/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3452317
Even me?!

>>3452317
>needing a form of validation from an Anonymous tentacle rape fetishist forum board

Not. Gonna. Make it.

>>3452317
Based on the immature, delusional fantasies that people here create about what 'the industry' is and what it actually means to make it - its unlikely that most will.

>>3452319
Making it isn’t guaranteed

>>3452319
>>3452322
>>3452323
>>3452324
Doesn't matter. You're gonna make it.

>>3452322

FUCKING IDOLSHITTERS

I won't make it in the industry, I'm not interested. But I will make it.

>>3452317
Thanks anon! I can't wait to get into the industry!

>>3452323
>>3452342
>>3452347
Just what is 'the industry'

Thanks anon, you too

LETS FUCKING GO YOU GOD DAMN INBREDS

WERE GONNA MAKE IT ONE DAY

>>3452357
you're mom'ses vagina lmfao

BASED MANANIME BRO

>>3452357
Creating art for a living for a major company? Or a company in general.

DANJELAS, MOCE DANJELAS

>god i wish that were me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxHgVBpKNEo

>>3452333
thats not him though he was quoting another anon but he didn't reply

>>3452382
go back to reddort until you learn how to greentext fgt

>>3452357
'The industry' is a catch-all term for what /ic/ thinks the world of professional art revolves around. It includes:

>fantasy & sci-fi illustration
>concept art
>tumblr character commissions (often with those fast-food style commission charts)
>porn patreons
>furry commissions

To much of /ic/, these are the only way to make a living with any form of art. Even when just focusing on 2D art, there isn't just one 'industry'. There are many - but because they don't focus on digital paintings of dragons or space marines, people here dismiss them as being not legitimate opportunities for professional 2D artists. For example, there's never really a whole lot of talk on /ic/ about being a general 'freelance illustrator', which is ironic since it's such a drawing-focused community. A versatile freelance illustrator can dip their toes into commissioned jobs relating to editorial, gig posters, murals, branding, portraits, apparel, comics, books, advertising, etc. and do great. Even when taken individually, there are whole, massive industries that revolve around each of these types of jobs.

It's one thing to not know about opportunities outside of what you know due to inexperience, but it's another to believe that these are the only real career opportunities for ALL professional artists.

>>3452389
I want to be Moma artist like you, but not poor.

>>3452387
Kill yourself retard
https://boards.fireden.net/ic/thread/3417890/#3418050
Pic related is the original anon shitting his wall. the nico poster was only making fun of him.
you got BTFO.
cope.

>>3452400
>my plan to ruin Nicotard's already shitty reputation, ruined by the archive

Why is this allowed?

>>3452406
I did it for you, stop wasting time and go back drawing boy

>>3452319
Except for u buddy

>>3452406
Because Nico is best

>>3452418
DELETE THIS

>>3452406
kek you realize that practically everyone knew we where quoting another Anon and replying to them, we where not talking about ourselves you dork. Now it all makes sense why you kept posting that ridiculous reply and I say again out of sincerity, get a fucking life.

>>3452317
thanks op. you too

>>3452357
Some anon has been rambling about some supposed 'industry' lately that everyone on /ic supposedly aspires to. It seems to be comprised of everything that anon doesn't like.

Onwards /ic! Read Loomis! Git gud! The industry awaits!

>>3452444
>get a life
>says the literally ever-present avatarfag cancer poster

You're still a nico-nico-NGMI crab cunt; go back to /a/ already or post your work you weenie

>>3452317
You're a real human bean, fren

>>3452317
Thank you, random anime guy

>>3452484
> It seems to be comprised of everything that anon doesn't like.

I'm the anon you're talking about. The whole point of my rants is not that you should like what I like, but rather it's wrong to think the world of professional art revolves solely around fantasy / sci-fi / concept art. I've made that extremely clear. Yet people still seem to disagree with that and get extremely defensive for some reason. They are dismissive of virtually any other form of professional art - even in the broad industry of illustration.

Again - this is what people on /ic/ think:
If you're doing any form of professional art that's NOT fantasy / sci-fi / concept art, then it's "MOMA garbage" and incapable of supporting someone financially.

Does this sound reasonable to you?

>>3452485
>ever-present
Some of us hardly post here anymore and moreover I am not form /a/. Post your work faggot.

>>3452507
/ic is comprised of many people who think and like different things.

>>3452511
So this is the power of the nico poster

>>3452647
Not a confutation. Post your work.

>>3452319
you're everywhere, dude.

>>3452511
>>3452651

>>3452710
>visible breasts
This is blasphemy.

>>3452711
s-sorry

>>3452317
Back at you, friend.

>>3452317
>Walks to your Destiny

>>3452317
Positive attitude makes us stronger and happier. Thanks anon, we're going to make it.

>>3452418
What's the artist's name, Anon?

>>3452409
How about now?

>>3453058
>>3452418
Nevermind, found it.

>>3452595
>/ic is comprised of many people who think and like different things.
You know this isn't true. You really think /ic/ is a bastion of diverse, open thinking and different types of work?

No. Unless it's digital paintings of fantasy / sci-fi subjects, anime, or porn, then /ic/ wants nothing to do with it. It's hard to argue otherwise.

>>3453574
>Stop liking what I don't like!
I too am an insufferable twat.
But don't worry friendo, you'll still make it!

What does making it even mean?

>>3454702
according to /fit/, dying from a drug-induced heart attack while fucking ladyboys in Thailand

>>3454718
Don't you blaspheme here, boy.

>>3453583
>Stop liking what I don't like!
This is a pathetic and defensive response, and it's really the only thing I hear whenever I call out /ic/ on having a delusional and flawed tunnel vision on what it means to be a professional artist. I've never said that I didn't enjoy fantasy or sci-fi art, but you're responding as if I did. It's a weak sham of an argument set up so you can have something to easily refute.

Try again, friendo.

>>3455093
For future reference you could have just said "nice strawman fallacy" and left it at that.

>>3452511
damn you cant draw for shit

>>3455093
I hope you make it and get a job in the industry you son of a bitch.

>>3455093
No point! There's literally no point in arguing with someone like you whose mind is already made up!
But don't worry, you'll still make it friendo.desu!

>>3455799
Is there really a use to calling out a strawman fallacy to someone who's using one? If they knew what it was, presumably they wouldn't have to be reminded what they're doing. It's better to simply explain what they're doing is wrong and weak minded.

>>3455912
>>3455988
I appreciate your support. I've been fortunate to have had success with freelance illustration in the US, which I've been working towards for a while. I hope you also achieve whatever career goals you're after, and to remember that it's okay and perfectly viable to do professional art that's not sci-fi / fantasy / concept art

Loomis let me make it. I just want to make a well-animated game with appealing characters and a fun story. I need to earn enough money so that my aging parents and younger brother can retire with dignity. I won't watch them suffer any longer; I must do this, even if I have to do it all myself!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDX0yrhhQls

DAILY REMINDER YOU'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT

>>3458606
n-...NO I'm NOT!

Faggot fuck you, in having a wrist surgery in 2 days, and I haven't drawn from half a year. Fucking fragile useless human shell

>>3458687
It's not the wrist on the outside that counts, but the wrist on the inside. Also you have to of them just for your fyi information

>>3458325
Are you me?

>>3458325
I can feel the autism flowing through your veins. You are definitely going to make it.

>>3458766
You make no sense

>>3452317
YES! ALL OF US WILL MAKE IT AND ACHIEVE OUR GOALS.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS OF "MAKING IT"

IT COULD BE FINALLY MAKING LEWDS OF YOUR WAIFU/HUSBANDO

IT COULD BE MAKING MOENEY OFF OF YOUR ART THROUGH FREELANCING

IT COULD BE WORKING IN A GAME STUDIO, COMIC PUBLISHER, OR ANIMATION STUDIO

....JUST TO NAME A FEW!

DON'T LET THE CRABS GET TO YOU, YOUR FUTURE SELF WILL THANK YOU!!!

>was /beg/-tier
>just got a full time job
I'm not gonna make it brehs

>>3459182

All of this. Just focus on what YOU want for YOURSELF. A nice cushy job at DC or Disney won't seem so nice after a year of pulling brutal all-nighters just to get that bit of illustration/animation finished.

The grass is always greener, /ic/...

>>3452389

>but it's another to believe that these are the only real career opportunities for ALL professional artists.

Exactly! Cities like London and New York are a thriving hub of opportunity for illustrators. Just a get a job flexible enough to pay the bills (or find a way to game the system) and spend ALL of your free time drawing, so as to get better consistently. Farm the fundamentals and attend life drawing classes whenever you can, maybe once a week. And don't fret about 'art style' (I hate that term because it implies that a person's unique way of drawing can be aped by others), you'll develop your own look.

But you forget to mention the most important thing of all: NETWORKING! When I used to freelance, I went to parties, exhibitions and comic festivals, the amount of creative people from different fields congregate there. Talk to them, exchange details. /ic/ seems to forget the value of knowing somebody - after all, most of your favourite artists ended up where they are because of connections.

>>3459193
You need to sustain yourself before you can focus on making it

>gave up on drawing six or seven years ago
Probably not gonna make it

>>3459597
How do I talk to people and get to know them by being a stranger?

>>3459585
Speaking of greener grass


No stress and anxiety over paying bills>>>>>> starving artist

It doesn't matter how godly your skill is, if no one will commission you then it's as good as nothing. I'm currently learning a trade skill bc my degree isn't giving me the salary I need to comfortably do art

>>3452317
Thank you, anon.

>>3452319
Especially (you).