/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Think about it this way: fundamentals are like grammar, or learning how to write, story structure etc. It does not matter how good you know how to write if you have nothing to write about and nothing worth saying and nothing worth listening to.

>>3500833
So you think you're having a creative block? Is there anything that motivates you because you find it interesting? Other hobbies? Fiction? Draw porn?

Disappears? You cant know your fundies that well if you can't even use the technical info to draw what you wanna see anon
Ngmi

>>3500833
Perhaps the problem with me is I want to get it done to fast...how long on average would it take one person to draw a short comic to at least a passable level?

>>3500833
drawing from imagination is a different set of practice that you should also do

>>3500833

>>3500833
read books and draw what they depict

>>3500846
I'm a casual fag, I just spent 4 days (on and off, a few hours each) doing line art for a face. I just tell myself slow and steady and listen to some catchy music and it's all good.

Pretty comfy to sit at my desk and try to draw lips for 2 hours and know that I have all the time in the world to get it exactly right.

>falling for the fundies meme

Another bites the dust.

Maybe you can stop falling for the fundamentals meme and start doing actuall work, think in what you whant to do with art and start doing it.

>>3500833
draw what you want to draw and improve it as you go, practise works best targeted

>>3502798
>>3502861
Who started this meme and why?

>>3502872
Insecure intermediates, because they see art as zero-sum and do not want any competition.

Crabs, basically.

>>3500855
learn this from man
don't make his blunders

>>3502872
>>3502876
fundies are good, bu there's a plague of people on this board who do nothing but photo/perspective studies then don't understand why their imaginiaion work all sucks

>>3502881
>there's a plague of people on this board who do nothing but photo/perspective studies

There really aren’t. There’s a plague of people who claim that they do.

>>3502922
where is this plague of people claiming they do nothing but photo/perspective studies
why would they want to brag about such a thing

>>3502933
You are posting in a thread started by one.

>>3502872
Apparently, it's been a meme since as early as 1940s. People get caught up in the fundies meme, and never improve.

That's what you get for endlessly grinding fundamentals without applying them.
If you grind boxes all day, you will only be able to draw boxes.

Ask yourself this, what do you need to know to make your comic strip work?
If you can figure out the answer, you will become good.
But if you think grinding unappealing shit all day is going to be the secret key to success then you're wrong, it's only an excuse to trick yourself into thinking you're doing the right thing without actually doing what is needed, like getting out of your comfort zone.

>>3500833

You've spent a lot of time studying fundamentals, but you haven't spent enough time applying what you study in a creative way. If I were in your shoes, assuming you actually have a decent handle on fundamentals, I'd start drawing for the fun of it; focus less on technical accuracy, and more on finding out what you enjoy drawing, and figuring out what makes a drawing appealing. If you want to draw comics, your first 10 are probably going to be bad, BUT after that, your 11th will probably be better than your 1st was, it's all about just putting time and learning to practice with intent. You can grind fundamentals all day, but if you don't have a clear goal in mind, and you aren't using your knowledge to accomplish that goal, it's all useless.

>>3500833

Just draw
Just draw
Just draw
Just draw

Just listen to Feng Zhu and just draw.

All that matters is just drawing.

>>3500833
Just draw gay boxes

Just make up your own characters and draw them in cool pin ups.

>>3500833
Study real shit, go fuking outside,refresh tour mind with stuff then come back to drawing.

>>3502798
He failed with fundies because he/she dont know how to apply that teaching to another example.

>CS student
>study algos
>study discrete mathematics
>study electrical circuits
>go to write a program and mind goes blank.
literally the same fallacious learning in every field. you think as an artist you'd have caught on. but i guess op isn't one so everything here falls into place.

You thought grinding fundamentals would teach you how to draw a comic, that's dumb.

Comics require fundamentals, but crafting them is a whole new skill set

>>3502878
woah this is what a decade of studies are capable of!

>>3503140
What’s in that whole new skill set?

>>3503145
Well I never finished a comic so I don't know for sure.

But considering my few failed attempts of crafting a comic (mostly the story and sketches) it has a lot to do with creating a flow of the characters and the events in the story, learning how to make it all come together to create something that is not awkward for the viewer, using everything you can to achieve that (perspective and what it tells, the same goes for colors, lighting, the pose of the characters, the designs, etc)

But I always quit because it would take ages to tell just a little bit of the story

Those mangaka dudes are insane.

>>3503145
>What’s in that whole new skill set?
actually doing art.

>>3500833
One advice that helped me is that, remember to always take the time to draw something for yourself. Those books and fundamentals you're grinding are only there to help you take the drawings you have and make them better. Drawing for yourself is a way to exercise and apply everything you've learnt.

>>3500837
Yes

>>3503145
composition?

>>3503145
Learn how to tell stories, get into writers mindsets, read books, watch movies, etc