/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Anime Tutorial Sites:
https://www.pixiv.net/howto
https://sensei.pixiv.net/
https://www.palmie.jp/

Books:
https://yande.re/forum/show/10527

Sankaku Complex Tags: https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/?tags=color_trace
>how-to_guide, character_sheet, expression_chart, turnaround, concept_art, production_art, color_trace, anime_coloring, fake_screenshot, 80s, 90s

Head Drawing Tutorials:
Steve Huston: https://youtu.be/2T7cDY7YDsg
http://babelab.blogspot.com/2011/11/feature-creep-constraining-face.html
Doxy 1: https://youtu.be/b69fyAZGl50
Doxy 2: https://youtu.be/asL9PxCUEiw
Doxy 3: https://youtu.be/UZvEzjYYQFE
Ahmed Aldoori Hair: https://youtu.be/-SYIPBS2F0k

Real-Time:
DokiDoki Drawing: https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY-tGAhulrOzRd6n1mLZwSg/videos
Pixiv One: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLulf7UObD28VWM2kRb7keI6_lbxQgm4jC
AnimeSijyuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRYuHKwhgfCighvhR3n151w/videos
SeAL_Morita_Eihirei: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2vxffrDVPmAlKvMu5nDEd6yx3-W68T1a

Suggest some other resources that are useful for anime studies.

thanks OP

I feel like giving up. I don't think I'll ever be able to draw cute anime girls.

>>3531955

>>3531955
Start drawing real girls, anime grils is a subset of real grils

>>3532007
I'm already doing that.

holy FUCK I finally learned something that I'm doing wrong on my anime bitches

i was poking the cheeks out way too much

holy FUCK all my drawings are perfection now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITw9uW9fjvM

greAT VIDEO on drawing HAir

>>3532062
pyw

>>3532062
post those gains, son

The skilled arab that was mistaken for a black guy in last thread turns out to just be a copymachine. https://youtu.be/KUBCCRCPkjA

This is what his art looks like without reference https://youtu.be/jAtNIh14W9Y

On one hand it makes me less envious, but also a bit disappointed .

>>3532168
Turning into a xerox machine is pretty scary.

how to draw anime

learn your fundies and use em to draw anime

>what fundies

anatomy
perspective
construction

done. this thread doesn't need to exist anymore inb4 crab the last threads have been the same shit some anon comes and post his garbage asking for crits gets told to study his fundies or some anon post his "study" but never post any work using what he learned about said study

>>3532223
/end board
Wow, hiro should just delete this board and sticky your comment! Xd

>>3532257
Anime Study Thread resigned!

>>3532257
the only place that seems to not know this is here , thats why the drawthread tell the newfag to fuck off to the eternal /beg/ general because only retards post their garbage in hopes on some kind of enlightenment from someone when you have all the tools out there, sticky and the artbook the rest is practice but no let me post my shitty drawings and get mad when you get told "loomis". but this place in particular attracts this kind of retards, im not saying all posters are like this but the vast majority even after being said multiple times that you need your fundies first

>>3532168
How is their race relevant in any way to these threads?

>>3532288
There are people that think there's a genetic component to drawing anime art because of how the majority of western artists that try to emulate it always have some tell in their art that it's western. Pretty dumb, but it's always nice to look for role models

>>3532223
If only it was actually that easy. Otherwise you'd see western artists actually able to draw anime.

>>3532288
It's just a way to identify them. We were referring to him as "that arab guy we thought was black"
Stop being so offended over every little thing

>>3531852
>Steve Huston: https://youtu.be/2T7cDY7YDsg [Embed]
does anyon have the rest of this in a format that i dont need to pay for it/know were i might find it?

>>3532223
*tips pencil*

Trying to practice drawing heads from imagination. Is this acceptable?

>>3532478
you need to work on that expression, cuz she looks like a corpse. other than that, the far eye needs to be slightly smaller.

>>3532478
also from that angle, the forehead should be smaller, bc perspective. you are whale cum.

>>3532478
Loomis.

what is the current trend for anime face style? pic related is kinda old comparison btw

It's pretty diverse nowadays. Each studio is pretty much doing their own thing now I've noticed.

The kyoani cancer is no more now that they can't adapt keys material anymore.

>>3532478
I think that the hair need more volume

>>3532478
too chiseled
you going for a jojo look?

>>3532504
00, 80, 70, and even 60 when done well can get you a lot of good responses. A lot of people like the older art styles its a great way to stand out.

The 90's one is just too unaesthetic.

If you're really good you can get very viral with the ancient styled one though lol

i tried drawing that girl from my hero.

>>3532733
absolutely shit >>>/ic/beg

trying to improve my hair game.

>>3532866

>>3532867

>>3532868
>>3532867
>>3532866
DAtier/10

>>3532223

>>3532897
so the bird is him?

>>3532866
>>3532867
>>3532868
so this is a timeskip?
i like the last one. 7 and 8 are the best ones

>>3532770
>>3532882
pyw

>>3532910
No, he's the bird.

grow some thicker skin and post your studies m8s

>>3532975
you mean crow right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT0PAiVyNOo

>>3532314
>There are people that think there's a genetic component to drawing anime art because of how the majority of western artists that try to emulate it always have some tell in their art that it's western
>genetic component to drawing anime

holy shit
im fucking

done with this board

>>3532994
kill yourself.

>>3533001
I don't get it.

>>3532669
I don't really have an influence, I don't usually try to draw anime style stuff but I want to get better at it. I'm trying to get the hang of feeling forms on a simplified head and I think that's why it came out with such a chiseled look
>>3532525
>>3532491
>>3532485
>>3532482
thanks for the feedback, senpais

>>3532223
It's not only fundamentals and studying they need, it's aesthetic taste as well. You can tell that a lot of people here have no sense of a direction that they want their style to go in by how they post the most generic anime art to embroil anti-anime posters and in non-anime art appreciation threads. They could easily draw anime by analyzing and studying from their favourite japanese artists but they have this persecution complex and conjecture that fundies-pushers want to insinuate them into drawing ugly western gorilla women or tumblr cartoons. The reason this attitude of 'westerners can't draw anime and there is some clandestine set of anime techniques that only japanese either share in their art communities or are intrinsic in their learning process' exists is because those western artists do not understand anime style because of lack of immersion, and same as everyone in this general. If people here exclusively looked at and memorize the characteristics of genuine japanese GOOD anime style while doing realism at the same time, seeing the discrepancy (most important) between anime and realism, would teach them to draw anime. And people think anime artists who are shit at realism have absolutely no fundamentals when they do have them just not rooted in realism, all others like 3d mental construction, line confidence/dynamicism, some level of anatomy understanding, still apply whether or not consciously.

>>3533024
tl:dr your favorite anime is shit.

>>3532985
You realize they're both birds right?

>>3533024
Who should I look to for reliable good anime style?

>>3533036
Aesthetic good is subjective, you form an idea of it on your own after looking at enough art that you start to realize and filter what looks bad/good, which is intuitive. Technical good is obvious with knowledge of fundamentals but not as important as aesthetics, which can overpower it especially if highly stylized. Popularity can be a measure for what's reliably good, as well as professionalism, you could look at frequently extolled anime industry level illustrators and animators because they know how to stylize to be appealing yet fundamentally sound, but also look at what you currently like, think about what your art lacks from theirs, and look at the artists who are influences on those artists.

How to do anime eyes?
Just copy them from manga? Or is there a more streamlined tutorial?

>>3533036
depends on what anime/manga series you like consuming

>>3532504
I like 70 the most in pic

>>3533141
Take inspiration from your favorite style
preferably something that hasn't been over done to death

>>3532733
Keep drawing dude, no one starts of good
Also practice some hands, I know there a pain in the ass, but the sooner you get better at them, the sooner you can draw full bodies with more confidence

>>3533233
thanks dude. i am going to try drawing hands now. i mostly just wanted to know if i should stick with the eyes mostly. what do you think if you don;t mind.

>>3533237
They seem to be even at first glance, are you using the mirror trick on your drawings?
It helps a lot with checking for anatomy errors, especially when it comes to faces
As for the style of eyes, they look alright, I can even sorta tell what character your going for, but there's a lot more to style than just what type of eyes you go for
>Line art depth
>Use of color
>Posing and expressions

The list could go on, but little stuff like the above can really help give your art more style, and thus stand out from the rest

>>3532932
>so this is a timeskip?
not really, they are one day apart max. I was just trying to figure out how to shade anime hair

>>3532478
nose is too defined. Anime noses are pretty much tiny irregular dots, now.

>>3532223
>>3533024
Do you draw?

>>3532223
I wish there are more intermediate anons in these threads as it's mostly just beginners lurking

>>3532504
>90s is just exagerated Slayers
>70s is not Leiji Matsumoto

>>3532994
That guy is right. So noisy.

>>3533479
I would post here if there were good advices been given instead of "That look off", /alt/ is better.

>>3532868

>>3533612
cute

>>3532733
you need to improve your lines anon

>>3532478
>/ic/ in a nutshell

I feel like giving up

>>3534030
if you consider that pic hard, then do

>>3534034
PYW

what can I do to make my animu boys actually look cute

>>3534173
>Draw a cute girl
>Call it a boy
It's that simple.

>>3534173
give them cute features!?

>>3534173
less thick eyebrows and differently shaped eyelashes

less predator-y irises/pupils. more anime eye-shine circles

>>3534173


continued from this post >>3534186

this is not supposed to be an 'improvement', because im a very new artist. but these are changes that i think are "soft" and give the presentation of "cuteness"

I can almost draw a straight line and a circle that doesn't look like shit, soon i'll reach the ultimate goal of drawing cute girls

>>3534266
nice blog keep me posted

>>3534266
Keep it up.

>>3534269
Took the wrong door on your way to /v/?

>>3531955
nice blog keep me posted
>>3532062
nice blog keep me posted

>>3534276
What are you so triggered about? Just close the thread.

>>3534183
This is what most artists seem to do

>>3534185
>>3534186
but what if I want to keep the features (mainly because its part of the character)?
I just feel like the problem is that I draw bad

>>3534295
you don't need to change every feature of a character to make it cute

>>3534295
please look at this image and your original image and study very closely how you drew the eyelashes vs how this artist drew eyelashes

hint: your character's eyelashes curve downwards such that they show him to be very angry and stern thus not as cute. for something to be cute it needs to be "non-threatening". part of what makes anime characters non-threatening is even if they have a stern expression, usually there's some hint or indication theyre insecure and only pretending to be tough, intimidating, etc

How are your 1000 pages going? I just bought some copy paper so I don't have to keep using the nice art diary for lines and other practice. Hopefully I can keep up with the 3-4/day quota.

>>3534432
subscribed

>>3534295
I really hope someone will share Fishine's patreon rewards

>>3534432
I have no idea how many pages are left.

Are there comprehensive tutorials for anime hair and eyes? or would I do better just copying references and trying to get a feel for them?

>>3534173
>>3534295
>I just feel like the problem is that I draw bad
Your oc is already cute. You just need to work more on your anatomy and facial construction.

Lately, I have been studying illustrations such as these, with highly-detailed environments and futuristic city-scapes.
I haven't attempted anything yet, but studying this one, I am trying to decide what makes these pieces so successful.
For me, I think it's just the bright colors and high level of detail, combined with the comfiness of the rooms they characters are usually in.
I guess I wouldn't really know where to get started with these detailed backgrounds. I suppose I could draw a basic bedroom but raise the ceiling and replace the wall with a glass pane or something. But I'm afraid I don't have the imagination to design a futuristic city-scape in the background, or make the room itself look futuristic.

>>3535469
here's a head construction practice I just did
and I'll add that to the things I'll mainly focus on. I have construction and perspective (and the things you've mentioned) so far.
but overall, I'm still /beg/ so I have a boat load of stuff to do.

also thanks for the redraw, he looks very cute.

>>3535548
Yeah bump for this. Always thought these were beautiful. I always enjoy looking at them. I can't imagine what it takes to design the backgrounds though.

I can't draw breasts on women. There's no references for large breasted women, just men. It's weird how porn and hentai is so vast but there's no references for breasts bigger than a C- cup.

>>3535705
>There's no references for large breasted women, just men.
There are references for large breasted men?

>>3535713

>>3535705
look at porn? literally tons of natural looking big fake tits on Asian porn stars or gravure idols

if you want something bigger than that then as I expect you don't know what a c cup is and youre being unrealistic

>>3535717
I'm not good with references that are 3D and I'm looking breasts of this size and bigger. I'm sorta weird and can't find good reference images.

>>3535761
try honeyselect with mods. they get pretty big.

>>3535761
look at kyle's shit?
I don't remember the name of his current blog because im flatbrained but im sure its posted somewhere around here

>>3535771
Every time westerners try to draw anime, they have this thick blurry line art and tumblr noses. What's the deal?

>>3535774
i was under the impression that tumblr nose was a very red nose / noses drawn by sjw pleb artists that make a character ugly.

what you are referring to is a 3d drawn nose and this is because western artists are taught to think in 3d where as the Japanese use 2d shapes..

>>3535774
not every stylized art style is anime you brainlet

>>3535784
You're right, it's not anime, but he is definitely attempting the anime style here.

>>3535784
Of course not but this is still some weird pseudo anime style.

>>3535788
>>3535793

big eyes and upturned nose doesn't mean anime
you guys need to extract your head from your ass
next youll say disney has a pseudo anime style because they use the same beauty conventions and exagerrate them

>>3535802
Sure, whatever.

>>3535802
Yeah dude, no. It's definitely trying (and failing) to imitate anime/manga style.

>>3535807
cant imagine being this salty bc jealousy. of kyle of all people

>>3535811
Why would I be jealous of someone who can't draw anime?

>>3535813
Because you can't either

>>3535802
ladies and gents i give you one of the origins of anime.

>>3535824
that's the joke

>>3535818
So I'm jealous of someone who can't do something I can't do either? Warped logic, but okay. Anyways, I'm not angry or whatever at Kyle if that's his name, I'm just pointing out that it is not how you draw anime/manga style correctly. It's an obvious attempt to blend that style with western Disney-esque cartoon caricatures.

>>3535830
>someone draws in a style that requires more form knowledge than drawing anime would
>h-he's trying to draw anime and failing! hahah! fuckking idiot cant even draw anime

>>3535834
lol. you're pathetic

>>3535834
>>h-he's trying to draw anime and failing! hahah! fuckking idiot cant even draw anime

Nobody was acting like this. Stop being such a gay white knight for some random guy's art.

>>3535830
The logic is that as bad as you think he is, you're worse and are jealous that he is popular

>>3535824
Is this supposed to be erotic?

>>3535864
No, I'm not jealous at all. I like Kyle, but I'm not crazy enough to call that an accurate attempt at anime/manga style, even thought that is clearly what it is trying to be. Why are you getting so angry? Are you Kyle? Don't take it personally, this is an artwork CRITIQUE board. I don't mean anything mean by it.

>>3535868
youre retarded if you think hes attempting anime because he draws big eyes. now go draw so you can stop being jealous of people better than you

>>3535871
>critiquing on an artwork CRITIQUE board
>"y-you're just jealous!"
Fucking pathetic hahaha

>>3535876
saying someone is attempting anime when theyre obviously not isn't critique, brainlet

>>3535879
Um, it's pretty clear that he is attempting it.

lol buncha moeblob plebs

anyone know what rendering materials urushihara works with?

>Wanted to draw big tiddy anime girls so I could end the terror of NTR in hentai.
>Can't draw tiddies worth a damn. Slowly facing the reality that the NTR fags have this insane ability to draw great works of art because they sold their soul.

can someone tell me how to draw back and top the head exactly? I feel like i cannot proceed because how similar all my drawings are...

can someone tell me how to draw back and top the head exactly? I feel like i cannot proceed because how similar all my drawings are...

>>3536583
loomis you disguisting piece of shit

>>3536694
go back to /beg/

>>3536583
i know you're that one faggot from drawparty, the misshapen body and cut off legs and feet give it away. end yourself

>>3536583
Cute!

>>3536722
stop stalking me retard, go kys.
>>3536728
thank you

>>3536583
teach me how to color rush

>anime
>study
NGMI

>>3535930
YGMI

>>3536583
I think it's cute

>>3535930
>JoJofag
>muh moe
Opinion discarded

How do japs get away with drawing 3/4ths head position for almost everything? What am I not seeing that changes. Is it the eyes?

>>3535930
people draw what they like to look at. if you like to look at masculine men it just means you're gay or an ovulating woman. which is fine but some of us aren't either of those.

It is sad though to see the majority of animu users in this board are grown men who are into moe blobs

>>3536963
>Its sad people draw what they enjoy
Imagine being such a birth control addled roastie with a toxic womb that you become this butthurt over cute anime characters getting more attention than you

>>3536994
Sorry to hurt your feewings frend

>>3536994
What would your mother say if she saw you write this?

>>3537005
>anon i made you your favorite roast beef

>>3537005
>ngmi

>>3537005
I routinely disparage women on birth control in private conversation. Everyone who knows me knows I only regard women who are mothers or who want to be mothers and are tender and caring towards small children.

>>3536963

>>3537021
You have a mental deficiency if you think only whores who don’t want to be pregnant take birth control. Maybe go outside?

>>3537029
Begone thot.

>>3537029
Only whores or useless women don't want to become pregnant. They're either sluts or not worth anyone's time.

>>3537032
>t. never had sex

>>3537031
>>3537032
based

>>3537033
Wow, you spread your legs for a whoremonger and don't even have a child to show for it. You hedonistically pursue genital stimulation over anything else in this world. How learned and sophisticated you are that you debase yourself.

Pre-marital sex is morally reprehensible and degenerates western civilization.

So I draw cute anime people because fiction is the only place you can find innocence in this hellish modern world. Now fuck off.

>>3537038
nigga would you shut the fuck up lmao

>redditcords drama
>thread goes to shit

why im not surprised

>>3537408
>Responding to a post you don't like from 5 hours ago


Yup, there's a retard.

>>3537029
youd have to be mental to willingly be on birthcontrol, it fucks up your body and mind and you pay to do it too. theres no reason at all unless youve got some rare condition.
>>3536858
this. sure some artists you can learn from but you guys are getting your inspiration from cheap mass produced anime series. first study the fundamentals/ real anatomy and porportions, then youll be able to see and make good stylistic choices.

>>3532897
>remplaced the text with screencap of anons' posts in /ic/
Ok this is actually epic
10/10

>>3537525
incredibly painful and debilitating periods or depression caused by monthly hormonal shifts are not rare conditions nigga talk to a female

>>3537525
The fundamentals don't teach stylization. Nobody is saying you don't need them but if you want to draw anime you need to look at anime.

>>3535930
dio is moe though

>>3537021
based

>>3536994
>>3537021
>>3537032
>>3537038
absolute state

>>3537559
get this natalist shit outta here

>>3537535
the pains last like 3 hours at most and for only one day of the month, and it varies, sometimes theres barely any pain at all. everyone gets a bit more moody in periods regardless of gender.
i talk with my fiance every day.
>>3537541
i didnt say it did, i said itll help make better stylization, regardless of the style youre going for. too many people are using these mass produced low quality anime shows as their only references, with little to no prior understanding of the human body or older styles of anime. ive seen it too many times and it also shows in this thread

>>3537559
Wow. Way to be a bigot. I don't see a single Asian in your inclusive picture.

>>3537666
:)

>still replying
Report and ignore.

>>3537408
>nigger

Children please, we're all friends here

>>3532504
spit my drink

>>3535469
I think it's safe to say you've graduated from /asg/ if you actually drew that pic on the right.

>>3536963
Actually
[spoiler/I'm into kemono[/spoiler]

>>3537686
>asian
>ginger

>>3537622
>the pains last like 3 hours at most and for only one day of the month, and it varies

Holy shit are you stupid. Way to shit up a thread.

>>3537826
good taste
>>3537822
I like to lurk from time to time and help redline someone's work
>>3535690
keep grinding anon, you'll eventually gmi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H2fmkY0TIE

How do these faggot japs always start a drawing with one eye.

>>3537878
That's pretty sweet. Can you do Goku and Piccolo together?

What makes "GAINAX style" instantly recognizable?

>>3535469
How do you make your posing feel so natural and pleasing, purin?

>>3537924
Probably the colors.

>>3537924
dynamic exaggerated poses

>>3537919
can't right now, I sketched pic related a while back though

>>3538011
fuckin neato

>>3537925
I usually pose and try to see which pose feels natural and not stiff. If I'm too lazy, I just try to eyeball it with a few trial and errors until it looks right.
I think changing the camera angle also helps instead of doing it with a front facing angle. Try to imagine the thing you're drawing and rotate it in your mind until you find some interesting/appealing angles to draw. I might just be talking out of my ass but I'm think there are some books about composition that may tell you more about this.

>>3537924
nothing, if you look at the shows they mostly feel completely different and develop/adapt to the source material

Does anyone else think NihongoGamer isn't really improving? I feel like the guy is literally set up for success, but his work doesn't show it. He is surrounded by talented artists, lives in Japan (can speak and read Japanese), and seems to actually draw often. I want to see him actually make it. What happened to that manga he was supposed to put out?

>>3538107
He makes 4 Let's Play videos a week, I don't think he draws as much as you think he does

>>3538107
He doesn't draw with the goal to become a god in mind, he just draw for fun and giggles. Nothing wrong with that.

>>3538107
He's a literal hobbyist

>>3538407
>literal

>>3538107
Pretty sure he plays more video games than he actually draws. It's clear he's just a hobbyist.

>>3537878

>>3538107
Who cares? All NG needs to do is keep getting real artists on his channel and let them show their skills aND share tips. NG is a fine host, and the last thing we need on DokiDoki Drawing is NG thinking people are subbing to see his art, and not his guests.

>>3538552
Good art but Super sucks ass and you should have mixed for making this.

>>3538737
>you should have mixed for making this
not sure what you mean by this, glad you like the art though

>>3539205

>>3539205
learn to be more confident with your line strokes

>>3539205
If you're just sketching do this but once you have the general idea of what you're going for, do it and be confident

What should work on? Ive been learning how to draw female chests/breasts for the last 3 days.

>>3539352
Maybe everything else.

>>3539354
I forgot the image.

>>3539352
learn from anatomy books or the oppai resource in the artbook thread

>>3539355
look bad todd

>>3539358
What Oppai resource? I can't find it.
>>3539359
Bad Todd the artist? Or it's bad?
Thanks for helping me out anons.

>>3538107
Because he's got no talent. You think /ic/ was joking? You need it to succeed.

>>3539358
>>3539359
Please respond >>3539364

>>3539379
https://mega.nz/#F!XRF0iY7Z!VZREnIDndi-z0zphl9dCvg
check out the hgal,oppai folder

Anything from japs about drawing anime hair?

>>3538107

WIP almost finished... I think

>>3540617
Good job m8

I sincerely beg you guys to stop doing these eyes that are tilted and winged in this pretty much impossible way, unless deformed.
even with the head tilted forward they dont go like that. i get you might want to make an evil, smug or tsun looking character but you dont need to go full retard. "muh style" no it looks bad.

>>3541089
why so anal with eye placement? Unless the artist is aiming for a semi realistic style like GITS, then the artist is allowed to stylize whatever he wants, dummy

>>3541099
because a more than half open eye would not even be close to looking like that, it just goes against all logic. anime is based on humans, if you saw someone draw an out of porportion arm on a normal anime girl youd say it looks bad, or a hairline placement thats off etc. it has nothing to do with semi realistic style.
the images youve posted are mostly fine (except for a few) and not what i was complaining about, their upper eyelids are more closed + some of their heads are more tilted.

Read OP as /EAST/ - East Asian Study Thread

>>3541126
they're supposed to be stylized and exaggerated, not an accurate depiction of a human being. If the artist can pull it of with that kind of eyes and make it look appealing then why not.

>>3541154
yes theyre exaggerated but there comes a point where it goes too far. If you make a dynamic pose and push it too far to the point the joints get broken its not ok. the eyes in my example defies logic, its like someone taped up their eyelid, revealing a lot more of the white of the eye or as if they rotated the whole eye on the face inward.
When they close their eyes itll look weird, the point where the upper eyelid and lower eyelid meet can not be that unbalanced unless youre trying to make some caricature of silly cartoon drawing of an asian. which is fine, but we're talking about anime here. Had it been for a chibi expression or something i wouldnt have a problem with it but people use this as their style and ive seen more and more people adapt it without making an informed decision.

>>3540617
interesting use of scanlines

supplement for screentones?

How the hell do you draw like this? I can't even draw a line art in this quality and I don't know why

>>3531850
Why is SAO the OP image?

>>3541694
clip studio paint - design pencil brush
at least that's what it looks like

plus it has an ugly ass duplicate layer blurred and set to like multiply or soft light or some shit

I guess this is the only thread where i could say this.

I'm so used to drawing in a 'traditional' sense that when i'm at a complete loss when i try to attempt something that is remotely stylized like the subject matter of this thread.

It's kind of frustrating.

>>3541703
Well I'm sure you did studies, or drew from life right? It's okay to do studies of other people's art to understand how it is stylized. No one has to see it but you.

>>3539216
>Theres now a summer jeanne
>she sucks ass
Extra, Extella, CCC, and Lost Belt was a mistake

>>3541707
Yeah you have a point. Maybe I have to give it another go and look at it in a different way.

>>3541703
Look at some stylized art that you like and try to copy it.

>>3541716
They should just keep making prisma and nothing else. Nero is fine though.

>>3541181
>the eyes in my example defies logic
Dude the eyes on almost EVERY anime pic defies logic, 99% of the time because of the size.
I get it you don't like it, but that style of eyes is VERY used, it has nothing to do with it being illogical.
Would you go to any anime artist drawing a girl to tell them that her eyes are too big?

>>3541988
its a diffrent logic rather than that theyre "too big". they still function like a normal eye. you dont reinvent how a leg bends and call it your style. the big eyes are part of the anime style as a whole. just like how when super heroes are drawn, the muscles of the men are sometimes unrealistically massive but they still follow the logic of muscles and anatomy so it looks good.

>>3542238
honestly you're just too worked up over a pair of stylized anime eyes

>>3542238
You're fucking retarded. Shut the fuck up.

>>3542238
But that anon posted eyes from artists that draw eyes exactly how you don't like them. Not to mention there are a lot of pros that draw eyes like that too. You seem to be the one that is trying to set rules, when it is literally just your preferred style.

>>3541135
seconding this

>>3542276
youre projecting, maybe you feel targeted but that was not my intention, im simply explaining what i mean.
>>3542303
if you actually read my reply youd see most of them, like i said, are not the same. there are rules to follow if you want to draw human anime characters, i didnt set them.

>>3542573
>youre projecting
not really fa m. I don't know what's up with your autistic obsession with anime eyes and why they don't match up with realistic ones.

Have you actually seen girls irl? Because if not, let me tell you most of them apply eyeliner with their makeup and with asians, winged styles are pretty normal like pic related. Now imagine this kind of eyes but exaggerated then you have those type of stylized eyes.

>>3535548
I'm a professional environment artist (3d). I can tell you a large majority of illustrators doing complex backgrounds nowadays use 3d bases, both to iterate easily (shuffling elements around takes 5 minutes) and to get absolutely rock solid perspective.

There's basically two secrets to creating good looking environments of any type. The first is research and reference. You're gonna need a lot of reference. For a large, futuristic interior, look at photos of airport terminals, or public spaces in modern buildings (art galleries, shopping malls, tower lobbies, etc.) They will give you some ideas for the lay-in, then you can put your personal twist by changing the design or give it whatever theme and purpose you want.

The other secret is design. Things like the 70-30 rule, basically knowing what makes things aesthetic, so that when you have to invent elements for your environment they don't look absolutely fucked.

>>3542596
how long does it take to do something like >>3535548?

>>3538027
I can confirm that camera tilt (rotation) is such an easy and bullshit way to make something look good. It can make things look instantly more dynamic and complex without requiring any change in perspective, simply by breaking your vertical lines off the grid.

>>3542592
my point still stands, where the lids connect and the shape of the eye in my example is simply wrong, regardless of makeup. its wrong and looks bad.
I think you watch too many idols or something, most women or girls dont walk around with that obnoxious eyeliner, and even if the anime character wore eyeliner it wouldnt reshape the already wrong shaped eye

>>3542630
The whole point of anime is breaking realistic, physical rules to stylize in a way that's aesthetically pleasing. I seriously hope you're trolling.
No one irl has necks one third the width of their heads, but I don't see you complain about that, do I?

>>3542630
oof you're a lost cost anon. I aint even mad.
I may even think you're racist and have an unconscious dislike of women with extreme monolids. Here's your last (you) I'm going to sleep

>>3542639
ive explained this two times already but you obviously dont care to read my arguments
>>3542658
ive already used these kind of eyes as example in my first post, theyre more squinted, as in lower upper lid, and still taper downwards at the end. not sure if youre pretending to be ignorant to see it or if you just wanted to call me racist, which i am but not for a silly reason like the look of someones eyelids

/ast/ is the worst draw thread on /ic/ right now. It just attracts the most insufferable shit posters.

>>3542756
A thread dedicated to solely copying anime is full of retards when the rest of the board agrees that fundies are more important? Color me surprised

>>3542729
>>3542630
Holy fuck you're actually retarded

>>3541089
>no it looks bad.

no it looks good.

check mate!

>>3542787
unironically cute

>>3542787
looks strangely like lupin fanart

>>3541845
>Nero is fine

>>3542787

>>3542787
context? or do you just not like anime

>>3543121
how do you draw hands this tasty? any tips in general for hands

>>3543194
don't avoid drawing them. even if it's just a head shot, add those hands in there. for me, knowing where the knuckles are so i can connect the fingers helps a lot.

this one could have looked better if i'd used a reference though. i was impatient so it's wonky looking

>>3543204
thank you for your advice, I appreciate your help! I don't know if this is good criticism or not but I think the head placement is wonky, or the it's neck area? anyways, you can make it!!!!

>>3543194
>hands this tasty
>a wonky mess of random curves and bulbous masses that disregard most notions of form and anatomy
Damn anon, you have low taste

>>3532073
Cool an English sub of a Japanese artist
>"hola todos"
>"onions rina"
X

>>3543228
welcome to ic

>>3543228
What do you recommend that I should study?

>>3535824
i need to watch all the disney stuff again. i havent seen them since the 90s when I was being babysat. Like that's absolutely just a pinup girl bent over. I'm not surprised or grossed out by it but damn, something I need to do with an adult artistic eye.

>>3543233
Anything that works for you and helps further your understanding of hands. Hampton, Proko, Loomis, they're all good.

I would say your main weakness atm is not thinking with 3d volumes (as evidenced by the nonsensical construction of your hand and its weird lines that don't reflect the basic building blocks), and not being careful about positioning your volumes/using landmarks, as evidenced by your neck being off-center.

>>3543244
that wasnt me you replied to but yeah- im working on landmarks for the neck right now

>>3543233
Bridgman Constructive Anatomy, Guide to Life Drawing, Book of 100 Hands take your pick. I recall Huston's figure drawing method book worked good too. Remember it's a pentagon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raCBPneAArc#t=8s

>>3541696
That's Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia.

>>3543263
bridgman is a dry motherfucker who is as tedious to go through as a play from shakespeare

>>3541694
whats the name of this artist im digging his stuff.

>>3543313
I'm sorry, I don't know. I got the pic from a request fill on /a/ draw thread

So I'm looking for anime artists that have youtube channels where you can see their process in detail, like from sketching to finished piece. It helps me a lot in learning. I know Doxy is in the OP, who I like, but I was looking for some more. Preferably Japanese, but I'll take Western artists that are good.

>>3543121
>>3543244
cleaned her up

>>3543263
i prefer hampton for now. maybe ill try bridgman again when i'm skilled enough to handle his stuff

>>3543343
It's anime, you don't need so many lines or shadings on the hand. Just like you don't put them on faces to make them look 100 years old and manly, stop using so many on the hands and everywhere else.

Hampton doesn't cover hands well. Look at your own hands and drawings of hands and just draw.

>>3543338
Best you'll get is process pics from pixiv/twitter and then speedpaints from youtube where you'll learn some tricks. There's no shortcut and watching someone stream for 2 hours will probably leave you more confused at how they end up with a finished piece from the garbage they start with. It's a lot of transform.

>>3543355
>It's anime, you don't need so many lines or shadings
you say this because you've seen beginners mess it up a lot. but done right, these things can elevate a piece.
pic related, artist is pigeon666. they're my end-goal. do you see how- at first glance- it appears simple. but there's a lot of subtle detailing in there. it's something that gets better the longer you look at it.

if i wanted to keep noodling on my sketch, i'd maybe trim some fat off her hand and add in more subtle shading. but i've decided i've spent enough time on it, so im moving onto the next sketch.

>>3543375
>you say this because you've seen beginners mess it up a lot. but done right, these things can elevate a piece.
They really don't when they're on the skin unless you're going for someone 80 years old. There are hardly any unnecessary lines on the hand in that picture except the ring finger knuckle. The pointer finger doesn't make any sense because it's only got two segments (ring finger also not looking great in terms of being 3 segments but I guess is doable even though the last two segments are like a noodle) and the pinky finger has an entirely invented 4th segment. I don't think pigeon's work is that great but whatever you like.

You're still on the sketching/clean up and it can be early to judge but the way you've placed some tone and lines gives the impression of someone still quite unsure of the planes and shadows they're mapping.

>>3543397
this is all nitpicking, agreeing with what i said (in terms of subtle shading), and pointing out that my hand isn't very good (which it isnt).

who's work DO you like? i'm curious to know your taste now. i assume you're more into moeshit, which is fine. but it's almost the opposite of what I want to acheive

>>3543355
>too many lines
the absolute STATE

>>3543397
>>3543355
>it's another retard

>>3536921
Digibro get the fuck out of here.

What are some artists that have similar looking styles to Sonoda, Shirow, Urushihara or Yoshiyuki Sadamoto?

>>3531850
should i study classic disney animation and such before drawing anime? i assume there’s basics to cartooning that the jp pros must be aware of.

>>3544341
Nobody has given a shit about disney's animation for decades.

>>3531955
It's not rocket science anon, if you keep practicing and studying you will make it
I'm not good but drawing anime feels easier and looks better for me than drawing realistic now, and i only started drawing anime on and off a few months back

>>3544000
honda takeshi and hiramatsu tadashi

>>3544341
You don't have to draw in that style per se, but you can still at least learn a couple of things from the teachings of Disney's top animators, like Stanchfield, Richard Williams, etc.

>>3537826
Ah, a fellow patrician

>>3543338
Not sure if this will help but there is a certain channel called FrikiDesu or something like that and they have a few vids of mangakas doing the whole process for one of their characters I believe, not sure how useful it is
Let me go check a minute

>>3543343
That"s so cute anon good job. My only critique would be the ear is too small

Any advice or guides for drawing anime heads/heads?

>>3547075
*Heads/faces

TELL ME HOW TO DRAW ANIME EYELASHES IN PAINT TOOL SAI RIGHT NOW REEEEE

>>3547238
Post examples of what you want to achieve and your own attempts

>>3547247
I dont want to post my own attempts because my attempts are really really bad.
I mean a "generic" style, like pic related

I guess Im supposed to use the pencil tool and be careful about how I apply pressure but I never get it to look anywhere like this so i just messily scribble with the brush tool until i get, roughly, the right shapes

>>3547295
Draw the outline then fill it in or something. Check out pixiv's live streams and see if you can catch someone doing it.

>>3542573
This picture makes me uncomfortable.

>>3548746
fuck you
I wouldn't have seen that shit if it wasn't for you
holy shit