/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3546856
So I was right about firez being a former paint over faggot

>>3546822
>anon tries to summon the wanky shit demon

Not good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzxQgRbTesA

Supposedly this piece caused controversy and an uproar on social media, and the artist edited it to respond to the SJW's demanding to delete since it defamed Womyn.

>>3546872
came here to post this. I'm never bored of this

>>3546892
christ everyone thought this censorship was stupid except for some dumbass sjws. go watch your neckbeard youtube channels. it has nothing to do with /ic/

>>3546954
>christ everyone thought this censorship was stupid except for some dumbass sjws. go watch your neckbeard youtube channels. it has nothing to do with /ic/
Watch this video, and really just take a moment to reflect and think about your post for a moment. Look back to the greentext if you need contextual clues.
>https://youtu.be/xgiLm9bCxrU

>>3546812
This hit me hard

>>3546892
Gamers, rise up...

>>3546809
lmao this is Alex Brock's latest painting

>>3546875
dude is such a hack

>>3546847
hahahaha LMAOOOOOOOO

>>3546812

hehehe I made this! My little contribution to /ic/ history.

>>3546812

99% of /ic/ does not do that, because then there would better art posted.

>>3547535
Did you not notice there isnt even a piece of art work nor is the pen touching the machine.

>>3546818
Is there more? They must have meet again.

>>3547535
There is near professional level work constantly posted on here you scoundrel!

>>3546822
Fuck i laugh every time i see this one. Someone post oog and the cavemen

>>3547393
I don't get it. What does this have to do with /ic/?

>>3546847
This one got me good.

>>3546860
haha what the fuck

>>3546868
>he doesn't know what the fuck a study is
I have no other comments

>>3547390
referencing something and making it better makes you a hack?

>>3547928
yeah, kind of. Also the term you are looking for isn't referencing, it's copying. If all you can do is copy, how can you not be a hack?

>>3547928
There is a difference between referencing and tracing

>>3546829
I wanna fuck

>>3547393
(((your style)))

>>3547393
>you're giving the lesbians all they could ever want
the dick?

>>3546812
That's not even remotely true, I only shower once a week!

>>3547390
I aint even mad. They're all better than the originals. Also it kinda messes up the argument to put photos in there.

>>3547390
don't know how this is any different from redrawing frames from anime/cartoons in your own style

I guess cus he didn't post the picture he used

>>3547964
>tracing
The absolute state of /ic/

>>3547391
What exactly is the joke here?

>>3546822
kek. I lost my sides.

>>3546866
>"Should be studying sternocleidomastoid" DED lol. This is why I come to ic, neet art memes no one else will understand

>>3548463
XD XD I'm a faggot lol XD XD

>>3548463
>Nobody understands me I'm so special lol XD XD
>amirite guys???? epic lol
Fuck off fag, kys.

>>3548415
looking at the filename probably something about people posting stylized shit that took them 2mins and asking /ic/ for feedback

>>3546846
made me laugh irl

>>3548516

>>3548521
fug

>>3548521
oh snap!

>>3548512
comfry thread aww

>>3548521
not relating to this feels good as fuck

>>3548557
post your work.

>>3548299
In every of those cases I find the original better. He turns all of them more generic and replaces the facial expressions with poor tumblr photo imitations.

>>3548492
Huh, I thought it was a nod to the guy who draws giant muscular lolis

>>3546807
Now I realu wanna know what Ben Giletti commented on the Gillette Soldier.

>>3546860
comfy

>>3546861
>I lol'd
>this thread is epic
>Chuck Norris memes
I miss 2008.

>>3546819
>>3546859
Funny thing is my teachers back in uni would crucify me for either of these, the top cross hatching was crucified as one of fundamental mistakes(you weren't allowed to do it unless you specifically needed to portray this kind of texture) and bottom looks so cell shaded it basically could be comic book art.

>>3546812
>dont shower
>dont smoke
>drink a minimum of 2-4 cups of coffee a day
>spend the rest of the day shitposting or painting
time moves too quickly
i miss being able to feel the seconds pass by

>>3546872
>you cant create humor without tension
P O T T E R Y

>>3548511
i dont get it

>>3548520
Kek

>>3546815
lol

>>3546820
That's hard.

>>3546822
Omg this one gets me everytime.


>>3546832
A classic, I remember participating in the thread this one first showed up.


>>3546835
What was this one about?

>>3546866
>this is making me late on my 16 hour a day schedule

Hahahaha I can relate to that period in my early 20's that I thought about me going to be the next Dave Rapoza.

>>3546866
/ic/ hasn’t changed much

>>3548516
These are clearly not traced though, are you retarded?

Drawing animu from imagination is a lot harder than using reference, and if you're halfway decent you should be able to capture this kind of likeness. It's not even that accurate.

>>3550509
Dude, if you're taking a drawing and redrawing that exactly, it doesn't matter if it's physically traced (image under paper/layer), or if you're eyeballing it and remaking the exact same shit. It's not yours. It's traced.

>>3547960
he has plenty of original works though so obviously copying isnt the only thing he can do

>>3547964
not really, they're both just copying but referencing just takes a bit more effort

>>3547960

https://twitter.com/pawnprince/status/1021174540498452480

This is what copying looks like btw

>>3546868
i was in the thread/there for the 2 weeks he spent doing that study.
its legit.
hes still a huge faggot, but the study is legit, the funny thing here is that , the guy giving firez the critt is fucking more retarded than firez.

>>3550523
copying is not tracing
copying has some sort of skill level, tracing has 0 skill level.

>>3550523
Time to take you and your shitty OCs back to deviantart

>>3550644
If you take someone else's drawing to make the near exact same image, that skill level is neglectable. The end result is the same, you produced an illustration that someone else made. It's a copy.
Sure it's harder than just following the lines, but what's the value here?

>>3550990
It has nothing to do with original characters. It's about original content. Draw existing characters and designs all you want, but if you're just eyeballing someone else's work and make the same angle, pose, linework, etc you are the shitter who should be on deviant art. The absolute state of this board...

>>3551040
>what's the value here?
Master copies are a recognition of skill, but that's only when you're Rubens copying the italians.

>>3550509
OP was caught posting carbon copies of anime and claiming them as his own tracing or not, this is the definition of plagarism. he only called them studies after the fact. and his creative drawings only prove that he copied without even attempting to understand the forms. he may as well have traced

someone help me fill out the last one

>>3548288
a 12 inch dildo, anon.


>>3548521
Ouch

>>3551737
"It's my style"

>>3551839
This

Also:
Post work

>>3546846

>>3551917

>>3551919

>>3551922

>>3548510
I want another /asg/ thread. It's nice to watch the shitshow unfold

>>3551922
right
>correct fighting pose
>dynamic action
>trees are flowing and natural
>elephant is in movement showcasing grace and action

left
>holding a spear backwards, would never attack like this
>boring static center focused image
>elephant is just a straight forward shot
>trees are a muddy mess

2015 is unironically better.

>>3547892
what exactly did that dude learn from that "study"
a study implies youre learning something to apply to your future art
firez art is still uninspired sameface stiff garbage

>>3551951

>>3551951
That's a complaint about his learning ability, not about making a study piece

>>3551954
not that anon but he has a good point.
whats the use of studies if you don't pull anything useful from them? whatever firez is doing clearly isnt working for him and he needs to try something different already

>>3551965
>firez art is still uninspired sameface stiff garbage

I simply don't really get the point of trying to bring everything down like this.

>>3551970
People are just completely incapable of accepting that someone is better than them so they have to attack whatever they can latch hold of.

>>3551973
just because firez is better than you does not mean hes better than me lmao

>>3551974
But anon, we all know he is. You're just in denial.

>>3551975
ill believe this when he posts something and I don't have to tell him that eyes need to be an eye width apart

>>3551974
post you're art in comparison to firez.

>>3551977
>everything always has to be a full eye width apart
found the dk

>>3551977
topkek

You don't even need to post your art at that point, you've just confirmed you're a crab and nowhere near as good as Firez.

>>3551981
are you wondering why your anime scribbles suck and the girls you draw aren't cute? that's why

>>3551984
>doubling down
post you're art kiddo.
loomis construction is just a guideline, actual people and stylization doesn't conform to perfect measurements. this is drawing 101.

>>3551985
I don't use loomis construction im talking about normal human beauty conventions

>>3551986
It still doesn't conform to exact and perfect measurements.
That one line alone just showcases your complete lack of understanding and reliance on provided measurements.

>>3551737
i know (flaw) but crits?

>>3551973
>People are just completely incapable of accepting that someone is better than them
while this is true for much of ic, i genuinely dont find firez's work appealing in any sense. his rendering is muddy, the faces are all the same (and are in the uncanney valley), and his anatomy is always wonky. he refuses to go back to basics and build improve his weaknesses. instead he attempts to cover up flaws by over rendering the hell out of them- noodling and transforming and warping them- making the mistakes stand out even more

look at his work for yourself, and tell me with a straight face that im just a crab.

>>3551997
the post processing is so ugly
people liking this is proof ic is full of larping normies who don't actually do art

>>3551997
I dont think it's amazing by most standards. But people go out of their way to specifically attack him because hes better than most from a simple technical standpoint. I've seen some progress over time and he listens to crits on individual pieces. As far as things go he could be way worse.
But people attack him because hes a regular poster who's better than most of /ic/ and this bothers them.

>>3552000
its fine that normies think its impressive. its just the "oh u r so good. i cannot even draw a line!" mentality

but i expect more from /ic/

>>3551997
>>3552000
No one here was arguing that there's no issue with his art. My point in particular was the need to bring others down all the time, which is the definition of crabbing.

>>3552003
just because he's above /beg/ doesnt mean i have to praise him. especially when he's been stagnating for so long. and why does everything have to be heavily rendered and post-processed anyway?

i mainly dont like this guy because he takes his art too seriously. its like he never draws for fun, and it definitely shows. there is no soul, no LOVE in his art. does that make sense at least? is that fair to say?

>>3552009
No-one is saying you have to praise him, but acting like you're better is silly considering you're still not posting art.

Fact of the matter is simple, Firez is one of the better artists on /ic/, and even outside of /ic/ he's a good artist. You can cry about soul and love all you want, but technically he draws well.
If you're going to say you're better than firez I want to see some art.

thread ruined because of firezfags

>>3552018
There are no firezfags, just people annoyed with crabs.

>>3546807
These are so on point. I love it.

>>3552024
https://youtu.be/woPEG3o5RaQ

Ever seen this?

>>3552014
>one of the better artists on ic
gonna have to disagree, especially when we have people like frenchie, naf, teal-line anon, the guy who draws those really luscious lips on characters (you know the one), and this guy- pic related

firez is really bottom of the barrel and i have never been impressed by him.

>>3552029
This is amazing.

>>3552042
Man i really wish I was a bottom of the barrel, shit artist like firez

>>3552085
you just proved youre a beg tier noob in two ways
>straight up stating it
>thinking this looks good

keep it up, crabby. youll never get anywhere because your dick controlled brain will ruin any form of taste you could ever build up.

>>3546809
This is your last warning, FRIGG OFF

>>3552085
Kind of weird looking at this. Years ago I got a paintover from Firez on ConceptArt and I thought it was the best thing ever.

>>3546818
who drew this?its fucking good

>>3552279
Fuck off Kyle no one gives a shit.

>>3552063
Have we ever got a full pic of the dragon sculpture?
I kinda wanna see it.

>>3552063
sad thing is that by the little bit we can see of the tail we can already judge OP was a garbage sculptor and the "crude" sculpture of a guy sucking himself of is not just "symbolically" better, it's also better in terms of raw technique.

>>3552097
>Calls others crabs, is crab himself

never change /ic/

Objectively speaking >>3552085 is above the average of this sad board

>>3546829
I like pls give sauce good sir

>>3547928
No, but having copying and polishing as an only mean of creation makes you an uninteresting artist, if you can even call him that.

>>3552085
holy shit dude
okay don't worry you asseating firezfag, in a few years you will realize the issues with this piece the least of which is the sparkle and cloud stamp brushes used in the background

>>3552459
To be fair there is a world of difference between sculpting mould and carving a tree. If the selfsuck was done in marble then I would agree.

>>3552629
Let’s see your stuff anon.

I’m honestly baffled how crabs give him so much attentio. If he was so shit no one would care

>>3552655
He only gets attention from crabs because ic begs eat his ass

>>3552656
You are still giving him attention dumbfuck. If you really don’t care about him and consider him the worst just ignore him.

You acting assblasted about firez just proves the point of those begs you despise

>>3547390
He is the very definition of a crab.
People only defend him because: a) they are his patrons, or b)they are waifufags. Usually both.

>>3546812
Man, I wish I could spend that much time a day on drawing

>>3546872
kino

>>3548492
I think it's about people who draw super detailed bodies and extremely animu faces

>>3552615
RandyStarFru1t. Be my guest.

>>3552085
imagine having your taste being controlled by micropeen
yikes

>>3552042
Who's frenchie?

>>3553629
Second this:
>>3552042

>>3546892

>>3546835
I'm dyin

I mean I kinda wanna work out how to do this

But I'm dying holy shit

"build volume"

>>3553928
eh, it's lacking any foreshadowing so the twist feels forced and contrived 1/10

>>3553941
I fucking love this image. Just so fucking funny.

>>3549741
You wasted your money anon.

>>3551737
You forgot, "This was fun!"

>>3552111
>>3552085
>>3552097
>>3552629
>>3553590

I can see that it's not great, but it doesn't look that bad to me. Could someone tell me exactly what's shit about it?

>>3554236
It's okay I dropped out after a semester.

>>3546851
Wew somebody really doesn't like critique

>>3552042
Who's the lips guy?

>>3546835
The ascended form of photobashing

>>3546819
>>3546859
my fucking sides

Thank god we have /AST/ now

>>3546835
Who's the maniac behind this shit

>>3553764

Happy little trees ... for The Emperor!

>>3554036
Don,'t know why but I laughed

>>3554678
back to your containment thread with you

>>3546860
priorities

>>3546861
when dicklips were a thing... then shopping dogs is taking it to another level

>>3554976
What's the matter? Upset because its the truth? That your precious loomis doesn't apply to all circumstances

>>3554243
They probably can't, they are just crabs that like to treat anyone below Ruan Jia as if it's shit just to feel superior to them.
As if knowing that an artist could improve automatically meant that you know more about art than them.

who remembers this thread?

>>3554036
lost

>>3555370
yikes

>>3555370
i like how he did a michelangelo style drawing instead of straight realism, people seldom admit the inherent ugliness in most of his stuff

>>3555040
>loomis doesn't apply
you fucking idiot. you fool.

>>3555040
ever drawn a circle with those little crosshairs through it?
congratulations you've just loomis'd

>>3555370
that 'realistic' figure made me puke
i like his anime though

>>3555370
based teal-chan

>>3555395
thats not how you use loomis LMAO

>>3555418
okay unga bunga, show me how to use loomis without utilizing proportion and perspectiv

>>3550538

>>3555370
I actually like his "realistic" figure

>>3554243
Look at the antomy. The undersized hips, the elbow on the right and so on. It's in no way horrible, but it's not the 'godlike' art I used to think I was seeing at the time. Still better than me though.

>>3554243
>>3556270

it's more so the lighting/shadows. they're inconsistent. the colors are kinda muddy. the overall composition is ok but could be more interesting. still good but not amazing.

compare it to something like pic related. obviously very different styles but it's much cleaner and shows a lot of finesse.

>>3550538
now this is an /ic/ meme

>>3556620
isnt this that guy colorblind

>>3548516
This is actually a good way to learn an art style. If you work for an animation studio, they will have you do this.

>>3556620
>comparing Firez to professional artist who works in industry and draw for 12 years+
Not enough extremes.

>>3552063
The guys sucking himself off represents the state of modern art

Firez here. I really can't understand why you people speak about me in such terms,

I honestly think I'm a piece of shit and I probably will never be good. However I will keep trying so if your aim is for me to quit I'm sorry but I will not do that.

PD: I've never redlined anyone from that forum so that guy is just plain lying

FWIW those two pieces are not done but I'm still glad some of you like it

>>3556669
Also this. If I were to excuse myself I would say that in the 4.9 years of the 5 year that I've been drawing I'd an 8+ hours full time job I also wasa in college for 4 of those years.

I'm 33, self taught. very depressed and live in a shithole. Maybe now that I'm unemployed I will get a bit better ...Maybe

Just stop giving me attention, I wanted to do a sketch for my 4k but I've 4 comms in queue :/

>>3556673
We love you firez pls keep at it

>>3550538
I woke my boyfriend up laughing at this fuck you.

>>3556703
You don't have a boyfriend, stop lying

>>3548516
>>3548518
lmao it was me that found his DA and posted it.

>>3556696
Will do anon.
Thanks for the kind words. I hope you also keep at it <3

>>3547381
his fuckin hands are huge

>>3556705
I do so SHUT UP.

>>3556685
I myself haven't posted on /ic/ for about 3 years and I always thought there was an unnecessary amount of vitriol towards you, more than the average tripfag. I'm in a similar position albeit a year shy, I hope things work out for you. Keep plugging away.

>>3556712
All the better to feel her forms with

>>3555395
The middle axis is supposed to correspond to the brows

>>3556673
>I really can't understand why you people speak about me in such terms,

Don’t you remember the tealguy episode? There are some tards here who’ll bully anyone who’s above a certain skill level. Keep your chin up, you’re doing good

>>3556870
As long as the artist is consistent it can mark anything he wants it to mark.

>>3556673
I love your art man, there’s just certain people on this board who always try to pull others down, especially those who are close to the top. Pretty much every consistently decent artist on this board gets shat on. Don’t let it get to ya.

>>3556906
Not him, but he's been here long enough to have realized what you're saying so don't worry about him.

>>3556730
>>3556906
Thank you guys, I hope the best for you too

>>3556908
Eh...

>>3557013
Come on Firez you've been here as long as I have, by now you should know that /ic/ are filled with a bunch of bitter Women who get their panties in a bunch from other successful Women or Men who draw attractive Women hence why we have the shitstorms from Sakimichan threads, Kyle threads, Illya threads, and who ever remotely draws "questionable" figures that makes them feel like the Roastie cunts they are. In other words don't take stuff to heart from here always remember that you were born with a glorious penis and we practically hit the genetic lottery since Men age like wine and Women age like the sour milk they are.

>>3550132
newfag desu

>>3546818
I don’t get it. They both are fat. They should be happy together.

>>3546847
?

>>3552615

RandyStarFru1t

>>3559186
i remember that one, came out well, did the client guy like it?

>>3559194
OP was THE client guy, if i remember correctly.

>>3559197
you're right, someone in the thread made it for him