/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stanislav Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

>>3527910
Anpan

Im very new at this

what book should I be reading to learn how to put the human figure into a 3d space from imagination, cause right now im only finding books on the basics

Some skulls I drew as an assignment/practice for the Watts Atelier online program.

I've been stuck for more than 3 days, It's like I forgot everything about everything
I wanted to make this for some time, but now I look at this and my brain feels like it's done, but it's not. Like a brick wall, and I don't know how to keep going.
Can you guys give me small points to work on? Maybe I'm just overwhelmed by the big picture and I need to fragment into smaller pieces. I feel so dumb right now. Comment and Critics.

>>3527966
You're very cute at this

>>3526243
I continued this from yesterday here was the next part.

>>3528155
And the finished version. Ignore the circles around the hands they were a mistake. Any tips?

>>3528070
>>3528156
Looking good, gents. Keep at it!

im stuck on the hair /ic/
send help

>>3528273
sorry forgot about the 1000 pixels rule
here's a fixed version

Some anons say this is better than Loomis, but is it available in English?

>>3528300
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
Dumbo, forgot link.

>Want to draw a pose with a nice sense of depth/perspective
>First iteration sucks
>tweak it a little, a bit better
>tweak it again, a bit better
>repeat for 3 hours
>end up with something at a flat angle
Every. Fucking. Time.

>>3528070
Nice work
How’s that program? Looking into tutorials and online drawing courses

>>3528084
please help

I don't know.

>>3527910
should I keep working on the one on the left? Do another layer of reds? Or just wabi sabi as is?

>>3528084
have you considered painting a meme about it?

>>3528347
Nice studies, keep up the good work

Yo - anyone here taking nsfw comissions? If so; im personally trying to find my way into it but im tryna protect myself legally. Is it uncommon to ask for buyers govt ID when taking comissions? How do you verify your clients age? Maybe im just being paranoid but you know. I aint tryna risk the shit.

>>3528321
I've instituted a "no turd polishing" policy. If I see something that is fundamentally flawed in a drawing I recognize it and try again. I feel like it's been better for me so far

>>3528366
lol dork

Lol thats fair.

>>3527994
I think you already know the answer tho, what would you say to someone who asked how to draw cars from any angle straight from their imagination?All you need to understand is that the human body is mad of shapes that are proportioned and learn how to foreshorten those shapes, and add value and details while staying accurately foreshortened. Basically you have to learn the fundamentals like human anatomy before you can just make any pose you want... you can also invest in a body-kun or more superior art model that can actually move with some flexability. (don't tell my body-kun i said that) but i woudn't rely heavily on it, real life reference is better. I hope an iphone picture is a small file.

>>3528366
I don't take any commissions, but i know that it depends where you live at least somewhat. For most sites you pay money through, you have to be of age, i might be wrong about that, but usually you have to have credit. If a kid pays through their moms credit card to get your nsfw art, the mom might try to hold you responsible so you should definitely research your country's laws on independent sales and pornography distribution.

I made this I guess

>>3528387
did you not draw anything else between 4 months ago and now

>>3528084
I'm a little confused about the pose being struck by the arc-angle type dude, his face says proud and "submit or face my wrath, peasant," but his body is giving off an insecure, gotta pee wheres the bathroom, vibe. The juxtaposition is humorous, but im thinking its not what you're going for.
anyways, what you are making is a digital painting, don't forget that. Outlines represent shadow, but in a painting, priority should be to maintain the shapes without dark black outlines (unless its a comic). that, my friend, is your next step. go watch a speed paint on YouTube to see what i mean, get rid of your help lines, maintain the nice detailed values you have in the background throughout the rest, the foreground seems out of place in comparison.
oh and, please tell me that winged guy is massive sized, because the size of your warrior's torso tells me he's either a giant in the sky or behind the warrior, not in front. You can make that clear by either resizing him if hes normal sized, or applying depth of field if hes far away and huge.

>>3528387
Extremely stylized and difficult to critique, not in a good way. would be very cool if it were in a game, but you should look at some really high level pixel-work, there can be much more detail and realism applied, even in pixel art. for example that fire is almost too cartoonist. look at some black and white pixel art to see that you can be detailed with limited colors. Interested to see where you go from here tho, i love the idea.

>>3528391
No

>>3527994
Follow up

>>3528156
The pose looks a bit stiff. You could try to add some gesture next time. The musculature also looks pieced together and lacks natural flow.

>>3527910
im in the middle of this.
Please be honest

>>3528409
cheeks and mouthlines and stuff

Drawing for 2 months, is it an okay drawing for a 2 month beg?

>>3528409
Did you read the tips at the top of this thread?? please do. you struggle with drawing symbols for what you think a human looks likes rather than actually learning anatomy, or thats what i get from this peice. That's great tho, you have a long way to go but dont give up, just know that the art you feel most comfortable drawing wont look very good until you actually practice the technical aspect.

>>3528415
It's beautiful, i just want to stare at it all day.

>>3528415
wrist is a bit fucky but hands look dope

>>3528415
Looks good. May I ask what your work process is?

>>3528415
you can push the mid tones more and *italian chef kiss hand gesture* itll be a bongiorno pizza pie.

How the fuck do you make a straight line without any friction
and no Im not gonna use a fucking stabilizer

>>3528433
I read books and mainly do 1 drawing once a day or once every 2 days,I like he style of the old masters so I try to emulate that, its very appealing to me.I try to watch every video on them , so,overall, I mostly look for information and dont draw that much ...all that while contemplating suicide and collapsing under my failures

>>3528439
I write with a j-hook style or whatever so that if I want to draw straight lines you use your wrist in a rotational striking motion and extend your fingers away in time with the wrist so that it goes no homo as fuck

>>3528444
Well, gitting gud is suffering I guess...

>>3528444
That went from informative to relatable uncomfortably fast.

Are there such things as educational streamers that like to verbalize their thought process as they draw, paint, etc.?

>>3528415
What reference do you use? Do you draw often from imagination? If so,post it, I want to see.

>>3528394
Which pose do you suggest for the Tengu dude?
I'm planning on getting rid of the lines, It's just for showing.
Yes, It's giant. What do you mean by depth of field? Air Perspective or making it more obvious about the low-angle?

>>3528481
I used a bargue plate, i dont have the exact one, cause it was from a book, but they all look like pic rel. I dont draw from imagination, i am too much of a beg for that, first i ll try to be better at drawing feom reference and then, maybe, i ll try to draw a proko kangaroo

>>3528439
Use your shoulder and arm.
They have a higher range of motion than your wrist does, and are accurate even at short motions and on smaller surfaces like a regular sized sheet of copy paper.

Fill sheets of copy paper with circles, shapes, lines and what have you to loosen up and exercise your drawing muscles, and dedicate some time to purely practice your draftsmanship.

>>3528481
Actually I did this a few weeks ago from imagination, i guess. But it was an atempt at perspective, so i dont think it counts

>>3528273
>>3528278
I saw you on Istebrak's critique hour. She gave you some feedback and you didnt change literally anything

>>3528548
oof

I do Origami with the used papers

>>3528548
what's isterbrak's critique hour?

>>3528444
fuck, looks great, kinda my type of process, but yours looks far better, please post more

>>3528553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7RtudqRzNo

>>3528556
I only have a few drawings, but most are about trying stuff, so this is pretty much the only one that looks okay

>>3528565
Nice of you to be in the right direction, just practice a bit more
I lost all my progress in traditional drawing into digital art
And It's pretty mediocre

>>3527966
The face is passable, but why draw arms if you're just going to half arse them?

>>3528415
Decent shading and anatomy, although that bluge ontop of the wrist looks strange
now try drawing a full body and I might be impressed

>>3528566
I did this 1 week after i started drawing, so there s almost a 2 month diff between this and the hand, then i started reading drawing with the right side of the brain wich i think made me worse. Ugh sorry to hear that, but atleast its a lot easier to get exposure in that medium, also cheaper overall i think. I tried it too but i did not have a display tablet and it messed with my brain so I gave up, also, i love the sound of charcoal scraping the paper

>>3528569
I ll try to finish all the bargue plates, the later ones are full blown statues, i am excited but also scared af

>>3528569
Oh and that weird bulge was in the reference, idk what the hell it is, i tried to put my arm in the same position, and there s a muscle there that kinda resemble that weird bulge, it looks like a broken hand desu

>>3528572
I never understood the concept of drawing with charcoal, too big for my hand

>>3528572
>drawing with the right side of the brain
Does reading that later on rather than at the beginning affect experienced artists or what

Doing some perspective practice, cause everything I do from Imagination ends up looking warped af.

>>3528621
not that anon, but I had the same problem with "drawing on the right side of the brain" it's for complete beginners who have never drawn and don't think they could draw.
Once you become somewhat decent at observational drawing it becomes basically useless/ awkward or uncomfortable.

just downloaded a pdf of how to draw and it's way too technical, where do I start

Should you separate the darker or the lighter values first?

>>3528572
I recently stopped using my intuos and went back to traditional art. Not that it's this way for everyone, but I realized that digital was allowing me to produce pieces above my skill level and wasn't making me a better artist. I did like how easy it was to experiment with colors but I'm bad with values so sticking with just graphite is better for me for now.
Shamefully your arm looks much nicer than my drawings and I've been at it for a lot longer.
>>3528556
We gotta step up our game, senpai. It's time to give these noobs a run for their money!

>>3528557
Man, she's kind of annoying

>>3528569
autism

>>3528624
>>3528621
>reading things written by a woman
It's shit. If you're a beginner do Keys to Drawing, otherwise do Loomis.

>>3528670
Scott Roberston? Don't.

Been practicing hands for a few days. What’s my level?

>>3528702
but shes better than anyone you will find on /ic/

Some recent gestures, 30 second ones. Like anon suggested last thread, I aimed for better control or at least had that in mind

>>3528863
2 minute ones. I know I'll get better at these as I know more about the body, but I hope to be on the right track till then.

>>3528278
>>3528273
>sharingan eyes
why lol

>>3528792
>fedora tipping intensifies

>>3528860
Not necessarily wrong, but are your knuckles seriously this far out?

>>3528911
Maybe exaggerating but l do have quite pointy knuckles

>>3528106
Thats nice of you to say
>>3528569
>why draw arms if you're just going to half arse them?
I fail at anatomy when I try to draw it, thats why.

How to draw women? thanks

>>3528909
fedora is atheism and HIGH respect for women

M'lady and al lthat

>>3528945
not like that

>>3528953
Like what then?
Any ref I can follow and learn to?

Brainlet here. I learn better by doing practical exercises rather than reading long paragraphs of theory. Can anyone recommend me a book that is most just "do these exercises" rather than endless exposition?

>>3528972
I'm this way too.

Maybe Keys to Drawing? still a lot of reading though, after all it's a book. I think some online courses might be good for you.

>>3528548
i've already largened the nose and fixed the arch on the eyes
i just posted this copy cause i was lazy and didnt want to transfer my current version as a PNG/JPG
it looks pretty close to the end result in Istebraks video but i just want help with the hair
and want to see if anyone has tips for rendering dreadlocks

How do I draw pigeon toed anime characters?

>>3529062
there are thousands...and thousands...of references for this

your first reaction when you think "how do i draw this" should be to look at photos of it.

does anyone have that sort of flowchart graphic of what books to cover in what order? i saw it a few times here

;_;
I am just going to read for the rest of the day

>>3529150
NGMI

I put 2 hours into this drawing. Did the line drawing with my viewfinder and then added the values with HB, B, 2B, 4B and 6B pencils. I can't wrap my head around this. I never looks right no matter what pencils I use. Can I get advices on this ?/ Exercises that would help me with values

what do i do if i want to be good at art but dont enjoy it?

>>3529202
My advice would be that you are not yet good at drawing so spending 2 hours on a single piece is a waste of time. With less agonizing you could have banged that out in 10 minutes and moved onto the next one.

>>3529205
after you get to a point of gud you'll either like it or not mind it so much
the reason I have for doing it for the porn I am going to make

>>3529205

>>3528972
>>3528995

These are two of my favorite artists on Youtube, both of which have tutorial and lesson-type offerings in their uploads.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Sycra
https://www.youtube.com/user/revolutions34

In particular, I found this video pretty helpful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz75UvHs

It's not a lesson per se, more that you take something you want to be able to draw and just fake it until you make it. Find something that doesn't look right, but don't fix it - start over, and do it right this time. It's helped me quite a lot, and is a hell of a lot less frustrating than "I know something is wrong, but I don't know how to fix it".

I seemed to remember one of them was doing paid lesson plans, but I can't find it. I'll keep looking. I know ... Just kidding, I found it, it was just neither of those people.

https://cubebrush.co/mb/products/mmfwyq-tRBD/art-school

Expensive, though. I've thought of putting forward the cash, but, "you dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a fucking education you could've got for a dollar fifty in late charges at the public library".

>>3529167
is there something whore with reading
got like 20 of the things

>>3529226

I should mention, my understanding is that the Art School stuff goes on quite a substantial sale every now and then. I don't have specifics, but it could be something to look in to.

>>3529210
When will I know that I'm ready then ? Ready to do long rendering drawings

>>3529272
When you no longer have to ask.

>>3528877
Lol i was wondering that too.

>>3528959
Have you tried looking for ref? Just search female model back or something on google. But really the best thing you could do is learn the differences between female and male anatomy, then being able to draw one would mean being able to draw the other. Look at skeletons and fat/ muscle distribution.

>>3528972
Stan Prokopenko on YouTube. He also offers paid excersizes, but watching his free videos is great for understanding how to learn as well as what to study. Give him a look

The noise is wrong right?
My eyes can’t see mistakes, for now...
Help this anon to “see”

Question: I have a drawing tablet (Huion H610PRO Painting Drawing Pen Graphics Tablet) but I want to buy a drawing tablet with a screen because I think it will be more natural to draw. I don't use the tablet I have now because it feels unnatural for me to use it. I don't mind buying a new tablet (this one in question: Huion KAMVAS GT-191 Drawing Tablet with HD Screen 8192 Pressure Sensitivity - 19.5 Inch) but the question is should I buy it or should I just stick with the one I have now? Was the feeling of drawing with a tablet unnatural for everyone else and if it was, is there tips and advice to get around that feeling?

>>3528415
You are 2 months and miles better than me at 6. Welp time to accept I'm doing something wrong.

>>3529543
dont feel too bad anon, hes autistically grinding barques but hasnt nailed it at all. it does look good, but the point is to be precise

>>3529549
bruh hes copying plates and people are eating his asshole what has this place come to

>>3529552
the majority of this thread marvels at observational skills. when they get better they'll realize taht it only goes so far in terms of overall knowledge of art

>>3529595
Jesus Christ this thing is hard
I’m really trying to do good.

>>3528497
Do you have a suggestion anon?

>>3528278
You gotta work on the likeness first dude, it doesn't look like X

an issue with my pencils,
I was gifted a tin of derwents and so I'm no longer just using a mechanical pencil. I really like them but I struggle to use the flat sides of them for shading and the like - the wood is really soft and using a regular sharpener does absolutely nothing to give me a side of graphite to use for broader strokes.
do I want a craft knife or something to cut this wood off? my sharpener is making this worse, not better, somehow.

>>3529646
yeah, most people use a knife for that

>>3529656
awesome, thanks. gonna see if I can find the knife I used to use for making model kits. It was probably a dumb question but the person who gifted me the pencils stressed how much they spent on them (theyre generally an asshole but w/e) and I didn't wanna wreck em with my own ignorance.

>>3529672
if you're worried about it there's probably plenty of tutorials of youtube

Are wireless graphics tablets as responsive as wired ones?

>>3529466
>sight size
OH NO NO NO NO

>>3529732
no

wireless is a meme

>>3529735
Forgot to resize anon
I took the pic from an iPad

Take this pic as forgiveness ;v

>>3529735

No No No what?

Do you want to critic it do it
Here is another one
I know I’m not good. I will do better you will see

>>3529595

>>3529824
use visual measuring, not sight size. there is a pdf floating around somewhere that explains why its a plebtrap

one of the first things of this type i have done. is this trash?

mfw when i end my two week training montage early and attempt to challenge the boss unprepared

>>3529466

You did a really good job, especially at the eyes. Good job.

The nose is a touch too wide, and it's too far down imo. The mouth is just a touch too out as well, as the edge of the lips fall closer to the vertical line imo.

Great work either way, keep it up anon.

>>3529894
Not bad for one of your first. I'm assuming you used a reference if you have that kind if anatomy.

>>3529930
i mean first from imagination. no ref

How are my fundies looking?

>>3527910
I've been focusing on making portraits of people, and I regularly attend weekly live drawing sessions. Here's the latest one, what do you guys think?

And also, I know the hair is shit but I will get to learning how to draw hair properly. Also, this portrait was done in 20 minutes

>>3529966
2/3

3/3

I drew this piece in 20 minutes at my weekly live drawing sessions.

>>3529983
I should mention, I know the hair and hand isn't good, but I have been focusing on the other facial features, and will try learning how to do hair properly.

>>3529892
Visual measurement?
I’m using my eye and a pencil to do the copy, also the blocking process. I don’t get it.
I’m using my “eye”

If is the same size is because the initial high is the same size.
Why doing bargue is wrong? Am I doing wrong? Wtf what pdf
I do this with real object for cast drawings I don’t get it.

>>3528501
Considering how your other stuff in this thread looks, this one is pretty horrible. Even more so if you take into account that you only had to draw simple boxes.

>no foreshortening on the chapel's(?) front side
>even after putting in vanishing points and perspective lines, the sides of the window/door recesses don't follow them

When drawing from (2-dimensional) reference, your accuracy is really impressive. Which is clearly a helpful skill. But you should really up your perspective game. How about you draw furniture in your room or houses in a street (I expect lots of right angles, plus you draw from life) for a change?

>>3528399
Looking good!

>>3528278
No offense, but he looks like someone I’d find in the Bannered Mare.

>>3527994
Human figures can be simplified into boxes in space. So that requires perspective and construction. Persepective made easy is a good book. Try draw a box as well. And look up what the sticky recommends for learning perspective.

You also need to work on your lines. You don't have much precision or dexterity with a pen yet it seems. This is just learned through lots of practice. Draw whatever you want, even anime. Try to keep your lines clean and neat, not scratchy. Don't be lazy with them because if you're drawing from imagination, your lines will be your bread and butter. Keep it at a decent pace too, don't slow down your lines. You want to learn how to be efficient. Start drawing plenty from imagination as well.

Aside from that, you also need to learn your figure drawing. You might not want to learn how to add value or render, but you still need to understand anatomy at least so that you won't be stuck drawing boxes. Check out Proko and Michael Hampton.

>>3529988
I think he means that your drawing is the same size as your subject and you make sure (even if you just use a pen as measuring tool) that lengths and angles are reproduced accurately.

https://fineartviews.com/blog/73275/pros-and-mostly-cons-of-sight-size-method
https://www.studydrawing.com/sight-size

I think that this would indeed be a legitimate method to reproduce the bargue plates and even real life reference. And if this is what you want to achieve then there's nothing wrong with it. But it might lead to overreliance on direct reference if you only look at the line and angle you're drawing and lose the feeling for the overall form of the entire subject. You might also not learn how to draw from imagination or to rotate the subject in your mind.

>>3528070
Don't be lazy with your sketches. Quality over quantity. Make each sketch count.

>>3528399
Oh shit, I just noticed a fellow SCP reader! What’s your favorite? I personally enjoy 1730,2998, and 2191 I’m in the middle of reading 2951. Sorry for straying off topic guys! Won’t let it reoccur.

Does this drawing possess gesture?

>>3530039
Yeah man! I think gesture is just the action. I would fix your ankles though, they are blending in a bit with the calves.

>>3530042
Great! I see what you mean about the ankles.

>>3529925
Add some more color to the face, different tones, reds, yellow, greens, etc. It's too monochrome. Eyes are not just pure white. Irises are not just pure blue.

Work on your values too. Face looking flat. Build the structure of the features by defining the different planes through values. Think like you're sculpting out shapes with value rather than painting a flat portrait.

Well, how do I into anime coloring?

>>3529983
Easy way to make your figure look 3d is by thinking about the light source and adding the major shadows in there to define the shape of the head. If you know the light source, then you can figure out where shadows are necessary and you can shorthand them in.

Think less in lines and more in value. Lose the lines for the eyes and the nose or else it looks like symbol drawing. Indicate them with shades of value instead.

>>3530044
Cool! I’m gonna drop my most recent sketch (besides head structure practice). I’m curious to what you think? I know there are quite a few problems with it but I just want to see if there are any more.

>>3530039
The figure shows gesture, but some of the lines (especially on the shirt) do not. It's all about the flow of lines.

>>3530048
I’m not sure what anime coloring means. (Since the mangas I read are mostly B&W) but the colors are looking good so far, although the face does look a bit yellows, unless that is the intention. Are you going to shade it?

>>3530039
Look up Bridgeman.

Gesture is a combo of a bunch of things. Yes, it's capturing the action, but it's also capturing the balance of weight and the rhythm of the body.

The body is like a stack of blocks swaying in certain directions through action.

>>3530050
I think it looks pretty good but the top of the head looks a too big compared to the bottom.

>>3530052
>>3530058
Thanks. Maybe I was focusing too much on the outline then?

>>3530050
You underestimate the size of the back of the head.

>>3530063
Yeah. It doesn't have the weight or flow that gesture should have.

Instead of copying the figure, think about building the figure. Think about the structure and weight of the figures you're drawing. It leads to a better gesture overall.

Don't worry. Gesture is just practice. It's not something you can perfect. Keep at it.

How do I make the form feel more 3d? It feels so flat

Is THIS *whips out URL* a good guide for a beginner?

http://www.thedrawingwebsite.com/

>>3530091
no consistency in the lines you're trying to use to convey shape. theyre just all over the place and convey nothing.
try doing it by creating a 3d shape drawing the back of those shapes where you normally wouldnt be able to see (so wrap those lines you're drawing right the way around the shape). start with simpler shapes, too, like a cylinder - and then change that shape slightly over and over.

Just got my first tablet. goofing off in krita. so far it's the only free program that I kind of like.

>>3528278
I did a piece similar to this

>>3529552
>>3529578
>>3529549
Bruhs I just asked if I did okay, why the fuck are you so angry at me?

>>3530103
While some of this is surely interesting and helpful, it's not really for people who don't know what they are doing. How does it help you to know how the curves go on a leg seen from the front if you don't know why these curves are there. It doesn't tell you anything about the shapes that create those curves and nothing about the anatomy that creates these shapes. If you have a good grasp of perspective and a decent one of anatomy it's a good read on how other artists simplify body shapes but it might mislead an absolute beginner.

>>3530128
they are envious of all the (You)s you got. Nothing more to it. Just ugly people being ugly.

of course theyre in the beg thread kek

>>3530091
Imagine an ant walking along the surface of the blob, draw his path.

>>3530128
don't worry about em bro, just jealous crabs

Fastest way to improve?

>>3530046
fuck i was studying specifically to get better at the 'more colors' part. i guess im just retarded and learn super slow. it seems like human skin can look waaay different depending on how its being lit. but i plan on trying to try different ways of painting skin colors. this is way i ended up with. i think i did an okay job deflattening it

>>3530141
>>3530181
Thanks guys, appreciate you re support

>>3530200
Mind posting your reference?

>>3530274
the only ref i used was this for the hair after everything else was already drawn

Sorry for big file size using phone

Also dont know how to rotate either soz

When will I become good

>>3530297
If you're anything like me, never

>>3530200
I feel like the eye sockets lack depth, like it just goes from the top of her eyeball straight into the forehead in most places

Was told to post here instead.

This is the ref used: >>3527124

>>3530301
oh i see what you mean. i was trying to avoid that but i guess not well enough. would darkening the values beneath the brow next to the nose help?

gesture makes me fucking angry, god damn retarded opaque pretentious shit
less than 30 seconds a sketch and I still feel like I'm wasting time, god fucking dammit

>>3530360
Looks good.

I need to buy a ruler

>>3530363
it's literally
just
fucking
squiggles
>Looks good
eat shit bucket crab, why do you people perpetuate this fucking meme

>>3528084
The samurai's pose is so good **

>>3530377
Call security, he's doing it again!

>>3530377
>just
>fucking
>squiggles

Yes, that's what they are supposed to be. And they convey more movement and flow of lines than most finished drawings on /beg/.

>>3530382
Oh it’s the pseudo haiku faggotright?

>>3529595
You did the first ones better than me bruh, keep it on, you re doing gr8

I have an idea for a comic. Should I start drawing it now even though I suck, or wait until I get better?

>>3530390
I started storyboarding one because I couldn't draw what I wanted well enough. It was mildly satisfying, I guess

>>3530340
I think so, you're definitely on the right track. It's coming along nicely

>>3530390
Most comic are written first. Add some kind of storyboardy sketches to illustrate the written outline.

im trying to draw a thicc monster female but im finding it difficult to find the right references for this body type and it just feels wrong.

>>3529929
Oh I get it
Thank you anon for being so condescending and hel.

I think I won’t have this problem because I’m already practicing form by using “vilppu approach”
What I mean is, my I’m learning both methods, “conceptualized ideal used by animators”(villpu) and academic drawing for portraits and cast drawing.

I didn’t know about the comparative method for drawing, I will take a look.
I will try any method.
My eye accuracy is my weakness now.

>>3530439
I’m using Hampton here,

>>3530066
Huh, I guess I did. Thanks!

For years I have been drawing nice and slow, trying to get my lines where I want them, and I have nothing to show for my effort. So I was wondering, should I just start scribbling fast? Can I do good art with fast scribbling?

>>3530453
How can we know? We are beg here, you are not post a pic to guess.
But it’s weird, because you should have improve your speed naturally if you had years doing something ? And good.

>>3530453
yeah nothing wrong with scribbling fast, just dont chicken scratch

>>3530460
Why it FLIPS HORIZONTALLY!!!!

My first figure sketch ever, just to try the pose and proportions.

>>3530465
rotation data from mobile devices is stored in EXIF data, 4chan removes EXIF data when u upload pics

Been drawing for about 3 months and just started practising perspective all yesterday and today. Anything I could be doing better and any places that need touching up?

hi bois, I can't get through this muddy looking skin. I'm doing:
- drawing the shadows/highlights with an hard brush
- blending with an hard brush with 20% flow
- smoothing even more the transition with a soft brush
where am i doing wrong? I'm not aiming for a realistic looking skin, more like this one: https://i.imgur.com/aoRDsd2.jpg

thanks in advance

>>3530497
Draw bigger, it'll be hard at first but you'll thank me in the end.

Added another foot to my study from last thread, borked the perspective on the bottom foot but I'll try to do better next time.

I'm drawing feet from
https://www.deviantart.com/senshistock/art/50-Foot-Challenge-Pack-93-Foot-References-348837258
And you should too

>>3530497
Overshot that foreshortening? Use bounding boxes for things that have perspective.

>>3530501
values aren't dark enough
are you working in photoshop?
get a good smudge tool
youre too dependent on line to be doing what the artist in your example is doing so instead of painting under the sketch you need to paint over it.

>>3530528
Yes, I'm using Photoshop. I didn't try using a smudge tool, I'll definitely try it.
I didn't think about painting over the sketch, seems a good idea. thanks a lot anon.

How do I learn to "see" better?

>>3530544
and I mean download a smudge tool from a good artist don't just use the default, it has to be tweaked to create nice blending

>>3530508
Like the hand or the body, harsher perspective? Or do you just mean in general.

>>3530519
Which part did I overshoot sorry? And okay, thanks.

>>3530554
The entire left hand is too big and the arm gets too wide, too fast.

i drew a shitty spessship in ms paint with mouse, am i pro yet

>>3528945
>>3529426
how's my effort? did I do any good?

>>3530629

>>3530631
Ok thanks

>>3530632
that's a joke though

Is artistic ability a muscle I just have to flex every day to improve, or does it require some brain power?

>>3530636
ok did I do any good?

>>3530638
it takes all your blood and sweat and then cums on you like if you were a cheap slut
>>3530639
i don't feel confident with my own art to comment on yours

>>3530629
pretty shit at drawing, these are just some notes of one shit artist to another

>>3530645
Thanks

>>3530638
it's 90% brain power
you need to think where you are going to draw constantly

>>3530620
from the thumb it looks like someone floating belly up in water

>>3530667
heh, someone else told meit looks like an astronaut lying on snow

Is there a guide for how Loomis draws heads but for bodies instead?

>>3530719
It's called Figure Drawing

rate my first ever skull, I tried hard bros.
tips pls

>>3530648
also her arm is all kinds of fucks up
don't know if this right advice, but try keeping layers to just one thing, like one layer for anatomy, one layer for gesture then after you have the fundamentals as a foundation, then you can add a shit load of layers for details you want to add

>>3530732
ps
yes i am aware the neck is too thick but i am too tired

>>3530732
6/10

Too much attention to detail, not enough attention to the overall shape.

It shows promise.

Do it 50 more times and only bother shading it once the shape of the skull and neck is right.

90% of the time i have no idea what i'm doing. Please help /ic/ what should i do? I want to make it!

pls no bully

>>3530753
looks really nice. i love her eyes

>>3530754
thanks
it is actually the only thing I have ever practiced to render
do you know any hair rendering tips?

>>3530775
Worst Hero

How do I draw anime eyes? Anyone have a guide?

>>3530797
you just make lines.
Seriously though, there are many tutorials on the internet and i'm pretty sure you can tell which ones are garbage.

>>3530501
Who's the model?

>>3530797
it really depends imo. there are a million different styles that use different eye shapes, different eyelash styles, different irises, different everything. so find a picture/artist you like just copy the style. trace over it 100 times and try to duplicate it on your own.

My portraits never look anything like I want to, they can't resemble the reference

>>3530805
Do I really have to draw those light reflection things in each eye?

>>3530821
completely depends on style but eyes reflect light don't they

>>3530821
No, you consider where the light is reflected and do them based on that. Although many people seem to just add them randomly because muh kawaii

>>3530809
welcome to suffering

my end goal to is draw comics
is writing practice a necessity, or is most of the story told through visuals

>>3530834
Depends, are you trying to convey something deep?

>>3530838
no, something at the level of Double Deck's work would be more then fine

Why do they recommend fun with pencil? This book is the worst and makes you hate Loomis.

>>3530860
I thoroughly enjoyed it when I started out, no idea why it didn't click for you.

would u smash this in the bar bathroom?

>>3530873
I would respectfully asked her to eat a bowl of eggs

>>3530873
considering that's a man in a skirt

yes

>>3530860
just skip loomis and go straight to hitokaku

what are some good painting/rendering exercises?

>>3529966
Do it light, as light as you humanely can. Also do one for a plethora of different angles.

tablet drawing is weird. but its fun.

How do you get back into drawing if you haven't done it in a while? full time work is killing me

>>3530976
I liked a lot of things about it but I just couldn't get the hang of it. I've been thinking about buying an iPad pro though. I want to do digital but I can't deal with the hand eye disconnect

>>3530990
Just force yourself to start with no expectations and it's usually pretty easy to keep going, as long as you can get yourself to put the pencil to the paper

>>3531006
>I can't deal with the hand eye disconnect
neither can I fren. there are screen tablets you can get for a pretty good price! I have a xp-pen 16 pro in the mail. excited!!
I don't rly get the buying an iPad meme, it's terribly small and the price is hardly justified. I guess portability is a plus but for the price, portability alone isn't worth - just pencil and paper if you wanna draw outside.

Drew a hollow knight.
Thoughts?

>>3531019
The reason I'd fall for the iPad meme is because I actually already have an old iPad that I like a lot. If I could draw on it I would be quite happy. I'll look into the one you mentioned, but for now I've actually really been enjoying traditional again :)

new to digital art, how does this look so far?

>>3531006
>I want to do digital but I can't deal with the hand eye disconnect
i had this problem until i realized my tablet giving me a delay because i didnt have it configured properly. now it has imperceptible latency. its like using a mouse.

which Bridgman book should I get first? Like which one is considered the best? He's got quite a few and I see the name thrown around on here often but I don't recall the book everyone suggests

>>3531035
fair enough then bro
I ain't sayin dont, if it works for you it works so jus do it; but yeah if it was me I'd look at a tablet thats a graphics tablet first and foremost
hope whatever you decide works out for you!

New to drawing altogether, took an art class in high school but that was spent drawing penises and turning them into the turn-in box.

Been spending my first few days trying to not symbol draw and instead shape draw.Trying to draw shapes and everything, dabbling in shading.

(Do you just draw out the general shape of something with basic shapes and then fill in the details/erase stuff or am I doing this wrong)

>>3531135
Keep in mind the Coke can isn't getting light from that light-bulb, I looked up a picture of a Coke Can and picked the best looking one for shade practice.

>>3531135
stop using MS paint

>>3531140
I was actually using SAI...

>>3531141
oh, sorry
I associate little white pixels with paint

>>3528877

x is pretty big with anime fan art, specifically naruto, theres tons of x art with akatsuki robes

how is this?

>>3531156
>4500x4500
bitch if you dont

I got a tilted setup but I still end up hunching over too much. Is there any other tips besides 'lmao, keep your back st8'

I draw little doodles on my notebook when bored in class, this is a cute little girl on a shirt too big for her

>>3531178
Also this little fella, opinions?

>>3531157

how big should I normally make image sizes?

>>3531184
>>3527910
>RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
>#1)
>>screenshot the image and post that instead
>#2)
>>change camera capture settings to something smaller
>#3)
>>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

>>3531184
>jasper
you have nice taste but you are retarded anon

I've tried reading "Fun with a pencil" as per the sticky's guide, but I don't understand it, is it all just some dude's sketchbook?

>>3531185
>>3531189


oh fuck my ass, I didnt see that. my bad

>>3530054
I don't know how to explain it, but I want to give it a feel of pic related.
I'm not good at shading yet

Why does Keys to Drawing have me do stuff like draw my own hand? I thought the "point" or part of the fundamentals I needed to learn first was construction and building things out of simple shapes and such.

I'm having difficulty maintaining my proportions when drawing digitally so I had a question. Can visual measuring techniques be applied to digital art when using a tablet? If so, how?

>>3531226
You have to understand how to seebefore applying the fundies

Tried spending longer than 15 minutes on a study for once. Do you guys find it more helpful to do many shorter studies or a few long studies?

>>3531229
can you "understand how to see" if you just study anime? i am asking seriously.

>>3531256
Because it is so stylized it seems like it would mask your mistakes better, so I'm not sure it would be very efficient. I'm not very experienced though

Supposed to be Mbappé

how do I practice art when I have other interests

>>3531311
Time allocation skills i.e. don't spend 4 hours a day doing dumb normie shit like snapchatting

>>3531311
Stop browsing memes, playing vidigaems, etc.

>>3531311
Give them up or you're NGMI.

>>3531250
I find it helpful to do both, but I suppose it really depends on what your focus is

Reading is too hard for my smooth brain and Keys To Drawing is asking me to draw all this complex stuff at the beginning without teaching me what I thought were the basics like construction. Any exercises or fundamental lessons in video format that are recommended to help a low IQ like me?

>>3530034
I just got into it recently after watching a playthrough of containment breach, i listened to some top 20 lists of best scps so im just starting to get to the meat of it. SCP foundation is hands down one of the best things on the internet.
lol "dracula factory" XD. Are you more of a fan of building SCP? im still trying to memorize the different classes but i find the artifact ones most creep- interesting.

>>3530127
brilliant

>>3530128
Think of it instead of them trying to make the other anon feel better, oh and themselves. thats just how people are.

>>3531228
I try don't really measure using tools or anything, but you can use the methods of measurement that rely on maintaining the proportions of your reference-- like using features as landmarks or that kind of thing

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>>3531881
Tbh the leg you showed muscle structure is the only good looking part. I hope you keep doing that and eventually get a feel for the geasture.