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What's with all the sakimi copycats.. Is this style really that successful?

>> No.3474120
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>>3474119
forgot pic related.

>> No.3474121

>>3474119
semireal anime has been in for a while now, dawg

>> No.3474122

>>3474119
yes. the kids love it. its good money actually.

>> No.3474125

>>3474119
What's with the lighting?

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>>3474129
EA is amazing, what's your point?

>> No.3474142

>>3474129
Not sure what you're trying to show with this. Artstation is a fairly niche site where a certain type of concept art styles and subject matters tend to be the most popular. Sakimichan has 39 million pageviews and half a million watchers on Deviantart.

>> No.3474143

>>3474141
i was actually implying evens work is pretty shitty compared to my sweet sakimi. nobody copies even because his work is boring as hell, shitty style, shit subjects and messy brush work. sakimi has appealing subjects and clean brush strokes. hell even ruan jia has better subjects than even. thats why you have so many copying him.

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>>3474142
>Artstation is a fairly niche site where a certain type of concept art styles

then why isnt ruan the most viewed?

>> No.3474169

>>3474141
Dear God I have no idea how he even did that, but I hereby swear to embark on the path of painting
Fuck look at that controlled chaos of color and texture on her jaw, how inspiring is that

>> No.3474170
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>>3474129
>sakimichan
>conceptartist

>> No.3474172

>>3474170
hasn't concept art become the new term for "draws video game related shit" now anyways

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>>3474143

>> No.3474175

>>3474119
it's easily replicable, i suppose

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>>3474170
>>3474172
love newfags. sakimis old work was concept art

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>>3474177
>actually thinks this is concept art

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>>3474183
calm down there fzd, take your photobashing els where.

>> No.3474205

>>3474149
What? What kind of dumb argument is that? I'm just explaining to you that a site where the most popular artists have around 50k followes is fairly niche compared to a site where the most popular artist (Sakimichan) has literally ten times as many followers.

>> No.3474211

>>3474119
Are you retarded or something? Why do you ask stupid questions?

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>>3474119

>> No.3474220

>>3474205
no, the only difference those two sites have is that artstation has filtered out all of the cancer. deviant is infested and in most cases the people that actually follow and like your art on artstation are actually artists.

>> No.3474253

>>3474220
What do you mean "no" you fucking moron? Sakimichan has half a million watchers on DA and 39 million page views. The most popular artists you seem to be able to find on Artstation have around 30-45k followers according to your examples. What is your fucking argument here? What are we discussing here?

>> No.3474280

>>3474253
what part of deviant being infested did you not understand? 80% of deviants members dont even draw. and sakimi is older than dirt on there just like yuumei

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>>3474177
>>3474211
get a load of this fag

>> No.3474303

>>3474212
so being a copycat still pays of huh?

>> No.3474312

>>3474303
Yeah, I think a lot of us here are perhaps too honest and too idealistic in our artistry views. Meanwhile these hustlers are scooping up all the cash

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>>3474312
b-bros

>> No.3474375 [DELETED] 

sakimi copiers make good money on patreon especially if they draw porn. you can straight up trace and color pick sakimis work and make money

That’s the secret to art that people keep asking about

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sakimi copiers make good money on patreon especially if they draw porn. you can straight up trace and color pick sakimis work and make money

That’s the secret to art that people keep asking about

>> No.3474381

>>3474380
Does Patreon have a section where patrons can comment on particular works/posts? If there is, there might be some value in seeing which pieces resonate the most with the audience.

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>>3474119
>polishing turd
>style

>> No.3474405

Sakimi is a disease that must be stopped

>> No.3474411

>>3474380
>Clamychan
they don't even try to hide it lol
then again what did she expect by posting all those tuts

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>>3474411
>mfw i saw clamy advertising tutorials on her patreon after admitting to be sakimichans patron and utilizing sakimi's tutorials

what she do copy and paste sakimi's tuts?

>> No.3474439

>>3474280
>80% of deviants members dont even draw
Same is true for 99% of /ic/, but at least getting seen in dA gets you comissions and sometimes valuable contacts. Loish didn't get her Wacom sponsorship from artstation.

>> No.3474473

>>3474119
It's inevitable that there will be a bunch of Sakimichan copycats. She keeps putting out a bunch of tutorials on how to draw like her, so I'm going to laugh if she gets all angry at all the copycat competitors that SHE created.

>> No.3474500

>>3474473
why the fuck would she get mad she makes 6 figures drawing the same shit and she knows no one is gonna take her gig even if they copy her flawlessly

she doesn't care and never will lmao

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Is this how people make it?

>> No.3474542

>>3474500
I'm going to make a patreon called Sakumichan and copy her style and make money and watch her sue me thus proving you wrong

>> No.3474544

>>3474542
do it pussy you wont

>> No.3474554

>>3474542
>impliying you can actually copy her style

>> No.3474597

>>3474170
she used to work at bioware

>> No.3474622

>>3474597
>source
>u-uh

not the first time a chink put poison in your tea eh?

>> No.3474629

>>3474418
these people shouldn't be getting the exposure and audience they do, fucking brainlet normie kids supporting this beg shit.

Meanwhile Ruan, WeiFeng and Fenghua are fuckin starving, half a rice bowl per day and fake eel juice

>> No.3474821

>>3474170
>never been paid even 5 dollars for his art
>smug posts about someone who was literally employed as a concept artist
lmaoooooooo classic /ic/

>> No.3475235

>>3474540
Who many of these shitters are there?!

>> No.3475239

>>3475235
spend a few minutes on dA, browsing via "more from deviantart" and youll see dozens

>> No.3475243

>>3474119
at least this guy finished rendering the face

>> No.3475519

>>3474381
H-have you never been on the site? Every post a creator makes has a comment box. It's why a lot of people patronize people, hey want to be heard by their favorite creators through their exclusive soapbox.

>> No.3475561

>>3474629
Those chinese game companies can't be paying too badly, considering Blizzard, EA, Ubisoft etc would hire those guys pretty much instantly. And in the case of Ruan, he already worked for some of the biggest western triple A devs in the business.

>> No.3475568

>>3474821
>source
>u-uh

not the first time you fell for the deceitful chink meme eh?

>> No.3475582

>>3475568
Not him, but just google Sakimichan Bioware? There are dozens of articles about how she worked at Bioware Montreal from 2013 to 2015. Do you think they all just went with it and no Bioware employee ever bothered to point out that she was lying? I mean, it's not like she's some small artist who'd fly under the radar. She also posted it on her facebook where she coincidentally happens to be friends with other people who work at Bioware.

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>> No.3477517

>>3474119
>Is this style really that successful?
yes

>> No.3480065

>>3474119
her right eye is weird

>> No.3480144

>>3474119
>whats with people copying a highly successful artists style?
>question answers itself.

>>3474143
You're a moron.

>>3474439
Exactly, views = monetization. Being well see on a nice site like Artstation wont get you the level of recognition that being a Loish on DA will get you. Her ability to make money is vastly superior to the most well known on artstation.

>>3474629
Yes, because telling people they are stupid and have no taste will totally make people like your art more. (see: Disney starwars)

>> No.3480146

Well why you still NGMI?
Explain. EZ money

>> No.3480811

>>3474540
I'd fuck her

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>>3475239
>browsing via "more from deviantart" and youll see dozens

Did what you said and found someone that alternates between sakimi's and Ilya's styles.

>> No.3480906

>>3474280
>what part of deviant being infested did you not understand?
The part where you for whatever reason seem to believe it is preferable to be famous on a site that is smaller and mostly inhabited by other artists who mainly use it as a portfolio dump, as opposed to a site that has a much larger userbase, which is inhabited by lots of non-artists willing to throw money at you.

>> No.3481026

>>3480888
>tfw sakimichan and Ilya are the old master of this generation

>> No.3481541

Just comment "great job, sakimichan!" on their stuff & move on. If they don't get butthurt, they aren't complete hacks, if they get offended you know they're just art vampires who lack any identity & just want the easy cash.

>> No.3481576

>>3480906
This.

>>3474280
Other artists are not the bulk of your customer base. (assuming you're looking to sell your art or do private commissions, prints, etc.)

Anyone who bothers to get to a high level of skill is obviously going to be making money off their art. You don't want to be on a small(er) niche art website as your main way of getting exposure it doesn't have enough reach. Normies don't know what the fuck art station is, but shitloads of people know what DA is. Your problem is you don't even make art, you have no clue what being an artist is. No working artists worries about if they're part of the artstation cool kids. You're talking like someone who's a pleb more in love with the idea of being a "highly skilled artist" than actually in love with making art, telling stories, making characters and paintings. It's a common theme on here, as if being a "highly skilled artist" is like a fashion accessory that'll make everyone think your cooler.

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>>3474119
Christ I almost thought it was an exact trace at first glance.

>> No.3482435

>>3482399
man i would bang the shit out of sona

>> No.3482618

>>3475235
"There are more sakimichan ripoffs than stars in our universe" - blaq reddit scientist

>> No.3482659

>>3482435
same

>> No.3482717

Italian Renaissance painting looks same too.
American golden age illustrations looks same too.
Sargent copycats, "Alla prima" samefags
etc
Not big deal.

>> No.3482727

>>3482717
Good point. You see trends in music and fashion as well.

>> No.3484048

>>3482717
Lots of people die of cancer too.

"It's common" is hardly a reason to dismiss something as not being a problem.

>> No.3484480

>>3474119
It looks good. Most people don't have an eye for anatomy as long as you render well. You would be surprised how many people can't see the weird proportions on the OP image for example

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yeah none of these are the same artist

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>>3484496
I want to fuck

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>> No.3484520

>>3484496
>>3484514

They should all be ashamed of themselves, especially she herself. This shouldn't be categorized or even called art, but something something virgin-pandering-pinup, aka VPP

>> No.3484525

>>3484496
the fact that they all (or almost all) have a patreon while leeching off sakimichan's style makes me physically ill
but go off I guess

>> No.3484541

>>3484520
>>3484525
This is how the entire art world is today. If you think about it, this is "pop art", and I'm starting to think that following these trends is indeed the way to making it. Think about the music industry for example, there is all the sophisticated classical music that does everything right, and it makes no money and gets you nowhere, but it's pure. And then there is all the current pop music fads, like "mumble rap" and Justin Beiber or whoever is on the radio right now. They're the ones scooping up all the money, and then when the trend passes the ones who are able to change with the times continue profiting, and the ones who can't change fall to the wayside with VANILLA ICE.

>> No.3486345

>>3484541
Adding to this, I wouldn't get upset by it either. Imagine if the main audience didn't have the crap to pander to it, but instead had to go to classical music concerts and complain that it's not what they want.

This is what happens with most media. We need containment media to keep the normies out of the good stuff.

>> No.3486364

>>3484520
get off your god damn high horse anon

>> No.3486378

I've always thought it's funny how all these copycats pay Sakimi for her tutorials and then they sell their own tutorials of how to do what Sakimi does but shittier, I don't even follow Sakimi but why support her clones on patreon for shitty/noob-tier versions of her tutorials when they can just support Sakimi herself and get the original content? the fact that a lot of these copycats have patrons is still a mistery to me

>> No.3486657

>>3474312
>doing art for money
ngmi

>> No.3486659

>>3486378
They probably don't know any better. They randomly stumbled across a copycat first and never learned there was anything else.

>> No.3486701

>>3484520
Why? You can hate her work but people seem to forget that she's cashing in on a decade plus of being popular on deviantart by posting regularly and frequently without that many extended breaks. Even back then she's had several clones, so this is nothing new

>> No.3486743

>>3484520
it is art, it somewhere between bad and mediocre.

>> No.3487610

>itt jealous ngmi's
never change /ic/ jesus

>> No.3487708

>>3487610
>itt virgins defending their Canuck Cuck Queen
never change, cuck

>> No.3487778

>>3487610
>>3487708
Now kiss

>> No.3487793

>lost job and considering becoming a saki clone
things have come to this

>> No.3488041

Sakimi may be boring and overdone but hey. At least they are copying a pinup artist who is know for her attention to detail and craftsmanship.

Remember when everyone tried to copy that guy who drew the same fucking anime face 500 times and somehow managed to get caught being a hardcore plagiarist while doing that?

I'll take 200 sakimiclones over coming back to those times.

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>>3488041

>> No.3488667

>>3488370
Which part of it is a bait? Have you actually deluded yourself into believing that her fundamentals are actually bad? She can't draw pussies/tits/dicks but she's good at what she shows upfront.

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>> No.3490492

Isn't large potion of their income from selling tutorials? same reason a lot of old art would look the same if they could post their paintings to everyone.