/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3500458
that painting is beautiful. great style

>>3500458
>Academic realism becomes stagnant
>a few movements like Symbolism and Aestheticism try to save art (and do a great job I think)
>photography goes big, and in reaction Primitivism and Impressionism happen
>a bunch of Bohemian tards go overboard and throw the realistic baby out with the bathwater
>the Western artistic tradition shatters into a million pieces
>art becomes less about Beauty, or skill, and more about 'statements'

Of course Van Gogh wasn't great, but his work happened to be in the right place at the right time. At least he wasn't as bad as Picasso

>>3500458
I know this is a bait thread, but that's a poor reproduction of the actual van gogh painting. This is the real painting.

>>3500519
This actually isn't a bait thread. I'm legitimately trying to learn why people think he was so great - and fill gaps in my own knowledge of art

>>3500519
Sorry but the pic looks like poor attempt at mimicking eastern art which is apparently worse then western art. There is no outline in the nature. You should paint and make lines visible by the difference of values.

>>3500531
I can't explain exactly why but looking at one of his paintings makes me feel something while looking at other pieces which may be photo realistic don't make me feel anything

>>3500458
He had blood relative art dealers.

>>3500458

I think around that time period, people usually drew what they saw and the intent of the artist didn't matter. Van Gogh was mentally unstable. He didn't become famous until after his death. It was then that people finally became interested in how he perceived his surroundings.

In short they are paintings of a mentally ill man.

Another example is Louis Wain. His art became surreal as he became more schizophrenic.

>>3500519
he has a good sense of color, and a lovely brush strokes technique. I don't get why you wouldn't qualify this as art just cause the author wasn't mentally stable. He still made these himself all alone

not sure.

it was hipster shit like anime art, it looks easy to make (but it isnt) so people related to it more, and so it became popular. Also probably cuz van gogh's death was an interesting story to sell alongside the painting. PS Van gogh only sold one painting when he was alive.

>>3500531
i have synesthesia. van goghs art sounds like liszt, it has an almost joyful quality to it that stands in contrast to him being such a sad fuck.

>Because his work, composition, and colors don't seem very great to me

i dont know what to tell you. other than you are wrong. van gogh may not be technically be following the rules of western art, but he is still obviously a genius.

>>3500995
> Van gogh only sold one painting when he was alive.
Not really.
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1998-10-25/features/1998298006_1_gogh-red-vineyard-painting

I like his painting of that flower tree that looks like made in japan by a japanese painter.

With art, most people like things because it's famous and other people like it, it's mostly about BRAND. Just look at the Mona Lisa, which is not an amazing painting either. Van Gogh, Picasso also are in the same category in my opinion.

>>3500548
It doesn't just look like that, that's literally what he did.

>>3500531
because photography.

The late 19th and entire 20th century has artists stressing dicks over technological advancements.

It's just going to get worse too. Soon we'll have AI making something in a few minutes that takes an artist a year.

>>3501008
i've always felt that way too, about his paintings being so happy. liszt is a good comparison, synesthesia aside.

>>3501096
>buy expensive tools, books and courses
>abandon all relationships and spend many years grinding
>you finally get good enough to live off your art
>google announces their new AI that can crank out a Sargent or a concept piece in a few seconds.
why even live?

>>3500490
you are literally endoctrinated and retarded to have posted this. Congrats, cattle.

>>3501333
>why even live?
because if you don't accept the google you get put on top by default

>>3501096
>>3501333
Feels good to be a hobbyist who draws for fun and not someone who dedicated years trying to get into the industry for some art career that will seize to exist in the near future

>>3501008
What does Monet sound like?

>>3501566
So are you going to refute his points, or just say "Wrong" like a child?

>>3500548
There are no rules in art, only principles and cause and effect.

>>3501566

I think you got it twisted, kiddo. Come back when you've lurked for two years.

>>3500458
>Beautiful Renaissance and 19th Century work
i doubt anyone likes these anymore without living through a history of child-abuse and social neglect.

>>3501636
So he'll blindly agree with the rest of /ic/'s shit taste? Sargent sucks, get a life

lol nice squiggly lines
I've literally seen windows desktop backgrounds that make me feel more than the average van gogh piece
he's the Hot Topic of artists, just accept that he was fashionable at one point and stop pretending he did anything legitimately interesting

>>3501731
That's the cringiest opinion on art I ever heard. You're literally incapable of looking at old art outside of your own little 2018 vacuum.

>>3501604
I'm sure what ever your job is now won't vanish in a decade.

>>3500458
I fucking hate this board so much

>>3501566
>endoctrinated
You're the retard, retard

>>3501847
HAHAHAHAH!!

>>3500458

>Beautiful Renaissance and 19th Century work

People were tired of looking at commissions of rich aristocrats and gym bunnies.

Van Gogh is 2gud4u.

While the paintings are strong on their own, it's the context provided by his letters (over 900) to his brother Theo and others, that solidified his work's high degree of art historical importance.

>>3501566
you are literally endoctrinated and retarded to have posted this. Congrats, cattle.

>>3501731
>now to go on /lit/ and tell those guys the _hard truth_ that shakespeare isn't very good and death note is better than hamlet

>>3501731
please throw away all your art supplies, unistall any software you got and never look at an art piece ever again.

thank you

>>3501566
>using edgy xbox player lingo in 2018

>>3500458
>Academic style is the prominent style
>Licked finishes, no brushstrokes, subtle color change
>Impressionism
>Brighter colors and "painting light"
>Post-impressionism
>"fuck it let them see the brushstrokes and use all these bright ass pigments fuck it all"
>so brave

I love Van Gogh's work, and I think Impressionism and Post-Impressionism was a pretty bold statement in a time where if you didn't paint in the academic style it was considered garbage. It was really a product of it's time and a reaction against the established style of art.

Of course this opened the doors to Postmodern "muh feelings is all that matters!!, r-real skill is stupid and the academics were hacks!" type shit. Thankfully it seems were moving past that, at least outside of art ""schools""

>>3500519
its good. just not superb

>>3500458
ive been there seen that painting . i like looking at it. i dont know why youre so confsed. wait yes i do i used to think like you . youre clearly a novice.

>>3503960
he was a portrait painter, his landscapes, still lifes, and nature studies we're supplementary. He just didn't have models for what he wanted to do, which was genre painting and larger scenes with multiple figures in landscapes.

>>3505821
what? lol

>>3500490
I've never heard someone so dismissive of cubism.

It's the thinking man's painting.

>>3500548
didn't reply to me, but you did help me with my own art issues by pointing something out like this. Thank you Anon