/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3543459
Just trace it

>No understanding of anatomy, it's all just made up forms that almost look human
>adding shaodows with black instead of hue shifting, makes the skin look dead
>perspective is wrong
>proportions are off, her torso and neck are too long, legs too short, arms different length
>that face looks like ET and not a human head
>values are bad, there's no occlusion shadows
>rendering is not good, the artist has rendered stuff in a way they think it should be done and not actually thought about how the light and forms are interacting
>idea is weak, why is she naked with a sword? what is that kirby?
>cast shadows are not correct

The artist probably had a lot of fun with it and maybe learned alot, stop bullying

>>3543464
He was paid $75 for it.

>>3543459
all of them

>>3543459
Forgot to give the fish eyes.

literally the definition of polishing a turd

>>3543459
It doesn’t matter what others think, only what the artist would take from it and whether they were satisfied.

>>3543459
honestly asking: why has this thread been deleted in the past? which is the particular rule it was breaking?

>>3543459
Forgot to use Loomis

>>3543521
I came here to post this.

He picked up a wacom pen in the first place when he should have been reaching for the rope.

Not knowing anatomy & not posing yourself.

Biggest example: Top hand was drawn too small in order to show the face, but the arm should be bent the only way it can to allow a person to hold a hand above their face like that while laying down, which is with the elbow NOT making contact with the ground, but the girl's elbow is touching the ground, so the hand WOULD cover the face from that perspective, but that would ruin the image, so they wrongly made the hand smaller rather than redraw the entire angle of the camera + have the elbow correctly off the ground.

2nd biggest example: Similar problem explains why the belly is "too long"... it would normally have been blocked by the upper left leg foreshortening, but rather than redraw the perspective/pose entirely, find a way to be satisfied with most of the bellow/torso being "blocked" they just lengthened it, etc...

3rd: Head/chin; anatomy is just absent. At least one study of a tilt-up Loomis head could have got them a basic idea, instead it's just a ball with chin-face pasted on top.

Every time I see this image I get so engrossed by it. I notice something new every time.
It looks like a doll that's slowly deflating to me.

I am no anatomy expert.
The proportions are off. The hands and feet are too small. The hair isn't connecting to the base of the skull where it meets the neck. So it looks like she is bald wearing a wig. The weight in her breast are not being spread out. That arm holding the sword is too long. The sword looks like a pipe and not a katana, which I assume that's what its suppose to be.
I didn't know how to make the legs better. And I can't draw anime.
Wtf is she stepping on?

The artist doesn't know how to draw, and made a mistake when they decided to render on top of a poor drawing.

Its so obvious it was made as a joke

>>3543704
he sure showed us! lol

>>3543487
yeah really XD

Looks like a grey alien mid body snatch.

>>3543459
This may be a good training for noobs, actually. Sometimes the best way to avoid mistakes is to see mistakes.

>>3543496
>which is the particular rule it was breaking?

It's too fucking ugly

>>3543579
your drawing is not perfect but better. i think he has no understanding of forms thats his main issue

the artist who drew this is like an alien who was told what a human looks like but had never seen one before, and tried drawing it from his head

It's super artificial

>>3543459
baby feet

>>3543459
Breathing.

>>3543459

>>3543925
Holy hell kek

>>3543579
left has more soul though, yours is literally soulless

>>3543459
Literally everything about this is wrong, from the structure to the rendering. There is nothing in this that's done well.

even if it was well executed it would still be a piece of shit

>>3543459
Pretty hard pose to draw for beginner. Tried to do my version and it is hard indeed (work in progress I guess...)

all the attempts ive seen to correct this suck ass congrats on the original creator its the ultimate troll to keep people looking stupider and stupider
and yes, I will take a crack at it to make myself look like an ass as well

>>3543466
Sause? Is this statement real?

>>3543579
THE absolute state

>>3543459
i wonder if this guy knows his image has been posted here and laughed at for weeks now.

>>3543459
He had hope

>>3545458
I think this image is an optical illusion. A human being could not hold this pose on an actual dock or pier, with one leg in the water, one foot resting on a post/support, one arm gripping a sword embedded in the pier, like i don't think theres a way to show this as natural and realisitic

>>3545450
>sword in the other hand
>flipped pose
>no discman
what a retard. lol

>>3543459
blog?

>shit skin
>brown nipples

>>3545692
relax, dickhead, its wip. lol

How can such bad artists have so "completed" rendering? all i can manage is a half assed sketches but with correct proportions

>>3546341
>work in progress
>already at color
Nothing's more pathetic than an incompetent retard trying to cash in someone's being bad to get some epeen points

>>3546345
Honestly anon, being able to finish rendering a piece even if you know it is shit, is what makes these bad artists excel so fast. You need to start making finished pieces or you will be stuck.

>>3543459

This image legit makes me physically sick every time I look at it.

>>3543459
accidentally erased the top of the eyes on that pink blob thing

wtf dude

>>3546346
What's wrong with having colour in a WIP?

>>3546346
You’re rediculous. Its hard pose to draw, i tried it and got some exp. And you’re just shitting all around with strange accusations. Keep calm and do some drawing, it’ll help you.

>>3545677
Just goes to show that artists should enact the pose they want to draw before they draw it.

much better meme than merc wip

>>3543579
Peteru/lucieth

succ

>>3546490
Ignore the crab, the guy thinks you imperatively need to add the colour at the end and there's no other way of doing things. That should give you a hint as to what his skill level is.

>>3546904
>>3545450
Also I like what you did there. It's not perfect but it's not bad at all.

>>3546908
>>3546908
Thanks) Totally agree it’s far from perfect to say the least. Anyway it’s a good practice for me I guess.

>>3545450
Nice work anon, your pose looks a lot better than the original.
Ignore the crab, you can tell by how he only speaks in memes that he is retarded.

As a critique,he position of the right leg looks kind of unatural, with the feet sticking out and the whole leg at an angle. Why not make it aligned with the body? Also, her head is up as if she was on a pillow.

>>3543579
The head seems small in your drawing. Other than that I can't really critique much else being a noob at anatomy.

>>3547174
Keep doing the /ic/ 'challenges' and ignore the crabs, it's fun and it's practice.

>>3547194
Yes, leg is definitely off. Tried to pose my leg in that position and it's impossible to. I endeavored to keep some similarity in pose, but it looks it brings too many visual errors.
>>3547227
Initially head was even smaller than that! I enlarged it a bit, but may be not enough. It's hard to say for sure. My eyes are used to look at anime styled heads and they bigger than "normal" heads sometimes.
>>3547252
I will)

>>3547975
Good luck tovarish)))

>>3543459
I honestly could not decide if she was pregnant or not.

Anyway, pretty much everything was wrong from anatomy to perspective to rendering, so here's a really terrible basic sketch where I tried to do slightly better anatomy at least.

>>3548669
lmao fag yours is very close to being as bad as the original in terms of perspective and here you are talking out of your ass like a big deal

damn this pose is incredibly difficult to draw. i'm totally giving up on that stage left foot too, fuck that shit haha

>>3543579
>>3545450
>>3548669
>>3548718
kind of interesting how every attempt at this showcases each artist's weaknesses

>>3548723
yeah it's a fun exercise, surprisingly. made me want to attempt drawing more complicated poses with foreshortening. turns out ic actually IS good for something

>>3543459
sagggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

He didn't make it lewd enough.

>>3548783
based

>>3548783
based

>>3548802
what does that mean, senpai? :33

>>3543459
not investing like 5 minutes in design doll before starting

>>3548891
I'm starting to think this perspective is just janky on some advanced principle or something because it looks awkward even here.

>>3548891
Oh, it looks like it's in Ortho view. Try switching to perspective.

>>3543459
The one thing that fascinates me most is the huge bloated belly of this...thing.

>>3548952
she has roid gut

>>3548909
isometric is the best aproximation, since in OP pic parallel lines doesn't even converge towards the horizon

also, isometric gives you the impression that the girl is being observed from a long distance with a telescopic lens, which helps to construct a story for the illustration

This is a fun thread idea: post some absolute abominations that barely make sense, and have anons try to decipher and "fix" it.

>>3545450
Rendered it in more "realistic" style. Changed leg and head. Cant say where I go with that. WIP as usual X)

>>3550689
is not bad but, what's the point if it doesn't even resemble the original anymore? different pose, hair, facial expression, paraphernalia, etc. you could had as well started your own thing from scratch

it's harder to draw because the ideas presented in the initial image are bad and stupid.

why lift the leg closest to the viewer? you get a less clear shot at the vag. why does she have a sword and a CD player in that pose? she's not the least bit threatening. wouldn't it make more sense if she were luxuriating with a bottle of booze and listening to music in the sun?
why's her hand like that?
so i changed a bunch of shit. i don't have the skills to depict what i see in my head, but i enjoyed the challenge of trying.

>>3550754
I think she was supposed to be pregnant though(?)

>>3550766
even more nonsensical

>>3550689
someone casn have purple hair and still be "realistic"
youve got some weird inconsistencies (what are those knees and elbows?) makes me think you referenced half of this and phoned in the rest

>>3550730
I analyzed original work, its errors in perspective, anatomy, color scheme and composition and then tried to fix all of that. Just an exercise. So that's the point. To maintain original story should add all those props. Maybe I'll do it later.
>>3550800
I agree, purple hair not contradicts realistic render. Maybe I change color scheme to get original hair color if I'll manage to do it appealing.
Inconsistencies are understandable. I'm not a pro, it's WIP and just a training. So nothing surprising. And one of the subjects of training is to do pose out of my head. So I didn't use any refs for this.

>>3548783
>didn't consider refraction
0/10
not gonna make it

>>3548783
actually good. nice one anon

maybe i'll paint this

>>3550873
I mean, if I could draw what is on the right here >>3548783, I’d consider myself pretty set.

>>3550907
you got the leg right dude, nice...
I feel this pose/angle is cursed though, it always seems off

>>3551153
>>3550907
>>3550754
>>3550689
>>3548891
>>3548783
>>3548718
>>3548669
>>3545450
>>3543579
none of your shit works compare to the beauty and grace portrayed within the original portrait. it was perfect and you're ruining it with your fail copies.

>>3551184
thanks for the (you) my dude

Everybody needs to accept there is such thing as a bad pose.

>>3551199
i won't be fully convinced until some cute girls post pictures of themselves doing the cursed pose

>>3548891
just tried this program

its fucking AIDS. i'd rather use MMD

>>3543459

>>3551422
Well yeah, even bad art is still art.

>>3543459
I'm convinced the Devil made this image and implanted it into /ic/ to destroy this board.

>>3551477
WE NEED MORE TIME
WE'LL CAPTURE THE ELEGANCE OF THE POSE ONE DAY

>>3551481
Give it up and go back to your boxes, Anon. No mere human could ever capture the magic of the original picture. None of your redlines or redraws will ever match the wicked quality of the original art. This piece was cursed to be one of a kind. It is 100% unreproducible. It cannot be improved- it is already perfect.

>>3551481
it will NEVER look natural. piers and docks aren't that short. human beings can not comfortably hold a sword while laying down. you cannot possibly comfortably angle your pelvis away from your hips. the chick in the image has scoliosis and a massively long spine, in addition to a ton of other problems

its literally an optical illusion but i think the comically small pier/dock means it will never look natural even if u changed the pose

>>3548891
or wasting like 2 hours in daz. i like the result, but shit is unintuitive and clunky af

>>3551547
the boobs are still wrong they look like theyre unaffected by gravity right now

>>3551557
>>3551547
is great besides that

>>3551557
i think its a 3d model

>>3550689
how do i paint like you

>>3543579
>I am no anatomy expert
it shows

>>3551559
stop reposting this retarded neoweebs shitorials

>>3551654
>>3551654
if you hate anime then why are you here
youre like a vegan in a butcher shop retard

>>3550689
Nice brush strokes.

>>3551658
>4chan is anime
Maybe fucking 13 years ago

>>3551609
Well, that's the easy one.
As you can see I took my pretty meh pose from my first attempt as a foundation, then selected render reference and palette I want to get (for this version I used one of the paintings of John Waterhouse) and then just tried to repeat the impression.
>>3551669
Thanks) It's Photoshop and for me it was painfully difficult to get realistic stroke from it. Maybe I don't know some secret technic for that kind of task. Or maybe I just should use Corel Painter instead :|

>>3548891
Is this exported and rendered in a different program?

>>3551673
Why do these niggers always say "hurr get off 4chins if you dun likez the animes"?

>>3551712
For (you)'s probably. I don't know.

tried me best

>>3543459
This made me realize how bad I am at drawing certain things

>>3551762
NOO

fugg

>>3551547
why didn't you just do the pose irl and take pictures like I did

>>3551156
people keep placing it resting on the dock but I don't think that's what the artist was trying to do

>>3551184
you must be the visual autist's father

>>3550689
nice

>what's the point if it doesn't even resemble the original
anon the original is 110% shit

>>3551907
meant to also reply to this
>>3550730

>>3551205
>>3551848
pics, anyone? plz respond

>>3551907
the original is shit but the perspective is also more technically difficult to draw than the pic you called "nice"

>>3551762
I know this is a joke but that looks hairy as fuck

>>3543459
the pose is cursed. It's impossible to pose like that. Every attempt made looks weird as fuck

>>3543459
tfw ic gets tricked into actually drawing

>>3551697
pretty sure that's the default matcap at the lowest quality level

>>3551939
You’re right, original perspective combined with pose is more difficult to draw. But as I altered the pose (cause it was ugly), I chose new perspective, which, I thought, suits new pose better. Without that accent on space between the legs.

>>3551658
I'll never not have a massive belly laugh when I see this photo. It's a fact too, anyone is free to leave if they don't respect the history of this place.

t. 30 year old boomer

>>3552070
seems more like you just wanted to stay in your comfort zone

>>3543464
crazy, because he was paid around 75 doleritos for it.

>>3552084
Well, maybe you’re right. though can’t say i felt that comfort ) But I think I didn’t push myself as I could either. I’m pretty lazy after all.

>>3551658
i said neoweeb you faggot nigger retard jesus christ why is everyone stupid nowadays

>>3552124
source or bullshit

>>3543459
Born.

>>3552303
savage

>>3548718
That's a yikes from me

lol

This actually ended being an interesting thread.

>>3548669
Try to get cleaner lines even in the sketch phase. Messy sketching is a meme and will hinder your progress because you aren't sure if your lines are in the right place or not. If you force yourself to be clean, you'll force yourself to be accurate.

>>3543459
Welp, here's mine

>>3553747
i like what you did with the foot on the pink monster thing. still don't understand what the original author intended with that

>>3543459
The thumbnail made it look like she was prego

Best one

>>3553945
Which one. You talking about lewd >>3548783

>>3553747
Why is she holding a giant thumbtack

>>3543459
None, it's perfect /thread

>>3551393
whats mmd?

>>3554337
Mikumikudance it's a free animation program

>>3548672
i'm dying help

>>3551547
This is 3D? Looks like a painting.

>>3543459

why are you guys bullying tumblr kids ?

>>3554905
HOW does that look even remotely like a painting. You're looking at 3d/photobashed art too much anon

>>3554905
a render of a daz studio 3d model
if your level is good enough you could use it to do a sneaky overpaint, and nobody would ever notice

>>3551781
People who draw like this are giving critique and bashing the original?!