/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3459360
If you like robots and mechanical things, you will spend a lot of time and care drawing them.

All the same, if you like butts and tiddies, you will spend time and care drawing those.

>>3459461
/thread.
No need to make this any longer.

Post your robots, fellow robod/ic/klets.

>>3459519

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>>3459521

research engines, machinery, engineering, architecture, gears, mechanical joints, weaponry, motors, radar systems, computer parts and electronics

sometimes just sticking a bunch of shit together with joints betwen them looks good enough so you should start with that

>>3459520

To defend! This is the pact!

>>3459360
>How do you draw mecha/robots/machines?

It's funny ... for so many years, as a fan of Battletech, I became familiar with the 80's anime aesthetic common to the original Macross and Dougram shows - the source for almost every design in the original Battletech (formerly Battledroids) game. Drawing them over and over, like the grinding you hear so much clamouring about here, made it seem ... weird to draw giant combat mecha any other way to me.

But I can totally appreciate the more modern aesthetic - guys like Matt Plog, Anthony Scroggins, and Alex Iglesias.

>I've seen some books on drawing cars and planes and so on but there the drawings have countless guides that must take hours to draw and hard to keep track of.

Have you seen the ones for drawing giant robots? No? They're out there.

>Is that just for starting out? With enough practice will you be able to draw robots without having to use tons of guides? How long does that take?

I was able to do it without references after only a few years without even intentionally practicing - just doodling on my notes in class when I was bored. A person who was actually *trying* to get better at it could probably do it much faster than I did.

>>3459519

greeblesgreeblesgreeblesgreeblesgreebles

>80's anime aesthetic
ew

>>3459736
Use more negative space.

>>3459360

I really love this faux realism but of course I loved the atmosphere of MGS as well and I play a lot of tacticool sims so it's no surprise that this aesthetic appeals to me. It looks like the art from the front of a model airplane set, but the perspective is used to fuck with and exaggerate scale. and of course some phallic awareness is always nice.

>>3459519

the creature's design is nice. the split perspective (suggests the creature has only horizontal width and no height) sort of gives it a 2d pixel art vibe which doesn't appeal to me but fits with the design of the robot. I really like the style of rendering.

>>3459521

this is my favorite of these just because of the gesture (diver suit)

>>3459520

stiff gesture, weird perspective, I don't like the composition (no story to tell) but the rendering and design on the small guy is neat! he's so cute.

>>3459523

love the line weights on the left arm

>>3459679

this would be like an elemental / battle armor (I'm pirating this movie which I haven't seen)

>>3459699

cool bit of history. it's interesting because the mechs in MW4 were nothing like anime in terms of mobility (more like literal walking turrets)

>>3460127
>this would be like an elemental / battle armor (I'm pirating this movie which I haven't seen)

There's a challenge in LAS/DAD to draw five mechs with five pilots. My original plan was to pair up famous animated characters with mechs (like Taarna and the Black Knight here) even if they didn't come from the same show/movie. Turns out the rules of the challenge call for us to come up with new mechs and new pilots, so my "homage" idea isn't going to work out.

I specifically quoted >>3459520 because it's a picture of a Black Knight and a Locust, just drawn with more of the modern aesthetic than the original.

>>3460127
>cool bit of history. it's interesting because the mechs in MW4 were nothing like anime in terms of mobility (more like literal walking turrets)

Every mech in the original Battledroids game came from Macross (Stinger, Wasp, Phoenix Hawk, Rifleman, Crusader, Archer, Warhammer, Marauder, and Longbow), Dougram (Scorpion, Shadow Hawk, Wolverine, Griffin, Thunderbolt, Goliath, and Battlemaster) or Crusher Joe (Locust). As the game evolved into Battletech, FASA borrowed a few more designs, like the fighters, dropship, and tank from Crusher Joe, and even introduced rules for mechs that could transform into jet fighters!

Legal action from Harmony Gold, producers of Robotech in America, caused (and is still causing) no end to the heartache for the Battletech folks, as they try to sue anyone they can bully to squeeze a few more dollars out of Robotech. This has also had the terribly unfortunate side effect of limiting the release of other Macross-related products here in the US, even though the franchise has been around for 30 years.

Various parties hold pieces of the Battletech license. Like Marvel comic book heroes, some pieces are more valuable in media other than the one in which they originated - in this case, video games more so than miniatures games. The two most promising solutions to the problem with with HG were to either strike the offending art from references and pretend nobody knows what those original mechs looked like (hence the term "Unseen"), even though the game has stats for them; or to redesign them in a way that keeps the game stats the same, but changes the appearance enough that they could argue in court that they're not infringing on anyone's IP.

It's the latter course that you're probably familiar with from the computer games. The new Battletech game by Hare Brained Schemes has a Battlemaster in it, but you'd be hard-pressed to say it looks much like the Dougram model it's based on.

Mech sketch I guess

>>3459360
Dont worry dad
There's pleeenty of time left :^)

>>3460359
shit, next.

>>3459360
Sorry about the image size on these. I think my favorite mechs and robots start out as interesting shapes, and get sort of filled in from there. The torso seems to be the showpiece on many, as it's shape is pretty arbitrary and it dictates the propoetions for the rest of the body. For the actual mechanical bits, it helps to try and pretend it's a real machine that actually has to move. Think about where the joints are, how they are actuated, where those actuators fit, etc.

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>>3460359

Would not want to be on the business end of those stabby bitz!

>>3460573
>Think about where the joints are, how they are actuated, where those actuators fit, etc.

... and also where to put all the ammunition.

>>3459815
Make me

>>3460573
I know it's probably the most basic of all the images you posted but I really like that small drone middle left there.

>>3460815
kek

>>3460815
Autism like that is the best part of drawing robots.

>>3460573
I really like this one. Like >>3460840 said its the most basic one, but has a charm to it.

I was planning on making a Mecha-based Webcomic so I can post of my older to newer designs.

>>3459360
I feel like there's two ways to approach drawing mechs:
1. Function before Form, where you make conscious design choices as they pertain to the functionality of the mech.
2. Form before Function, where you make design choices based on the overall shape language rather than perfect functionality.

>>3461059
Here's an okay one I drew a while back

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>>3461086
Oops missed this one.

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>>3461091
This was the final... I Still need to buff it out a bit and do a few most poses with it before I can call it done.

But I think this will be the overall final design I go with.

>>3461047
What book is this from?

Gonna post some from my travel sketchbook. 5" x 3.5", so my detail is crap, but they're fun to do on the road. This one was drawn from a 1/100 gundam kit I'd just built from a nearby hobby shop and somehow the illustration looks more like a plastic toy than a 70 foot tall mecha.

>>3462073
I wanted this one to be more dynamic so I went Michael Bay on it and added explosions. Still not happy with how the knee came out and I messed up the inking in a few places, but it was good practice.

>>3462077
I keep trying to play around with warped perspective. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I can't draw buildings for crap without reference, but this was a halfhearted attempt anyway. Pretty good at text and logos though.

>>3462079
And now on to an 80's nostalgia kick. Screwed up the lower jaw of the black lion that forms the head by coloring it black instead of white, but only a sliver of it is seen behind the head so it isn't so bad. The sword also seems wonky, but I was trying to draw on warped lines to make it more dynamic and not just a blocky toy like >>3462073

>>3462080
This one looks better for using a photo reference for the background, but my mistake was drawing the foreground character first and not matching the perspective.

What tactical advantage do mechs have over regular armored vehicles?

>>3461047
Sauce
All google give me is artists blog.

>>3462106
None. I mean, sure, they can walk over rocky terrain, mountains and hills but when you have the sci-fi tech to make large walking tanks you may as well put antigrav or repulsors on them and just have your tanks fly as well. Mechs exist in fiction solely for the "rule of cool", which is the idea that if something looks awesome enough then it doesn't matter how ridiculous or impractical it is. Like using a chainsaw as a weapon.

>>3462106
they look cooler

>>3462118
This. There is absolutely no reason for mechs to exist no matter what the technology. Like the picture in the OP with metal gear. Imagine that tank opposite from it is like 30% bigger, it would fuck metal gear up and cost a fraction of the price. Hell, it'd probably fuck metal gear up as-is-or if it didn't one of it's two or three friends certainly would.

If anything military technology will get smaller and more efficient as technology improves, not more ridiculous. Mechs are fun but are actually fucking retarded. Apart from Metal Gear's function as a tactical nuclear launcher, there is nothing it can do that a helicopter couldn't.

>>3462106
They can punch each other in the face.

My colors end up over saturated so I tried a B/W.

>>3462734
I'm having a hard time figuring out what she's doing. Confusing composition.

>>3462357
Well, regular armored vehicles shoot each other in the face

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>>3461055

Sauce me up my dudes, jewgle doesnt give me shit.

>>3462082
Word of advice when drawing transformers, try to research the vehicle they transform into (if possible). That way you get a better idea of the proportions for their robot mode. For instance, primes legs here are far too thicc for the main part of the cab. and since his arms have to tuck backwards and his forearms move inwards to the spaces below the chrome bars across his chest, you need to think about how far that actually is.

>>3463835
I think it could be imaginefx

>>3459519
it's a shitty looking robot. It looks worse than trash, please chop off your drawing/painting hands.

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>>3459523
>perspective and construction
do you even know those things anon? You're work looks bad, I suggest you keep those nasty drawings to yourself next time.

>>3460583
we were asking for robots, not trash cans, "trash" perfectly fits your artwork anon.

>>3461062
it doesn't look "okay" anon, don't bother drawing any mechs anon. No matter what artwork you produce it'll end up looking like shit anyway.

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>>3464510
Ya'll got any more of them constructive feedbacks bruh?
Hard mode: don't look at the knees.

do exoesqueletons count as mechas?

>>3460815
Battletech is incredibly fucking retarded when it comes to weight in general. These mechs would weight hundreds upon hundreds of tons each but even the largest weight just under 100 tons. They tower above tanks when even modern tanks weight about 72 fucking tons.

The kind of armor they would require to repel shells like that would be insanneeellyyy dense too.

any feedback on this guy?

>>3464513
>>3461062
No idea what's wrong with that guy anon, your picture is good.

>>3459360
I want my game to be a thing but I'm 99% I'm going to die here. In fact, I'm 100% sure I'm going to die here. And not in a "be reborn somewhere else" kind of way either. But die here, remain here, and suffer forever kind of way.

>>3464513
Post your work
>GOT EM

>>3465152
Thanks, anon

>>3460815
>Let's build our entire robot out of explosive ammunition.
>Allah ak-bot over here

>>3459519
Tried my hand at an MCU style Iron Man suit the other day

Fun to play around with

Not often do mechs but here are few sketches

>>3465733
also this from a while ago

>>3461018

Looks like pressure opacity for outlining and a wider less opaque brush for emphasizing edges. Am I missing anything?

>>3466246
>Am I missing anything?
Nope.

>>3464518
>flat blending of colors
seriously anon try to study more on rendering, it's a shitty robot, even the composition looks shitty and uninteresting. Seeing your mere work alone made me vomit a little in my mouth.

>>3466755
wtf is this shit? a kid in elementary can draw better than that. Please do us a favor and forget about drawing mecha robots, whatever art you produce will definitely end up looking like shit anyway.

>>3467094

Ah! We see now who is the bigger crab!

>>3467096
Based Alex should dump piggy and start a kickstarter campaign to fund whatever his dream mecha game is. Even if it's just another battletech project.
His designs are literally the only things that keeps this bunch of incompetent canadian faggots afloat.

>>3461057
Looking good man, I see a lot of potential for when or if you'll color everything