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3512321 No.3512321 [Reply] [Original]

why is everyone obsessed with shitty modern anime styles when the only right answers are 90s styles?

>> No.3512322
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3512322

>>3512321
YIKES

>> No.3512323

>>3512322
YIKES

>> No.3512325

>>3512322
Absolute gold.

>> No.3512350

>>3512321
90s anime art is objectively the worse along with 2000s except for the few golden nuggets in the mount of shit
either go for 80s or 2010s

>> No.3512351

floof is GOOD, redarts!

>> No.3512357
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>>3512321
>when the only right answers are 90s styles?
lol

>> No.3512404
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>> No.3512418

>>3512404
And well have it tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow, and the day after that too.

>> No.3512435
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3512435

Just keep telling yourself that, anon.

>> No.3512443

>>3512351
i like you

>> No.3512445

>>3512357
fuck kamille with a burning rod.

>> No.3512447

>>3512404
No we haven't, this board is slower than that. Maybe in your NEET worldview everything blurs into a single day.

>> No.3512562
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>>3512321
It really isn't, there was a lot of good parts that i wish they'd kept in the modern style, but its still too rough and a bit too exaggerated and silly in parts to be better.
I for one am glad the hair got way more tame, the weird poof bangs that make no sense needed to go and stay go.

>> No.3512590

>>3512562
>bit too exaggerated and silly in parts to be better.
It's fucking art man, what's wrong with being exaggerated?

>> No.3512599

>>3512321
>Implying modern anime is just one style
>using "anime" as a term
Seriously

>> No.3512601
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>>3512590
its exaggerated in a bad way. Like the whole anime hair was just dumb, it didn't look good, it didn't look realistic, and usually it wasn't consistent and was just made to identify characters. Bringing in that back down to more realistic levels really does look a lot nicer.

On the flipside, the chins being closer to reality hurts it because it does take some of the appeal away when you combine it with the simplistic nature of the drawings. The sharp and concave nature of their jaws looks more deformed than human-like. Simplifying it into a more rounded shape makes their faces look more human even if it is less realistic.

>> No.3512618

>>3512590
You missed the part where he said "too" exaggerated. Implying its so much that it becomes unappealing. Basic reading, anon.

>> No.3512619

>>3512601
>it didn't look realistic,
If you gave a shit about this you wouldn't be drawing anime in the first place

>> No.3512620

>>3512618
Thanks, pedantic anon.

>> No.3512623

>>3512618
You're welcome, misinterpreting anon.

>> No.3512630
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>>3512619
You're still attempting to portray a real thing in a stylistic fashion.
You can't draw humans with no joints and say its style so its okay now. Humans have joints and its the reason movement works the way it does. Hair comes out of your head in a certain way, being stylized doesn't change that. You can have some fun with it, but the classic anime hair did not really go in any categories.
It was too exaggerated to be stylized realism, and it was too normal to be complete fantasy stylistic bullshit.

Hair should look like hair, and when you have bangs that come out 3 head lengths away from your forehead, there's a problem.
The silly hair was never a good stylistic choice anon. Modern anime has much more appealing hair styles.

>> No.3512632

>>3512630
Learn how to edit. There's no objective stylization. You clearly haven't seen 80s hair with their ozone-depleting glory.

>> No.3512635

>>3512632
subjectivefags are the literal worst.
>make stupid comment
>people explain why its stupid
>w-well its just subjective anyways

>> No.3512636

>>3512635
As if you're any better

>> No.3512640

>>3512636
At the very least I attempted to explain why you're wrong.
All you said was "its better because I said so", something being subjective doesn't mean you can't have meaningful discussions or reasoning behind why you like something more than something else.

>> No.3512646

>>3512640
As if you're any better

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>>3512562
>>3512601
>>3512630

People actually did style their hair like this back then, along with loafers with no socks and high waisted clothes. The prep look was in and people loved it.

Most anime back then were very much a time capsule of popular fashion styles of it's decade.

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>>3512661
A bit of poof is fine. I mean the all out spikey bangs that flip sides whenever they move their head.
I get what they were going for, but it doesnt really fit. And anime hair in itself where it makes no logical sense is fine too, but in these or like the OP or even gits you see hair that's kinda supposed to be a thing but its ridiculous at the same time.

>> No.3512685

>>3512350
it seems that way when you think back but the 90s were okay, in the movies you had like princess mononoke and ghost in the shell, and quite a few others. and for series you had trigun, cowboy bebop, serial experiments lain ,neon genesis, love hina and a bunch of good ovas like gunsmith cats.

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>>3512321
The only good anime style is Tezuka. Any other anime style is simply a polished turd in comparison.

>> No.3512701

>>3512700
glorified Disney copy who fucked all subsequent animators and artists in the future. No thanks.

>> No.3512704

>>3512700
Literally a space shota
They where way ahead for their time.

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>>3512700
found jotaro

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>>3512321
How would one go about replicating this low quality tv rip look that old anime has?
The noise, the particular colour palette, the way whites seem to be over exposed and their brightness leaks out of the space it fills, the way the lines are pure black but don't stand out as gareish.. I don't know what it is that gives it that look

>> No.3512713

>>3512708
I think having a style that looks like an 80s anime tv rip would be really popular, I'd love to know what gives it that look

>> No.3512716
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>>3512700
>>3512704

A genius that can't be surpassed.

>> No.3512731

>>3512713
Megalo Box?

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>>3512716

>> No.3513897

>>3512321
the correct anwer is 1993-2005 anime

>> No.3513919

>>3512321
literally my first waifu <3

>> No.3513927

>>3512321
Because there are so many ways to draw "modern" style whatever the fuck that is, there are just so many different styles and each artist puts their own unique twist on it. We are unironically in an art bubble right now, the market is over saturated with insanely good artists who have nothing to do with their time but draw, sure there are bad ones but you can find good ones EASILY. Colors and shit are just so appealing, you can do a lot with digital art software that only gets better every day, from adding interesting and complex backgrounds to putting tiny complex stars and sparkles in pupils

Why would I ever want to look at Speed Racer again

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3514073

Ha, you're all a bunch of plebeians.

>> No.3514104

>>3512716
Nor his degeneracy. Furry Tezuka fuck.

>> No.3514108

>>3512321
>Uses Ranma TG anime as OP pic
>Nabiki is top tits
Shit taste in Ramna chicks, OP

>> No.3514485

>>3514104
Those mice are sexy man, fuck you talmbout

>> No.3514491

>>3512321
The colour palette is dated and the hair screams 80's Japan. Gee anon couldn't tell you.

>> No.3514492

>>3514073
this

>> No.3514500

>>3514491
I'm really bad with colours

what is the palette of the 80s?
What kind of colours should I avoid if I want to mimic it?

>> No.3514518

>>3514500
Washed out mildew colors. Look at the yellow on the top of that girl. It looks like the type of paint that's been sitting on a grandmothers wall for 40 years.

>> No.3514520

>>3514518
Show us anime with good colors.

>> No.3514529

>>3514520
I'll just direct you to a few. Go look at Diebuster, not Gunbuster, but Diebuster's colour palette. If you go look at LOTGH they have a more traditional style palette without looking washed out. The 2010 anime film Colourful, don't watch it it's only kind of okay, uses muted tones to enhance the story telling. Jinrui wa suitai shimasita has some amazing colour work done in it and I would highly recommend it. Nagi no Asukara has very pretty blues that I reference occasionally.

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I'm split

>> No.3514742
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3514742

Modern animes don't have soul.
Computer-generated garbage will never beat hand-drawn animation.

>> No.3514754

>>3514742
For all of his bitching, MightyOtaking uses fucking rotoscoping on his animated shorts, making them uglier than anything he criticizes.

>> No.3514755

>>3512321
Ew

>> No.3514757

>>3514742
This graphic sucks. More detail (and by detail this guy means a few shadows) doesn't equal higher quality or a more appealing look.

>> No.3514760

>>3514710
>that left hand

>> No.3514779

>>3514757
Yeah it's not really fair to compare everything to the golden age of OVA animation.

>> No.3514962

>>3512350
>early 2000s
Yes, holy shit Gundam SEED looks like dogshit

>> No.3514965

>>3514742
This dumb shit makes me want to disembowel myself

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>>3512322
disgusting, no personality whatsoever

>>3512350
detected the underage tohou faggot

>>3512630
>Hair should look like hair, and when you have bangs that come out 3 head lengths away from your forehead

literally where and why are you obsessing over ranma lol? modern anime has way more issues, and hair is definitely among them

>> No.3515007
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I enjoy plenty of modern anime, there are some really good ones in terms of narrative, animation and especially design and style.. but these are just a handful and can't be compared to the golden age of anime 95-2005.

Also that hair argument is pretty silly lol

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>modern anime
OH NO NO

>> No.3515015
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>such great design

>> No.3515016
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>INHALES

>> No.3515019
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>onii-saamaaa!

>> No.3515026
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Yeah contemporary anime sucks ass

>> No.3515027
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All low quality pedo bullshit

>> No.3515045
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3515045

onii-chan watch out!!! ^-^

>> No.3515050

>>3512716
snake???

>> No.3515167

>>3515026
>>3515027
These do suck

>> No.3515177

>>3515167
with terrible taste youll never make it in the art industry

>> No.3515197

>>3515177
they aren't very impressive, flashiness does not good animation make, you could show 1 of a million billion acting moments from the simpsons with better animation than all this mediocre glowing swords crap

>> No.3515207

>>3515197
>2d rotation sequences are unimpressive because they put particle effects on it
>color stories are meaningless because they put particle effects on it
>ive never attempted animation in my life

anyways my dude whatever fits your narrative

>> No.3515215

>>3515207
none of that stuff fits my narative, you made it all up, the animation is just mediocre, you're not showing clips from akira, or even like dirty pair, just rubbishy clips from some flashy rubbishy show you like because there's 10 frames of rotation or some lame shit, colors aren't animation either, shut up

>> No.3515216

>>3515215
>dirty pair
>10 frames
>colors don't matter in animation
youre a bad troll

>> No.3515219

>>3515216
i didn't say they don't matter, i said they don't count as animation, the thing where you make the little drawings move about

dirty pair is well animated, shut up

3 frames then, ty for the correction

https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/ae51208b15a2c6e5bed08e77f4127716.webm

>> No.3515220

>>3512321
I agree i love late 90's style anime

>> No.3515221

>>3515207
It's fascinating, someone posted some pre-effects animated cuts from Fateshit and they looked quite good, way better than the final versions.

>> No.3515327

>>3515026
wat video game is this from?

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>>3514073

>> No.3516937

>>3514742
>Taking what a weeb with kanji in his name says seriously.
lol

>> No.3517624

>>3516937
Not all in that pic is false. (I agree that the ending was a letdown though)

>> No.3517628
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>>3512321
Nah nigga the 80's had it correct

>> No.3518582

>>3517628
What's this from?

>> No.3518603

>>3518582
BAOH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcfykg9jIZM

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I desperately want a good dorohedoro anime adaptation with an 80's animation aesthetic.
It will literally never happen.

>> No.3519158

>>3512435
The first two Angel Cop OVAs have some really great art. Really gritty semi-realism that works well. The last two OVAs look pretty awful, though.

>> No.3519174

>>3518916
if that happens itll get the berserk treatment. 2016 edition

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>>3519158
Ep. 1 collage because why not.

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>>3512630
>Hair should look like hair, and when you have bangs that come out 3 head lengths away from your forehead, there's a problem.

>> No.3520308

>>3518603
Holy fuck its so bad it's good

>> No.3520474

>>3519494
Angel Cop was garbage anime, even by anime standards, and that's not saying a lot for the whole genre in general.

>> No.3520518

>>3520474
Almost took the bait. Almost.

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>>3512321
when u rite, u rite.

>> No.3520571

>>3512632
>There's no objective stylization.
There literally is.

>> No.3522353

>>3512713
What gives it that look is money. Also that it is not painted digitally, but mostly more money.

>> No.3522458

>>3512716
>tfw his secret furry drawings helped him git gud by doing somethign he loves

>> No.3522584

>>3514999
oh look, trips.

>> No.3522744

>>3520543
looks like a bondage fetus with a wig.

>> No.3522970

https://boards.fireden.net/ic/search/image/hO0Xn9BMD297pOIR4igBBQ/

>> No.3522983

>>3512562
Stop. No. You are the cancer that help made this change. Open up this seasons chart and look at every fucking design. All the hair design choices are made so that faggot casual weebs can cosplay as their favourite character easily while their clothing makes most of the distinction.

Anime used to be wild with the hair design, defying gravity and physics. Now it's pozzed up just so that people can easily copslay as the character.

>> No.3522987

>>3522983
>cosplay
Are you legit retard?

>> No.3522988

You can draw and draw, but you will never be able to share your life with your waifu.

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>> No.3522997

>>3522987

Are you? Yeah, you are.

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>>3522997
Cosplay right? Newfag nigger.

>> No.3523063

>>3523053
Designs are simple to be easier to cosplay by a wide range of audience. No longer do we get wacky designs. Not that hard to understand, Queermo.

>> No.3523067

>>3523063
Post non simple designs from TV anime of 80-90s, newfag.

>> No.3523212

>>3522970
>you can only talk about a specific thing, one time, ever

>> No.3523238

I really like the art of that one mahou shoujo anime with the girl brown haired girl protag

I think the anime is about a card game or something

>> No.3523351

>>3515579
fuck this looks much better than the anime, dbz was cool but always looked to sharp or something, this looks rounder, softer

>> No.3523369

>>3523238
Cardcaptor Sakura? Good taste

>> No.3523381

>>3523369
yeah that's it
the artstyle is very visually appealing

>> No.3523383

>>3523381
Look up CLAMP, the creators. I love their other series and just how striking everything is.

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>>3512321

>> No.3523488

>>3523067
I'm not at my computer but it's not just television anime that suffers from not wanting to go beyond and defy physics. The newer generation of Japan artists seem to forget anime has that quality about it and such aspect of it is lost in favor of simple, closer to realistic design.

>> No.3523522

>>3523488
yeah it's because they work of a big library of model sheets, so they're easy to do the computer bits

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>>3523488
>backpedaling
I repeat
>Post non simple designs from TV anime of 80-90s, newfag.

>> No.3523552

>>3523548
I'm not at my computer, retard, can you not read? Wait till I get home and then I'll post plenty of examples.

>> No.3523554

>>3523552
Also I said nothing of 80s and 90s even early 2000s had it going for it. Don't try to pawn me in a hole by default.

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>>3523552
>I'll post plenty of examples.
Can't wait to btfo you.

>> No.3523563

>>3523557
You're already prepping yourself to lose if that image of yours means anything.

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>>3523554
>Anime used to be wild with the hair design, defying gravity and physics. Now it's pozzed up just so that people can easily copslay as the character.
Now I'm curious. 70s?