place. his fucking teeth were oozing puss and he used up half my kitchen roll to dry that up. hungover the next day, i gave him breakfast and the shit that this dude was talking was mental, saying he knows jiu jitsu, lived in a castle once, has plans to make a movie.
but he pales compared to you, ratman. you get the cake, you are the No. 1 rat chimera. i could literally smell the air of your apartment from seeing those photos. care to upload one of them again? the other anons need to see. i can imagine the secret fragrance of old eggs, cat shit, burnt milk, vomit and foot cheese all over the place.

Can this thread PLEASE just autosage already?

>>3605396
>Endlessly stalking and harassing strangers because you feel like they encroached on your "home board" is something a sociopath does.
glad to see that you have a degree in clinical psychology, ratman. your definitions and criteria are ace.

have you ever looked at yourself, your room, your body hygiene and tried to catergorize that? is that the way a reasonable, social, healthy person lives?
and people aren't stalking you here. they recognize your shit, because you literally post a shitty blurry phone pic of one of your messy plates everytime. they talk back, because you talk back. if that is too much for you, crawl up in your fart ridden blanket and knock yourself out.

>>3605396
>I was talking to 2 people in that post m8. One of which was Hungarian Ratman.
tell (me) when (You)'ve solved the riddle, Sherlock Ratman.

>>3605375
>are an idiot,
And you're easily agitated by an idiot. What does that make you?
>(you) filthy rat chimera.
Is that the only insult animal you know?
>>3605379
>i'm not the one with matted, caked hair and beard, "bozo".
Sounds like you'd enjoy reddit. Or maybe 9gag?
>i'd bet my left shoe
BUT THEN YOU'D ONLY HAVE ONE SHOE! Doesn't it get cold in your village?
>and find some moldy instant noodles from 2015 in there.
Beard started in November/December 2016.
>wabi sabi shnibbety shnabby!
now you get it.
>>3605382
No I'm an American apesman.
>>3605384
>good for that army of instagram meme painters, you mean?
yeah he's normalizing and reinforcing the genre I'm working in.
>>3605398
>hands down, i don't know anyone who lives in a fucking derelict cave like you've shown to us, Jimbo.
You sound uppity. Have you tried reddit?
>>3605406
>glad to see that you have a degree in clinical psychology, ratman.
Me too.
>your definitions and criteria are ace.
Take the hare psychopathy checklist.
>have you ever looked at yourself, your room, your body hygiene and tried to catergorize that?
yeah constantly.
> is that the way a reasonable, social, healthy person lives?
nope.
>and people aren't stalking you here.
I mean seems a lot like Hungarian Ratman and Brian are losing their goddamn minds right now.
>they talk back, because you talk back.
Exactly. And that carries on for weeks and months until we get to the point that some cunt kid in some Eastern European hovel whines about how i'm too gross to post to 4chan for hours in an improvement thread. Time is entropy lol.
> if that is too much for you
I mean it isn't. Which is why you're so upset and lashing out and crying like a sniveling bitch.
>crawl up in your fart ridden blanket
Me and ghoulie are in it right meow. Can do both things at once bud.

>>3605420
You got me to say "what a fucking retard" out loud which is quite the accomplishment on this board

>>3605420
>genre I'm working in.
i can't even.
I sound uppity? because i wash and clean my house like any normal person?
>kid in some Eastern European
cold, colder ... warm! ... no, cold again ... ... damn, Jimmy! this anonymous thing is really annoying, eh?
when was the last time someone was at your house, Jimbo? be careful not to lose those cats. a vet might deem your public toilet apartment unfit for having pets.

>>3605446
Jimmys such a loser lol

>>3605420
>Sounds like you'd enjoy reddit. Or maybe 9gag?

>gets called ratman
>calls other anon ratman
>gets called sociopath
>calls other anon sociopath
>gets told to migrate to 9gag and reddit
>tells others to do so.
yeah it doesn't really work like that, Sherlock Ratman. and, for good measure, once more: not how this works.

seems like Jimbo ratface has creativity issues in many respects. he's trying to "trace" and "graphote transfer" insults now.

>>3605420
Jimmy acts like a desperate 4chan e girl looking for attention. Jimmy wishes he was a queen of /b/ that could spread her pussy for attention and it's honestly hilarious. Tits or gtfo jimbo

>>3605420
Lol tits or gtfo jimmy

>>3605448
"Hey, what genre do you paint?"
"Yeah I do memepainting. I'm a memepainter."
"Wow, where can I study that?"
"Well, basically, you just need to stop washing yourself, take lots of drugs and turn your apartment into a dumpster and eventually, legend has it, you start painting memes."
"That is so cool! You must be famous!"
"Yeah I get something aroung 50 ... ah ... 50 thousand views on my youtube channel. HUZZA!"

>>3605456
I'm not convinced Jimmy isn't an ugly woman with a beard and flat tits. He definitely has a pussy with how much he wants us all to know it's him when he posts but Jesus Christ I've never seen a woman as ugly as Jimisha

>>3605461
I wouldn't fuck Jimmy's pussy with my worst enemy's dick. Jimmys stank pussy probably smells like Cool Ranch Doritos

>>3605461
>Jimisha
kek. yeah Jimbo looks in the mirror and gets a hardon, because even his dick thinks he's a pussy.

OP here

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What the fuck has happened to this thread? I'm in complete awe at this shit hahaha. The fact that you think you can hurt someone's feelings on 4chan means you find that susceptibility within yourself.

It's strange, you're genuinely trying to upset Jimmy in any way possible. I find it ironic how you earlier claimed Jimmy and I are sociopaths when he's been doxxed, harassed and "deserving of it." It's insanely ironic you call him a sociopath when you imply he deserves a death sentence for posting PAINTINGS.

He is posting paintings, this is genuinely concerning how people in their early 30's to late 20's are this malignant. If you never mentioned Jimmy's paintings and didn't require to reply to every one of his posts, there wouldn't be any of the turmoil you insist exists.

You must enjoy the banter as much as Jimmy. I know I enjoy reading this stuff. But if you're genuine, you all are dissociative to an infinite degree.

1. You have tribal tendencies on the internet
2. You attempt to hurt other people via the internet (unironically and consistently)
3. You attempt to dominate artistically (I'm cringing)
4. You have a personalized sense of ethics that you attempt to transpose onto others... ON THE FUCKING INTERNET


It's just so strange. I won't even use insults because I'm honestly just confused by this.

>>3605441
You're generally unremarkable in everything you do I'd imagine.
>>3605446
>i can't even.
You sound uppity.
>I sound uppity?
Yes.
>because i wash and clean my house like any normal person?
I mean you're talking about your bathroom habits in an improvement thread because you're desperately trying to "troll" a clown. Yeah you're super fucking uppity. 2uppity4chan
>this anonymous thing is really annoying, eh?
Is it? If you have problems with anonymous imageboards you should maybe hit up reddit or 9gag maybe.
>when was the last time someone was at your house, Jimbo?
Not counting the roommate?
>be careful not to lose those cats.
bogie is licking his butthole right now lol.
>>3605448
samefag I bet lol
>>3605450
>yeah it doesn't really work like that, Sherlock Ratman.
I mean it does when it's clear that you're calling me those things out of projection. That's why pathetic people project in the first place. So that if someone turns it around on them they say REEEE IT DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT I SAID IT FIRST YOU CANT CALL ME THAT BECAUSE I CALLED YOU THAT.

Like how'd you know there's a 9gag art section? I've literally never fucked with 9gag. Didn't really even think it was still a thing anymore. Is that where you're coming from?
>>3605452
You are so upset lol
>>3605456
it's called memeschlock
>>3605461
Me neither
>>3605463
It squirts mountain dew
>>3605464
Say this in Polish tho
>>3605455
does pic related count?

>>3605473
No jimmy YOUR tits

>>3605466
>med-fag siding with ratman
>both are outcasts
cute

>>3605466
if you weren't new, you would have seen this happening in many threads. Jimmy derails threads and blames it on the people he argues with. The problem is that if he doesn't get replies, he spams stupid comments including his paintings and of course there is always an anon that will tell a person like that to fuck off and there you go, thread derails into a shitstorm with lil jim in the middle of the attention, where he wants to be. Do you think it is plausible that everyone on this board is going to stop responding to jimmy? of course not, so the shitstorm will go on as long as he keeps this up.

>>3605452
>tits or gtfo jimbo
that pretty much sums it up lol

>>3605494
Is Jimmy a Queen of /ic/?

>>3605483
these?
>>3605488
Not really that hard to "take sides" when one side is a super-belligerent anonymous kid throwing a ton of shit around for no real reason.
>>3605494
>if you weren't new, you would have seen this happening in many threads.
yeah same ding dongs are still here. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over across dozens of threads and expecting different results right?
>Jimmy derails threads and blames it on the people he argues with.
But the problem is that at this point it's the same assholes every time. And we're not even "arguing" about anything other than that you unironically hate me. Have you participated ITT in any capacity OTHER than bitching about me?
>The problem is that if he doesn't get replies
erm have you seen this thread?

>he spams stupid comments including his paintings
I posted one thing bud.
>and of course there is always an anon that will tell a person like that to fuck off and there you go
but it's always the same people. And I wasn't "told to fuck off" I was asked about the reddit guy, which is a continued shitpost from a different thread that was clearly just to tee up calling me a faggot or whatever.
>thread derails into a shitstorm with lil jim in the middle of the attention, where he wants to be
is that where you want to be? I don't understand why, if it upsets you, you continue to feed the fire.
>Do you think it is plausible that everyone on this board is going to stop responding to jimmy?
Do you think it's plausible that you will? You can't control what other people do. Just how you react. And you react poorly.
>of course not, so the shitstorm will go on as long as he keeps this up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koJlIGDImiU
>>3605499
abolish the monarchy! Anarchosyndicalism now!

>>3605505
another 12 paragraphs of bullshit. tits or gtfo jimmy

>>3605505
>Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over
i dare say that you are by far the filthiest anon on /ic/ and you have no reason to be calling others mentally ill, Jimbo. you are the pinnacle of filth. you are really on the top, along with those pics of anons on /b/ who cum in jars, piss in their empty pepsi bottles that they keep in their room and stack garbage bags in their living rooms.

>>3605505
Tits or gtfo jimmy

>>3605509
>green black green black
another worthless pile of "bozo" and "spearment" replies by Jimmy, the jokester, ratman.

>>3605509
>>3605498
do these work?

And I'm sorry that you struggle with reading but you'll never learn English when you refuse to practice.

>>3605466
yeah I just like the bants generally. Procrastination thing. Motivation thing. Whatever.

And it seems like Brian is just grumpy that I'm all over his "home board" or whatever, and we kind of have (what I think of as) more of goofball rivalry that's more wrestlemania than actual beef. He's the weirdo Gauguin to my shitty hack Van Gogh!

But Hungarian Ratsody is a bit disturbed in real ways I think. I don't get her angle necessarily. They both seem to be weirdly into thinking they need to be the d/ic/k police by picking fights and engaging with a masochist meme bot. Hopefully for their sakes it's just banter. Either way it's somewhat fascinating.

alright I'll try to gtfo for the day. Out of tits

>>3605528
>d/ic/k police
>Hungarian Ratsody
>spearment
>memesprecht
>bozo
>wabi salami sabi!
how we laughed!