/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

i like to smoke weed occasionally but i absolutely cannot draw when stoned. nicotine, on the other hand, i cannot draw without. if you don't mind the cancer i recommend it.

>>3567832
I smoke and drink coffee... and other stuff, I like to explore the different head spaces one finds oneself in on different substances. So far the best has been psychedelic/speed combos.

>>3567840
i've never done psychedelics but i imagine it's useful for more creative/abstract works, rather than drawing something more grounded in reality. i also drink a shit ton of coffee on top of the cigarettes, it's really the best combo for focused drawing.

>>3567853
the psychedelics definitely aren't useful if you're going for any type of structure.

What about in a fasted state or something? I've been noticing that moderate amounts of alcohol really get the juices flowing.

>>3567861
funny that you mention a fasted state, i used to have trouble with disordered eating and i felt way more manic/focused on drawing when i wasn't eating. granted i never accomplished anything good in that time period, but i sure did doodle a lot. but i've never been able to focus on drawing drunk or stoned.

>>3567869
Pretty interesting. What would constitute accomplishing something "good" though?

For me any output is good output as long as I'm drawing.

>>3567875
i mostly drew self-depricating self portraits on my notes in college and lolrandumb creatures that didn't look like anything. i consider "good" to be something more inspired, grounded, and something that makes me more proud of what i drew, instead of doodling just to doodle. if i'm willing to show my drawings to someone else, then i consider that good. but i suppose drawing something is better than not drawing anything.

I learned how to paint and draw while I was a stoner so my brain kind of needs to be in that state to perfom at its best. It's harder for me to reach my usual heights sober but I'm trying. My process nowadays involves working on an image 80% sober and 20% somewhat high. Whenever I paint an image 100% sober and I'm happy with it, I suddenly see mistakes and things to improve when looking at it again high. Generally speaking, I seem to slip way, way easier and more naturally into a flow state when high. fucked my brain up.

>>3567938
Just to be clear, I'm not saying weed will turn you into a better artist, it wont. I personally just conditioned my mind to do art while high and I didn't even realize it.

i like to smoke puppies

>>3567938
>>3567940
Kinda had the same thing happen to me with adderal or amphetamines.

Took a lot of effort to find the energy from an internal source instead of an external one once I had to go off of it. Might dabble in it every once in a while for kicks though, the output is incredible, but contrary to your effect with weed I feel like whatever I create on it is lifeless or overwhelmingly dark.

Really amazing how seamlessly the brain can function though on certain substances, acid is really weird to draw on, you sort of unconsciously draw all your shapes in fractal geometry or whatever it's called .

>>3567825
If you're already a fully developed adult, aka older than ~23, I'd recommend trying microdosing LSD if you get the opportunity. Did that for a few months and it was the best thing I could have done.

Also, pot and alcohol and adderall and modalert and caffeine and mushrooms and NBOH.

sober september is gonna be lame as frig though

I honestly have to be sober. If I'm stoned I lose all sense of proportion and depth, which can make things look cool if its done in the right way but usually just looks bad. Drinking a little bit can help me relax but usually I just end up drawing women without heads in weird sexual positions.

>>3568313
>If I'm stoned I lose all sense of proportion and depth
grids tho

Artane

>>3568368
wut

>>3568262
>lame as frig
Please refrain from using profanity.

>>3567999
Thanks for the tip.

Now I know what to avoid.

>>3568488

>>3568478
It's a drug that is used for Parkinson disease. It will literally make you delirious and cause hallucinations. Take about 20 tablets.

>>3568515
Nah

I guess /ic/ is a pretty wholesome board. GJ guys.

Tbh I always enjoy either cones, drinking or both when drawing/painting just because it's my chill out time and I want any excuse to not be able to drive or leave my house when not working. I don't need anything to get my "creative flow" going, but I will say that DMT introduced colours to me that I didn't know existed, overnight I practically understood how to draw form and light on a new level. LSD isn't my thing but it was interesting to draw on for a night. Felt like I was drawing with sparklers. I'd defs give it another go if I can find the right space/time.

>>3567825
Lsd greatly increases my motivation to do art for a while and improves my creativity while tripping. The latter often produces bad ideas but not always and is good if I’m having a complete block in my creativity. I can’t do real work while tripping, though—only brainstorming ideas or woogly abstract doodling. I’m usually too physically impaired to draw on acid.

>>3568664
Yeh I don't know what kind of retard would take hard drugs and expect to function at a professional level.

>>3568626
Interesting about the DMT anon, I might give that a go, I've avoided DMT up until now just because I don't feel the need for it. But this has piqued my interest.

>>3567825
Cocaine gets you working, if you plan on going 12h nonstop drawing i recomend you doing several lines

Anyone tried Adderall? I'm not sure if I can even get in EU but I heard good things. Writers and journalists apparently are on that stuff all the time.

>>3568702
Yeah dont try it, when your off it your concentration is so low you can barely do things for longer than 20 minutes, if you have netflix watch a documentary on it, i had a friend who was on retalyn although its not adderal it melted his brain and now hes retard tier

>>3568702
I've done more work under the influence of amphetamines than I'm comfortable with. Imagine >>3568699 without having to re dose, and also with no loss of quality. Imagine finishing a piece that would normally take a week within 20 hours in one sitting.

>>3568704
I agree with this, It'll warp your motivation, art is pain without stimulants. Best to avoid it.

>>3568715
Ive never tried anphetamine, how is it? Is it expensive? How addictive is it?
The next best thing to coke is the guilt for not working enough :(

>>3568725
I'm mild ADHD/autistic.
So the effects for me like that nagging procrastinating voice shuts off and I can just get down to work without being distracted by anything. Also euphoria at higher doses.

To be honest it helped me loads with getting back into art and realizing my baseline skill level and areas that I needed to improve on. These days I might do a binge once or twice every other month and make some weird shit. But I absolutely do not rely on it for daily grinding.

In Europe it's like 1/8 the price of cocain.

>>3568704
Your friend was probably a retard before he started taking ritalin and just came back into his normal state when he stopped.

>>3567825
Weed for the ideas
Caffeine and cigarette for actually finishing the work
I want to try psychedelics but I haven't got out of my house in month

As for my work, no, I don't take any drugs, not even caffeine any more, though I tried it today after a long break and I realized that it doesn't really do anything for me, the only things that are going to enhance your workflow are discipline and sometimes motivation. As for putting yourself into a different head space in terms of creativity, I think that for some people drugs might be useful, but it is mostly about experiencing new things, and watching art, reading and so on. While a lot of artists did drugs and drunk, it is not the alcohol or drugs that made them great and creative. A lot of people try to emulate those habits, thinking that the greatness and creativity comes from drug use, for example many jazz musicians actually started doing heroin because Charlie Parker did, and they for some reason thought that it was realted to his greatness. Similarly to all the young artists who do drugs, drink and try to lead a bohemian lifestyle, emulating lives of the artists that they are inspired by.

Post your work filthy addicts.

>>3568806
dream market on tor. Just transfer some bitcoin over, use a vpn, use encryption, and have that shit delivered to your dang house bruv. Just don't ship from another country and you're almost certainly going to be fine.

pic related was the first painting I made in the microdosing phase

>>3567825
Alcohol for art and writing.

>>3567825
my favourite substance is called "haven't eaten solid food in 2 days and I just downed a whole 32 ounce cup of coffee and I'm starting on my second one my hands are shaking so bad holy shit what is going on why does my heart feel so funny I AM DRAWING SO FAST SOMEONE STOP ME"


Then I smoke weed to cope with the stress of nearly having a heart attack, and drink on the weekend to forget that I'm not gonna make it.

oh yeah sleep deprivation. I work best when I've been awake for at least like18 hours. Or maybe not "work best" but I work with the least governors when I'm becoming delirious from sleep deprivation. Cheapest drug there is.

>>3569174
Good luck with heart desease

>>3568734
But you have a presceiption right?

>>3568528
pussy

>>3568682
For sure, I was in it for the spiritual enlightenment thing, but I was not prepared for how it helped me with my art. I hate sounding like any of those fucking JR podcast types, but I will say I was never musically talented and could barely tap out Three Blind Mice on a violin, but after taking DMT, I picked up a guitar and was able to learn a bunch of chord songs in a matter of five minutes. My brain just connected in such a weird way that it was almost like synesthesia, where you see music. I just sort of understood music the way I understand colour. And this is like months afterward. Before DMT, I was famous for not being able to even fucking clap in time. I do forget the songs I learned very quickly, but I don't bother developing any skill on a guitar. It was just a fun party trick for a few days, being a notorious tone deaf dumbass, who somehow could be shown a song and mimic it perfect in 3 - 5 minutes.

>>3569136
Please break this cycle. It's a rollercoaster but goddamn the damage on your body is real. Learn from my mistakes. Alcohol is not toothpaste, coffee is not breakfast and heart attacks are not gentle chest massages from the inside. FUCKING EAT. If I could repair the stomach damage I caused myself, sweet baby jesus. Being an edgy stresslord is not worth it. Get help for real.
>that heart attack speed drawing zone though
>sogood.jpeg

water and food

No shortcuts, fag

any adderall alternative thats OTC?

>>3569707
I just don't want to run into baphomet or have a nigger steal eat my souls light.

>>3569707
I just don't want to run into baphomet or have a nigger demon steal my souls divine light.

>>3569458
Have had at some points. ATM I don't.

>>3570212
>this

>>3570330
not a burger so I don't know.

>>3568626
>cones
i see you too like the icecream

>>3568626
How many cones do you have in a day? I can kinda see it as a treat at the end of the day, but there's so many calories in one of them, just pure sugar. Can't be good for you in the long run.

>>3570688
unrelated but the image you posted inspired me to do this

>>3571099
This is great, anon.

Glad that I could help!

>>3571112
thanks!

>>3567825
testosterone, not even joking

coffee helps me focus but i realized it was causing me to go pee every 15 minutes which kills my flow so i stopped drinking it.

>>3567825
Draw on MDMA, it's always resulted in incredible things for me.

>>3571099
Magnificent ,

>>3570330
Yeah actually. Benzedrex inhalers contain amphetamines. They're like 10 bucks, and the high is pretty similar to adderall.

Crack them open, saturate the cotton inside in a glass of water and mix well after letting it sit for a few hours, and then drink that shit. Be careful though, because it tastes absolutely terrible. Like lilac and chemicals. It'd make most people puke.

But yeah, high lasts around 10 hours. Come down is a bit rougher than adderall. It's sold over the counter in just about every pharmacy in the U.S

real artists don't do drugs.

>>3572129
especially real artists do

>>3571870
How does this work?

>>3571874
I find it hard to concentrate on anything during the come up, but I'll give it a go the next time I come across some md.

>>3571928
I don't condone this.

>>3572129
You don't need drugs to do art.
But you can't deny that the output is fucking interesting.

>>3571928
HAS SCIENCE GONE TOO FAR?

>>3572381
your mother went too far when she decided to repeatedly slam your head into a wall, turning you into a drooling retard

>>3572403
what did they mean by this?

>>3571928
Also Benzedrex inhalers used to contain amphetamines.

But since amphetamines became scheduled they now use a substitute stimulant with a similar molecular structure to methamphetamin, poropylhexedrine.

SLEEP DEPRIVATION AND ANARCHY

>>3572405
by that i meant that you should hang yourself you waste of oxygen
youre like someone had cancer removed from their asshole and called it a baby and raised it
there is no value in you and you should honestly do the only good thing you could ever do and hang yourself.

>>3572527
>>3572503
>>3572405
>>3572381
While this is entertaining and all that I can't help but feel that it's samefaggotry.

Fruit. Fish, broad beans. Spinach.

>>3567825
no sleep for 48 hours. Blacked out a lot of it but painted for pretty much the entire time. Spine is fucked.

>>3572527
>by that i meant that you should hang yourself you waste of oxygen
sexually?
>youre like someone had cancer removed from their asshole and called it a baby and raised it
you're like someone that thinks of asshole cancer babies similes.
>there is no value in you
$250,000 OBO
>you should honestly do the only good thing you could ever do and hang yourself.
non I get shot in the chest.

>>3568316
what's your point

>>3573682
Anon, that's unhealthy, take better care of yourself!

Modafinil or LSD. Best shit I've ever drawn on those drugs. Caffeine just makes me jittery and irritated unless taken in slow-release Matcha form.

personally I believe in ritualistic inebriated.The Birth of Tragedy type shit but it only reveals what you have inside. Only time and hard work makes things better

I microdose jenkem.

>>3576176
>what's your point?
u sang:
>If I'm stoned I lose all sense of proportion and depth
That's what makes using a more technical type of activity better when you're on drugas. If you're just freehand drawing on pots I notice it's super easy to get lazer focused on whatever small part I'm working on and then when I zoom out I notice how goofy it looks. But if you're practicing at replication and other more "left brain" types of behavior it can be interesting idk.

depends on what you're doing too i reckon

i basically work out regularly and drink coffee. also try to spend as little time as possible in my house because i just end up jacking off

Caffeine really helps me feel motivated and creative.
But recently every time I drink it I get the shits and stomach cramps for days and can't even work because I can't sit up or concentrate from the pain.
There are no short cuts in life.

>>3576347
I got a lot of chest pains and I'm uninsured. It'd literally be cheaper to fly to the UK for a week holiday that HAPPENS to have doctors appointments than it would if I just made an appointment and went to the doctor down the road.

I can visit the louvre for cheaper than I can get an MRI

>>3570688
source on this my god

Adrenaline. when I work there's a lot of hard manual exertion and occasional close calls that really get the blood pumping and it gets me I that timeless zone of total focus where I know just what to do without thinking. also caffeine helps. whether else me feel creative but not motivated to work at all.

yeah.
>vigorous exercise
>a cigarette
>a hot cup of coffee
>a lovely conversation with a friend

Not altogether. Some days I prefer one over the other.

>>3572372
>how does this work

not him, but i always get great ideas when im in the gym hitting the weights. really improves my imagination and makes it more vivid. when i get back im always more focused and my drawings are always better, i have better control over my lines, more stamina, especially if I was running, etc. so not only do your drawings get better but you also get stronger physically and can run faster, are more stress resistant, strong heart, etc. literally no downsides except the stress you endure during the actual exercise time which is usually never more than an hour a day. its a good tradeoff honestly especially when you consider that the effect compounds, so the more you exercise the longer you can go without exercising and still feel the effects of it. I was an MVP in an unnamed college sport and our training was fairly rigorous and I remember being able to coast for weeks after the season was over before i needed to start training again to get the same effect. I've also used lots of psychedelics and stimulants. In all honesty, exercise and deliberate experimentation, not drug-induced, but just sitting down sober and trying to create something original hands down beats any of the ideas i've had from acid, shrooms, dmt, pot. seriously, best ideas ive ever had were when i was in the middle of a long run. often the ideas would become unbearable complex and I would become frustrated because I was out on the road and had nothing to record the idea except remembering what it was using a crude approximation that would rarely do it justice. ideas i've had from acid, mushrooms, and pot are actually usually fairly unoriginal and also homogeneous in their range of concepts. but im also a fairly creative person to begin with so i've never really found drugs to be of any use. I know many people who are dull as rocks and they seem to benefit greatly from even smoking a joint once in a while so who fuckin knows man. to each his own. find what works for you.

>>3576839
caffeine starts to become sickening, im at that point now. its a cycle.