/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Want critiques. I will listen. Promise

Want a critique for this one too

>>3596290
its been fucking 3 years since ive seen ur shitty oil paintings here i dont think you've ingested a single critique. Put down the paint and pick up a pencil- reboot your existence illiRAT

>>3596293
I got significantly better. Pic related one of my first. Stop reaching.

>>3596283
Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others!

Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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>>3596289

>>3596289
>>3596290
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>>3596300
ahahaha what the fuck, ok man whatever u say

Here's a Microsoft paint pic I drew. I love MS paint.

I tried to compose pictures using scanned pieces of paper instead of brushes.

>>3596379

very quick sketches of a fun lil character

>>3596411
don't think you stayed on model

I've finally finished this but it was a struggle.

sketches ive done from photos on the train

>>3596441
BE MY GF

Fuck it dude

>>3596412
yeah ur 100% right
my style fluctuates a lot and its pretty frustrating

>>3596350
kek

>>3596381
love this

>>3596507
blog pls

some anon said i need to put some rules to my style but i can't even think of one

Can somebody draw a gundam but in an jojolion araki style ?

>>3596415
>wikiHow - How To Comfort Someone In a Garden

damn, these wikihow pages are getting really specific.

>>3596988
LMAO x-D

Here's something I've been working on today, haven't finished yet. One thing I'm finding problematic is how to place that black bag. Does it show that it's leaning on those things behind it? Also the floor beneath it, wat do. I'm definitely redrawing that part.

>>3596507
dom't jump from subject to subject, pick something and draw it from different angles, that should teach you to be consistent

I drew a dragon

>>3596988
Damn son that is a burn.

Are you saying it’s so bad it’s like the wikihow pages? ): how to make it less bad??

>>3597056
I really like this!

The bag looks like it's a bit in front of the thing behind it and not leaning. You made the floor underneath it a bit squishy so maybe try doing a bit of that around the top edge of the bag as well

Quick drawing nothing specific :|

colouring in some kim jung gi for warmup and practice

>>3597083
thank you for the helpful tip anon!! i'll try doing that more

>>3596441
bottom middle is really scary.

>>3597198
nah it's not as bad as wikihow but something about the mix of content, the composition and colors gives it the feel of that site. Sorry you probably don't want to hear that either.

been filling requests in /tg/ for funsies.

>>3597702

>>3596289
I don't know why I like this, but I do. Do you have a blog?

>>3596441
damn, nice

>>3597702
>>3597703
Nice! I would bump up the contrast on the first one so your under cape details can show through.

Here's some shit doodles from the airport last night so I am posting content or something.

Doing some more as we speak.

>>3597702
>>3597703
Nice! I would bump up the contrast on the first one so your under cape details can show through.

Here's some shit doodles from the airport last night so I am posting content or something.

Doing some more as we speak.

>>3597361
reply to this post or she will shorten your forehead while you sleep tonite

>>3597286
Her left eye is too big and placed little on side of the head. Horns are on different highs. Rest is kinda fine.

>>3597703
>>3597702
Did one more quickie
>>3597822
thanks! I was just lazy and didn't really want to put those details tobh

Eye drew a feesh.

I like the fish better than the bug. I kind of just start with a line and see where it leads me. It's like daydreaming on paper and it's a fun way to draw but the disadvantage is that often the thing doesn't have a cohesive design.

Like the head and tail look like they belong to different animals

>>3597941
Whoops forgot muh feesh

>>3597056
Okay i think im done with this one... though the background looks kinda unfinished? Idk
>>3597241
Thank you for the feedback! I decided to drop the squishy property and place the bag a little differently, also tilt it. I guess it could still be improved but for now at least it's not bothering me (as much)

needs a tighter crop/ what else? I think she might need a giant thick tongue for violating virgins

>>3597899
Another from last night

>>3597941
I think you already hit the nail on the head. He looks disjointed. I know how much fun it is to just let your mind vomit out neat little doodles, but make sure that you stop every now and then and filter your creature through reality. I don't think your lad would be able to swim, like his body would wiggle but his jaw would be too big and he would sink. Most fish with jaws like that have long, slender bodies for the reason of snapping up and pulling back prey

but from a draftsmanship point, he's looking alright. a little messy, but It looks like a solid form being represented, although I think you would benefit from looking at more reference of real fins. The ones you have drawn don't really exist in real life, they're more so a fantasy sort of fin.

also why did you take this picture on the floor between, like you're kitchen and living room? there's carpet and tile there lmao

>>3598349
With a lot of heavy weapons, the wielder tilts the heaviest part down and the rest goes upward. You reversing it here makes it look like he has a foam axe.

the perspective with his shoulders is off. his pauldrons should more or less be following the same line to the vp, but they aren't. you did this pose like you meant it to be 3/4ths but you sorta rendered it in 1 point perspective? Keep that in mind while you're making the next one, imagine the box showing 3/4th in 2 point perspective surrounding your character. do things line up? if not, alter it. this will fix the issues with the feet placement as well.

aside from that, I like your use of the hard round instead of going for an over the top texture brush. The issue is your rendering with it. especially around the neck. It reads really poorly and I can't quite understand what's going on there.

lastly, painting over a gradient always looks off. If you did it on a layer behind then just erase, or if you fucked the layers up too much and its too late, use the lasso tool to cut cleaner edges. this makes it look less messy

>>3597814
Reads better as a thumb than a full picture, meaning its under-rendered. the issue is when you see the full image you realize there are a ton of mistakes with a compressed perspective where you missed out on an opportunity to create some real depth, but you missed it. Everything considered this type of painting might be too elaborate to take on at your level. try doing a handful of studies with scenes similar to what you're trying to convey, and then return to it a few weeks later

>>3598380
thanks! how do I avoid having the lasso tool make the hard edge look too rough/jagged? that's the main reason I never use it. also need to stop doing everything in one layer, which is why I fucked up the gradient like that.

>>3596350
do you have a blog? this shits funny

>>3598391
the reason that edges usually look too sharp is more of an issue with the value more than the edge itself. Forms wrap around things. So when you lasso, remember to slightly lighten around the edges to stimulate that the form is wrapping around.

>>3598155
I like this a lot, do you have a twitter or anything?

>>3598522
It's pyros0me on Instagram and Tumblr. Thank you

>>3596283
FOR FUCK'S SAKE SOMEONE GIVE ME CRITICISM

>>3596441
faces are too big
Good job tho

painted this building

>>3598559
Abandon anime.

>>3598579
did more to this

>>3598640
why is he mid shit?

>>3598640
""""rendering""""

>>3598634
>>3598579
I think you have improved recently. Good job!

>>3598598
anything a bit more in depth?

>>3598640
Suggest a value check mah dude

>>3598634
stunning

>>3598640
the only thing that's bugging me super hard is that the face looks like it's melting off the head. If you rotated it to the right a little bit and moved it back it would be way better

>>3598559
i think you should finish it :)

>>3598559
You’ll get more responses in /beg/ or /alt/ desu

>>3598882
I already tried those places why did you think I was so irate?

>>3598879
Will do, then will post again

my new technique is to make the pen really small and turn off the stabilizers completely and go ham

>>3598885
Well there’s nothing appealing about it and nothing disgustingly awful so maybe that’s why you’re getting no response. Maybe if you had a question like how do I draw hands which you don’t seem to know how to do we could comment but you know the answer is already loomis.

>>3598900
So in order to ask people what's wrong with my work I have to know what's wrong with my work?

Regardless I did ask a question the previous times I posted, you would know that if you actually *saw* any of them but I guess living in assumption land is an easy way to live.

On top of that just saying "Loomis" isn't particularly helpful, it's good general advice don't get me wrong but it's not particularly specific as to what I need to work on.

>>3598920
>>3598920
I told you, your hands are fucked. Loomis them better. Foreshortening is off. Loomis that too. Your style is unappealing. Loomis that as well.

>>3598939
Thank you that's better
good boy

tried to finish this more

If you wanna draw live chameleons you can do so at petsmart ._.

>>3599007
They have crabs too. Yepyepyep

here's a things face so far

>>3598740
>>3598877
Thanks! I will change that!

Super major ant

>>3596379
Nice peridot

>>3598344
The tongue is a good idea. The hips are way too big and need to be more curved.

I made a comic

requesting a golden retriever with a human hand at the back of its throat

Some random people from around the galaxy in my ttrpg project. These could be aliens, posthumans, or combos of both. Looking for critique.

>>3599703
This would do well on /r/comics

>>3597865
Thanks for the crit man, yeah gotta remind myself of the little things as I try to get back into things.
Here's another sketch, its a bit weird was going for some 1920s blade runner thing. what's weird is that she looks like someone I know but I don't know anyone like her, it's creepin me out...

Is this appealing? Trying to draw some headless thick girls

>>3599899
god no go no god no.
the only good one is the top left
the rest are like Teletubbies in the worst way

>>3599904
Is it really horrible enough to call God?

>>3599771
this happens constantly when you draw enough people, ill make up a character or use a ref and halfway through the piece it starts looking real familiar

i think our brains just remember certain features so inevitably a drawing will start looking like one of the hundreds of thouands weve ever seen

Can someone please help me on this piece.

Mainly how to make it look finished with layout and stuff. Also I’d apreacte tips with the render

>>3600006
mayostard expires before mustardayonnaise

>>3599899
>WALL-E

screeeeech

>>3599899
please don't draw legs like that anon, one of the most appealing things about thicc legs is the graduation from plump calf to slender ankle. no one likes cankles

Here's another one, don't why she's so smug :|

sorry apparently did this wrong the first time pls no hit i'm new to posting on here
first time i've used a tablet in a long time and wasn't sure how i should go about painting this cuz i'm not really happy with just the flat colors and sketchy lines. would also appreciate general critique, like if i could change anything to make it look better

>>3599147
update, needs a lot of refining that i won't do lol

>>3598634
Unironically the best original work I've seen on /ic/. This is Brian, isn't it?

>>3600257
not bad Brian but please don't samefag mmkay

>>3600267
You're being a hater. Brian's old work was trash, but I recognize his brush work.
t. Not Brian samefagging

>>3600272
listen Brian I know you're excited about your improvement but samefagging is very looked down upon!

>>3599899
Are you making a How to Draw Winnie The Pooh book?

>>3600257
>the best original work I’ve seen on /ic/
Lurk moar faggot

>>3600241
1. Don't use a name
2. Post here >>3597834
Welcome to /ic/!

>>3598634
Little nervous of posting this because people liked the previous version, but I pushed the composition and values more in this as far as i could. I feel a little better about posting it because there was a version between these two that wasn't as good, and this one i feel is back to where the clouds version was while also being more adventurous

>>3600650
here's a grey version so you can see the value scale improvements more clearly

>>3600650
alright I figured out what I wanted to do with it on my drive to get a coffee.

I put her in the jungle, surprise surprise, what I always do. but it came out pretty cool this time.

I'm graduating from charcoal to oil. Sketched this real quick as a test (mixed paint+painted in 25 minutes). Tell me everything you see wrong with it and what I can do better next time. Brushwork/color theory/etc.

>>3598634
>>3600688
>>3600652
>>3600650
Really appealing, but as I said before, her hip is off.. I know you have strong draughtsmanship when you're practicing it, but it really looks like you let it slip here. It's glaring. Maybe dial back the experimentation for a couple weeks while you hit up some life drawing sessions.

>>3600705
if there's one thing I learned from this one it's not to exaggerate the figure because if I paint it as realistically as I can, which doesn't take any more effort (if anything it takes less), it lets me be really expressive in the background.

Ingres would do that to stylize his figures, he'd idealize the faces and make the rest uber realistic so you'd get the impression the face was realistic too. I kind of want to do the opposite. Pure realism on the entire figure and then I can be as loose as I want in the background.


I did the hip stylized on purpose, that was a mistake in retrospect.

i kinda know whats wrong with it, i just wanted people to see it

>>3600596
>>3600650
fug thenk you. someone suggested i used alt but i didn't know how to get to it (didn't link like yours did)

>>3600856
use the catalog to find threads, it's easier that way.

>>3600688
painted this some more

Doing a value study, am I doing this right?

>>3600890
No.

Break it into 2 big basic shapes: average light, average shadow. Then break each of those into 2. Lightest dark always darker than darkest light. Keep working like this until you get real detailed with 10 or so total value steps.

>>3600957
>forgetting about local value

>>3600964
okay okay, so 4 averages, 2 for skin, 2 for hair and blazer. DESU with that ref, you could probably get away just treating the skin and hair as shadow

>>3601022
dig the bow, is the harness on his shoulder for holding up the cello, so he can play it like that giant lady

>>3601027
what? No it's supposed to be a sword but now that I've thought about it your idea is way cooler than mine

Another sketch really messed up the lips :|

>>3601061
Eyes are off too. And nose.

>>3601073
Now that I look at it again the jaw is majorly messed up..ugh

Got a lot of work to do; good to see work after a while you can see just how shit it was :|
Hopefully it gets better...

>>3601122
Use a mirror to check your work every now and then

sketched this out real quick just now because I was all inspired by the Cunard poster on my wall. (https://www.antikbar.co.uk/original_vintage_posters/advertising_posters/cunard_europe_america_rosenvinge/PT1613/))

Once it dries, I'm going to paint some interference blue over the black or maybe throw in some clouds. Maybe also ad some bevels to the letters.

>>3601022
I like it a lot

>>3600971
brushwork is too busy for being so early/undefined.

Here's a thing I'm trying to finish soon

>>3596314
Bless your heart anon.

>>3601270
And the bg without shit covering it

>>3601272
Imo it's a mistake to put the bacground together prior to arranging the values for middle and foreground.

But what do I know, I paint cartoon boats.

Probably done with this. Haven't painted in about a year and a half, finally forced myself to do something. Spent about 6 hours on it, happy with how much I got done. Streamlined a lot of my 'process,' didn't waste any time anxiously refining lineart instead of coloring, etc. Million things I could make better but I don't really feel the need to take this any further, onto the next project hoepfully.

>>3601270
Ohhh I wanna see this finished.

>>3601270
>>3601285
wonderful pieces

messin around with the mixer brush

>>3601270
noice

So one is full reference, second a little bit but mostly imagination.
Is there a better way to be more accurate without relying so much on reference?
Also any tips for basic paint rendering?
Im use to hatching or shading for rendering so im not sure what a decent place to start at.

>>3601336
No shame in using a "full reference," everyone does. All the pros do. Don't trace shit and don't use an eye dropper tool to match color. References help you improve, the people who claim to not use references are the same dorks who pretend they don't draw circles to set up proportion like it's some kind of point of pride

>>3601270
that is not how you swing a sword and that arm is definitely broken swinging it that way. you should just scrap the whole top area and make it landscape oriented, it would put a better focus on the background and the figures on the ground. it just looks silly at this point

>>3600957
>>3601005
Thank you for the advice

>>3601386
Are you ok?

>>3601425
theres no story going on there with the way that composition is set up, it just looks silly

>>3598389
Yeah, I noticed that after looking at the uploaded one. Most of the time

>>3599007
2000x2000 please stop>>3599026

>>3601603
Most of the time I only upload to instagram and discord, so no one ever looks up close.

>>3600228
I like the way you draw faces, have you done anything with expressions?

>>3600837
Post the fixed up version if you go back to it, I like what you have so far

>>3601346
Gotcha, thanks for the advice.

>>3601386
Bad advice lol

Thanks for the feedback last week, went back redid the perspective. Front still looks a bit too heavy, but decided to go with it due to time.

>>3601945
Everything is a bit too matte

>>3601955
And here I reduced the opacity of most things since I found them too shiny.

>>3601961
It’s more about rendering the reflectivity than the opacity of your highlights/shadows.

>>3601386
that sword is clearly on the backswing anon

>>3601274
If I had to guess he had the sketch and overall values set before fully rendering the bg

>>3602203
lol

>>3602204
???

>>3602209
it's pretty bad and funny. Go to the beginner thread.

>>3602214
couldve given a crit other than "lol" you fuckin donut

>>3602214
very good critique

>>3602218
>>3602220
yet, the truth is still evident you fucking pussies.

/beg/

>>3601779
Thanks man, but no not really yet, I'm still working on getting more consistent with my shapes an marks but hopefully will start adding more character to the faces

>>3602283
feel free to leave /ic/ anytime

"lol its bad" isnt a critique, go fuck yourself you dumb cunt

>>3602204
>>3602214
>>3602283
This isn't a critique, it's just shitposting

>>3601336
nice heathers

>>3602203
lol.

>>3602312
I think you should go ahead and experiment with it even if it feels too difficult or looks off. It might help you understand the face better too.

>>3598349
another request for /tg/

>>3602495
ugh and now all the mistakes are obvious.

Brb studies what do you think

>>3602321
>>3602338
You guys realize where you are, yes?

.....yes?

>>3602203
Honestly, this doesn't even need a critique. It belongs in the beginner thread.

>>3602561
Shaddup

>>3602542
these are great, not overcomplicated and the strokes are coool

>found sketchbook from over 2 years ago
>pic related is probably the last thing I drew before getting frustrated with myself and stopping
I'm so mad at myself bros, I was figuring it out. The spider thing sucks dick but the other figures are so much less stiff than I used to draw them, it hurts. Why must progress be so slow that we can barely see it while it happens.

I think I'm going to drop my Megaman fan art thingy. Too many flaws and I don't like the pose/design. Life is a box of dicks.

>>3602345
Thanks.
Love me some heather.

>>3602719
Gives me instant Kasshern Sins vibe for some reason.

I like it.

>>3602719
Pretty good though, don't be so hard on yourself

>>3602686
At least my skills didn't leave me completely

I don't think I've ever drawn a hand before no bully

>>3602719
Looks good to me anon

>>3602833
whoops

Tried gouache painting again. I hope it can take my color and value knowledge to the next level.

>>3602835
you cant really tell where your ability lies with this, this is literally he first step of starting a painting, the rough sketch, it could turn out any number of ways from here

>>3602852
the fact that he thought this was worth posting makes me think I know where his ability lies

>>3602835
Symbol drawing lips is a bad habit anon. Study lips and the fat deposits that form them and you’ll get a better feel for the form.

>>3602719
If you hate it give it a rest, work on something else and come back to it, it has potential. If the light were more assertive in the rest of the piece as it is in the upper viewer left quadrant of the figure, it could make for a dynamic composition. I like some of the differences in texture in the rendering, I think of that we’re explored a bit more and maybe if there were more metallic elements, it might pop more. I’d consider your placement of the neutral warms as well, make sure they make sense with the surrounding surfaces.

>>3602854
>>3602852
I haven't drawn in years, just surprised I could even see the shapes and draw them relatively accurately

>>3602868
>symbol drawing
Nice buzzwords anon, drawing outlines isn't what symbol drawing is. Looks like I was pretty dead on for those lips, as well as everything else except for the left eye that I fucked all the way up.

>>3602915
Not a buzzword, outline of the lip is the most misleading aspect of the forms in the mouth and is pretty much the symbol for the mouth, type mouth and see what the emoji suggestion looks like.

>>3602671
Thanks anon

>>3602921
if hes setting up blocks to paint I don't see the issue with doing a lip contour, that's how I paint

>>3602921
That still isn't what symbol drawing is. Symbol drawing is seeing a mouth and drawing what "mouth" means to your brain, in other words the symbol tied to the subject.

In the ref image she is wearing deep red lipstick and has a clear shadow between the two parts of her lip. The contrast of colors against the highlights above her lip and the shadow form contours visually even though they are not necessarily there physically.

Drawing those contours is not symbol drawing, it is actually the opposite of symbol drawing. Pic related is symbol drawing, because I am not drawing what I am seeing, I am drawing "two eyes", "lips", and "a nose", I put them where I think they should go, not where they actually are in the reference.
Contour line drawing, negative space drawing, and wandering line drawing are among the first things introduced to people learning how to draw in order to break symbol drawing habits.

>>3602948
>>3602940
Maybe now you’ll see how you lost the information of form in your contour.

>>3602845
I love this!

>>3602686
>Why must progress be so slow that we can barely see it while it happens.
Our brains have been affected by the instant nature of technology. We expect quick, tangible, results for everything

>>3600837
Learn to draw basic forms and drill them a lot, all I see here is flat symbols.

>>3602845
Trad painting is hard, you have to be on the right mindset for it to work.
I'm still considering the possibility of doing daily studies, tho.
>>3602954
thanks

>>3602951
lips still make that shape literally what are you talking about dude. you think youre smart but youre not

>>3603096
>he can’t see it
>>>/beg/

>>3603099
my god im sick of the roleplayers on this board

Is this worth my time?

>>3603154
the monkey is cool but stop posting like a needy teenage girls you faggot

>>3603166
Actually I was asking if you think it's interesting enought to push it further with colors
It was not a retorical question. I'm legit asking

>>3603112
Enjoy your flat artwork

>>3603206
None of the studies I use that sort of blocking technique on look flat so don’t worry

>>3603112
my god im sick of the people that can't accept the truth on this board.

>>3602542
anon++

>>3603206
>its symbol drawing because ts flat
Oh that's what you were trying to say, that it was flat? No fucking shit it was flat, form was never the goal of the study. At least i can rest easy knowing you are infact a retard that makes up definitions to common phrases in an attempt to look smart pointing out a blatantly obvious trait of the drawing.

>>3603282
>form wasn’t the goal of the study
Lmao this cope
>it’s bad because that’s what I was going for

>>3602835
>>3602915
>>3602951

Been filling this page with doodles for a week. Sorry to the Anon from the last thread I stole the Makoto from. :)

>>3603154
I like it. Would put on shirt maybe? Especially if colored.

>>3601270
Looks good so far. I love the swirly compostion. Pretentious, but in a good way!

Pseudo-gesture study from a Youtube Muay Thai video. Unexpectedly quite fun to do!

Any comment or crit welcome.

warmin' up

>>3603586
how about draw some adults instead you rapist pedo

>>3603617
the girl in my ref is 21 but ok...

>>3603622
with a body of a 12 year old boy

>>3603622
lah di dah, technically the child's body i want to fuck is 21, so ha ha i'm not a pedo i just like to fuck children

>>3603628
>those hips
>twelve year old
Uh oh, someone's been posting on ic instead of studying anatomy.

>>3603629
i chose her because yes she has unusual proportions and i thought that would be interesting to draw. no i do not particularly want to fuck her because i am not a hetero male, sometimes i use pornstars for study because there's lots of differently proportioned naked and half-naked bodies, when you don't have access to life drawing it's good. it's not that deep.

>>3603629
I knew girls 21 who were pissed they had body shape like this, because they were threated like children by men. They usually end up getting all kinds of fucked up sex fetishes/bpd, because they don't know how to get out of their "princess" state. Yeah, she's 21 and petite - what a big deal you mommy loving boy.

>>3603644
so are you saying that all 12 year old boys have a vagina since you didn't point that out? If you are gonna be a smart ass at least do it properly, faggot.

>>3596441
Do you ask for permission, or you just sit there and start drawing? Looks really nice, btw.

>>3599899
arousing/10

Rendering practice from a ref

>>3603586
I could be wrong but I feel like the body isn't what makes her appear young, it's the head. if you made the head smaller, she would look 21 and not 12. Kids have bigger heads, proportionally (or at least that's how it looks to me).

You followed the ref well, but when representating/interpreting reality, sometimes following the ref doesn't come across well.

>>3603586
By head I meant forehead. My bad.

>>3603698
Some 12 year old boys do, silly anon.

>>3603743
she does have a 5head

>>3603766
the actual reality is she looks pubescent and thats why shes a successful porn star

>>3603766
Butterface.

>>3603547
what happened to that makoto anon, I wanna see the finished piece

>>3603766
>degenerate tattoos
>Pierced belly button
What a fucking waste.

>>3602791
>>3602829
>>3602833
Thanks guys. Maybe I'll return to this.

>>3602874

I think I'll take your advice and do some sculpting for a couple of days.

I think I'm going to do a pretty strong rim light to the right side of his face/shoulder to balance out the dynamic light from the left. Might put some metallic bolts on his body, here and there and to get some warms, I'll make his arm cannons charge into an orange glow and put some warms into the shadows. Thanks for you tips man.

I started with an underdrawing to do something photoreal but changed my mind and ended up with this. I'm glad i did.

>>3596289
>>3596290
edgy 4 me but i love the the colors and the eyes are funny and pretty.

>>3603815
ebic post dude

>>3603766
She'd look 10000 times better without makeup, shitty tattoos and natural hair color.

>>3600881
just toss this one for fucks sake brian

>>3603836
i'm actually not against the trashy drug addict style, i think it looks cute with the innocent face. like an attractive contradiction. i dunno.

>>3603836

she's fucking ugly and has 10yo boy body there is nothing she can do

>>3603966
I am so sorry that you have such putrid shit taste.

>>3600122
good job noted.

>>3604110
These two were both freehand, real messy, and just kinda me goofing around on a page. Not really intending for any of it to look any good, if you couldn't tell already

>>3603821
Ffanks man!

Started as a sketch but I can't stop working on it

>>3603458
Lmao these are the people who crab at you on /ic/

>>3603800
That’s cool but what’s up with the green skin and bloody looking toes

>>3604190
I like it :)

>>3604257
Th-that’s my fetish

How do i stop myself from overworking everything? I did this study aiming for big painterly marks but i couldn't resist reworking each stroke 10 times and fucking it up, the only part that i really like is the nose and mouth

Should i just time myself to an hour or 2 and hard stop? this is around 8-10.

>>3604284
this is hilarious im so thankful you posted this

anyway you need to stop focusing on details and trying to get it exact to the photo especially when your proportions and measurements are so off. you could try practicing on a smaller canvas so you don't have the room for detail and it will train you to worry less about it

This drawing is the fisrt thing I ever inked, digitalized and colored in my life. I can see myself inproving on the inking part, but coloring is beyond me, so I need any tutorial youhave about digital coloring, especially about how to make it not look so artificial.

>>3604284
>8-10 hours
>that mouth
Yeah time yourself and stop bro. Analyze what you did wrong and why. Set clear goals in your studies and try to reach them.

>>3604297
I don't think my proportions are that bad, the important thing is that it doesn't look wrong at first glance, he's not deformed, just has a massive shnoz.
I was doing my base sketch constructively to practice drawing from imagination, i know it isn't an excuse but i thought It'd explain why it isn't perfect.

Also why is it hilarious?

>>3604306
>>3604297
its not THAT bad is it?

>>3604307
Not the anon who replied to you, but the whole mouth/chin/jaw is a little bit to small compared to the rest of the head, not to count that the angle is of, the mouth looks almost like it is from a profile view instead of a top down view. Your rendering is amazing, but you really need to get this basig stuff on before going for the details

>>3604311
Not bad, but because your rendering is so nice, the awkward parts stand out more.

>>3604322
did some reconstructive facial surgery with the lasso tool, i realize it'll never quite look right but i hope its better

>>3604331
>that construction

>>3604331
Just do it again, man

>>3604342
i'm sorry you had to witness this

>>3604342
This and this time stick to your time limit. It should go faster since you’ve done it once before.

>>3604284
quick fuck about, use the liquify tool, its literally what its made for

>>3603289
Its bad because I am bad and I haven't drawn in years and wasnt that good to begin with. I aint coping bro. Keep trying to change the subject from you trying to look like a art genius by inventing your own definition for symbol drawing though. Also post work.

>>3604284
Like the others said, your work is going to improve the most if you focus more on the proportions of your subject.

>>3604380
He's right about symbol drawing
https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-mediums/drawing/drawing-basics-drawing-without-symbols-on-the-right-side-of-the-brain/

There's not much difference between your lips and the lips in >>3602948 because of it. Symbol drawing is a meme anyway. All art is abstraction.

the temptation to give up trying and just draw /ic/ memes

>>3604385
According to that blog post the difference between symbol drawing and non symbol drawing is defined as
>forcing the brain to move away from symbols for example, to look at a human nose and actually draw what it looks like instead of drawing the shape that the brain associates with a nose
Nowhere does it mention lines of uniform thickness denoting symbol drawing, but what it does say is
>the perception of edges using line or contour drawing
is one of the important skills that the artist being written about teaches his students.

So there is a huge difference between the two lips, as flat as they are, the contour of the edges was pretty accurate. Even if it wasn't accurate symbol drawing is entirely about the process and not the end result, there mere process of studying the actual subject and where the curves occur in relation to the other features sets it aside from the symbol drawing lips.

>>3602719
why does the white match up with light grey?
why do you have strips of greyscale and color on the side?

Enjoy some of my garbage!

>>3604494
>hes never heard of a color palette

>>3604383
not that guy but fuck i suck

>>3604605
You shouldn't judge yourself at this stage of a drawing. To be fair, this is what I would consider a great beginning to what could be a finished piece. The drawing is at least decent, unlike the other anon's. You just have to keep pushing it.

>>3604628
I was just doing a timed 2 hour study prob not gonna finish this

>>3604631
Like the other anon said, maybe push it for another 2-3 hrs? Focus on the nose/eye area?

>>3604646
>spending 4-5 hours on a STUDY
stop

>>3604648
That's a taboo?
K, maybe make an exception on this, since the guy sounds like he's doubting his own capabilities.
I remember I gained lots of confidence in my rendering ability after I first pushed through a couple hours on a doodle/study.

>>3604605
>>3604508
>>3604406
>>3604353
>>3604341
>>3604331
>>3604284

m8 why the fuck are you posting leonardo davinci shit

>>3604687
Wow, you really think DaVinci would make something like >>3604508 ?

>>3604605

Crit me, my dudes.

>>3604719
only if you upload the actual image and resize it nigga

>>3604723

Now crit me.

>>3604730
interesting design (not the hair though) but the hands, feet, lines, and pose are bad.
its like youve drawn faces for a while but not anything full or lower body. it actually looks like you didnt even finish anything other than the bust. is this a WIP?

>>3604730
gesture/silhouette needs work. what is he doing? floating in space? dribbling a basketball? think about what you're trying to say with the drawing.

if you're just trying to study how to render, i'd say be clear about your light source/s and place your cast shadows carefully.

>>3604733
I actually spend very little time focusing on faces, compared to full body drawings. So thats... baffling. As for feet, hands, and lines--can you tell me what makes those things bad? I know my lines are a thing I've always been embarrassed about, but I'm not sure what to work on to improve them.
And yeah, this is a WIP.

>>3604734
Hes wearing a spacesuit. of course he's floating. I'm not drawing Space Jam Original Characters here.

I see that his silhouette swallows his left arm. Which is not great. So I agree.

His gesture seems okay to me though. Can you specify what you'd rather me do for that?

doodle for a bud

>>3604735
the hands and the feet just seem like you havent spent any time studying them before since they show no recognizable forms. its like when a beginner draws silhouettes instead of volume. the hands are better than the feet, but they look quite awkwardly flexed.
as for the lines, they just dont seem to serve any purpose other than to form an outline and create obvious edges between the limbs. they dont depict the form well except for the geometry near the bust once again, and the weight wavers a lot for no reason
>I actually spend very little time focusing on faces, compared to full body drawings. So thats... baffling
its probably just the fact that the bust is what is more finished. the proportion is okay and so is the pose for the most part, but it seems like the legs arent well connected to the torso and like youre hiding the far foot

>>3604744
harsh on the eyes pal. not saying its bad, but stop using filters and noise like theyre godsent

>>3604747
nice but i would say the eyes are a bit low, homie

>>3604749
Ahh, fuck. I'll redraw the hands and feet then.

>>3604738
It was a rhetorical question... I'm saying that even stationary poses have some kind of overarching action--leaning, bending, stretching, twisting. there's no tension in your drawing. but if what you were going for a was a dead fish in zero gravity then by all means ignore everything i've said.

i can't give you specifics because the gesture will come from what you're trying to say. it's ok for the torso to swallow the arm's silhouette as long as you know why. what's he doing with his hands? why are his feet pointed like a ballerina's? it might help to put into words what he is doing in the drawing.

>>3604747
paint with fewer strokes

>>3604755
In that case, thanks for the needlessly condescending rhetorical question. Really helps me improve as an artist.

That being said, I'll keep in mind the lesson of your post: overarching actions. It actually is great advice. So, thanks-- even though I'm a bit salty at the way you presented your advice, it's some good advice.

>>3604763
oh sorry for being mean lol. if it's any consolation, a strong emotion helps an idea stick. i forgot to say something positive, so: i like the way you colored the face and the color palette works pretty well together. just the fact that you're asking for crits tells me you're improving anyway. good luck my dude

>>3604605
>>3604699
Everything is looking too blurry, it seems you're trying to get the general proportions, but you're not willing to commit to any shape with hard lines.
To overcome this you can try and force yourself to only use a hard brush and 4 values for light, midtone, shadow and reflected light. At the very end you can soften up the areas needed.
If you're painting something that is very shiny, then you can add a 5th value for the highlight.

>>3604760
the strokes arent the problem, its the blending

>>3604747
>>3604952
i sharpened it up a bit. the work is stellar, all you had to do was blend a bit and define the features.

>>3604730
A little too saturated on the red in your face going into tumblr territory. Shoulder pauldron reads a bit like a half open rice cooker floating in front of his shoulder.

>>3604257
Guess you've never been to tumblr?

>>3604967
never thought id say it, but yikes

>>3604406
Get yourself a better grafic tablet.Those lines are not suposed to look like that on a normal one

Hello, I'm looking for drawing request thread.
Is this it?

>>3605093
whats wrong with it you fucking sperg. use your words. cringe and bluepilled lmao XD

>>3596454
You're a lucky man.