/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stanislav Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

Here's a sketch that I'm working on right now, the values are a little fucky but I'm gonna try to even em out

>>3500267
Is this better?

No response on the last one, so...

How do i start practicing gestures? I'm doing drawabox, but i think I should also practice other stuff at the same time.
Should I start drawing the whole figure, or just "stickmans"?

Blease

>>3500728
Her center of balance looks a lot better, in the last one she looked like she would fall backwards, but this is more grounded

>>3500735
I know this reference image, I did a piece on it. If you are trying to draw exactly how it looks from the reference as a study per say, then I’d say take your time, get the shapes down before you start trying to block in shading.

trying to make my skin look more interesting.

>>3500776
I actually only used a movie still, not another drawing.

>>3500781
While the skin is nice, the eye placement might be a little *too* interesting

>>3500788
Yeah, the pic is mine, and I used the movie still, so that’s what I’m saying, get shapes down before adding anything like detail or shading

>>3500704
im a complete beginner considering getting an entry level tablet like a wacom intuos. i have minimal experience drawing, but am interested in digital drawing as it lacks some of the more frustrating parts of paper (imperfect erasing of mistakes, cost of supplies, etc).

is it worth getting a tablet for US$80-100 if im not that good at drawing already? i feel like it'd really help me get into it more, but i could just be a retard and suck even worse at using a tablet. are the entry level tablets like the intuos accurate/easy enough to use?

also, what the fuck is with nibs? i cant figure out if you can use the same one for years and not notice or if theyre like mechanical pencil refills; there's not many forum posts about them i can find and it seems pretty split between people not even noticing/caring about the nibs wearing down, or being pissed they have to keep buying replacements. if nibs are a major issue ill probably pass since i dont want to bother constantly ordering shit for drawing, thats one of the reasons i want a tablet in the first place lmao

>>3500715
progress

>>3500817
I have a small intuos, and hadn't drawn for years when I bought mine. There was a bit of a learning curve but I felt like it wasn't too bad (I use corel painter). As far as nibs go it took me about 6 months or so before mine was worn down, but I think I press too hard. All in all they're pretty easy and hassle free, but I've since gone back to traditional. For me, I feel like digital was allowing me to create higher quality works without improving my drawing, but that's really just a matter of your process. I don't think you'd regret buying one.

>>3500715
progress

please critique my work.

>>3500817
Skill not included.

how do i draw the perspective of the man?

>>3500835
Next time you produce something of this level you should put it in the draw thread, the only real big thing is that you need a lot more time spent rendering areas of the skin for example on the hands to make it smoother and on the other eye and parts of the forehead. But really it's good enough as it is.

>>3500835
I don't really have anything to say, looks nice to me.

>>3500867
this guy is probably right

Drawing is hard

>>3500904

How good is drawabox.com for begs?

Question about Loomis head construction. The center line through the circle is the eyebrows, right? And the mouth falls at bottom of the circle? Am I understanding this correctly?

>>3500908
A solid 4.7

>>3500904
It is, but you're definitely on the right track! Try pushing your values a little more to give her form around the eyes and cheeks

>>3500904
Style is very good but the values are very bad and need to be pushed much more to match your image which has much steeper values. Which means you'll need to spend a lot more time shading tediously which is boring but what you need to do to improve.

Trying to get into gestures. Are these actually gestures or am I still contouring?

>>3500929
I also want to get into gesture, any answers for this anon?

>>3500929
You should nail poses first before you do gesture and the first couple will at least take you half an hour to one hour or else you will regret it
>>/ic/thread/S3480849#p3482401
Then you can cut the time down when you figure out what you are supposed to be doing

>>3500929
You're well on your way and you're describing the gesture well for the most part.
However you seem to be reverting to contour when you can't adequately describe the gesture, torso of the bottom right for example.
You also have the habit of stopping your line when you reach the end of a specific bodypart, when one long unbroken line would be better suited.
For example the outstretched leg, stopping at the knee when one long fluid "S" curve that describes the entire leg would be better suited.
might give you a visual example later on but for now i got to scoot

>>3500959
>>3500960
Thank you this is all valuable information

Critique?

>>3500970
Good for /beg/ but:
I can see what looks like a photo you pasted in in the background, paint over that a lot more and there is a lot of weakness in the mask. You need to study rendering -- material studies on plastic and cloth and get a better reference, the lighting from behind should be way more intense.

Hmmm?

>>3501027
His ears are humble before christ

>>3501030
Our Lord and Savior has only one ear.

>>3500905
i like this ref

>>3501035
My bad, I'm not really religious

>>3501043
Very nice! I think I'm gonna sleep on it and take a crack at drawing her tomorrow

>>3501044
Don't worry that's definitely not from the Bible

first time on autodesk sketchbook, switched from manga studio just now.

>>3501027
stop cleaning your shit with paper towels

>>3501073
get better and hands and your golden

FUCK ME!!!I'm so fucking slow at copying, how the hell do I get faster?

>>3500929
>>3500960
I'm back baby

>>3501108
draw to a timelimit

I am going to do more of these, just want confirmation that this is the right way to do gesture, because I have been doing it wrong for the last few mouths

>>3501131
This is very helpful. Thanks again its very much appreciated.

>>3501108
Draw more.

Complete beginner, like started last week or maybe before beginner. Drawing is pretty fun so far even though I'm pretty bad at it. Here's a draw of Mazinger Z. Anyways how do I git gud fellas?

>>3501167
No idea why it's sideways, sorry about that

>>3501169
take a screen shot of it next time

>>3501167
>Anyways how do I git gud fellas?
How do you get good at anything?

>>3501135
It's looking very stiff. You probably wanna look at this whole conversation

>>3500929
>>3500959
>>3500960
>>3501131

>>3500904
You shoulder render, something I've noticed you don't really do in general.

I know this looks really noob but what do i need to practice most?

>>3501212
That which you have the most trouble with.

first time using watercolors

>>3501224
the reference i used

>hiatus day 2

>>3500742
focus on proko beans, but dabble with whole figures and stickmen too

>>3500817
do you want to get good at traditional too?
>yes
stick with pencil and paper, upgrade to screen tablet when you're decent
>no
get a LARGE screenless tablet

>>3500838
I wouldn't recommend it unless you want his ass to take up half the pic
also work on her hands

>>3501212
line quality, not relying on contour, symbol drawing, form.

>>3500838
her head is a tad too large compared to her body

>>3501231
A month for me anon. I have so much work to do whenever I procrastinate I'm too drained to draw, but I still look at art and come here every day.

>>3501178
okay
thank you
I'll try to take your advice
;_;

I know a lot of Loomis and similar books include fundamentals that could very easily be transferred to animals, but are there any good Loomis level things for drawing animals? I have "The Artist's Guide to Drawing Animals" which is nice for all the musculature, but I'd fucking kill for something like "Drawing the head and hands" for muzzles and paws.

>>3501310
Thank you, and i definitely agree. What do you mean by not relying on contour?

>>3500704

>>3501231
>tfw I haven't drawn in 2 hours and all the knowledge is spilling out.

>>3501345
https://archive.org/details/The_Art_of_Animal_Drawing_Construction_Action_Analysis_Caricature_Dover_Art_Inst

Is it cheating to zoom into pic youre drawing when drawing certain small elements?

>>3501368
Are you retarded?

>>3501368
No rules, only tools

>>3501351
contour is the outline, what we recognize as visible lines, edges of forms and shapes.
Since the visible line lends itself to most tools at hand, like a point to point drawing game, most beginners fall into the trap of focusing on contour at the exclusion of everything else.
It's fine to draw contours as long as that is not all that you're doing.
Theres more things to consider, the form, shape, gesture.
Proko has a part in one of his Q&A's about this but specificly about gesture, the same principle still holds though.
https://youtu.be/-ktfwayByRU?t=1m53s

>>3501368
fuck no.

>>3501366
Thanks, that looks pretty good!

>>3501351
>>3501377
shit. skip to 1:53 for the part I'm talking about

>>3501371
>>3501372
I mean, when youre learning to draw, not making an actual drawing

>>3501383
When do you stop learning?

>>3501384
im drawing a male model full stature shot and I like to zoom in into the placing of fingers or face to make it easier to draw them and I kinda feel guilty because theyre visible without zooming in but I still zoom in becaue its easier for me to draw them like that so I just wondering if thats cheating
no bully pls im new here

>>3501368
Yes, also for the true ethical drawing experience never rotate, flip canvas or use any other brush than hard round.
In all seriousness when you're zooming in to do the details, remember to always check that they look ok fully zoomed out. Sometimes you might be doing details that no one will see or just add unnecessary noise.

why is drawing faces so hard

>>3501392
Post your Face.

>>3501394
no

>>3501167
Cool Mazinger

>>3501382
Makes total sense. Thank you for the advice!

short sketch I did on things I found in my house

just slaughter me with criticism please, even though it might not be a lot to work with.

(ignore the weird thing under the bike)

>>3501410
Draw moar

>>3501410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-279TvNv1A

>>3500781
use warms and cools to make the skin tone interesting.

Is it cheating to read instructional books? shouldnt a really authentic artist develop techniques and understandings from scratch rather than steal them from teachers like loomis?

>>3501456
Of course it is you hack.
here is my lastest masterpiece btw

>>3501456
It is cheating. You should also make your own language, alphabet, and numeral system since you just stole it and you're not being an authentic human.

>>3501456
you don't get anything from being "really authentic", but trying to figure it out yourself first will make the reading stick better in your head

Sorry I’m trying. To resize all I have is my iPad and file management is a nightmare.

>>3501456
yes, you also aren't allowed to use anything you didn't invent
not get the fuck off the internet, and computer

>>3501465
dont be afraid to push those values

Here is a self portrait, yeah I want to push those values, I think I should try charcoal next.

going through drawing on the right side of the brain, drawing on the viewfinder is the worst. The flimsy thing bends and distorts the drawing. I think I need to reinforce the frame.

>>3500704
So i'm doing the exercise in pic and I was wondering, how many times should I do it? Do I just draw it once even if it comes out wrong or should i go until its exactly like the image?

>>3501502
>how many times should I do it?
At least 7 time like the text instructs you to.

>>3501505
I dont see where it says to do it 7 times but alright.

Is there a site to study cute girl faces? I'm going to marathon 10 hours of cute girls when I get home

Am I doing these right? Any feedback appreciated. I really want to move on to study other things. This is kind of getting tiresome.

>>3501388
>tfw never ever rotate canvas
>tfw religously rely on hard round 1px pencil
a-am I retarded?

Just getting started on gestures. Am I doing this right? Penis added to make it more clear what it's meant to be.

>>3501520
Not rotating is fine, some artists use it for efficiency. I think the 1px is ok if you're into that extra thin -type lineart that you will probably shade and/or color later to give it form. Otherwise I would recommend using many different sizes.

>>3500905
jesus christ who is this? What's the source?

>>3501548
https://www.deviantart.com/reine-haru/art/Rowena-Braids-Stock-268905936

cant find the womens name though.

Should I grind drawabox i am not analytic

How do you use oil pastels

>>3500991
Didn't import any pictures. Painted the background. The reference I used had a leather gas mask, so there was only so much I could do with changing the light source and a leather texture

>>3500836
no shit sherlock

>>3500826
thanks, i'll probably pick one up then

>>3501534
yeah that's what I do, shade and color. I do it mostly because brushes with blurry edges trigger my autism, I want to have full control of muh pixels

>>3501591
you shade and color with 1px brush? I hope it's pixel art

>>3501386
I think it's totally fine. Like the other anon said, keep zooming out to make sure everything is correct. Personally, I can't get the same control digitally, so it is a necessity for me

>>3500817
If you want a tablet you should get one but it's a lot of learning involved with pressure and software. You shouldn't need to replace nibs often because you can adjust pressure curves. There's a lot more to learn and explore with digital but it's not going to improve your drawing skills. You need to practice both digital and traditional a lot, get miles everywhere you can and you'll notice improves in traditional reflecting back in digital and vice versa.

>>3500905
I'm a complete beginer and I started two days ago with loomis so this pretty bad, but i did it so might as well upload it

Been trying to do life studies and I keep drawing everything too big. Driving me fucking nuts.

>>3501674
Keep drawing anon. The hardest step is actually starting, so you've come far already.

What do I do if I like my small drawings but when I go bigger it becomes boring and dull

Did some armatures today after some gestures.

Also how does one mentally get through the fact that it will be forever before you can draw what you want?

How do you make people like you?
There's nothing about this in the sticky and not knowing how is impeding my art progress.

>>3501725
You know Dobson? Look at him and then do the exact opposite of what he does online.

>>3501717
I've been trying to work my way up slowly, from drawings that take up a quarter of a page, to half, to a standard printing size.
Adding in detail is when it gets to be too much for me because by that time, when I have done all of the constructing and stuff necessary for big pieces, the drawing is too messy.

It's like anything else though, just practice, make small improvements, you'll get used to it and have more free brain space for adding in your own flare and inspirations.

Also what is that supposed to be?

>>3501724
I'm just breaking through that barrier at the moment, it's more important to appreciate what you can draw than to worry about what you can't. Try to find something fun to draw that isn't human or really symmetrical, something that you've never drawn before and just think about how you've managed to draw something new and that it's another thing in the growing list of things you can.

>>3501725
Don't be overly paranoid about your popularity and try to interact with the art community more, needy people aren't fun to be around.

>>3501724
I got over it by forcing myself to do some gestures for literally like 10 minutes a day and then just doodling my own stuff.
Try looking at it in a meditative sort of way, play some music, sit outside, anything that calms you down. Then finish with drawing what you want, knowing that it's just practice and will not be top quality right now. You can always improve it next week when you learn something new.

>>3500905
decided to take a crack at this, just a quick mini-sketch

>>3500923

>style

if it's not something you do on purpose it's a mistake not style. if you do a study and ended up with stylize look it means you're not seeing properly and need more practice.

style is something you experiment with not something you end up with because of your lack of mileage.

>>3501732
>>3501745

Thanks for the advice anons. I like playing with different ink instruments, so maybe i can just sketch for kicks. I know it falls under painting, in which you shouldn't worry about before learning to draw, but i cant help but like playing with ink, be it tech pens, nibs or brush.

Drawing can be frustrating

>>3501887

>>3500905
Well

hey, I'm looking for advice on cleaning up my lines.
I dont know what it is, but my lines themselves feel gross. even with my stabilizer set to massive, nothing ever feels clean or smooth like I see in other peoples work.
It's probably just a "need more practice" thing, but I was wondering if anyone could help.
also any other feedback is appreciated. I'm working on page 4 right now.

>>3500829
p. good, although the eyes look a bit off
keep it up, anon

>>3501368
It's cheating to use your eyes.

having a bit of a hard time drawing shapes of the shadings. im reading keys to drawing on the way so this was one of the exercises.

>>3502023
As a newbie you'd probably have better luck with something that isn't a bottle (because shadows interact with the glass in a complex way), and to only have on source of light. It makes things make much more sense to me, at least

>>3502024
oh ok. though the book had an exercise fo drawing "tinted glass" yeah i see that.

>>3502027
Oh, sorry. Nevermind then

I don't get too many chances for feed back. Any tips on this?

>>3502034
I know its a rough draft but i'm pretty sure I am dyslexic. do the proportions seem right?

>>3501902
>>3501887
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This looks kind of flat.

>>3501598
No i don't color and shade on 1px, but its always hard round

i honestly had more fun going through with loomis's book instead of keys to drawing. should i ditch keys to drawing and continue loomis?

>>3501887
Good job anon

>>3502066
don't shade using the airbrush tool

>>3501981
yeah, it's a need more practice thing. also, never make your lines not touch, it makes the artwork look unfinished and choppy. and bring your lines/shading to a point

Every time I try to draw heads they come out as these weird overexaggerated peanut shapes with the jaw and forehead jutting forward hard.

I start from regular circles or loomis heads, but it always just ends up the same. How do I fix this idiocy?

>>3502099
you should at least broke some or all forms of symbol drawing beforehand getting into loomis

>>3502023
just also finished this drawing too. i feel like i did quite good job at understanding shading and shadows a bit more and i can see how i can draw them as if they are shapes

>>3502093
thank you for the feedback. I will take all of it into mind while drawing page 4.

Tips please I want to draw ecchi images

>>3502146
Also me

>>3502146
>>3502148
I can only draw this pose

>>3501244
Ok. Thanks a lot

>>3502152
>I can only draw this pose
Lookup Croquis cafe on youtube and try to draw some of those poses, great way to break out of your comfort zone

>>3500728
Her legs are way too fucking big, unless that's some fetish shit you're trying

Werewolf demon WIP for my final exam, any critiques or any idea why it looks so dull and boring?

>>3501043
What pencil did you use for this? Did you sharpen it with a razor or something? I really like the line quality you have throughout.

>>3501345
Drawabox has a good lesson on animals, really helped me a lot

>>3501368
This is a brainlet post

>>3501512
Don't be so gullible, don't try to make everything perfect as a beginner, you can't, just learn the lessons and make sure you are making progress.

>>3502212
>any idea why it looks so dull and boring?
Probably because of this soft ass muddy looking light.

>>3501043
Winner

>>3502017
Thanks, yeah I had a hard time with them. I appreciate the encouragement, senpai. I will keep practicing.

>>3501483
The drawing takes up the minority of the photo, the photo is nearly useless

>>3502078
The lessons in Keys are important, it isn't always about fun. But if you are just doing this as a hobby then do whatever you want

>>3502236
How about there?

>>3502268
Better but still pretty muddy looking.

>>3502275
what do you mean by muddy looking?

>>3502268
It's better but the scene you have created looks dramatic enough that it would fit to have a very hard light source.

>>3502279
according to the storyboard, it has a full moon in the background

>>3502278
There is no areas of contrast or hard edges in value

>>3502281
Yes, define the forms in stronger terms. Also make sure that they follow the lines you have put down for them. If you don't have a form for a line you made, you should consider erasing it.

>>3502287
I'm sorry, could you show me an example?
>>3502288
I will try to apply that, thank you

>>3502289

I tried

>>3502308
http://vetyr.tumblr.com/post/158276127955/hi-i-love-your-art-in-particular-your-edges-are

>>3502308
Hey, much better. Obviously there are things you could polish but it doesn't look as out of place anymore. Compare this to the older iterations and notice how flat they seem.

saw some porn artist puts squiggly sketch lines to emphasise form and shadow so I tried it (referenced)

>>3502480
This was significantly harder for me than I thought it would be, I feel like I learned a few things from it though

>>3502078
grind what you want
it's not like you can't get a lot out of keys anyway just by reading it

am I making this cylinder correctly?
if not, can someone tell me how to fix it/how to do it correctly?

>>3502620
Yeah that's it for one point perspective. If you want a circle for a face, just draw squares instead of rectangles.

>>3502223
How do I know if I'm making progress? As of right now I made the guy and he looks like a god awful smug faggot. (The second attempt he looked like a god awful smug buff faggot) I know that I'm not suppose to be drawing him perfectly but how far off can I be?

>>3502635
you need to be able to copy a qt anime girl well enough to be able to fap to her, that's a standard for being "good enough" to move on
of course you can keep striving for more and more accuracy, but it's good to look into construction and gesture too, learn a bit of everything so you aren't confused when someone says to draw through your boxes

>>3502620
If your cylinder is supposed to be a little squashed then yes.

>>3502641
Alright thanks for the tips friend I will keep that in mind.
I have another question for the artist here.For how much time do you guys draw in a day? I know its good to practice a lot but with the job,house and other needs Its sometimes hard to fined a time for it or the motivation after a hard day of work. Not to mention the countless other distractions like video game,internet,TV ect.

>>3501674
Im this dood
>>3501685
Hey, thanks my friend :-)
>>3502480
Gave this a shot in between loomis doodles

any thoughts on this? i was experimenting with a vector like tool and words combined with an illustration but i dont know how to make it better

>>3501519
How about utilizing those gestures in an actual sketch?

How bad is this? And how could i improve it?

Are Imagine FX magazines worth the money? There are no book threads up, are they somewhere in the archives?

Trying to understand dark and light values for caricatures.

Sorry for last post could someone give me advice for quick caricatures.

Oh god I hate this iPad posting sorry...

are these okay?

I don't get it people tell me to draw the essence of what I see then they say draw exactly what I see then they say simplify it I don't know what to do.

>>3502868
>I don't know what to do.
Probably one of the two.

>>3502820
Will do that. But first I need to get myself together and think of something that would be actually fun to draw.

>>3502859
You seem to be drawing the contour of the figure.
Watch these to get a better idea of the concept:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y&t=215s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ktfwayByRU

>>3502045
B-but I like this pen-style-thing. What books or tutorials should I read/see to learn to use ink? Does framed ink cover that subject?

Thanks in advance.

Hi.What are your thoughts on this style?

It reads right to left.

WHen drawing with pen do you just ignore the values? I try getting all the values but it winds up looking really messy and not good.

>>3500704
does this look realistic or overly stylized?

>>3502891
okay
so like this?
sorry, I just want to make sure I get it down, so I don't waste anymore time

>>3502906
Stylized. Its not overly stylized.

>>3501674
you do much better than the stuff I did as a beginner! keep at it anon

>>3502908
If didn't know what the reference looked like I would have no idea what I'd be looking at when looking at your drawing.

>>3500838
move the thumb up the dick a little more

>>3502908
Pretty much. The whole idea is to capture the gesture with "S" "C" and "I" (straight) lines and to exaggerate it.
Also don't use 3D rendered models for this.
Go to:
>http://quickposes.com
And draw many of these. Remember not to rely on contour. The gesture should be capable of conveying the basic emotion/story of the pose.

Been trying to work on my colors since the colors I use in my art look dull as shit.
Any thoughts?

>>3502930
sorry
I was using https://youtu.be/lbaNSDWqrd0 for >>3502859

I just wanted to know if it was stiff, or was done improperly
>>3502934
alright thanks

>>3502935
The references colors look a tad warmer than yours.

I feel like I'm improving. Is the positioning of the ribcage correct? Anything I missed?

>>3502840
-measure more and more effectively.
-don't chickenscratch or at least clean up your line.
-simplify your line, don't try to do too much with one complex line. think in simple terms, angle and distance.

>>3502908
gesture is an area that comes with a degree of uncertainty I'm afraid. So I doubt very much that you'll get your one true answer.
You'll just have to keep your nose to the grindstone and periodically consult resources like vilppu, proko, bridgman.

Also can I get some input on values or is that too much to ask from /beg/ and am I wasting my time?

>>3502942
Is it the skirt, or the skin?

I don't see anything about Magazine art collage styles on this board, is there a good place to start with that? It's the only type of art that interests me

>>3502941
>sorry
I don't care about what the reference looks like. The point is you have to make it painfully obvious what the fuck we're looking at so we don't have to sort to the reference to encipher your shit.

>>3502949
I wasn't looking for accurate I was, only if the figures looked stiff
but I'll keep that in mind

>>3502945
you made her already flat head, look flatter.

>>3502951
it looks like you drew a stick figure getting slugged by a tiny floating canoe which isn't inaccurate but just plain wrong
throw away the timer and take your time with each gesture

>>3502951
I was not talking about accuracy. I was talking about clarity.

>>3502943
Get better reference.

>>3502948
>>>/gd/

>>3502952
Yes, thank you.
The drawing underneath, that was kept simple and unrefined and exists for the sole purpose of starting to practice value, is not perfect.
Thank you for your inspiring insight.

>>3500905
How does this look as an outline before I go over it with pen? Am I doing anything really bad?

>>3502988
Are you trying to make her black?

>>3502991
N-no?

>>3502992
Your drawing reminds me of this image.

>>3502998
I made her head to big then? FUCK

>>3500704
any tips on drawing landscapes?

Also, is there anyway to draw/paint trees from reference without having to resort to random strokes?

Fuck this thread this forum. Fucking useless. Nobody gives a fuck

>>3503018
trace over trees until you find a pattern that looks good, then emulate it
a bunch of trees from far away will required a different approach than one close up
keys to drawing has some examples of techniques you can use in the texture section

>>3503026
Lil' baby boy not getting help with his question that he should probably know on his own or is easy to find out. Those are the questions that usually go ignored so go work it out yourself.

>>3503026
hey.
dont freak.
no matter how shitty this site is, theres one thing it represents, and this board is a great example.
We're all gonna make it.
wether that means finding a gf, getting swole, or getting good at art, we all have the power within us.
noone replying to your posts? then keep drawing until your art is either so good they reply to say wow, or so bad they reply to help you.
just keep drawing.
just keep moving.
were all gonna make it, but we have to walk there first.

>>3503030
Uhm yeah this makes no sense. When people ask for feedback, its because they need another persons perspective, sometimes it can benifit the artist. Comments like yours are irrelivent to this thread. So go stick ur finger up your ass and gtfo this thread. Moron.

>>3502945
I think your values look nice, the only time they seem to deviate from the reference is where your measurements were a little off. Definitely on the right track, anon

>>3502988
Looks good overall, I'd take another look at her jaw and the tip of her nose if you still have time

>>3502699
Looks nice, anon. Keep up the good work

>>3502840
It's not too bad. When you do a portrait (or anything) try to feel the forms behind the face-- your shading should lend some three dimensionality to the head. For instance, we see that you made the effort to add form in a few places, but it wasn't super effective.

Something that I find really helpful when trying to feel the form of a portrait study is to use something that has a strong source of light from one (and only one) direction. Just keep working, and don't get discouraged!

>>3502906
I think it's stylized but qt

>>3502988
Alright well I tried. I definitely fucked the hair up and the eye too.

>>3503044
Thanks I was almost done when you made this post but I did change the chin at least.

>>3502903
I like the style because it reminds me of an 80s/90s black and white comic, like Mirage-era TMNT.

>>3503068
Good job, looks nice :) I like your ink work.

I'm struggling with the longer gesture sessions, I'm too fixated on finding the gesture faster and then when I'm hit with a 10 minute I end up re-going over things constantly.

>>3503073
Thanks anon I appreciate the compliment

>>3501410
Me again, slaughter me with more

>>3503155
sorry for the huge size, hopefully fixed it here:

Anyone have references for shin to feet construction?

What sort of resolution should my drawing canvas be?

my tablet only plays nice on 1280x720 screen resolution so I usually have quite a small canvas but I've heard people go massive to avoid pixels and shrink down? How big are we talking here?

>>3503165
I don't but she is QT

>>3503167
I usually do a 3000x3000 square but I am a digital noob so idk

>>3503184
3000x3000? Holy moly I usually have it on this

>>3503167
when working with digital
the bigger the better

Just fallowing the sticky
Observation exercise

I most confess I want to draw something else
Like copy cool stuff from frazetta just for fun, is that a good thing to do?

>>3503167
A sheet of printer paper is 2480X3508 at 300 PPI thats what I normally work at then scale it down. This works well for me but if I take a bluring brush above 200 size at this res it lags but my computer is shit so I wouldn't consider that a problem.

Can beginner artbooks and exercises like Keys to Drawing be done digitally with a pen and tablet ? Or should I start on paper before moving to the medium?

>>3503184
Thanks, but does aside from head construction/robobean and torso/hips I can't for the life of me do feet right. (pic related is my first attempt.)

>>3502868
if it's moving or looks like it's moving, get the essence down before you forget what it looks like (a way of thinking about gesture)
if it's a face, draw it exactly or else it's going to look ugly as hell. try to have the good sense not to copy blindly unless you want to be a human photocopier
if it's too crowded-looking (forest, flower field, rocks with a bunch of cracks), simplify
default approach is to block in the 2D shapes so you get the proportions down then construct with 3d shapes (boxes, cylinders, etc), but try to think more "keys to drawing" and less "slap on textures onto 3d forms it's that easy" so you're not a human 3d modeling program

>>3503208
I recommend tracing over his stuff and seeing what it would look like before you copy so you don't get too high of an expectation over what you can do with just contour lines. Otherwise, go for it, it'll build your copying skills, and maybe try to learn something from each copy about how he planned out his work.

>>3503184
>>3503191
Mine's 5000x5000 on SAI and 5000x5000 on PS and 8000x8000 on CSP, it's better to work high because:
>shitty linework is less obvious on downscaling
>resizing/other edits isn't obvious on downscaling
>zooming in an adding details is sharper, you may have noticed that getting thin lines or 1px brushes are shit, most artists downscale instead to get it
>what if you want to use the bigger image later or crop it without the resulting image size being miniscule
Sometimes I also widen the canvas or narrow it and find I have to paint in details later so it's better off to start with room for plenty of width
Use the max size you can handle without the program committing sudoku

>>3503228
if you don't care about your skill with traditional mediums, stick with the tablet

>>3503165
can't vouch for its accuracy

>>3503243
Well anon I didn’t express my self correctly

I mean by eye, using block in , looking for shapes lines, etc
I didn’t mean mindless copy. I will copy but I’m aware I’m not a machine, can’t do it exactly anyways.
Maybe the correct way to Calle it is masterstudy? Mastercopy? >
My weakness is observation, I never practiced this as I should , and can’t go further because of this.
I’m sure this is my nemesis and after this I’m gonna grow exponentially.

Your suggestion is good,

Good luck anon.

>>3503253
Where's the feet?

How do I learn composition?

>>3503258
Anon
In the website “New Masters Academy” vilppu teach composition by defragmentation.
Shows how rhythm is on the pic, lines shapes, play together in a pleasant way like music. Also color, later value.

New to pixel art and sprite making, so I am trying my hand at it.

I am happy this one actually looks like a cup of coffee, but how can I improve it?

It's 32x32 px, so it's extremely small, so I took a screencap. I will post my crappy hand in a minute.

>>3503275
Now, this is my hand.

>>3503263
The only one I found on cgpeers was the one where he looks at pictures and talks about them.

Didn't know he had a real one.

>>3503257
loomis's figure drawing book is probably better to reference, but kyle is known for being able to draw good feet

>>3503296
Thank you very much, only book I got from loomis was fun with pencils.

How do I know whether or not I have no talent and should give up?

>>3503314
If your hands look like >>3503277

im >>3498318
trying to train imagination drawing.
please advise

>>3503318
Some anon posted this recently, give it a look. It has 3 parts, I think.

https://www.sketchbook.com/blog/how-to-draw-from-imagination-why-is-it-so-hard/

>>3503234
Interesting so should I really look at the overall image first? Like on the face get the basic part right but for something like the hair just make a really good symbol drawing? Just have to figure out how to make good symbol drawings though.

>>3503330
see the picture in >>3500705 if you want to draw faces
you can take any approach you want and see what produces the best results. you can't draw from imagination if you don't construct, but you can't construct if you can't copy to some degree of accuracy, that degree depending on the subject matter

It’s a holly and I’m here drawing ;v
Everyone is burning fireworks

>>3503356
Fixed
I don’t know why it flips

my gf is having me paint this... and I obviously have a problem with texture. I'm using default oil paint brush on clip studio and I think that shits not helping me at all.

>>3503360
also she asked me to add that fucking dumb hair

: i painted the op image. Feels good man. Also working on this

When the fuck is freeleech going to end of cgpeers

>>3503360
rip in pieces

>>3503367
Now no one can tell you you're NGMI

>>3503372
But in my heart i still feel it

>>3503360
Trust me
The texture is not your problem anon

I know is stylish but I’m applying
Something I learn from frazetta
It’s shit i know, but if you have a better ideas tell me

>>3502699
it looks like a penis from the thumbnail.
Good work btw.

>>3503428
I think you're too much of a genetic freak for /beg/

>>3503444
It really puts a new spin on the whole dicks on faces thing

Hello. Well, this time I tried to make a somewhat 'realistic' drawing, because I stopped drawing for about two years and before that the only thing I really did was drawing horrible cartoon-like characters, which didn't really helped me to improve.

>>3503479
Way too elongated of a face. Practice drawing

>>3503503
God damn it you're right. Thank you.

>>3500905
i cant draw for shit

>>3503479
>>3503534
It makes it easier if you 'construct' your heads a bit and sort of block in the proportions before you start to go into the details

Can I get any help? I drew the gallows first and now Idk how to continue the composition.
Also, any tips on drawing a lot of people in the background?

>>3503544
Also, I can't use the same vanishing point on the base of the gallows, so I don't really know how to apply it in these cases

>>3503537
what about now?

>>3503555
yeah the proportions are looking better there, the brow should be a little higher I think though

>>3503567
okay anon this is the last time i draw this bitch, i'm already done with her

>>3503597
fuck forgot to flip the shit out her

>>3503601
now you have to adjust the eye a little for the brow, it's looking good though

>>3503165
so afraid to "polish a turd" but what do you guys think so far?

>>3503649
you polish that turd right now and draw me a waifu

>>3503650
Oof!

>>3503651
by that I mean it's not really a turd but I want to feel the feels hard, asap
>tfw no business lady gf

>>3503479
Remember that you can divide the face into thirds, that might help you from keeping the faces too long

>>3500905
thx4ref

>>3502713

This is really good. Nice job.

>>3502482
Very nice job.

>>3502087
Not him but what should i use to shade? I did my first shading yesterday with the airbrush tool but ended up deleting the layer because it was so amateurish.

>>3503759
Ah yes, thank you

I don't have any examples at the ready, but in terms of starting out on a tablet, I find I'm drawing a rough outline, making a new layer, re-drawing with more solid lines, and more detail, then repeating that process until I'm satisfied.

Is that par for the course, or am I gimping myself for future progress?