/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

To the anon who made the OP pic: Please fix the fucking potato face. It ruins an otherwise great piece.

>>3543117
Not that anon, but what is it about the face that's so bad?
It looks off to me but I can't place it, I want to say its eye width, but on thumbnail its not bad. and I've seen that distance before without it looking weird, is it the mouth?

>>3543120
mouth too wide

>>3543120
Head shape and proportions. Facial features are squished to the bottom of an already deformed head.

how's it looking

>>3543159
Looks fine for a sketch.

>>3543159
>2326x6661
fuck off

>>3543159
that torso is a mess

How do I become not shit?

>>3543159
Cute. Gib blog

>>3543175
>>3543159
samefag.

>>3543177
>someone receives a compliment
>"Impossible, he must be samefagging"

Of course you'd think that you fucking NGMI retard

>>3543177
Why is everytime someone compliment someone they get called samefag? Saw this multiple time now and on this general no less.

>>3543191
Probably because we have shameless faggots who shill their blog for more views and samefag with their cellphones to make it look like someone else is replying so they can reply to themselves their blog on a Taiwanese RuneScape gold farming sweat shop online internet forum.

Just grinding out some eyes from various manga artists, as I feel they're the one part of anatomy I struggle the most with for stylizing.
+ testing out some new brushes

>>3543174
You need more fundamentals. Limit yourself to two main values when shading, one for light and one for shadow. You can play around within those values but one should never dip into values from the other (for example, your reflected light is too strong on the jaw, and shouldn't be lighter than your halftone.)

Work on your understanding of the construction of the features of the face. Start by studying all the forms you have there realistically, then look into how artists stylize these forms, so you can observe not only which they accent or omit, but also HOW the accentuated forms should be constructed based on real-life landmarks, so you don't get them wrong. Also, look a bit into what creates feminine vs masculine traits, and cute vs mature traits. Your mouth is overly wide, the upper lip is flat, the ball of your nose bulbous, your nose is tipped down (the angle of the bottom plane), and your shading indicates a fairly visible plane change at the nasolabial crease, all of which contribute to making the character look older or less feminine.

You gotta work on your understanding of construction as a whole more, that jacket is a mess and I'm assuming it's flat-shaded because you have no idea what forms and planes you should actually have there. Why is one shoulder significantly lower than the other? Where are your top, front, and side planes?

>>3543171
Out of curiosity, what are the faults you find with it? There seems to be too much space between the ribcage and the pelvis, and the shape/angle of her right breast seems odd (why is it dropping so much if her elbow is raised?) but I'm wondering if I'm right on those.

I like the piece overall, to be honest.

>>3543175
Thanks, don't have one yet tho

>>3543206
I've been trying to understand that stuff for years, but I guess I'm just not picking it up. Kind of wonder if I ever will.

>>3543221
What have you been doing?
I dicked around on /ic/ for a couple summers, skimmed loomis and watched a couple proko videos. I did learn a few things and get a bit better (considering the low amount of hours I put into actually drawing and studying).
I came back recently and decided to be much more methodical about my approach. I identified my main weaknesses regarding fundamentals (starting with simpler things, such as draftsmanship and perspective), and started practicing again from the ground up. I've been watching proko videos one by one from the start of his series, actually paying attention to all the information he gives, and it's crazy the amount of stuff I'm picking up.
If you've been drawing for years and are still stuck at the beginner stage, it's likely it's your methodology towards studying that you need to reevaluate.

>>3543189
>>3543191
probably because so many posts have replies of
>omg so amazing gib blog plz
when they're rather mediocre overall

oh my god i literally cannot even

Values nearly finished

>>3543250
Did you trace or something?

>>3543253
Nope

>>3543250
that face is shit. too low, too squashed together.

>>3543253
Makes you even think that is traced?

>>3543225
Shit, what haven't I done...
Considering all of pic related, I still can't draw an attractive stylized face.

>>3543262
*What made

>>3543259
I’ll fix it, thanks

>>3543265
you don't apply studies to personal work

>>3543210
The ribcage itself is already long enough, but also like you mentioned, the tummy space is way too long. Her right breast also looks oddly droopy considering she's raising her right arm.

>>3543250
>>3543255
Blog?

Trying to make my shit less flat. what think anons?

>>3543283
>trying to make my shit less flat
you didn't even try

>>3543288
epic...

>>3543265
Your art is weirdly inconsistent. You have some pieces with okay construction, even some great shading, then next to it have some stuff that's absolutely horrible comparatively.

I don't have a ton of advice for you, since as I've said, I'm just getting back into art myself. But you look like someone who's drawn a lot without ever truly achieving a solid grasp of the fundamentals.

There's a point in art where few books, tutorials or manuals will be able to teach you, and you'll have to make progress through meticulous self-study, and through sharing feedback with your peers of equal (or greater) skill. But you're clearly not at that point yet.

My two suggestions would be to:

1. Pick an art book, or art channel, related to something you feel weak at and would like to improve. Preferably something realistic and not stylized (not Sycra), because I feel like your fundies are halfway there but not solid/confident enough to translate easily into stylization. Go through ALL OF IT. Carefully. I see a lot of beginner mistakes in your art, which means you've missed a lot of important notions and tips/tricks when studying your fundamentals (for example, your reflected light being so bright, or that jacket having no form t all). There is a lot of content readily available for you to assimilate, you just haven't set yourself up to properly assimilate it yet.

2. Once you have started going through 1 and ACTUALLY noticed improvement ("wow, I remembered this trick from this book or video, and it actually makes my stuff look better"), find a new art community to interact with and get feedback from. If you've been on /ic/ for 4 years and no one has been able to explain to you and make you realize your flaws, well... I don't think it matters if the blame is with you or with /ic/, but something between you two ain't working despite your best efforts to make it work, and that means it's time to try a different strategy.

>>3543288
you know that's not what I meant, but thanks for the good laugh

>>3543293
okay but for real, the one on the right isn't that bad, but in both cases its still a bit flat. The overlaps aren't really consistent with what's in front, especially on the poofy things, the left particularly. and you want to keep the curves going with more form to give it more depth.

>>3543297
alrighty thanks for that. I really want to break out of my comfort zone and bring more depth to my drawings. Should I start using perspective more to achieve this?

>>3543292
Thanks for the advice, Anon.

>>3543250

>>3543312
No problem, big.

Posting doodle, idk how to do space lighting. I think light would be very bright and shadows very dark, and it would be mostly be coming straight down?

Posting doodle, idk how to do space lighting. I think light would be very bright and shadows very dark, and it would be mostly be coming straight down? reposting because some correction

>>3543429
You're confusing the surface of the moon with empty space. Shadows are black in space cause there's no atmosphere and nothing to bounce light, but the surface of the moon itself is fairly bright and will definitely bounce light when lit directly. While it's true that there's no atmosphere, artists might still choose to depict some atmospheric perspective to add a sense of depth (and it could come from things like dust particles).
Just look up photos of astronauts on the moon.

my first time inking anyhing in a while, pls be gentle (or don’t)

>>3543439
Thanks frend that makes sense

>>3543473
That's actually pretty damn good.

trying something different, thoughts?

wip

>>3543473
RIP

>>3543630
If you don't draw hands and feet you'll never improve at them, The head is unsettlingly large, Good sense of volume, Gesture is static and awkward
I would do several sketches and only start rendering after you've done one you're happy with because a painting is only as good as the drawing

>>3543667
Thanks

>>3543630
What the heck are you even trying to do? It looks unsettling, just simplify more the faces features, make the eyes bigger and a more cute squashed bean face.

>>3543659
The pose is pretty bland but there's nothing wrong with it really

>>3543659
Blog?

>>3543750
I'm pretty sure it's Godsh0t

critique me daddy

>>3543953
I like your style friend

thanks>>3543953

>>3543953
love the style, but the face of the guy on the floor is kinda hard to distinguish from afar. I thought his cheekbones were the nose lol

>>3544049
this is so good!
do you have a blog?

>>3543265
How about you actually study design and stylization in themselves instead of expecting them to just happen because you did enough photo studies?

>>3544061
https://klinckfoster.tumblr.com/

>>3543659
Nice work.
How do you construct faces? I always have problems with them when it comes to animu something about the cheek and the chin always comes out weird.

>>3543159
Where's the bulge

>>3543196
Nice projection

>>3544049
I don't get what's alternative/stylized about this one. Care to explain?

Feeling pretty good about this so far.

Do you guys feel like her left thigh should be slimmer or thicker?

>>3544049
>>3543659
>>3543473
I really like these

>>3544137
I like big anime heads so I just draw a normal head and make the eyes roughly halfway down, then divide everything below the eyes into thirds for the nose and mouth.

>>3544420
I say it should be longer

I'm not sure which picture to go with. The first one from the left is the original. Opinions?

guys i cant finish anything lol

>>3544568
Stop being scared of committing.

>>3544571
its chronic procrastination honestly :/

>>3543159
needs more detail on the cunny

>>3544568
wow i wish i flipped it sooner

>>3544568
>>3544599

forgot my image, gotta try to salvage this lol

This is kinda old already, but it's one of the few attempts that I've made to draw a dynamic background

Sketcheroos from referoos

>>3543159

Remove this immediately.

>>3543659

>>3543083

I don't really enjoy manga style but man I like those pseudo manga faces Masahiro Ito draws. I mean.. they're not cute animu faces but obviously are influenced by the style.

>>3527285
going to add more layers and glitter blood
>>3527297
lel true
>>3527680
uhh what >>3529140 said i guess
>>3528903
i think i know how youre talking about so maybe

>>3527217
wip

>>3544676
really like the bottom left one, nice work.

>>3544791
What exactly is her right arm doing? (the one that's raised)

>>3544820
>that nose
Oy vey

>>3544629
>dynamic background
>a flat wall with a box and a trashcan painted on it
what

Drawing is hard.

>>3544828
youre really not pulling off that style, go back to studying

>>3543659
youll never be japanese, no matter how much you larp on twitter

>>3545091
t. NGMI

>>3545088
glad to see you finished it frend; torso below the milkies) still looks flat and stiff though, specially the belt

>>3545091
I hope one day I'll be good enough that people start digging up random unrelated shit and blowing it up just to criticize me

>>3543659
>>3544791
>tfw not this good
i always want to cry

>>3544438
As in, the eyes are located at half the sphere, and the nose and mouth are 1/3 distance from the bottom of the sphere respectively? I'm a little confused

>>3545088
ay blog?

>>3544791
>draw a dark character
>add random highlights from sunlight
I'm not a big fan of this meme. It feels like a very cheap way to add contrast.

>>3545217
it's just sunlight going through palm leaves though
how is it a meme wtf

>>3544420
how can you fuck something like this with a clear reference?

>>3545088
rei skinwalker

>>3544828
Drop it please, it doesn't look nice

>>3545147
Ears nor aligned

>>3545240
Can you elaborate?

>>3544676
i thought you said you quit art

>>3545060
What would you suggest I do instead then?

>>3544420
>>3543481
thanks anons

>>3543664
>tfw woke up at ass o’ clock to play one more time before servers are gone forever
they deserved better than this :’^(

Hey famalam! How you living?

>>3544546
Hahahahahaha what the fuck

>>3545442
Face is floating, hand looks like it doesn't have fingers, clothes don't work like that around boobs. Cute coloring, but maybe there's too much noice on the hairy part of the coat, you can use that brush but not that much

>>3545445
got any insightful comments other than weak trolling?

>>3545047
>>3544820
beat me to it damn it

>>3543083

>>3544546
i cant tell if that leg on the right is really a leg or a HUGE fucking penis

Fuckin anime heads and eyes how do they work

>>3545540
I like this anon, but what's she holding in her right hand? looks like a vibrator

>>3545043
i wish i knew

>>3545091
;d

>>3545213
don't look up to it too much, there's problems everywhere but to answer your question-- half way down the entire face, not just the sphere. When facial features are shoved on the lower half of the face it looks cute to me so I usually do it unless a character is supposed to look older. I wish I could find you a tweet I saw recently with a pretty good tutorial but if you're using the sphere and cone method to draw your head then the middle line of the sphere generally is the top of the eye. Here's some heads from Jane Mere.

>>3545481
>clothes don't work like that around boobs
Explain further please. Are you saying that the breast is set incorrectly or ??
>face is floating
I don't think so, like are you saying that the face needs to come backwards into the head more or that the eye isn't set correctly? Face floating is vague.

>>3545573
>half way down the entire face, not just the sphere.
Ah I see that now, still unsure about nose and mouth but it's clearer now
What is this cone and sphere method? I only know to use a sphere and "slice" it in sections, basically Loomis
I try to adapt it to anime by rearranging but without guidelines it's hit or miss

>>3545595
ignore him, its both right and wrong for clothes to take the shape of the breast rather than draping over them, its not realistically possible but it looks better in anime style 99% of the time

>>3545609
This is what the character reference sheet looks like. Its not incorrect. I have to be very critical of the critiques I get here because you have retards giving flat out bad advice mixed in with people much better than myself who I could really learn from. Frankly I would like details on what I did wrong and less of this vague 'oh this looks wrong on an imaginary humanoid' type of thing.

need help with this pose

>>3545442
The fur parts are too detailed compared to everything else which makes it look awful. Mostly talking about the lineart of it

>>3545442
that arm is realy fucked

>>3545565
nah,she's holding a can I think
thanks I like your drawing too.She's a bit tilted right

>>3544304
>what's alternative/stylized
nose

>>3545622
this is why we get less critiques, because people dont actually try to understand them.
Im not this guy>>3545481
but i agree with him except for the fur. i think the fur is the most well rendered while the others were really bad
The face looks floating because it doesn't look like its attached to the neck properly. The hands lack bone definition like the knuckles and all that other shit so instead of looking like a hand it looks like a stump. The folds/stretch of the fabric around the boobs looks extremely bad because you didnt even bother following the form of her breasts.
Other stuff i noticed
-the arm- proportions are wrong anatomy is wrong but its too much to explain so just look at an anatomy book or look at your own arm in that pose.
-the face perspective-lol what happened to her eye socket. that right eye is sliding into oblivion. Lol its even reaching all the way to her jaw. i swear if she looked straight up front she would look like sid from ice age. look for a ref.
the hair- the front is too heavy compared to the back so it looks like a badly made wig.
other cloth folds- you dont consider their form so the shading looks flat

>>3545114
I'm still polishing it but thanks, will revisit the belt.
>>3545215
https://s-kq.tumblr.com/ or 6275562 on pixiv
>>3545244
Please don't say that, i'm weak against horror.

>>3545923
I really like your Persona 5 pieces anon

>>3543331
Kek

>>3545952
Mid girl has 3 boobs

>>3545952
So when do you plan on moving up from these messy scribbles?

>>3545952
add water for maximum hardon

Posting today's doodle. Mostly doing studies this week but can't stop myself from drawing crap

>>3545952
The leftmost girl feels really out of place in the composition. But otherwise nice, I just wish you care more about fixing and polishing up your stuff

>>3545653
too stiff boy, you have to feel the music

>>3545869
Im not your case study man, I have always taken crits on here happily and been thankful. Only recently have I gotten them and they have been trash. Thanks for the input, I see your point, and I am reworking it as we speak. I just wanted to hear it in detail and nothing vague because if I could see the problem I would have fixed before I posted it, right?

>>3545991
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh-Hjj8T9o

>>3545991
and more examples. also tried to do what i think your pose should look like. Sorry if I suck, just do more gestures and loosen up frend

>>3545995
Im the original Anon, I just pointed out the mistakes, you want ways to how to solve them and that's ok, but I didn't have the time as the other Anon did, and he explained it perfectly tho, I just gave you another perspective, the eye of the beholder and all that, you could see how to fix your own mistakes. I could have been more specific, sorry I guess. But fuck off

>>3546013
That's a man's body, study some children Anon, don't get into jail tho

>>3545952
>remember rubens?
>try not to gasp when you see how he draws now

>>3546013
Also, kek'ed

>>3545970
What kind of studies do you do?

>>3545991
>>3546016
thanks internet stranger

>>3546046
usual beg stuff; I draw hand and feet daily, maybe some gestures and at least 1 figure study. pic is today's study

>>3545952
stop fucking posting you don't take critique

Changed some things around, going to be done with this for now.

>>3546126
looks worse

>>3545091
kek stay mad filthy westerner :^)

Guys you've gotta help me out. I am very stressed out because I am incredibly shit at drawing. I recently came up with a character called Acrimona, and I now want to make a webcomic featuring her, but the problem is, I am shit at drawing.

So basically I am asking for guidance. Is this even a good design to begin with? How should I draw Acrimona in order to make her look interesting? What should I study (I have a lot to learn but based off of what I'm showing you what should be my next step)? How can I make sure my future webcomic isn't shit?

https://imgur.com/a/0ydb8V7
These are the original scribbles that lead to the creation of her idea. Also if you want to know more about Acrimona's personality or what I intend the comic to be like, just ask and I'll autistically reply.

>>3545088
>>3544791
How long have you been drawing?

>>3546025
I wanted specifics and not how to fix it. I mean I wasn't asking too much, if you can comment you can explain further. Next time just dont bother and save yourself the time I guess. No need to be salty friend.

>>3545923
first post is a copy of rei lmfao skinwalker

>>3545088
you even copy the way rei17 does her little caption cards my god

>>3545088
How do you learn to render/draw like this?

>>3545765
This looks very nice so far I hope to see it finished!

>>3546126
I think it looks better now, also i like the rendering so far its really clean looking
Ignore people that just say "it sucks" without actual critique

>>3546212
Cute but that hand on the left girl seems pretty messed up

>>3546125
I may not respond, but I pay attention to them. Im usually just unsure what to say back, so I just dont say anything

>>3543292
Any recommendations on channels? I would like to start out at the complete beginning. But I know I suck at gesture, construction and perspective is my highest weakness by far.

hey /ic, lets get our pictures taken!

>>3546295
Wow nice lines and shading, blog?

just combo crit me i'm caught in a loop and need direction

shitty digital effort and sketch to follow

>>3546343

screwing around with ink

Been working on this style a lot recently. Let me know what people think.

>>3546295
Very stiff from the waist down, look like she has a stick up her arse, very cute tho will let her bully

>>3546295
Ironic choice of meme ham considering your art

>>3546350
The ear it's supposed to be inclined in the opposite angle, it follows the same angle as the jaw; feet construction is not appealing, specially the fingers; her left hand is in a very awkward position try it yourself and it's kinda disproportionated too; The monster could some more variation in its thickness, so it doesn't look like wierd fat snake, but more like a mass of gross or whatever, idk how to explain it, just make it more interesting in its silhouette
It's traditionally, you probably can't change it, but keep it In mind for next time, cute tho

>>3546355
Cool, but is she supposed to have cyclop eye?

How can I make this pose better/less boring?

>>3546013
Blog?

>>3546384
Arch the spine.

hit me hard bois

>>3546403
>hit me hard
Someone already did it to her face.

>>3546399
better? or nah

im not good at this lol

>>3544568
im not sure how i want to render this

>>3546013

>>3546198

The character design look good enough to me

>How can I make sure my future webcomic isn't shit?

if this is your first, it will be shit no matter what. So just start, and learn as you do it, so it become less and less shit as you go.

>>3546212
Blog?

>>3546212
up your line game

>>3546568
Super cute! Have a Twitter?

>>3546570
no anon

>>3546403
Would hit hard

>>3546568
Cute, would lewd, blog?

>>3546295
CUTE

>>3543199
try drawing them in pairs. it will be more worth your time.

>>3546576
http://ukanon.tumblr.com/
everything is bad

>>3546595
Since when did /ic/ get so many good artist?

>>3546599
no >:(

>>3546599
Probably just summerfags. Don't worry, we'll go back to our shitty crabbing selves in a few weeks.

>>3546595
>everything is bad
Stupid, you are one of the best artists that post on /ic/, even without comparing you to others on this board it's clear you have skill. don't be so ashamed of your work. I wish I could draw anime like you, even your studies are better than my shit.

>>3546604
I hope not, this board needs this

>>3546595
>>3546689
Oh and also about those studies on your blog, are those poses broken down in sections taken from reference? It looks so clean and precise, I never even tried that in my studies, I just copy the outlines trying to mind the proportions

>>3545540
Very stiff pose. Look up photos of people sitting.

>>3545088
You got so damn lazy on the cape thing.

Which of the default brushes work best for greyscale painting in CSP?

>>3546689
>how to tell that someone doesnt draw

>>3546781
>how to tell someone is shitposting
No idea what you're implying here
If you think that anon isn't skilled and one of the better artists on this board idk what to tell you other than to show me where these even better artists are, because I want to see their work

what's wrong here? what makes this bad?

>>3546816
i mean, if that's the artist's style that's their style

but the anatomy on the bottom left is a little off

>>3546803
doesnt matter what I think, he says he's shit then he's shit, he's not where he wants to be and he is working to improve, you giving him praise is pointless

>>3546369
Nah the other eye is bandaged up and covered by her hair. I can see what you mean though

>>3546816
It looks good to me.

But what might make it look bad is that in some places the anatomy looks wrong and the wrongness don't look like a deliberate choice of the artist.

Like in the bottom right one, I can't tell for sure if she is a amputee or the artist draw her left leg wrong.

I'm not used to drawing overly-cartoony things, so I'm having quite a bit of trouble with this character.
Top drawing is the first design I did about a year ago, with the intent of her being easy to animate. She's supposed to be a mascot for my cousin's robotics team, so I tried to make her look "friendly." Their team's colors are purple and gold, but I don't know how to incorporate that into her color scheme without looking tacky.
Backstory wise, basically she's a princess (hence the third outfit) who rejected her roots and decided to reinvent herself as a fighter robot. I'm attempting a redesign, but I feel like she ended up with unnecessary details, while looking like the bastard child of XJ9 and a Tron character. I'm stuck on the palette, too.

What brush looks best when drawing generic anime eyelashes in paint tool sai

Please dont flame me

>>3546403
Proportions are meme thick to the point where it stops looking appealing

Values are pretty flat

>>3546824
>>3546956
i know it could just be my style, but i'm just not sure if i've improved at all since last year. eh maybe i can get out of whatever rut i'm in

>>3546971
hard round anon, it works for everything

>>3546978
Is hard round a paint tool sai brush setting? I thought that was PS?

>>3546975
>my style
you mean your lack of skill and lazyness you filthy ngmi.

If you want to gauge your improvement why don't you use the good old fundamentals to measure it? proportions, perspective and form, anatomy, value etc.
But then again I guess you don't actually care for improvement and would rather continue smearing digital shit on a canvas and call it style

>>3546975

I think that the others ones looks much better than this one.

>>3546986
not him but work on your reading comprehension

idk what to do with the background

>>3546463
Thank you so much.

How bad am I fucking up this perspective?

>>3547212
fucking resize you pos

>>3547215
I was taking a shit bro.

>>3547221
something looks off about it, good to practice perspective

*belch* 5 minutes

>>3546595
Come back to las ;_;

I've only recently figured out this form of shading & colouring, do you guys have any tips on improving it? Especially when it comes to making it cleaner.

>>3543083
let me go back to bed please

>>3546595
>everything is bad
no shit, you have no concept of color or brush economy

>>3547350
how about you learn to paint

>>3547350
Not until you smile for the camera

>>3543159
<3 great

help me out here

>>3547158
You forgot his dome thingy

>>3547221
The head is not in perspective, perspective, that's why it looks flat

>>3547328
>this form of shading
What?

>>3547355
Hahaha!

>>3547438
Why is that skull better than everything in the drawing?

>>3543429
done with this one desu

>>3547452
I'm not digging the colour of the earth, idk why tho

>>3547442
>to infinity and beyond!

>>3547451
years of drawing them in notebooks and shit

>>3547449
>thinks im joking
>lmao dude
ive got news for you my kid

>>3547438
shouldn't the skull be more stylized?

>>3547463
post work crab

>>3547459
yeah you're right it seemed off to me too. made it more saturated, i think it's at least a bit more bearable, but desu i've no clue

>>3547463
responding to jace in the first place is what we should all be laughing at

>>3547452
Fuck you stop using black

>>3547438
Have you flipped the canvas yet

>>3547472
oh no

>>3543159
There shouldn't be a thigh gap from that angle. If she did, she,d have a concave ass.
Mouth is too low on the face and a little less detail on the nose would be beneficial.
Too much perspective on the feet on an otherwise flat image.

>>3547471
it's not black, it's empty space frend

>>3547472
>>3547474
I feel retarded now but I fixed the face and arm
what I really cant get is the legs, specifically the left

>>3543083
So to draw in "alternative art/stylization" you first need to correctly draw people, right? I wanna become Murata and do cool stuff but my drawings looked to plain so I'm practicing on doing models and anatomy (which still looks off)

>>3547496
>I wanna become Murata
See you in 8 years+

>>3546424
if you actually nailed the perspective the stiffness would be acceptable
the head is horribly placed

>>3547468
what you have is mostly fine, the moon looks tiny but that's ok
a further horizon and soft shadows in the background from big valleys/craters would make it look like the real moon if that's what you're after

the main issue is earth is way too dark.
photos like pic related (with a full value range) are keyed really high to the point earth looks pure white

>>3547564
forgot pic ofc

>>3547565
That's the other moon, wtf are you talking about?

>>3547564
meant to say it's keyed low, but actually I'm not sure how bright the moon is when you're standing on it
impossible to know from photos

Is crayon a good tool for drawing

>>3547589
do it anon, be the only guy to work with crayon for decades and make crayola masterpieces

>>3547589
It works.

>>3547589
Only real crayon not that fake digital stuff

>>3547564
>>3547565
>>3547570
I did this in the end, to be ache thank you very much for the help but I suck and would rather move on ;_;

>>3546827
What? No
If some big famous artist like idk Frazetta said he's shit would it be true? No
He thinks he is shit but he is objectively above average and then some for both this board and all the bad artists you see on the internet in general
He's just insecure

How do I draw sleeves? I'm aware the hand is wrong.

>>3547350
please consider suicide

>>3547463
don't interact with the manicdepressive

>>3547496
To stylize you need to study construction, anatomy, perspective and design.
If you ignore a single one of these you're NGMI

>>354774
thumb on wrong side

I think flipping the picture makes the composition better (because I drew most of it facing that way). Do you agree?

>>3547604
There was actually that adorable crayon Cirno guy.

>>3547589
ash ketchum is that you?

>>3548013

>>3548010
>autodesk
woah, is this 3d?
Joke aside, the neck is a little long m8

>>3547640
looks good pretty good anon

>>3547917
You're just flipping the canvas, you're literally doing nothing.

>>3547917
looks better because westerners read from left to right so its more comfy for us to start with the face higher up and follow the diagonal to the foot

youre posting on pixiv so it probs wont have the same effect on them

>>3547446
As in a more realistic style of shading. My older stuff looks a bit more minimalistic in comparison.

WIP

>>3548170
Le flute musume

help me fix 18 guys

>>3548170
lmfao when did miku start posting here again

>>3548170
the same potato face as the op image

>>3548170
>>3548298
Yeah did you not retain any advice from that nice anon did who edited your last piece?

>>3548298
Am I the only one that really likes the face? I also like the face in Op's pic.

>>3548155
Westerners form a significant part of my following, though they are likely the kind who read right-to-left manga a lot. Thank you for the explanation of this effect, that might be it. I'll check it once again when I color it.

>>3548307
I like it too, but I don't like the face in the OP.

>>3548304
what edit

>>3548317

>>3548319
The shoulder wings are not a good edit, though. They don't work with the original angle, and I agree with the original artist if he likes his wings closer to the center of mass.

>>3548326
IIRC the anon who made the edit wasn't familiar with the character.

>>3548334
yeah so the artist could ignore the wing change and still change the face and arms and boob

>>3548298
>>3548304
>>3548307
Fugg looks like I did it again, there must be some fundamental flaws with the way I construct face, I need to get some dose of loomis after this

>>3548352
>dose of loomis

there's your problem

>>3548356
Not him but if he really does study from Loomis he will learn how to better convey form in space regardless of style.

>>3548010
literally never gonna make it no improvement at all in the last few years

Is my anatomy/perspective fuked in some way before I go full retard?

>>3548472
Yeah, you need to redo the lower half of her body. I'd say the legs too, but I have been unable to fix them without fucking them up even more. Anyway, it definitely doesn't look like he is standing on the ground. Try to look up something on sketchfab.

>>3548472
Just fucking finish it I wanna see it reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>3547463
>most famous artist of all time
I mean, come on anon.

>>3548142
you are too nice frend

>>3548472
h-hot

>>3548170

looking at the top of the image looks like the water is at her knee, looking at the bottom looks like it is at her neck.

what kind sorcery is this!?

>>3548503
Yeh, I fixed it, I think, thanks. I'll update later, I'm phoneposting

>>3548674
Yes, I kinda see it too, it a problem with the perspective lines. Also the fish' are floating over her >>3548352

>>3548472
NEVER go full retard

>>3544791
Thats a sten gun right? Those guns have longer, skinny magazines.

i'm going for disney & still kind of anime. crit?

>>3548833
p cute, i like the style, good anatomy

>>3548869
really good, you've def hit the middle ground

although the lower lip is kind of eating her chin area and the ear is a little high

>>3548899
ah fuck, didn't notice. thank you i'll adjust!

>>3548833
Fuck... My hearth

>>3548869
What reference are you using for the "Disney" style?

>>3548869
Im not all that familiar with Disney so take this with a grain of salt, but the style tends to lean towards bigger cheeks and eyes. Also, the ear is a bit too high.

>>3549167
You should look into Sakimichan's process. Looks like you're kinda struggling with keeping things in place.

>>3549175
please elaborate

Someday i will be good enough bros
>>3546203
2 years of beg pencil doodle then 2 years of drawing digital and rendering
So 4 years i guess
>>3546225
Since my idol doesn't release much tutorials and absolutely no live drawing, i mostly eyeballing and experiments to see what work for me.

>>3549188
Your strokes, man. They're messy and unconfident, as if you're trying to let the strokes do the work but it's not working out here.

>>3549146
is this supposed to be a caricature of that cardi b chick

>>3549167
good perspective, good stylized anatomy, and an overall decent piece

however it desperately needs hard edges and stronger silhouette work

>>3549271
>good enough
What's your goal? I'd like to be at your level, I'll tell you that for free

>>3549271
whats your twitter?

>>3549167
Any advice for someone who wants to be like you?

>>3548370
he does art as a hobby, you're probably jealous he's making a shitton of bank while you're here sitting doing nothing. Post your work lol

thoughts

>>3549714
Heads are literal infant sized and the feet are too wide

>>3549669
aim higher. u dont wanna be like me

a new thread >>3549842