/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3590636
Why is drawing so hard?

Well, I made this from a ref. Don't remember which thread the original pic was in tho.

shimakaze!

>>3590714

Another vidya art request

>>3590692

She looks like Stefania Ferrario.

>>3590810
Because it is. Someone posted a reference pic of her in one of the draw threads.

>>3590786
Superb shit anon. Blog?

>>3590807
>line work is a drag
It is when you essentially have to redraw it all over like that
i don't understand how some anons do such messy sketching, gotta be more confident of where you lay a line anon, make them count.

>>3582396
Finished I guess, any thoughts on this?

>>3590860
boob closest to the camera looks a bit out of place, features are a bit misplaced, hand is terrible, the hidden leg is done inelegantly good sense of lighting, nice colour scheme especially with those roses in there, and the red chinese dress hair, all works together in a very cute way, and um i guess sexy butt and pencil thin waist. so all in all successful but could be a little bit tighter

>>3590865
edited for less retarded:

features of the face are a bit misplaced, hand is terrible, the hidden leg is done inelegantly(doesn't really look like it'd fit under there and it does look like there's a hole in the sheet, not some kind of foldy bit, especially with that black line)

good sense of lighting,the colour scheme suits the image well with the roses, the chinese dress and red hair. good sexy girl, especially the revealing dress length and pencil thin waist.

all in all successful but could be a little bit tighter

>>3590957
noteable ugly tangent collar-to-jawline, and again on that same colllar with the buckle, and again actually with the big buckle, and with the hair lol, still on that same collar, there's a bit of fuckiness with her right eye, just the wrong shape and such. lips look weird, the picture is a bit messy which could be fine but i think with the subject it'd be better served with crisper details, fair colour choices, the white outline looks okay, girl looks pretty, all in all fairly successful but could do with some work, and watch those tangents

>>3590692
>>3590810
Huh, my guess was Amy Elizabeth Jackson

>>3590977
Literal I didn't play in overwatch

>>3590988
i don't get what you're saying? i do know the character is from a video game if that's what you mean, she was in ready player one

>>3590957
this could have a small level of appeal if the hair didn't look like a toupee

>>3591024
>>3591025
nice

>>3591024
>>3591025
>>3591031
samefag.

>>3590865
>>3590890
Thanks for the crits, some part of the drawing are more rushed/bandaid fix so it kinda shows, I'll double check with some ref and see if it's possible to fix those

>>3590692
Veey bad foreshortening on the arms, also her right leg and feet are wrong and she is floating

>>3590858
Not that Anon;Sketching is to lay down an idea, it literally can be a stick figure. I usually sketch at -200% zoom, they will always end messy. It's not about confidence

>>3590851
thanks but i don't have a blog

>>3590810
It actually is her. Thanks.

>>3591109
>her right leg and feet are wrong
How? Serious question.

>>3591170
>how
look at the reference then look at your art

>>3590957
I can deal with bad perspective and flat colors, bad line weight, but those eyes made me want to pluck my own, they clash with literally everything, you can simplify them or turn down the rendering, better if you just simplify it

>>3590786
Inspirational stuff anon. Good job.


I fuckd up lot of things right?

I made these today

>>3591340

warning: some lewd

resposting since the thread died immediately after i posted this in the last thread last night

>>3591365
love this, but wish it had less reddit text and more unbroken continuous lines

Still not happy with the expression, but something with a wince might look good

>>3591413
try something like this maybe?

>>3591407
>reddit text
sorry, i cannot possibly fathom what this means lol. they're just notes for myself because i was trying to get into the habit of drawing that character and fleshing her out, so i needed to remember some key features

if that's not what you're talking about idk

Ever come up with an idea only to find out that it's way too similar to something that already exists?
I hadn't really gotten that far, but it still hurts.

>>3591413
Where’s it’s dick

>>3590714
>>3590807
i hate when this happens. when the sketch looks 10x better than the lined work. it's heartbreaking

>>3591418
all the time, i do fine art though so it's even worse and an ideas originality is often the only thing it has going for it

>>3591365
why are your lines all broken like that. is this you trying to line over a sketch or something?
I liked it till the handjob one the broken lines gets too distracting.

>>3591445
I dunno, there's no real reason for the broken lines other then that's the way I draw and hadn't really noticed much until now. I'll connect them more in future sketches though, thanks

Friends said it looks "western" but we couldn't quite figure out why. I don't think it was really related to the nose. Pointers?

>>3591564
Proportions, proportions, proportions.

I once again rejiggered my speech bubbles. Mix of shape tools and hand-done, with handwritten text. Going to take a little bit to figure out the size, but I think it looks better.

Also, my gunpowder fantasy is now live on even more sites. Do you look desperate if you are on too many, or do you have nothing to lose but the time it takes to update each platform?

http://concord-initiative.cfw.me/
https://www.deviantart.com/cammisacorps
https://concord-initiative.tumblr.com/
https://tapas.io/series/The-Concord-Initiative

Also, trying to shave down my elevator pitch, but it might have become too detached:
"As an industrial and colonial revolution accelerates, the people of Alancria confront a fast changing world, where the haunting influence of the past is matched only by the grim omens of the future. As the old world faces the rising tide of change, only one thing is certain–history will have no mercy on the losers."

>>3591574

>>3591575

>>3591564
remove 2 of the lines used to convey the nose and it will look less western

>>3591451
wait so you draw like this from the getgo? like no sketch underneath and you place the lines down already. if so then you got really nice sense of proportion keep it up. got a blog?

>>3591566
I'm going to assume you don't know what you're talking about since you couldn't explain it

>>3591629
You are using proportions that are western hence why people are telling you it doesn't look like your chink cartoons. What more is there to explain?

>>3591606
Yeah, this is usually how my base sketches look. Sometimes I'll do something scratchier if it's something complicated, but most of the time I end up completely disregarding that too.

http://wendigowendigo.tumblr.com/

thanks anon.

>>3591647
Shit explanation: Your general application of this concept is wrong.
Better explanation: Your specific implementation of the concept through X is wrong.
Best explanation: Your specific implementation of the concept through X is wrong. Here's why.

Come on anon, we're between 1 and 2 now. Can we make it to 3?

>>3591655
i think /ic/ is like this
1. usual tier 'it sucks'
2. uncommon tier 'it sucks because [week 1 buzz words]'
3. rare tier 'same as 2 but motivated by jealousy'
4. very rare, hazy but real crit
5 ultra rare, compliment sandwich
6, unique, an actual red line

>>3591660
not that anon but you're very right other than
>rare tier 'same as 2 but motivated by jealousy'

I WISH this shit was rare.

>>3591666
yeah i thought about switching them after i wrote it, but too lazy

give me your worst

>>3591676
i like your coloring a lot. your stuff is cute but the proportions are a little off putting especially on the pink one

>>3591676
Since >>3591684 didn't explain I'm gonna try, her left arm appears to be more angled perpendicular to the camera than her right, thus less foreshortening, yet it is somehow shorter.

I also think your right hand doesn't look like it's gripping or even resting on anything, though that's more a matter of grinding hands than anything you can really fix immediately.

>>3591676
your coloring is kind of meh. your subject matter is generic too, but I like the proportions, especially on the pink one

>>3591689
No, I meant literally the proportions of her body. Not the foreshortening or the technique. I didn't explain because I thought it was obvious, but clearly I was wrong.

HER ASS TOO BIG

>>3591693
Stylistic choice, faggot.

>>3591689
true, I need to grind more hands, I haven't done nearly enough

>>3591697
Fucking obviously, and I'm critiquing it. You/they asked for crit in a style thread so I CRITIQUED IT you mongoloid.

>>3591699
The fuck does he have to care about you not liking the size of her ass? Especially when you present it as a proportion issue but it's simply about you not liking big butts, you obfuscating fuck.

>>3591648
np keep it up ima fan now

>>3591702
I'm saying the proportions, albeit being the style, is off-putting. It doesn't matter if it's the fucking STYLE if it doesn't look good, that's the entire point of art like that, to be appealing. I'm saying it TAKES AWAY from the appeal.

You're getting your panties in a real big twist over literally nothing. They asked for critique on their art and I gave it, period, nothing more than that, zilch, nada, etc. If you don't agree with my critique that's your prerogative anon but that's my fucking critique when they asked for critique, kindly fuck off now.

>>3591706
Shit, you actually feel bad about giving bad critique, don't you?

>>3591725
i like it. post after ya give it a identity.

>>3591729

thanks. i tried the pose on the right from imagination at first but then i got frustrated with drawing the ass so i ended up doing a study and got too lazy to go back to improve the original. I know its a weird pose but i can never get the hip / buttocks / leg placement in a pose like that.

Not sure if I can advice on loli images, but I'm making her wear swimsuit based on flags. Tell me some flags please?

>>3591734
i think thats the only pose that can realistically show both tits and ass so it's a good one to pull off. a lot of people just break the poor girls spine trying to do it. yours looks good tho

flattened all layers then saved by mistake, so that pink's staying.

>>3591740
NIGGERia.

Can anyone help me out with this character's foot? I'm struggling big time with it. Drawing a friend's character while style experimenting.

>>3591800
That nose can stab someone to death.
Also the highlight on nose make it look flat

Can anyone help me out with the feet? I'm drawing a friend's character while experimenting and these feet are giving me a headache.
>sorry for the repost I made stuff better

>>3591818
cute. i'd do it something like this but in your own way. I think i'll be nice.

>>3591800
awesome

>>3591184
ok

>>3591800
western eyes, and I mean it in the bad way

>>3591744
I dig it!

>>3591574
I think this is much better than last time you posted it. This is way more readable and doesn't clash too much. GG.

>>3591832
redline some true nippon steel eyes then

>>3591837
it's all in the angles, go more obtuse or acute angles, try to avoid right ones

>>3591629
Longer face, extend nose slightly longer and bigger smaller your eye bit little

Trying not to draw western is an interesting problem. As far as I can tell, the crux of the issue isn't in the relative size of the features, but in their placement. Anime characters tend to look like they got hit in the face with a shovel as a kid - large interpupillary distance and a shrunken maxilla seem to be the primary culprits here, which has the visual effect of making the eyes look huge when they're actually just given more focus. This may be why anime-style artists tend to struggle more with feature placement - there's just so much space on the face and so few hard landmarks to guide you.

Pic related is mine. It's pretty obvious that a white guy drew it, isn't it? And I think it's for the reasons I described. Am I on the right track here?

>>3591861
>It's pretty obvious that a white guy drew it
It's pretty obvious that a /beg/ drew it more like, you fags think too much about this.
Just consume more anime related medias.
Live anime, breath anime, then you will know how to draw.

>>3591676
Holy shit, those are the shortest arms I've ever fucking seen. Yev stand up and see how far your hands reach below the hips.
RD's skull must be fucking massive, look at the volume especially behind, Christ you've really oversized alot of the proportions this time.
Oh and your feet are still bad

>>3591800
Idk if Photoshop has the same filter, but krita allows you to turn a single color into alpha. If having pink all over is really bad then download krita just for that.

>>3591861
Loomis this bitch up before you start worrying about Japan.

doodle

>>3591676
I would red line pinkie pie but for obvious reasons, it would be like I'm doing your homework. Be more self aware of what your doing and experiment with different poses while taking anatomy seriously in mind. Study bones structure and how its proportional to the body mass or hair in this case. Stop half assing your studies and put more grit into it

>>3592049
Retard

>>3592049
woah, this is really good
i hope you redline more stuff!

>>3592049
Based, best redline on /ic/ this week.

>>3591365
Anon I hope you didn't do what I think you did. Even if you copied it please come up with something for yourself next time, no wonder your lines are like that. I could have tried harder to align it, but it looks p dead on anyway, I hope you're just good at copying.
Remember this kids: no rules, just tools.

>>3592149
Here is the original just in case

>>3591365
>>3592149
>>3592150
the original artist's pixiv id=65829

>>3591365
>>3592149
oh lordy

>>3592149
>>3592150
>>3592180
holy shit anon btfo

>>3592184
actually not anon, his blog is wendigowendigo.tumblr.com
follow for more copied/traced unsourced art!

>>3592093
>retard
What did he mean by this?

>>3592149
God damn how did I not notice it's nr_kura's art, he's one of my favorites.

>>3592149
>>3591606
This guy must be disappointed now

>>3592187
Could have at least stolen from a less popular artists.

Drew a giant lady

>>3591365
>>3592149
never change /ic/

>>3592049
You made it worse

>>3591648
lol sketching is loose, not super neat like that. i used to draw like that and i dont really fathom ctrl zing everytime to get the line just right, its a bad practice. draw more loosely

>>3592049
>>3591684
>>3591689
>>3591690
did no one really notice the 6 toes?

>>3590636

>>3592035
How did this get no replies?
Cute. Gimme more. I would only say her left knee looks a little too transparent, as in the water is either very viscous and not water or it just needs to be a little more defined. The right is fine because its submerged.

I have no idea how to render or color in illustrator or photoshop please help. Where do I start? I'm not done drawing him but I'll probably just make it an upper body shot.

>>3592035
I wish you made everything a bit less hazy I can barely see the muscles

>>3592150
>>3592149
Yeah ill own up to it I did find some shit I like and copied it to learn, but I probably should have just deleted it instead of putting it up on my blog. Call-out was deserved. Ill cut it out

>>3592292

>>3592215
Drew some concept art

>>3592314
Drew a bird captain

>>3592248
original post

any advice for shading? I'm new to digital.

>>3591819
Thank you so much anon!! I really appreciate it, this is super helpful.

>>3591861
Fucking aspies

>>3592240
I probably did. But just for the sake of discussion, can you explain how so?

>>3592424
>>3592049
Comparing these two drawings, I can't decide if you had a stroke of genius or a stroke of retard.

>>3592442
can you refer to this real quick >>3591655 Because you've yet to answer the question. What are you implying?

>>3592424
Not him but I honestly think the big hair is part of the appeal. He's obviously exaggerating the body so why not exaggerate the hair to match?

>>3592149
Based, i really don't know how you guys find the original.
Hell, i don't know how all the trace busterfag do it.
Is it autism?

>>3592478
they trace popular shit lol

>>3592478
It was really a "I recognize that ass" moment for me this time. But the signs were there from the start, a tumblr retard like him couldn't have come up with those cute poses.

>>3591655
autism speaks

>>3592478
>>3592149
To be fair, the original artist norakura draws from photos most of the time.

I figured this may be a better thread to ask about this than /beg/ despite still being a newfag at drawing, since this is more of a stylistic question.

Lately I've been trying to improve my lines, how does this look?
I would appraciate opinions on the lines the most but if you think something else is even more terrible feel free to tear me a new asshole over it.

>>3592514
Yeah, but this isn't norakura I believe and he still traced or copied this completely, couldn't even find high res for this

>>3592527
Yeah that was copied as well, when I get home tomorrow ill edit the post on my blog with the sources I took em from

>>3592525
Too thick and even

>>3592457
That was actually my first comment in this chain, I also find it pretty funny you ended up linking me to my own post from above.

I was making a passing comment on the obvious difference in quality between your redline and your sketch, but if you'd like feedback, sure, I'll do my best.

Anatomically, there's a few things that strike me as odd about >>3592424. The first is the position of the clavicles - you situated the clavicles with a very nice flow in your redline. You didn't match them exactly to the drawing, and though I'm not sure lowering them was necessary, there's definitely something that looks off about the shape of her deltoid, or placement of the acromion process. Although it might be more of a muscle issue, you sorted out that area nicely with the bones.

The clavicles of your sketch, comparatively, are very lackluster. They're two straight bars in perfect alignment, with no dynamism. The left shoulder is brought forward, and it would be a great opportunity for the clavicle to follow, but you didn't.

(cont.)

>>3592568
Some other faults I find with the sketch are:
-No real indication of tension or insertion points in the pecs. His left pec's insertion is covered by the deltoid and skin in that area bunching up, but it would have still been nice to indicate some of the flow
-Trapezius - deltoid flow is absent in the shoulders, I can't even tell where your acromion is because it's all one line of chickenscratch
-His left triceps is a big balloon
-Interlinking of his right biceps into the forearm muscles is poorly indicated
-The area of his face below the cranium is equal to more than half of the head, when it should be much smaller, especially considering top-down perspective
-The pit of the neck/gap between clavicles is absent when you nailed it so well in the redline
-Your separation of the adductors from the quads on his left leg feels very lazy, you just ran a single straight line through, the contour of the leg at the pelvis indicates no forms, there are no indication of the quads either, just a blobby mass.

And in general, your redline had lines that were tight af, both in terms of flow and line width, while your sketch has very inconsistent line width, lots of chicken scratching, and lines that feel like they're not heading where you'd like them to.

>>3592556
You mean the line thickness is too even across the whole image?
It was one thing that I tried to avoid in this, did I fuck it up?

>>3592180
>>3592150
>>3592149
>>3591365
OH NO NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>>3592292
>copied
>nigga you traced the bending one straight up.

>>3592525
I asked you to name an artist whose linework you admired in the previous thread, you replied you weren't looking at any artist in particular.

Since lines are an artistic tool/form of stylization, the best way to improve them is to study how other artists use them. Your lines are fucked but there's such a wide variety of ways to fix them by veering towards different styles, that it will be hard to give you advice until you pick a style to copy.

Tradfag here. I really need a tablet desu.

>>3591648
>>3591704
wow im a idiot. fucking fake ass.

>>3592568
>>3592569
I like the feedback, wasn't expecting it since the sketch was just there to indicate I was the anon who redlined RD. Drawing from memory isn't always going to yield a finished drawing so of course there's gonna be more creative liberties taken into the conceptual part of the drawing. Undefined lines and the laziness of the sketch was more so to get a generalized visual of the pose. The drawing starts from basic shapes and can always be taken another step forward but that was never my intention since again, its was a quick doodle. I'd imagine the quality would be different from the redline because I can draw the bones perceptually based on an already drawn image.

ps yeah that is funny how I linked your previous comment back to you. Ironic, practice what you preach next time.

>>3592212
>http://wendigowendigo.tumblr.com/
yeah i got baited wtf is this shit man...

>>3592576
Beacuse I didn't want to try and replicate any sort of specific artist, especially those that are on such a high level that I doubt I'll be able to do anything even remotely similar for the next decade.

However if it's needed to give me some advice, I always admired Junji Ito and Tsutomu Nihei when it comes to lines.

>>3592380
np it was cute af already so was happy to help~

>>3592620
>>3592618

I mean, its not like all my stuffs fake. There are just a few sketches in there that I copied and didn't give credit. And I did say I'd cut it out but it was shitty of me and i won't upload the stuff I copy to learn like that anymore.

>>3592638
trying to impress a bunch of autists in a shitty half forgotten board in a pedo anime site by tracing? epitome of pathetic

>>3592622
Oh and I'll post the finished thing her for you anon :D I tried to adjust the feet so it was different from yours, but I couldn't really change much... Thank you again!
I also made a quick, shitty gif with it too because I had the spare time
>Did it in 5 minutes oof

>>3592694
>wow I'm an idiot
Forgot the link:
https://imgur.com/a/t1WZbt6

>>3592694
>>3592696

Cute got a blog? and i like the loop. i think adding blinking would really bring it together. maybe on the next one. great job c:

>>3592621
I'm glad to hear those two are your picks, as they draw in a fairly realistic style (on the scale of full realism to full abstract), which means their linework rests on decisions pertaining to other aspects of fundamentals.

I would say that the main thing holding back your linework doesn't actually have to do with your lines, but with how poor the rest of your fundamentals are.

The artists you mentioned use concepts such as flow, hierarchy, perspective, form, rendering/shading, etc. to affect decisions pertaining to their lines.

You're able to make thick and thin lines. In a black and white style, that's about all you need to do pertaining to inking. The rest comes from mastery of other fundamentals, something you lack.

One example of this would be form hierarchy. All your strands of hair have the exact same size and follow each other like rank and file soldiers. When someone like Junji Ito draws hair, you can be sure his strands are broken into a hierarchy. There's a few major masses that represent all of the hair volumes, then smaller strands break off from these major masses.

Another example is shading/rendering and form. You've done some hatching to represent shadows. That hatching is fine. Its placement, however, is what's causing you issues. The shadows aren't consistent with anything, they just appear randomly: in a crevice, when a form turns, at the edge of every single strand of hair in one area... Studying rendering and form is the only way you'll be able to place that hatching accurately.

tl;dr: Your lines are fine, if you want to improve you'll have to focus on different aspects of fundamentals now.

>>3592699
hey man youre actually getting better!

>>3592724
thank you, i'm practicing with the marker brush cause i think it helps me keep things not as 'harsh' as my typical lines do so that i can work in a looser format, then build from there

>>3591564
more free lines, more expressive eyes, less nose or even dot noses, add more into cranium and less into the face proportions. Also browse more twitter.

>>3591445
not that guy, but many of my lines are also broken down, although not as much as that guy's (though he's obviously tracing) it's just that I suck at connecting my lines so i just draw a new line near it. Also, sometimes it help make my drawings look like it got a bit more flow and energy. picrelated

>>3591729
>>3591725

little update on this.

i feel like i'm forcing myself to take this somewhere but i'm learning in the process so i guess there's that.

all crits welcome

sketch, was trying to study a bit the uniforms of my country, but I might "finish" this one later.

>>3592701
My Twitter is SGT_Babyhands! Although, life's been a bitch so I haven't been posting a whole lot... I'll be getting back on things sometime next spring. :D
And with the gif, honestly if I had more time I'd do a LOT more with it. Like add more bounce-back frames, blinking, and much more movement. But that's just regular animating lol
>Thank you so much for being interested in my work!!

>>3592714
not that guy but thanks this is great advice

i moved to photoshop
i don't have the patience for zoomed in linework

>>3592714
Thank you for advice.

Trying to improve my anime-style faces. Is this any good?

>>3593244
> Eyes are too close together
> Ugly brows
The rest is quite nice.

Noob here. I apologise for just yeeting myself into a thread (I grew up on fit and it used to bug the shit out of me) but this is the kind of stuff I want to learn to draw. Should I start off working through the sticky, or would you guys recommend a different starting point?

>>3592344
Looking for crits

>>3593362
The sticky is a pretty good start if you want an approximate roadmap of study material to follow. I wouldn't say it's perfect and would suggest you lurk a bit to figure out what books you could potentially substitute, like the much memed around here Loomis could be replaced by a few other authors that in my opinion make more sense.
But the FUNdies grinding aside I want to urge you not to forget to
>just draw
I would suggest you draw from life, you're gonna need to learn to draw in general even if all you want to draw is waifus. Copy other art you like, try to replicate it best you can and then analyze where you fucked up. You could also just try to draw from imagination right away, but I found it to be soul crushing when everything came out more autistic looking than usual at first (maybe it's just me though).
I don't know if you have a tablet to draw with, but I would recommend starting out on paper and then transitioning to digital (use cntrlpaint to have an easy transition). Anyway just buy some printer paper and draw what you like and have fun. A good balance between learning and actually drawing is the most important part. I think all of this is written in the sticky anyway so maybe this post is a waste of time now that I think about it.
Have fun drawing and ask in the beginner thread next time.

>>3593437
Thanks bud!

Yep, Lost Planet 2 was a mighty fine game...

>>3591056
ya got me

>>3593391
This is fucking amazing

>>3590710
>>3590957
>>3591830

>>3593563
>durrrrrrrr

>>3593349
i like the body but the face and head is too big i thinnk. i dono the head just uggo. sorry

>>3592939
>SGT_Babyhands
are you making these little response doodles? they are made cuteeeeee~

D.Va

>>3593399
cool as fuck senpai

>>3593518
still not how chins work bucko

>>3593894
I think it makes no sense for your shoulders to be angled this far down. She's resting on her forearms, her shoulders and shoulder blades are gonna be raised unless she's tensing her back and neck into a ridiculous pose.

You didn't draw the back of her torso far back enough, she has an impossibly thin ribcage.

Foreshortening on her leg fails cause the butt reaches too far back, even when foreshortened you've got way more thigh than butt on that length.

And for god's sake, give her the outline of a collarbone, it feels weird to see a perfectly featureless upper chest like this.

>>3594067
And here's a model in a similar pose to help you understand some of what I'm talking about.

>>3594024
m a d c a u s e b a d

>>3590860
You end your deltoids too short. It actually inserts midway on the humerus.

While on her right arm, the insertion point is directly facing the camera and not part of the outline, the outline still ends at 1/4th of the humerus, indicating an incredibly short deltoid. From that particular angle, it would be more natural for the outline to blend into the rest of the arm at something like 1/3rd distance. The other arm has the same issue.

>>3594067
>>3594069
Thanks

>>3594024
pyw

>>3594018
Hey thanks. Didn't think anyone cared for it because of the lack of replies.

one of the most mysterious type of being on Arno, the striders, much is unknown of them due to their apparent ability to teleport and their solitary nature, they do not seem hostile to the races of men, but when in combat are worth a host unto themselves

>>3593894
Looks like you traced a 3d model, either from MMD or one of those hentai games that lets you make your own models. I mean, you've even got the rigid hair model, which is angled after her head, and seems to be clipping through her arm.

i feel like i'm seriously missing something with making the head have depth

not enough contrast? awkward angle? muddy colours? fark

>>3593894
Did you just traced a koikatsu screenshot

Would appreciate general crit and rendering tips for my WIP.
>>3594305
make the head bigger and bring it forward a bit, right now its parallel with the lower body, like an S shape. The end of the S is parallel with the bottom stomach portion kind of.

>>3594151
>>3594341
It practice to develop skills

>>3594476
>>3594341
>>3594151
>>3593894
You're a fraud fishing for (You)'s. It isn't practice. Practice is looking at something and drawing it. Then drawing it so much you can draw from imagination.

Never fucking change /ic/.

>>3594074
You're right, thanks for pointing that out! I still need to work on my anatomy a lot.

>>3594485
sorry

>>3594470
There's so much details in areas like the head and then empty areas like the arm. It looks like you traced an image without knowing what to elaborate and what to simplify.

What do you guys think?

>>3590860
Oh man this is glorious. But that hand on the thigh looks sooo uncomfortable.

Anyways, Blog?

>>3592248
The reason why this doesn't get any replies because this huy doesn't take any advice nor critique for years now.

>>3594470
You're so preoccupied with doung the technical stuff on your character that you forgot to use gesture, construction and THEN refine it. It's gonna be stiff, hell, it's too stiff even now.

Start again, construct it using gesture and anatomy, then youcan refine. You're not Kin Jung Gi yet son.

trying a new style (mostly inspired by Zedig's work), fun but i can't figure it out 100% yet
also fuck perspective

What does it mean on /ic/ when one posts something and no one replies to it.

>>3594736
It means you should start shitposting until someone tells you to post your work.

>>3594736
There's already another thread where that should be posted
More probable, it's not worth it

>>3591580

>>3591418
heh that looks more like xavier than huntress wizard

>>3594736
No one likes it silly

>>3594716
that u nosebro?

>>3594736
not animu
or is just mediocre and there's nothing worth saying about it

>>3594716
>>3593894
big yikes

>>3594736
If it is bad you will get shit on.
If it mediocre with nothing interest but not bad either then no one will reply
If it really good people will shitpost about you.

>>3590636
OP pic inspired me to doodle some emo shit.

>>3594665
Y-yeah I reread Loomis and did some practice after that, hopefully my anatomy aren't as awful now
Also thanks, my blog is
https://awan0918.tumblr.com

>>3594991
>tfw postmy art
>only replies are "blog"
>nobody helps me

>>3595035
I would suggest that you add a space between your words. It makes it a little difficult for the reader to understand what you’re trying to say. Also I would replace “nobody” with “no one”, it just flows a bit better imo. Other than that I like it. Blog?

>>3595035
It means it's good enough to earn you followers or it's ironic blog begging

>>3595032
>https://awan0918.tumblr.com
Are you honestly telling me that those 2 are your only pieces? How long have you been doing art for because that Ranma is fantastic

>>3595032
>https://awan0918.tumblr.com
Oh hey you're that guy that draw the Jibril pic, you improved, the ranma pic doesn't have retard face anymore.

im working on this for a week (less than an hour per day) what you guys think

>>3595077
looks like parts of it were traced

>>3595077
This >>3595081 mean you are doing good my dude

>>3595084
You can obviously see the shoelaces were traced from a pic, I will post it when I get home.

>>3595084
op admitted to tracing hows it feel to get btfo

>>3595038
I do have other work over the last few months but it's kinda embarrassing to look at now so I don't show them :>, but if you've been following /alt/ thread then you may already have seen those before. I started 4 years ago but only 2 of those years have serious attempt in it. It pains me to go through my old stuff but here's my work from nearly 2 years ago.

>>3595049
Yeah man I'm glad that my effort doesn't go in vain after all

>>3595084
"looks traced" isn't a compliment it means all the parts aren't working together to create something cohesive/in a singular style/natural looking

>>3594736
/ic/ is probably the hardest board to get replies on without b8 imo. It's different than the other boards because everyone is posting OC, that makes everything way more personal to a lot of people and it shows. Everyone on here has a toxic mentality and sees your art as competition instead of just another post so they'll most likely just ignore it and worry about themselves. Most people on here are just concerned with posting their own work without concern for any of the other stuff posted in the thread. Sometimes I've seen entire threads with just people posting their work and none of them were replying to each other or discussing it, just dumping stuff. I think /ic/ is the only board where stuff like this happens and it's probably one of the reasons why it's so slow.

>>3595081
Not to mention the characters hands and feet aren't supposed to look like humans, she's a frog girl.

>>3594748
There is way too many words that it gets absolutely distracting.

It's been quite a while since I've posted in one of these threads, I hope I've gotten better since then. Here's a project I'm working on.

>>3593399
>>3594111
you have a great style, damn, do you have a blog or insta?

>>3593877
Thanks anon! I do draw these little response doodles! It became a little habit to do them.
>Although these ones aren't fresh bc I don't have the spare time :')

>>3595210
Your work seems pretty inconsistent in style and quality.

>>3595167
Thanks!
I'm posting my stuff on Twitter for the moment, I actually just started seriously doing it, so there's not a lot there right now. But that should change now that I'm finally figuring out a drawing process/style that works for me.

>>3595167
Thanks!
I'm posting my stuff on Twitter for the moment, I actually just started seriously doing it, so there's not a lot there right now. But that should change now that I'm finally figuring out a drawing process/style that works for me.

https://twitter.com/inkpleb

>>3595222
Mostly due to how inconsistently I post? I haven't posted much in general online for the past year, so I get why you see that! Once my life calms down, which by all means it should by next spring, I'll have a consistent posting schedule.
>I am still learning as well, so some drawings are just experimenting/study
>Since I am not even near a satisfying skill level

>>3595222
They did say they're not fresh drawings. Could have done them a while back and reusing as reactions pics, explains the inconsistency

>>3594897
Nope

>>3594982
no crit?

About to render this sketch

>>3595232
Lovely lines

>>3595259
Redo the facial structure. The head is small.

>>3595309
>complains about head proportions
>in a thread about cartooning

>>3595319
>Small head is normal
If you want to make an ogre sure.

>>3591418
they really aren't that similar.

>>3595253
the guy looks alright but is he kneeling or a just a midget? The troll princess is pretty meh and unappealing. I do like your linework though

>>3595319
His right thou, look at it, shits wonky, like a smudged up half sphere looking head. At that too its tiny relative to the rest of the body!
Big chunky stub of a neck.

>>3595259
Work in progress, adding/removing stuff, afraid to oversaturate the composition. Well maybe character anatomy isn't the selling point but I'm mostly happy with how it's going
>>3595458
>>3595342
Can I see examples of non-anime commercial illustrators whose works you enjoy?

>>3595633
Ok fine the arms are ridiculously fat o_o

>>3595232
Gib blog

Done with this one

>>3595820
You're a poster boy for wasted potential.

>>3595820
muddy rendering/coloring

>>3595820
jesus christ what is up with her face? i cant even put it into words, she looks dead and psychotic at the same time
also the outlines really dont help your shitty rendering firez just wanted to let you know

>>3595833
>>3595837
>>3595845
this crabfest XD

>>3595833
>>3595837
>>3595845
Is /ic/ really this willingly ignorant?

>>3595820
I like it a lot, idk what's with all the negative feedback. Really wish I could pull off this perspective so nicely

>>3595879
Probably the same guy who gets jelly butthurt everytime firez posts

>>3595880
I came here to post this

>>3595733
So much better anon, love the muscle definition and the clarity of the body above water compared to below.
Draw more asshole who told you to stop.

>>3594703
Thanks anon, I appreciate the insight.

He was meant to be hanging from a repair dock, I was hoping to draw the rest of the detached body parts below with the full damage and over extensions, I completely overlooked gesture and the fact that even if he were hanging the weight of his head would have more impact on neck hydraulics, even if he were moving his arm it wouldn't be so robotic.

>>3595997

>>3596026
I dead

>>3595862
>>3595858
firez BTFO

allo

>>3596026
NO PLEASE DONT

>>3595858
>>3595862
Shut the fuck up Firez you're a hack

>>3595997
>>3596026

studies, never played persona though

>>3596096
How do you construct anime heads?

>>3596162
Cube for rough perspective then draw the rest from observation / memory. That's pretty much my method for drawing /anything/ though.

>>3596049
I'm not firez. Sorry anon you're just pathetic

>>3596042
Gib. Blog.

>>3595733
Super lovely, but keep her left horn in the plane of her forehead, it seems a bit off. From the face, her head is tilting in another direction than the horns suggest.

>>3596197
Sure, but if you're looking for more stuff like that you'll be proper disappointed
http://nilefar.tumblr.com/

>>3596217
>those paintings
yikes, work on your colors and brush work lol

>>3596096
derpy as fuck faces, work on better defining them, they just look like a big yikes you lost the proportions on the bottom and left one, they dont match the top one at all, and that hair, we shouldnt be seeing it on profile view. the way you have it shown

>yikes
filtered

>>3596231
yeax

>>3596096
Love the work Anon, keep posting. You're on the better ones on /alt/. If anything I think eyes are too far apart but I know that's Persona aesthetic.

>>3596229
Show your work.

>>3596374
look at the position of the nose lmao its so fucking low ahahahah

>>3596448
Not him but show your work.

>>3596482
different anon here, show me YOUR work.

>>3596489
I'm not the one that said >>3596229. Show your work nigger.

>>3596491
yeah but your defending some cuck, why are you defending? you must clearly think its okay to fuck up a drawing like that

>>3596374
>>3596448
>>3596482
>>3596489
>>3596491
>>3596496
Yall need to stop this
"Show your work" Shouldnt be an argument in the first place

>>3596498
My good sir, show me your work. If you think you're making any kind of convincing point, you aren't until you offer up a supple piece of your work to be drawn and quartered.

>>3596498
Hell yeah it should. Show your work or there is no legitimacy to your harsh critique. I want to see if people who are so nitpicky about the art of other people are at least as perfectionist about art of their own. If not, well, you're either bitter or have no idea what you're saying in the first place.
>>3596096
This is awesome, great job Anon

>>3596399
cute

i desperately need to get better with color and values. how do?

Not sure if this is interesting to others but I like seeing peoples process/stages of drawing.

>>3596496
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
>>3596498
Yes it should when somebody acts like they are elitist and that they think they are hot shit for critiquing someone over the tiniest details they should show their work to prove how their artwork surpasses it. Maybe it can be a valuable learning lesson for all of us here. Not then you just look like a babbling idiot.
>>3596511
I would not have minded if it was a simple critique of proportions, lines being off or maybe the eyes are too close together. Even a drawing showing what could be done better. But this guy gets to bent out of shape to answer to his own words.

>>3596535
Learn Greyscale values and understand lighting with reflection lights that bounce off certain areas. The best advice for improvement could be having darker browns for things without light and gently move to more saturated color brown with the light bouncing off it. You have the right idea with the lighting of the bugs and some of the branches. But you could try to use some blend modes on color brushes. Maybe make the mantis a bit darker except maybe for his head and face.

>>3590636
What considerations do you guys make in terms of color selections in a scene?
I intended the scene to have an overcast, kind of bluish dusk feeling, but it's ended up feeling kind of dull and the colours are too unified to me.
What should I keep in mind in the future?

>>3596654
I usually look for some colour ref because it's usually better than what I could make atm.

Maybe you can add a spot of glowing orange at the focal point?

>>3596668
Oh wow, that improved it quite well, thanks for the tip!
I should probably start collecting references and organising them by time of day.

>>3596517
Baby legs

>>3596683
I like that kind of sketchy style. Do you have a website where you post your drawings?

>>3596710
dumblr is here:
http://monotoneink.tumblr.com

Sketch for an upcoming piece. Dafuq am I drawing lol! Wanted to do a more creative take on self-portaiture

>>3596741
Thank you!

>>3596629
thanks, i really appreciate it! first reply ive gotten out of like 5 images.. also what do you mean by blend modes? im still learning digital, i use sai

>>3595096
>any of you actually being competition

hahahahahahaha

>>3596925
When you use a paint program especially like Sai. There are blend modes that effect the way your brush's and how they interact with other colors of your drawings. https://youtu.be/OAv1CkQR4o4 here a video talking about it.

too thick i know :(

doodle

>>3596162
s'more

>>3596229
>>3596448
>>3596496
yeah that's the persona artist's style not mine? better go warn him before he art directs another game

>>3596498
this desu

>>3596511
>>3596621
>oof yikes derp cuck, bad face
>elitist harsh critique
haha what the fuck?

Havn't really drawn this style :|
I tried...

>>3597159
the eyes look near perfect. I just think it would look better if you changed the chin line, because right now, it makes it look like a granny kinda.

>>3597342

Did not mean to quote, sorry.

>>3597343
And here's the rough sketch as well.

Crits?

>>3597455
that's not how boobs work, do some studies.

>>3591440
Ah, that must suck. I never thought about that

>>3594751
Oh noo.
Why have you shown me this

>>3595375
I was kind of starting to think this too, I am glad someone else agrees. Maybe I will just roll with it anyway.

never too early for halloween.. wip (im the guy who drew that mantis gf up above)
>>3597537
are you me? i made a short eared owl character about a month ago. dropped it tho.

>>3597613
resizu

>>3597615
it didnt get any smaller :?

>>3597613
I dunno, but I like your Halloween drawing.
...Did your owl character look similar to mine?

>>3597632
nah, not very similar, really. and thanks!

>>3597218
Facial feature is fine but skull shape is wrong even in stylized form

>>3597455
Lats is too wide, find a ref with similar pose to correct it

>>3597718
>>3597467
This is the reference.

>>3591167
make a blog then post it

>>3590860
Blog

>>3592602
Is this for something?

>>3592610
This looks really good but the head doesn't seem to be at the same angle with the hair and face

>>3590636
I need help with coloring
Also general critique

>>3597093
The left ones boobs look like they were deflated and all there is now is a flappy husk

couldn't make it to 9/9, sad

I almost slept and forgot....

new thread >>3597834

>>3597727
Her tits are way smaller than what you drew, and therefore make sense.

>>3597159
that necks a bit thin an't it?

>>3597818
Gib blog

I realize now I was posting in the wrong thread, can you guys help me fix the legs on my picture.

>>3598099
the calves are very skinny, just widen them.

>>3597818
The eyes are too far apart and the mouth is too high up otherwise good job