/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

never did loomis but also don't "just draw." i prefer my own version of construction and tend to advocate for all artists to find their own way and not stringently stick to loomis. i still do have a lot to learn and apply n im grinding studies every day to fill in my visual library. ive been covering a lot of female anatomy the past 1-2 weeks so not a lot of variety here atm!

>>3513910
I just draw. I couldn't have come this far by grinding someone else's shitty idea of fundamentals. I have developed my own unique style.

>>3513910
loomis is an absolute garbage meme that drawlets actually believe
there's no rule to art, just go outside and study your surroundings

>>3513935
wow, you're really good. I notice a lot of anime artists "just draw" and don't use loomis at all, and they unironically turn out better than the artists who grind loomis all day because the loomis guys just end up making half western have anime abominations. Meanwhile yours and mine>>3513929 look amazing

blog?

>>3513935
PLEASE post your blog, I will literally commission you as many times as you need to pay your bills or whatever

>>3513940
>yours and mine look amazing

Damn you didn’t have to do him like that

>>3513940
>>3513945
sorry guys, don't really have the discipline to maintain a blog, i just draw for fun
here have another one

>>3513955
not even a deviantart? damn. i know you do commissions.

>>3513956
not on any social platforms except this website, unfortunately
i doodle for free, usually hanging out at the elder scrolls general on /vg/ drawing people's video game characters

>>3513929
This looks mediocre, that other fag is blowing smoke up your ass 100%

>>3513964
>other fag
but that was him

>>3513929
wait...are those lines on her chest her CLAVICLES? oh my god dude, you could stand a little bit of loomis honestly

Started with Loomis around 6 or so years ago and have since moved on to copying/referencing artists I like.

>>3513963
based

>>3513929
>filename
that was posted on beg

>>3513971
It's called STYLE
why would I want to copy loomis's style
i might as well just buy a camera and start taking pictures instead of drawing
post your work if you think you're so good

>>3513990
alright man, that can be your style if you want, no rules against that.
but if it is, daaamn you got bad taste.

>loomis
I like to use the triangle technique thank you very much

>>3513910
Just fucking draw kiddo.
Who the fuck is this Loomis fag? Sounds like some plebshit.

I just draw mostly, sometimes I draw stuff from reference but not really often. Of course if I planned on going pro I'd study more but I am happily a hobbyist.

>>3513999
How can "taste" be bad if it's such a subjective thing

>>3514001
This. Leonardo DiCaprio never even heard of Loomis yet he created masterpieces like this

>>3514012
*DaVinci i mean

>>3514012
>DiCaprio
I know that feel anon

>>3513929
This is b8 and the person that actually drew that pic isn't like this

>>3513929
O-okay anon, thanks for sharing!

Someone get this guy some fucking help

>>3514018
Be honest, did you draw it?

>>3513928
yikes

I don't draw a tenth as much as I should so I think what progress I have made, what little of it there might be, is owed largely to the authors I'd studied like Loomis and youtube guys like AMB and Proko

>>3514012

>>3513955
Ok, that first one sucked ass but this is passable

>>3513910
I did Looomees and just draw meme.

>>3514012
Thats Andy Warhol you idiot.

>>3513910
I am a follower of lord sycra.

>>3514077
just draw lelel

>>3514077
when are you gonna draw a whole body, nose

>>3514080

>>3514082

>>3514084

>>3514077
>>3514079
>he still draws exactly like he did the day he joined this board three years ago or so

I WAS ROOTING FOR YOU! YOU WERE THE CHOSEN (nosen?) ONE! WHY!?

>>3514069
Another dumb bites the dust!hahaha!

>>3514085
never.

>>3513928
Why draw only hamplanets?

>>3514086
This was me 3 years ago though.

>>3514085
Are you posting the same shit from year ago, or are you still stuck nowhere?
Jesus man...

>>3514095
i just dont draw much, dont have much to post.

>>3514093
Oh, so you actually finished things then. I see.

>>3514099
ill finish things when i get better. At the time these single images would be cherry picked and took 5-6 times more time. So i improved, its just a question of increasing my level to where im willing to complete projects again.

Something I've been working on 3 months ago, but since had wrist surgery and haven't finished it as I'm still in cast. Currently doing some light pencil excesses, but drawing hurts still. Fuck this mortal shell. Never used Loomis as I've been drawing as a hobby, and I know it shows. I rarely even use references.

>>3514106
Older version in which I have the references I used for this one (taking screenshots from one drive, in bed atm) since my cintiq is large I kept everything on the layer. I usually have my logo on the posts I share anywhere.
>>3514098
I most likely draw even less as I work 9-6 in IT, and pump 3-5 drawings a whopping year.

>>3513973

The only anon with potential. Lol the absolute state of this animoo-infested board

>>3514012
kek

>>3514106
your sketch looks better man, wtf?

>>3513928
How do I get this good.

>>3514125
Last I remember I was trying to do lineart, which I've never really done before. You can also notice the cofee cup is warped stupidly. I accidentally posted a liquified version where I was trying to fix the chest portion. I believe pic related was the most up to date version.

Here's something I actually sort of finished, the hands look like kebabs

I just draw and do half-assed studies sporadically, unsurprisingly I completely suck ass because of this. Pic related is garbage figure drawings I did two days ago.

>>3514137
stiff. lifeless

I used to only draw the images in his books and never read it.I recently started reading it(head and hands book). Attempted to apply it in this portrait

>>3514012
neighter did you of davinci it seams

>>3514157
post. your work.

Most of you guys aren't bad at all to be honest, I don't get the negative comments

>>3514177
just crabs who hate on everyone

>>3514180
new to ic, what's crab

>>3514172
dude

>>3514106
>stopping drawing for 3 months
NGMI faggot. hahahahahah

>>3514182
a newfaggot meme that you use whenever people are honest with you about your art

>>3514182

>>3514182

>>3514177
I only hate Noseshitter because he actively goes around namefagging like a attentionwhore when he's been trash for ages. Then he procedes to give critiques and "posts his work" as if its evidence that his critiques are somehow good. And more often then not they're just completely wrong or only target the obvious.

I stopped coming to /ic/ for a bit because about 50% of the posts were his and /ic/ doesn't have mods. Which was actually a good thing I stopped coming but its still shitty for the board in general.

>>3514194
>>3514201
its just pure cringe
like when a 15 year old discovers what a fallacy is and then brings it up in every dispute

congrats you know what dunning-kruger and the crab analogy is, better post it as often as possible to let everyone know how cultured you are

100% correlation of people using this meme and people who cant draw, wonder what that means

>>3514205
he's also a massive autistic pussy dont forget

>>3514187
Fuck you, still can't, might need a couple more months. Had a bone necrosis of my lunate, hopefully I'll ever draw again with my right wrist... I've been struggling with pain for the last 5 years, no wonder I never made much progress...

>>3514210
I don't really post much about him or talk to him except as a warning to newfags since I know he loves all the negative attention he gets.

Its still a cancer and I wish he'd just get banned.

>>3514194
wow, this perfectly fits my observation of ic so far.

>>3514211
what the fuck man, was it a successful surgery? How did this happen?

>>3514215
so now make sure to spam it like its the funniest thing in the world and pretend you've been on this board for more than a year and give really terrible advice and redlines to beginners

>>3514211
I genuinely hope you can recover and draw again, bro.

>>3514175
work? oh nonononoNO, child. I play!

>>3514012
>Leonardo DiCaprio
>he means Leonardo DaVinci
>It's a Michelangelo painting

>>3514227
yeah looks like child's play alright

>>3514211
Damn. Can you draw with yor other hand at the very least? Or with a different hold?

>>3514234
>Haha! I got the joke everyone!
>I'm so smart right guys?!

>>3514235
loomis took me maybe only a few months to master. child's play? took me a liftetime

>>3514242
Projecting: The Post

>>3514051
yikes

Thanks for the laughs while I take breaks from drawing, guys

>>3514266
Post. your. work.

>>3514244
we get so many people like you that its not even funny, just try to drop the whole "hey guys look how ironic i am and how fucking difficult it is to talk to me" schtick and lose the ego

obviously you are a very bad artist, but you can improve so why not try

>>3514272
>we
its funny you include yourself

>>3514220
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kienböck%27s_disease tldr: no blood supply to lunate bone, dies from the inside out. Pain is similar to just overusing your hand. If not treated in time the bone can't be recovered and your wrist bones will have to be fused.
>>3514226
Thanks man, atleast I'm sick leave, Surgery was month ago, supposedly successful. I'll know more at my next check up. Had the bone cauterised and filled with bone matter and an additional vein attached through a titanium bolt. If everything heals fully it should be 100% as normal according to the doctor.
>>3514238
I tried for few days with my left hand, but I don't think it's worth it as my right post surgery supposedly will heal soon.
Pic related is something from 2 years ago

>>3514103
>I don’t draw much
>I’ll finish things when I get better

kek

>>3514277
really couldnt help yourself could you.

okay enjoy shitposting and being bad forever, just trying to give you some solid advice

>>3514279
>dat hair
atleast you've improved a bit since then.

>>3514289
okay girl

>>3514279
your art is cool and all, but don't hijack the thread please..

>>3514211
Damn I thought u were a girl

>>3514292
okay faggot

>>3514296
lol, oh deary me child. you need to go practice more instead of getting so upset

>>3514293
Hell of a thread anyway, like everything on /ic/
Atleast I have an excuse to be here, instead of drawing.
>>3514295
What made you think so? Most artist girls I know draw dudes, not girls exclusively like me.

>>3514299
i understand youre trying to bait me into talking to you (all you people want is attention, reminder that youre not special and there have been so many people like you in the past few years) so this will be my last post

i'm better than you.
because i work hard and dont spend my time playing internet popularity games and pretend that im better than i am for the attention. sorry mommy and daddy didnt love you enough, okay off to practice :)
nice chairs loser

>>3514306
>I know you're baiting me so I'll say it so that maybe you'll stop replying and I'll get the last word
if you know its bait don't reply you retard

>>3514304
I’m a girl and am drawing exclusively girls right now too. Don’t know your name and drawings just looked...girl-like

>>3514308
i made it clear that that was my last post responding to him, RETARD. bye

>>3514310
Jokes on you, I was him the whole time and you just replied.

Checkmate brainlet.

>>3514051
.........blog?

>>3514306
the problem is you haven't worked hard enough to develop humility and have no idea where my advice is coming from. you have no experience, insight, or cleverness to understand that my advice was both legitimate, helpful, and came from a place of legitimate authority. work as hard as you like, you will never accomplish anything because you have no natural ability and your attitude will never allow you to overcome that barrier.

a person's character is most important

>>3514312
damn, you really played me like a fiddle, now that I am defeated I'm gonna have to lend you my wife so you can fuck her in front of me like the winner you are.
Ooor, just fuck off maybe.
Or post your work!

>>3514320
>so this will be my last post
only insecure dumbasses who always need the last words ever say this.

My job is done, farewell mein small minded friend

Every thread on this board devolves into autistics arguing with eachother. Zero chill on this board. It would be a little bit more reasonable if people here actually draw well but most don't.

Welcome to /ic/ kek, back to the other boards I go.

>back to the other boards I go
so another loser that's been here a week huh

>>3514177
Its just nitpickers. Don't mind them

>>3514309
Id take that as a compliment, most girl artists have really pleasant and colorful artworks, while men trend to focus on the grayscale.
I think it's time to abandon thread.

>>3514187
I hope that doesnt happen to you friend

>>3514318

Are you joking? I just came into this thread and followed you two's posts upwards, and it was two children flinging shit at each other. I didn't see a single word of legitimate helpful advice or a hint of legitimate authority.

He might lack humility but your complete lack of self awareness as you made that post is even more impressive.

>>3514338
you have it wrong, men focus too much on technical construction and tend to fuck everything up until they understand a procedural method of drawing. it's why hacks like loomis are so praised here


>>3514343
im glad to have at least impressed you, my good sir, even if i had to make a joke to do it!

>>3514269
Currently learning how to add value to glossy clothing like latex. Critique appreciated.

>>3514347
Well what do I know, I praise Paul Kwon (Zeronis). According to /ic/ I should drown in a river most likely.

>>3514348
Shit, shouldn't have saved as a png. lol

>>3514348
>>3514356
when learning how to render unfamiliar materials go back to basic shapes and use a reference, then move up to complex shapes. if you have trouble learning using pure value, funny enough, try rendering in color
just looking at what you posted here though, i think you might have tried too hard and forgotten some real basic, fundamental rules. use a reference. it's not really worth giving a specific ciritique here, you wouldnt be able to correct pen and marker anyway but like with all materials, look especially at how highlights interact with values next to it.

>>3514354
dont act like a human being should know that name, or yours

>>3514367
yet here you are replying to me ;)

>>3514371
okay

>>3514367
Thanks anon. I'll render spheres and cylinders with pinterest refs until it makes sense to me.

>>3514386
the spheres and cylinders don't matter you moron you need to understand how light works against materials, any material at all first. forget latex for now it will only confuse you

>>3513929
quit bullying this person anon

>>3514393
children like to pick on easy targets

>>3514293
fuck you, i wanna know about his goddamned wrist

>>3514279
jesus christ- i hope it heals ok. and i hope it doesnt happen to me..

>>3514435
Here's how it looked before the surgery.
I hear it's pretty rare, I'm just incredibly unlucky.

>>3514446
seriously? All that drama for this? wristlet...

In my opinion, everyone adapts the process of construction to fit their needs, and there are sometimes when you can infer line placement without the need of construction and make things work. But i also think that to be able to correctly infer the lines one MUST have the background knowledge and some degree of understanding of the concepts of construction which Loomis and other books talk about. I would say the rest comes with Practice™

Pic related is how my process when drawing from imagination works, I will begin with some basic action and then build upon it and refine it as I go.

Loomis is useless.

>>3514453
post work :^)

>>3513910
I tried fundies grinding and burned out after a couple months, (well i mean, i burned out and my mom was horrifically murdered). After a month & a half of recovery, i tried "just drawing" and have been doing that for a while now. It's been frustrating but i'm finally coming out of my slump and feeling comfortable again.
To not at least TRY pursuing my dreams would be dishonoring my mother's memory

my art
>>3512009
>>3512139

>>3514459
keep the sad stuff to yourself anon ;_;

>>3514462
sorry

sugoi had a rough life

>>3514463
it's okay, just thought it was a bit too personal to be sharing with a bunch of weebs drawing cartoons

>>3514466
I liked it but I don't want him to get bullied by dunning-krabbers either so maybe that was the right move.

>>3514467
lol

>>3514467
thanks anyways anon kun

>>3514455

>>3514448
Even basic knowledge will tell you this bone is the central pivot of your wrist.

>>3514446
I prefer my wrists... B oneless

>>3514481
It's fine Octodad, bones are a luxury

>>3514475
did she survive

Most of my process is inspired by illustrators and comic artists, so things like Famous Artist Course, Loomis, etc. Anatomy mostly from reference pics or looking at diagrams

it wasnt until this year i looked into an art book and it was hampton so ive never used loomis.

>>3514106
Blog?

i just draw but i really need to start grinding the basics again i loose so much time fixing my sketches

>>3514446
good to see you had your operation, I am the dude with the finger. I too manage to go to the doctor but in my case he said I need a few months of preparatory kinetotherapy before I actually take the operation

hope you will be able to draw just fine by that time

>>3514279
>left hand
I've had a couple of friends and a few artists I look up to had an accident with their right hand at one point in their lives, forcing them to use the left hand. They found their grasp of fundies significantly improved when they start getting used to drawing/writing on their left hand. I forgot the article but it has something to do with developing both your left/right brain that made these people improve 2x than before. All I'm saying is there is still hope if you can no longer use your right hand for drawing

The fuck is a loomis?

Boy this thread is a testament to why people maybe SHOULD utilize loomis
Thanks for the keks, dunning krugers

>>3514598

>>3514051
Good stuff, Anon.

>>3514022
Haha no, but I saw the original artist ripping in a cringe thread saying he wished people would stop posting it. It triggers me to see someone getting picked on like that, but if I get too triggered it'll just get perpetuated cause that's how it be.

>>3513935
Loomis works. That's the bottom line, regardless of what works for you, loomis can work for everyone.

>>3514674
who is this and what does it mean

>>3514627
oh no no no no no

>>3514627
>index finger longer than middle

>>3514009
by going against societies norms

>>3515072
That's wrong. Her fingers are bent so you can't really tell what their lengths are.

>>3515162
It just doesn't seem natural, maybe if it wasn't a uniform tubing, but I can't think of when the fingers would look like that

>>3515183
also her thumb seems off

>>3515183
ew those are some ugly fucking fingers, gross

>>3514092
??????????

No loomis just draw here

I’m sure I’d benefit from it but bad adhd has got me a backlog of reading materials that I never actually sit down to read

>>3515282
Me too. I don't know how people have the patience to sit down and trudge through anything by Scott Robertson for example. It's like trying to read the Bible from start to finish and getting stuck in Leviticus or Numbers because it gets so dull

just draw.

>>3515313
so uh if anyone needs proof that loomis is the answer look no farther than this post

>>3515313
these are top cute

>>3515328
Unironically looks better than the apes some of you keep posting.

>>3515328
theres a divide on ic between people who only want to draw symbol drawn anime and people who want to actually git gud, possibly work in the industry. let them do their doodles

>>3514012
that was actually made by the indian artist Leonardo DiCrapnio

>>3515387
>hurr durr stop drawing aneemay you all suck but I’m gonna work in duh industree!!!
This is the part where I tell you to post your work and you bitch out like a little faggot.

>>3515387
I highly doubt you could draw convincing anime/manga style.
Do you know what Dunning-Kruger means? You should look it up.

>>3515594
>>3515585
my brain is incapable of drawing billboard eyes and facial features without form so i will never be able to draw anime, and i dont want to. its many peoples goals to just study and learn anime and thats fine. you wont work in the industry tho. and i dont plan on working in the industry either. which is why i said "possibly work in the industry"
i already posted my work its the first response to this thread

>>3515604
All I read from your post was
>I can't fucking draw so my critique is worthless

>>3515608
I can draw! pic related I drew today

>>3515611
alright you can draw

>>3515611
ygmi!

>>3515611
nice.

>>3515313
Liz?

>>3515611
looks traced. even if it's not, glorified photocopiers are ngmi

>>3515661
>looks traced

I rarely save work, this is from maybe a month ago. I try to use loomis but i can never focus and mainly look through other artists work, im just at a fucking loss constantly.

tldr; im not ngmi

>>3515313
was this drawn in flipnote studio or something

>>3513910
I think in 2018,if you do digital work, there's much better ways you can learn and construct things instead of trying to do line drawings and drawing thousands of boxes

>>3514091
>>3514085
>>3514084
>>3514082
>>3514079
>>3514077

WHAT THE FUCK i haven't been on this board for 2 years, why haven't you improved???

>>3514106
>wrist surgery
Im also thinking about giving myself another ligameme since I only have one, where did you do the operation?

>>3515714
I think 3d software basically made learning things like perspective unnecessary. You can spend years "getting good" or you can just trace over a 3d model in 5 minutes and then add your own details. It all pays the same

>>3515715
>nosebro has been here for 2-3 years

>>3515889
Maybe if you're an illustrator, but as a designer/concept artist you have to be able to translate your designs into 3d objects and draw them from multiple angles so that people can make the 3d models in the first place. Good designers have internalized perspective so they can iterate and sketch much faster than anyone can stitch together boxes in 3d

>>3516201
well this applies much less to figure drawings
constructing everything is completely autistic

there's a set of normal perspectives you should internalize, you can do the complicated wonky shit in 3d instead of memeing yourself

>>3515387
You got that half wrong.
There's indeed a divide and one group are indeed the hardcore animu artists who draw nothing else. But the other group believes they can git gud but they only draw boxes and meme about loomis.

There is no right or wrong, you will have to find your own path if you truly want to git gud but you'll have to do something that you haven't done before.
Go sign up for a figure drawing class or something and see how that goes.

>>3513910
>>3514809
I started with Loomis and then I started just draw with what I learned from it.
Loomis is a good starting point for people to get their heads around the way of thinking.

>>3516355

>>3513910
i use the hewlett method

>>3513928
>I don't just draw
>does exactly what he says he doesn't do.
Ok anon whatever makes you sleep at night.

>>3514265
You sure showed him XD

>>3516533
If “just draw” includes studies then yeah I guess I do just draw but I figured just draw meant JUST DRAW

>>3516562
lol what? like you close your eyes and wiggle the pencil around? of course it means drawing stuff

>>3516572
no like you draw solely from imagination

>>3516575
no that would be super dumb

>>3516586
I feel like that's how most people take the phrase "just draw"
I don't really care what the technique I use is called its just not loomis studying lol

>>3514206
It's just pure cringe
like when a human copies the english language while growing up as a baby, parrots words they learned from school and uses it in every interaction.

Congrats, you know how to use the english language you're so smart.

100% correlation of people using this meme and being youyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyouyou.

>>3514242
>XD guys look at this guy, he got the joke and so did I but I didn't say anything
>better waste time typing up this ebic reply to make him see the error of his ways

>>3514289
I like how you think you or your useless whining are of any signifigance that you would tell yourself you're helping. Grow up.

>>3516572
actually sometimes i do this for gesture drawing from imagination. i picture what i want in my head with my eyes closed and then draw it without looking. it works.

Just draw.

Growing up, I was always better than my peers, so I was very stubborn in HS. Wish I accepted ideas/techniques from other people, and genuinely tried to learn from other people.

>>3518081
I would have been a better artist today.

>>3513928
B-Blog?

What I'm doing right now. Haven't drawn in a while and I'm getting back into it by drawing something I drew years ago.
Right now I'm "just drawing" but I'd love to know what to draw to improve. For reference I want to get into animation so if there's anything I need to do specifically I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction.