/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3481388
it's the amount of time he spends on each piece and his understanding of values, edges, and colour.

Looks like shit to me

>>3481416
Alright but what makes his understanding better than others? That's the whole point of my question, especially considering that there are people who draw longer than him and still can't render like that.

>>3481388
It's because he did a lot of studies from life. More than most digital artists tend to bother with.

He understands light, value and depth. And his edges are pretty unique for a digital artist.

>>3481426
alien interference in the womb gave him a more perceptive brain, I dunno

>>3481426
he has the spark

>>3481424

>>3481424
based

>>3481416
Wow, that thread ended as fast as it started...

>>3481426
here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPttA0i-6k&t=54s

Lowest quality jpeg compression + sharpen tool + waifu upscaler

>>3481424
(You)

>>3481493
compression hardly does anything, plus that sharpen shit only encompasses 0.0005% of the painting lmao

>>3481493
o gosh that scared me O.O

Pic related? Is that supposed to be a marionette or something like that?

>>3481388
My theory is that he uses tools that put down a lot of detail with minimal strokes, and renders from there

>>3481388
>what makes someone who is highly skilled, highly skilled? Their high level of skill seems hard for me, an unskilled person to understand.
Ya think?

>>3481426
it's something that can't be learned, it's how own unique perception. It's just natural to him and the small percentage of top tier chinks.

>>3481594
>chink drawing magic

>>3481594
is that what talent is?

>>3481493
>sharpen tool
what and how?

i will be famous like ruan

>>3481493

Why boner, why?

>>3482153
looks more like hgjart, hes the one that abuses that sharpness

but meme as much as you want, wont get you any closer to them.

>>3482233
I'm pretty sure by this time next year I'll be roughly in the same neighborhood as hgjart and RJ.

>>3482392
moving to China, are you?

>>3482396
In the skill department, I believe so.

I've measured my progress from the last year to now, and it's absolutely possible. The main determining factor is how strictly I push myself to study.

>>3482398
take pics pls

>>3482398
>>3482392
You sound like you are deep in your dunning kruger phase. let me guess, you don't ever finish images and you never post your work online, right?

>>3482398
yeah, and this time next year I’ll shit out pro tier art out of my ass faggot

post work or GTFO

>>3482439
I'm not really in any dunning kruger phase. I've always disliked my work because I envision it being so much better than it ever actually is. That part hasn't changed, and probably still won't next year. And I pretty much always post my work when people ask me to.

>>3482442
No need to be a raging cunt, just ask nicely the first time.

>>3482456
youre not even close bucko. you cant even get the values accurate enough. theres already tons of his students that are extremely closer to him than than you

>>3482466
It's not so much about how good I am now as it is the rate at which I'm improving.

What are YOU noticing about my values that seems inaccurate, though?

>>3482479
you have almost the entire armor going from some white to black. theres just no indication of subtle light. everything is harsh. for something that is a WIP you have put too much work on it already. values should come first when youre presenting this.

>>3482481
That's it?

>>3482497
is the one on the left suppose to be the fix? then god no. washing them with white is not what i meant about subtlety. they both still have this harsh lighting youre really just abusing this cute little rendering method. you need to use a soft brush and get better values(u can see that in some of RJ videos).

its like youre just started from one value and working your way to the next when youre not thinking about the rest. RJ has these areas where its just really that one value on just one area, even when he tries to work to another value its not smoothed out, its like chucks of value if you see on pic related.

>>3482466
why post the pic on right?

>>3482517
not that anon, but you mean the contrast of the very light and very dark areas, aka the gradation?

>>3482517
No, the one on the right is the quickfix. The one on the left is your image copy & pasted into my Photoshop and cropped next to my edit, completely unchanged. We must have different gamma settings in our applications, or something.

>>3482497
>>3482517
youre probably trying to do something like pic related. but you quite frankly dont have the mileage to do that.

>>3482497
Just keep rendering the termination points of the armor dude.

>>3482456

This is Dunning-Kruger: the post. You're still so much of a noob that you think painting a suit of armor in a neutral pose with no background = Ruan Jia level, because you use the same brushes and smudge the edges a bit. Disliking your work doesn't mean you're not in DK territory. You're at least 10 years from being at Ruan Jia's level if you work hard every day.

>>3482524
the one on the right is a bit better when it get darker towards the legs, but you ignored the top where it feels unaffected by light. you sort of just have this blob of grey and the reflection doesnt make much sense especially from where the light is hitting

>>3482517
I'm going to give this one a go.

>>3482530

not trying to be mean btw. you're not bad. but thinking you're better than you are is death to an artist, to paraphrase CM

>>3481424
That's because you're the color of shit so everything you see reminds you of your own inadequacies. Like all blacks you have a chip on your shoulder especially when it comes to whites who compete well against you in a sport, hobby, job, etc.

Your entire life is dictated by it because all of you are under educated and lash out when your proven to be stupid or unskilled.

>>3482530
I never said I thought that my knight painting that is still quite obviously unfinished = current Ruan Jia. I said that by this time next year, I'd be in "roughly" the same neighborhood. 10 years is a long ass time.

>>3482531
All I did was add a gradient over the image and changed the blend mode to overlay. Which, to be fair, solved exactly the problem you voiced concern with.

Please feel free to give me a quick overpaint(nothing too detailed) to better show me where the speculars should be and what the overall value balance should look like. I don't mean to be a dick, but "it just doesn't look right" isn't particularly constructive or helpful. I'm not sure if you're saying the speculars are radically off, or if you're nitpicking because they're slightly off. Same with the values.

>>3482553
Hey anon can I ask what brush you're using to get that texture?

>>3482553
im not going to paint over it because its already a wreck of values. you clearly have no idea how light works and thats all im saying. youre basically doing high level pillowshading

>>3482553
any by anything, your rendering method looks exactly like the other faggot rj wanabe.

>>3481388
>good
its not
Jia has rendering of average gook. Pic related is not Ruan Jia yet it simular because all gooks render like that, with a color palette of gasoline.

>>3482569
That image isn't similar even to his older rendering method lol

>>3482553
Not that anon. I think you're not even aware how far you're away from that chink top tier level. My advice for you is to be realistic, both feet on the ground, and openly accept that you still suck.

If you can't improve and fix this pic related beg tier ruan copycat, then things might become a bit clearer to you. Or they just won't, since you seem to have an ego issue above anything else.

>>3482569
bruh u do realize he taught him and literally the entire lot that resembles his work

>>3482573
>>3482575
>gookdrones defending this

>>3482580
its all over his weibo you fucking brainlet

>>3482580

>>3482586

>>3482580
OK!

>>3482588

>>3482595

>>3482586
>>3482588
>>3482595
>>3482596
Just send him to rjartschool.com

>>3482608
that shits slow tho, the images here would load quicker

>>3482596
>>3482595
>>3482588
>>3482586
What I wouldn't do for at least an ounce of this skill

>>3482585
>>3482586
>>3482588
>>3482595
>>3482596
Jesus, you really are gookdrone, keeping this pics on your pc.

>>3482620
no i literally just now went on his fucking page and downloaded them just for you.

I want to know the secrets of Ruan Jia, it's not fair bros

>>3482636
>ask asian parents what they think of Ruan Jia
>they've never heard of Ruan Jia
>they think that actually good artists who've made it would not do stupid shit like illustrate video games and other things

>>3482638
It's all about the technique, I don't care what he does for living.

>>3481491
> 480p

>>3482574
I don't have an ego problem, I assure you. I've been studying Ruan Jia for a long time now, I know where I currently fall short.

There's really no magic to any of this. Just do still lifes to develop the fundamentals, and draw a lot while using your brain. I comprehend and remember really fast. That's not me being arrogant. I just know what I'm capable of, and I don't think there's anything criminal about that.

I've never really applied myself. I don't paint even close to daily, I don't usually copy references, I don't study too intensely, and yet the rate at which I'm improving in the areas I actually focus on is not just a bit fast, it's accelerating, rather than plateau-ing. If I painted every day and tried harder, it stands to reason I'd improve even faster.

I realize I probably sound like an asshole right now, but just keep tabs on me for the next year. You guys might actually be surprised. Wouldn't that be an encouraging accomplishment here on ic?

>>3482650
Apparently there are some super crazy artists there.

>>3482666
What is the role of still lifes in improving fundamentals exactly? I really don't know what to look for.

>>3482666
>tfw I will never get your blog
;_; I really want to know senpai...

>>3481566
And what makes his art, his style, his rendering considered so good or better than other professional artists? Is it his palette? His perspective? Subjects?

>>3481388
Getting spoonfed isn't got, but the secret to ruan jia's rendering is to not start with rendering. He does a lot of blocking with hard edge brushes before he starts blending. Some of those fine detail lines are just a one pixel brush that he then blended over.

>>3482666
>I don't have an ego problem, I assure you. I've been studying Ruan Jia for a long time now

So did a couple of us, quite extensively. Especially for this reason it would be more beneficial for you to be a bit more open minded and actually listen to those who are ahead of you.

>Wouldn't that be an encouraging accomplishment here on ic?

Again, you're making too big of a deal out of yourself Kanye. Stay humble and practice diligently.

>>3482666
god damn dude you need to get off ic and work on your art for a while. this shit is so fuckin cringe.
if the art you posted is exponentially improved from your previous stuff like you've said, then your previous stuff must be shit tier.

comparing yourself to ruan in any capacity is just embarrasing. christ.

Its amazing because the smoothness of it makes it look airbrushed, but its actually made up of thousands of tiny brush strokes, all alternating colors. When zoomed into his work, you can see how specled and random it is and how he doesn't actually go in and define everything as mcuh as you think.

If you are having trouble rendering using a digital medium, I highly recommend you pick up a traditional medium on the side. There are a lot of books and videos in traditional mediums that will help you greatly. You can apply it to your digital art.

I personally like colored pencil. The Colored Pencil Painting Bible and Colored Pencil Painting Portraits by Alyona Nickelse art fantastic for learning about rendering different surfaces.

>>3482666
If there's one thing I've learned about /ic/ in the years I've been here it's that most of them have absolutely no eye for potential. Most still can't even tell the difference between a beginner's sketch and an advanced artist's sketch until the advanced artist has finished it and even then they'll still try to call it beginner tier to protect their own ego.
Don't listen to these guys saying you're nowhere near Ruan's level. From what I see I do believe you will be able to make comparable images in a year if you apply yourself. I would need to see more drawings of different things from you to truly assess but so far your drawing, perspective, rendering, and lighting look solid enough to build that far in not long and there are even some things I like more about your picture than Ruan's work frankly. Godspeed anon, remember at least one person believes in you.

>>3483043
okay i dont know if youre samefagging but i know what you mean about the brainlets on /ic/ who cant differentiate the sketch of a beg from the sketch of a pro

however, this guys art lacks foundations in anatomy and perspective and form. he can render metal almost at an intermediate level (though in some areas the light source is inconsistent), but the form is only a bit above beg. imo he needs to work on his 3 dimensionality, weight, mass before continuing to grind rendering. the perspective is off in areas, the form lacks mass in areas, the only really successful area on it in my opinion is the right shoulder/pauldron. he needs to work from reference more

>>3483057
I'm not samefagging, just sharing my opinion. You can say whatever you want about what he lacks. I know there are things that are lacking, that's why I said he'd have to apply himself over the year. I still say he's got enough of a foundation to close the gap before long. Again, I would want to see more drawings of a variety of things to really be certain, but if I have to base it on that one drawing a year is totally believable to me. Drawing has a backwards learning curve. It's very slow and hard in the beginning but the more knowledge and mileage you build the easier it becomes to pick up more advanced things. I see work that is solid enough for me to believe he's at a point where he could pick up what he needs to know very quickly.

This doesn't look jarring to anyone else?

>>3481388
because he's an insectoid? To manifest his true self, hence the tries he made to make what he thinks as the ideal him as a human.

>>3482456
Do you have any more work you could post? I don't know anything about painting atm, so all I know is that it looks pretty nice and solid and I'm curious to see more of it.

>>3482456
Post more work, I like it.

>>3482456
this shit would look 20x better if it was on a midtone gray background

black background looks like shit and looks even worse when you have such a clear lightsource

>>3482456
gaye

Does anyone know whether ruanjia uses monitor tablet or a screen-less graphics tablet?

>>3482479
Yeah of course it seems easy at first, because you are learning the very fundamentals of rendering, and a fucking armor suit is probably the first go-to object to render when you start practicing. Can you guess why that is? Forms are simple af, and you also left out the environment completely so you dont have to worry about different light sources etc. I'm not saying your picture is badly done, I think it's not, but it is a fucking desillusioned, brainlet and narcisstic thing to think you'll be better than someone who's been practicing for years, hours a day in a short period of time. It's like a beginner who just learned to render a cube and baffled about how realistic it looks, so he thinks he must be a god now. You are just starting putting fundamentals into practice and of course you are making great progress at the time, but come of your high horses. This is not special, it's only normal. The hard part is putting it all together and making use of it for one's artwork.

>>3483786
theres at least one video on youtube where he recorded drawing with a webcam and the way hes drawing (while looking down and every so often looks up) suggests he uses a screen tablet and also has a secondary monitor

>>3482959
>So did a couple of us, quite extensively. Especially for this reason it would be more beneficial for you to be a bit more open minded and actually listen to those who are ahead of you.
Look, in all sincerity, I am quite open to criticism. And I'm very, very open to learning new things. It's just that, here on ic, it's really easy to bullshit someone and make it sound like you're an authority. People here are negative for no real reason. I'm open-minded, but my bullshit detector is always running. When someone talks to me like I just picked up a pencil yesterday, I'm going to assume they're either being super critical towards me to make me feel like a piece of shit for no reason other than to maintain ic's reputation of being abrasively critical of literally anything ever done by anyone, or a beginner that legitimately doesn't understand what they're talking about.

Calling me Kanye is totally uncalled for. I never claimed to be a living god, I never put anyone else's art below my own, I never said I thought I was good at painting. I just have a goal in mind, and I think I can meet that goal if I do my best. Never put myself above anyone else. I'm skeptical of critcism on here, not because I can't handle people not kissing my ass and telling me I'm amazing, but because there are a lot of people who will just tell me my art literally looks like I picked up painting yesterday, and that's bullshit. I'm not full of myself, but I don't take shit from people who are intentionally acting like douchebags. I try to maintain a balance, and I'm sincerely sorry if that came across as me being self-centered.

>>3483811
>I never put anyone else's art below my own
> Never put myself above anyone else

You don't have many friends do you? You just put yourself above half of /ic/ with saying you will achieve that goal in a short amount of time. Your pic says nothing about your skill/intelligence because you are just starting to put fundamentals into practice. You are insulting everyone who is practicing for years, because most of them are not on RJ level nevertheless.

>>3483817
Your argument is a logical fallacy.

Saying that I think I can do something doesn't therefor state that you guys can't do it as well or even better. Therefor, no, I haven't put anyone else below myself. Blow me in the dust, guys. Illustrate to me how inexperienced I am. I don't care. It's not a contest.

>everytime I try to get a good artist's blog all these retarded autistic crabs who never even post their work pop up thus ruining my chances of seeing the rest of their work

>>3483232
You are not alone, as that shit popped out at me too. I'm nowhere nearly as good, but this really seems out of place for sure.

This is my blog, for the guys who were genuinely interested. Sorry it took so long, I just don't really have much work to show and I usually don't take it seriously when people ask for my blog since people sometimes do it to meme.

https://akirelll.deviantart.com/

>>3483877
ohh are you that namefag aki?

youre not as good as you think but you have potential so stop farting around here and grind

>>3483877
Cheers mate

Here's the start of a background for all the anons who thought the black background was uglier than sin. Still wip.

>>3483877
>>3484163

hey I saw your deviant knight somewhere, and I was one of the guys who criticized you above, The critique still stays, you're a decent artist and I think you can learn much more, but work on your ego (even though you might think that everyone is trolling you). You really come off as that typical beg high-nose guy who thinks of everyone else as unworthy peasants, and you yourself might be completely oblivious to it. It will also ensure you a smooth interaction between clients and holding new contacts.

As for your current work, if you'll allow me:

What's immediately apparent from the thumbnail, the posture or rather placement of the figure, is tilted too much forward. The legs are fine, but the torso and head need to go back right (either liquify or cut/paste), this will also improve on the composition.

I've painted quite a lot of armor, remove the black edge at the knight's back, shoulder plate, cape, foot, instead apply fresnel to the far edge of the metal and let it smooth in into the background. Metal is typical that it features the darkest parts right next to highlights, so that pure black edge has nothing to do there, but if you want you can spice up those terminators up a bit.
The metal?guard around his/her neck seems more like skin, try to give a clear distinction between forms, throw in some edges to make it seem layered.
And another thing I'd recommend, and this is really just personal preference, I dislike lifeless colors and the lack of temperature, give it a clear distinction of planes with some warm colors from beneath. cheers

ruan jia is incredibly skilled but his designs are so generic it's painful

>>3483877
After seeing a little more I stand by my assessment. In a year you could definitely produce images right around Ruan's level.
It sounds like you already have a plan but just from an outsider perspective there are 3 things I would like to see you work on.
Your structure is a little wonky. Not much but enough to detract in my opinion. I'd suggest doing a lot of exercises on geometric form and geometric shapes in perspective and different angles.
Study color theory and do exercises with that on simple shapes.
Lastly, your figures are lacking gesture and look stiff. They're not as stiff as I consider Ruan's work to be which is the thing I like more about your work. This is totally subjective on my part but I would really like to see you be able to do the rendering style on lively looking things, so I hope you'll work on gesture even though it's not totally necessary for mimicking Ruan.
Good luck dude, I hope we see great things from you.

>>3481424
Right, you have to wipe the shit from your eyes then look.

>>3484535
>In a year you could definitely produce images right around Ruan's level.

just no lol

>>3482553
I mean, in the end though, Ruan's rendering is impressive but his sense of design and how he stylizes is also a major part of his work and what makes people remember it. I'm not saying he's an untouched prodigy when it comes to the ideas in his stuff, but they're almost always done tastefully and he's able to make something as common as an angry dragon look cool. His idea of 'a guy in a suit of armor' isn't literally /only/ a guy in a suit of plain gray armor.

>>3485730
What do you think I could do to improve the taste of my particular painting?

To be completely honest, I wasn't thinking about making it cool as a design so much as I just wanted to repaint an old painting and make it look more technical. But now it's no longer the same painting after so many changes. So I'm up for anything that could be considered a good change. I'm getting close to the point where I don't think I can improve this any more until I get better. So ideas are welcome if you guys have changes you'd like to see implemented.

>>3482517
>>3482497
wow, 4chan users critics are really hsit.

You're doing great, you can definitely get to that point. Maybe you should study color mixing and paint with mixed media.

Jia paint stuff with a really small brush, and I think he emulates Structural Coloration to create his colors. I'm playing with it, trying to use the colors of a CD layer or a bird plume.

>>3486474
Keep in mind, guys. This is the level it was at when I first asked for a critique.

>>3486474
I don't understand your proportions your character looks like a beanpole. added mass with liquify to give you an idea of what I mean + added weight by changing the feet/calf orientation

>>3486393
Well no one can tell you what looks cool as a design to you besides you. Also, it's probably easier to just start fresh with a new piece and character/concept if the base design is going to be changed a lot.

You could combine your rendering skills with influences from other artists you think are inspiring designers (even if they work in a completely different medium or don't render that much) and collect it in a folder. You can also look at completely different fields like fashion photography.

As an example, Ruan Jia has mentioned being influenced by Yoshitaka Amano (which is especially obvious in his earlier stuff), but Amano is known for his surreal sense of design, not being a render-god. Famous illustrators like Leyendecker were loved so much because they put a lot of thought into design along with their rendering style to make their stuff more interesting.

Digital art is a meme

>bump up the saturation on muddy piece so nasty artifacts start coming out
>weebs drool over how great your values are

>>3486663
did you paint that when you were 10?

>>3486678
I paint what women like

>>3486675
whats wrong with his values? or are you just using words you don't know the meaning of

>>3486700
Nothing's wrong with his values, i just hate that people only notice because his colours are shit and only come from messing with sliders until it looks, that's why its all covered in artifacts, looks like someone tried to make one of those deep fried memes.
His work looks 2000% better in grayscale.

>>3486728
sliders? those are not filters, theyre brush strokes. youre talking out of your ass

>>3486728
Obtain better eyes

>>3486663
>>3486685
Brian you are so unbelievably insecure. It would be funny if it wasn't so disgusting.

>>3481388
Stop spamming ads please.

>>3486474
like I mentioned, push those terminators a bit darker (just not with gray), it's on the edge of being too muddy.

In the next pic, please put a light-source arrow on it so that we can have a clear idea how you've wanted it to be portrayed. On the first glance it lacks a clear distinction between light and dark planes.

>>3481388
Is not his "rendering" which is good it's how he renders materials, which is a subtle distinction I'll grant you.

>>3487161
Ruanjia has no product to sell you, he doesn't even have a patreon or anything else to monetize internet fame, you paranoid fucking dweeb.

>>3487290
Autism

>>3487290
He renders everything 99% the same. Only small differences here and there change, not enough to matter to any normal person. It's mostly the direction the texture runs. In OP's image the metal, hair and skin are all painted the same way with the same "ten thousand little strokes" style. Only the way the highlights are painted differ. (even then not by much)

It's clearly the level of render that make IC autists cream over his work. No regular person knows who RJ is or cares. He's not produced any product that normies know him from. Technical prowess is pointless if what you make is boring to regular people. OP's image is one of his more shared images, most of the other crap is even more forgettable.

>>3487343
I can't talk for all of ic. but to me regular people don't really matter. Achiving succes or being recognized doesn't matter either. Being on the top of your craft matters to me at least.

Ruan jia is liked by ic because he mastered at least one skill. rendering and values.
Is he lacking in other area. yes he is, but it's still facinating to look at his paintings because of that 2 skills.

You not liking it doesn't change the fact he is really good at what he does.

>>3487343
literally neck yourself

>>3487367
It's just not enough to be good at one thing though. Art mastery encompasses so much more than slick imagery. It's why Sargent and Bougereau aren't put in the same tier as artists like Degas and Gauguin. Sargent couldn't sculpt, he couldn't vary his style, he didn't evolve over the course of his career. He has talent, which is fine, but it's nothing more than that. A talent.

>>3487492
You need to start growing up and stop living for the nonexistent expectations of other people. You have no obligations to anyone but yourself with your art, and the people who pay you for it of course. That inherent lack of honesty and passion you have for art is why both Bouguereau and Sargent are worldwide reknown master painters whereis you will never amount to anything.

>>3487519
>That inherent lack of honesty and passion you have for art is why both Bouguereau and Sargent are worldwide reknown master painters whereis you will never amount to anything.
>after death

>>3487532
well, in life they also were highly acclaimed artists and masterful draftsmen who made a very respectable living being commissioned by nobles and high ranking politicians. Plus Sargent travelled all around the world, was eager to learn impressionist painting philosophy and its techniques, experimented a lot with watercolor and painted lots of different cultures and customs etc. During any period of his life and death, he was through and through a more accomplished artist than you will ever be.

>>3487582
Simply not true. Give me three hours and I'll paint something better than the entirety of what Sargent did in his career

>>3487606
I can't wait to see this.

>>3487738
here you go :)

>>3487821
Lacks edge variety, to say the least. One of Sargent's many strengths.

>>3487821
the amount of paintings you've done using this approach has probably done more harm than good.

>>3487895
Go fuck yourself

>>3487914
Also go fuck yourself

>>3486675

bump up saturation on any art piece it will look like shit. What the fuck is your point?

>>3482671

what do you want to learn from it? Color? Values? How light works on certain form and texture?

Figure it out and focus on it.

>>3487928
Well I don't know much so pretty much everything

>>3487821
I fucking knew it was you, you insecure little try-harding manchild. I fucking knew it. Jesus everything about you is so pointless. It's not even entertaining anymore.

>>3486736
so he covers everything in smudges of puke yellow on purpose now? fuck off

>>3488097
Salty crab served hot

>>3488032
I'm going to have you killed if you don't change so better start painting

>>3487916
Madcuzbad

so many crabs

>>3481424
Then you can post your work
If anyone can do the same thing better I'd like to know. (besides that other chink we already know)

>>3488677
Spoiler alert.

Illastrat is a beginner. We've seen his art. It sucks. He sucks as a human being, too.

>>3487821
>>3487606
Is this ironic shitposting or an attempt at self-depricating humor or do people with this bad a case of dunning kruger genuinely exist?

>>3488690
With Brian I'd say it's all three simultaneously.

>>3486474
will he ever update?

>>3481594
Whenever you feel like making this excuse, just ask yourself: "did this artist always had this particular hability, or looking at his old work seems to indicate that he adquired this along the way?"

If it were "natural born talent" then he would always have had it. This not the case neither with Ruan Jia nor with most top tier painters.

>>3482585
>>3482586

Love this stuff. Really puts things into perspective.
Grounds you a lot about how much work you still need to do. And how much a lot of the things you did't think about really impact the painting.

>>3489125
I'm giving it a break and doing some perspective and form studies in the meantime so I can come back to it and breathe some new life into it.

Or I'll just come back to it in 6 months and repaint it from scratch like I tend to do.

>>3489789
your anatomy is broken;

>>3489789
Clear example of rendering that cannot alleviate basic drawing problems.

>>3489800
>>3489796
lol, spent 30mins on painting over just to show basic rendering. I only liquified the helm. You missed the point.

>>3489806

>>3481388

Does this guy have any artbooks out?

>>3489806
>>3489789

You are good. Better than me actually, but your ego is so damn inflated that you will never archieve what you are trying to do.
The only thing that I can say that you are close to Ruan Jia is the thematic, but like other anons had said your anatomy is very wonky for pointing out some things that you lack.

>>3489789
I'm humbled. It looks nice, for what it's supposed to be.

And I'll also work on improving the drawing aspect of my paintings next time too.

>>3489831
The guy you're responding to isn't me. (I'm Akirel)

Should I go back to namefagging so you guys can keep tabs on me and to keep the confusion aspect to a minimum? I mean, at worst I ruin what little reputation I have by having talked big and achieved nothing in a year.

You guys are so confused XD
Im the guy who just painted over. I didn't do it to critique this guy's work or to fix his anatomy issues. I did it for the reason that most of you can't stop talking about anyone being able to reproduce anything that looks remotely close to him. I don't want to / have time to do a full blown painting, especially over someone's elses figure. I am also amazed how you can't differentiate on your own that its not the same person who painted it. Means you have the perception of a potato because you don't really paint.
I just want to point out that hating or obsessing over Ruan Jia is the dumbest shit I have seen yet on ic. Study him if you like his rendering. But why be a dude who paints exactly the same like him? Or why be someone who complains about him when you yourself are very irrelevant? Just steal some of his techniques if you like his work and apply it to your own, dont fucking full out copy him. China is full of his copies because china views copying as a form of admiration, study and passing success over. Everybody is ripping off each others techniques. How hard is it to understand that anime shit sells in Asia. His anatomy is whatever because he spends all his time just painting similar or very static things, landscapes rocks and shit. Point is: he gets the $$$$$$$$. Trying to find super deep meaning in his work.. You'll only find passion for painting but nothing else complex. The subject matter doesn't seem to interest him too much. He just wants to show off his painting skills. Ranting all the time about his anatomy makes you sound like somebody who hasn't touched the pen or pencil regularly in a long time. If this applies to you then maybe you just have no drive, no desires? maybe you are a crab.. who knows?
Then again I am retarded as well. I wonder what is the point of posting about art on an anonymous board anyway..

>>3489877
no idea who of you is who, nor do I want to read anything past the first sentence (no offense). This is more of an analysis for the artist of the original knight, so he can have an idea on what to avoid

First thing that pops up, the image got enlarged and possibly condensed again, to mimic the gritty 1px detail pop that jia would have. Only that it's not done this way, nor are the options correct. It actually worsened it and really washed it out, like you're looking at the painting through a foggy window.

The light side and dark side are almost in identical value range, and the terminator doesn't do enough of an separation. Basically the midtones and ambient light are the same here, even for diffused light that's something you should clearly avoid.

The armor rendering looks really muddy all of a sudden, probably smudge, like it has no consistency or solid form, something the original artists did much better imo.

Also some warm lights inside the shoulder plate nooks would make it more appealing.

It's clearly a difference in styles and preferences, but the lack of some fundamentals is visible in both of your guys's approaches.

>>3489789
yikes what are values?

>>3489877
dude, you're talking like you did something great with the painting. You didn't.

>>3490041
Original artist here.

Thanks for the analysis, even if it wasn't directed at my version of the knight as much.

I'd like to give you guys a bit of insight into what my inspirations and goals are, beyond just "I wanna paint like Ruan Jia".

First and foremost, I'm inspired by RJ's Legend of the Cryptid works and other works of that era. After the super smooth stuff he originally did, but before he started doing the scratchy texture thing of recent. As for design inspiration, I'm really inspired by Berserk and Dungeons & Dragons esque designs. I'd like to paint all kinds of stuff like that, but do it in an interesting way.

I realize I'm not very interesting now, but I want to focus on my technical abilities before I try to improve my creativity. I want to be grounded, since creativity and artistic expression are kind of nebulous in my opinion.

I won't be copying RJ forever. I'm still trying to get more out of what I like about his work. I'm sure my style will shift more after I get a little bit better. I hope.

>>3490222
>wants to be technical
>uses the same garbage chalk brush(picrelated)
how about you learn how to use your shit first

>>3490235
That's only one of the brushes I like to use. I prefer a little bit of variety. I can do everything with one brush, but it's going to look more digital.

>>3490256
yeah fucking stop 3 of those have the same dual brush texture and the other one is just shit

>>3490256
you are basically using a variety of dry brushes, which makes everything look a bit stale and uninteresting. Stick to one or two. Also one of the things you should really avoid, is to put texture and contrast in places where it's not supposed to be, and by using only dry texture brushes you'll get that effect quite often. Throw in a good soft brush to give some planes (and depending on material) more of a smooth wetness. It will make plane separation also much more effective.

>>3490256

>>3490307
I learned that Zhaoming Wu likes to balance a painting with texture in the light areas and more vivid color in the shadows.

I would like to adopt that in my own work. I just need to pull my head out of my ass.

I know my work doesn't have a texture/smoothness harmony, and my colors are terribly muddy. Just stuff I gotta work on.

>>3490309
Does anyone have these brushes? I assume they're for Photoshop.

This thread really sums up /ic/ perfectly. People in denial about their skills, shitposting crabs that can't handle others being better, blind worshipping of RJ coupled with crabbing about him, blatant general shitposting and so on.

Fucks sake guys, imagine how much time you could've spent drawing/painting instead of making this thread.