/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3427285
>Jenny (((Wakeman)))

G-d I love her so much

>tfw no qt Jewish robot gf

Life isn't fair to be honest, family

>>3427285
https://coub.com/view/17vdys

>>3427309
Soon brother

>>3427546
cute face desu

>>3427285
oh it's back, great.

How do you recognize a displaced inbetween from a keyframe? I want to start practicing animation by trying to recreate other people's works but I get confused when trying to identify these two things.
And any advice on what I could do with this gif before I commit to animating it in 1's would be great. I want to keep it relatively simple so only certain parts are moving. I've posted around on other places and so far the only advice I got was

>don't ask me, I don't know how to animate.

thanks.

>>3427744
>I want to keep it relatively simple so only certain parts are moving.
youre doing the opposite of a simple animation. when animating you dont jump to inbetweening. get your keys down first. also animating in parts is not ideal.

>>3427765
Okay, don't animate in parts, i guess that would look wonky. But sometimes I just wanna see what something looks like when it moves, so I just go ahead and try to do it. Like with my cat girl image, it started out as a illustration but then I decided that I actually wanted it to move a bit. So I tried to make my own version of this attached gif. I thought it would be relatively easier because she stays in one position.

I didn't have another illustration drawn out, of a different angle, so it's not like I could of used that as a keyframe and figured out how to add volume with displaced inbetweens.
I actually have a monkey on my back that wants to see what this would look like in at least 2's or 3's. And I also wanted to try cellshading the animation. I figured the only loss I could take is whatever time I spend experimenting, so there's no reason not to do it, imo.

>>3427851
>displaced inbetweens.
did you make that up?

>>3427744
Butthole moves too far imo

I'm really interested in making a short animated series on youtube, i feel like i have a lot to learn in way of animation, but i am quite familar with it, so i was wondering if this style would be appealing? (These arent the real character colours btw)

>>3428871
Heres a very early sketch of one of the characters ( it will be a story based around some kids who live in a world full of different species like demons)

>>3428871
>>3428874
it better have some interesting writing and story because those designs sure aren't.

>>3428879
Im planning on keeping the characters simple, but these are just early stages still so i will develop the designs more so they look more original. I think that simple always works best though (pic related)

>>3428871
>>3428874
This is charming. It'll do for animation.

>>3428879
Ignore this crab.

>>3428871
Your colors are style are very comfy. I think it'll do well for an animation. For some reason it reminded of this short https://youtu.be/KJNWlMiL1zM

Just getting into 2D animation after years of stop motion. Here's Mario doing a kick-flip. How did I do?

>>3429108
Cute i like the drag on his hat and mustache. He doesn't crouch down in anticipation before kickflipping though, it looks weird with no anticipation.

What software do you guys use

>>3429164
if you're not using clip studio you're doing something wrong

>>3429164
Superior Tvpaint folded over a million times.

>>3429164
who fucking cares

>>3429185
Why does the smoke at the end do that?

>>3429187
breaking sound barrier

>>3427919
Really? I got Richard Williams "The Animator's Survival Kit" from one of these animation threads. And you've never heard of a displaced inbetween? When talking about the difference of inbetweening forms rather than lines, he talks about how lazy inbvetweeners will just do the lines. Its in ASK04.
Wait a minute...Where is the download link in this thread?

>>3427948
Okay, lessen it's movement or keep it in the same place but have it open up a little?

I tried to do some sort of head motion with drappery effects on the hair but I would call this a fail.

>>3427285
Not sure if this is one of the links but you can pick up the magnet url here (For Richard Williams Animator's Survival Kit)

>https://www.dropbox.com/s/r5zsmmi7h9uc74t/Animator%27s%20Survival%20Kit%20-%20Richard%20Williams%20%2816dvds_books_english_spanish%29.torrent?dl=0

>>3429199
stop using buzz words and talk like someone whos actually trying to learn animation.

>>3429164
Flash

>>3429199
More 'reveal' and less movement, imo.

(please no ban, is art)

>>3429185
i care. stopped using flash because it sucks dickkk and wanna know what to spend a million hours learning.

>>3429901
>spend a million hours learning.
If you have at least a few braincells most people can learn the basics of any software in a few days. If you like to do a lot of camera movement and tweening then look at toonboom harmony, its like a better flash. if you have a more traditional hand drawn approach then try Tvpaint.

>>3427309
Youll have your own jemny wakeman gf within the next 2 decades

Should I wait to get Toon Boom and learn how to draw on the computer first or is this something I should just jump right into?

here's a doodle i did earlier, was a lot of fun. sorry for the way-too-light lines

>>3430393
ASAP. Get some post-it notes, scribble some bouncing balls, and go from there.

>>3430393
Just animate in Krita to get started, it's free.

>>3430405
Ears should fall slower and the body should squash and stretch more.

>>3427285
>http://www.referencereference.com/

Does not work. *Д*

>>3428871
Depends of your stories.

Thoughts?

>>3429221
noted

>>3429372
So more like this? I putt less movement on the butt jiggle.

>>3430989
reminds me of old school Doom.

>>3430989
It's a fun effect but seems kinda pointless to rotoscope that.

>>3430989
Nice

>>3430989
you must have worked very hard on this. I have nothing negative to say. It's amazing

>>3427285
https://www.patreon.com/motionmarkus
Can somebody poast his tutorials please

>>3431328
well not.

>>3431413
Get outta here markus

Messing around with constraints in TB.

>>3428871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhoATZ1Imtw

>>3432416
What did he mean by this?

>>3431958
Test with it

>>3432555
Hologram test

>>3432555
could you make her to a backflip or would that break the rig?

>>3432560
Could do that no problem, the rig is 360 degrees with color masks.

>>3432561
forgot image

TV Paint 11 crack when

>>3432564
Cool, is it also 360 degrees in up down rotation too? Im just trying to decide if i should use rigs or not for my project, it has a lot of jumping around action scenes. It seems like rigs might be difficult to use in that scenario but they also look so much faster to work with

>>3430989
a fun map

>>3432622
You can rig it 360 yeah. Hard to say depending on what you're doing like whether its a game or a long animation or whatnot.

Getting back into the swing of things

This went differently in my head. How do you people keep the proportions/details consistent throughout the animation?

>>3433245
ooo this is nice

>>3432564
i can see how this could do a backflip in profile to the camera, but could it do one while facing the camera?

>>3433893
The head circle is bound to the colour white so it would just pan into the head. The body could be rigged to have parts that go 360 degrees up and down with redraw (usually you just don't do this as that's a very rare occurrence). But You would move the body part up as its doing the backfrlip and moving the legs over body and making them large and redrawing to account for angle (with everything pivoting around the head circel).

any tips on doing limited animation?

>>3433977
Quick crappy reposition example (with no redraw like I would if i was doing an actual front flip).

>>3433982
wtf is limited animation? shitty tweening?

>>3434008
Maybe he means animations with no inbetweens, like "animated' comics.

If so then the key poses and having them dynamic is really important.

>>3434008
Economical animation. i.e. not keeping everything buttery smooth on 1s. It can look better if done well imo.

>>3433982
strong key poses and add a little slow in and slow out to the keys/dont just snap into them. also dont be afraid to copy paste parts of drawings. only use 1s for very fast motions. slow movements can be on much slower framerates

>>3433983
.... ..draw her fucking

>>3434036
Eventually, but someone already drew some lewd fanart:

>>3434030
>not keeping everything buttery smooth on 1s. It can look better if done well imo
i wouldnt call that limited...

>>3429164
Toonboom Harmony Essentials

>>3433842

>>3433842
>>3435096
CUTE

>>3435114
Thanks, boo~

>>3435096
really cute

>>3436102

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=718k4ZIkip8&feature=youtu.be

Help, does anyone know how to resize all the animation on flash?

>>3436181
select all keyframes > copy frames > make a new symbol (ctrl + f8) > paste the frames in there > go to main stage and place the symbol you made on it, then you can resize it.

There might be an easier way but this is how I do it.

>>3430989
How many frames is that?

>>3432297
Too fast for my eyeballs, but I like it!

>>3436181
>>3436192
Anon's trick works fine, and it's the one I've used for full scenes and complex stuff, however I was shown a technique recently by a friend that's faster, doesn't use symbols, and works pretty well for simple rough animations and things of the sort.
Use the "edit multiple frames" option where the onion skin tools are, drag it across the entire animation's length, CTRL-A and then you could move/scale it anywhere you want with the free transform tool. Turn off edit multiple frames if you wanna check the sizing.
Anon's trick works good but it takes a little longer to do.

>>3436102
>>3436105
these are good

I made a new cartoon. Desperately hoping to become the next SickAnimation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWPi_jXdddE

>>3436884
This was fucking great dude.

Does anyone know where you can get a copy of Toon Boom Harmony 12-15? Flash has been giving me a lot of issues when it comes to exporting and it’s drawing tools. Wish I had to money to just outright buy the license.

>>3437237
>trouble exporting.
If you're not using swivel to export your flash .swf's you should try that

>>3437303
I’ve also been having problems exporting them to .swf. It’s like I’m losing frames and there’s some weird lag that happens in them. In that one I posted you might notice when Nyako is swiping her paw it slows down for a moment.

still a long way from complete.

>>3436233
That was at 40 something.
Am at 79 for that part now, also working on a different one.
15 fps

>>3437404
fantastic. Love it, saved. Pls continue updating so I can save them too.

>>3429164
If you're asking that question it means you're a beginner, and if you're a beginner it literally doesn't matter. Anything you have access to and will use to practice.

>>3430994
Literally rotoscoped quake, so yeah

>>3432464
its all about style.

>>3429164
ABOVE ANIME CC 2018

>>3429164
Kreeta

>>3430989
this is clearly rotoscoped but looks kind of cool nonetheless, nice work i guess.

>>3437460
So was the video good or bad?

>>3429164
blender

>>3437531
I think Sia can save any work.

>>3437395
preddy cool. keep working on it

>>3436447
Thank you so much anon, it really helped!

>>3437395
rough line work complete. getting the background to move right is going to be a pain in the ass. I'm no good with symbols.

>>3437679
after the camera angle changes to show the back of the character, it looks a little shitty to be honest, anon.
I'd recommend you to try and have the character subtly rotate in 3D space to show the motion's momentum, rather than have it mechanically come to a stop. It'll make the motion have more weight and create more of an impact on the angle change
also, dont have to animate on 1's and 2's all the time, anon. you could go onto 4s if you need to. it could give you more anticipation into the motion.

>>3437707
Your line work is extremely shaky to the point of distraction.

You might wanna practice more with simpler character designs to master the basics a bit more before trying to animate something this complex.

The reason I say this is not to put you down or discourage you, but honestly just because it's easier to overcome issues like shakiness and inconsistency when you have something simpler to work with. Once you've figured out how to get past it, it will be easier to tackle more complex animations like this.

>>3437714
not him but i think this is pretty lousy advice. line work is not something that matters until it comes to clean up. its the motion that counts and i think theyve got a decent anticipation/wind up going. the shapes arent even that inconsistent just wobbly lines

Has selecting something with the lasso tool then dragging it always copied the drawing in flash? I don’t feel like it has always done this.

>>3437751
thats not normal. are you holding down alt when dragging it? because thats how i duplicate things

>>3437753
Nope, imma try restrarting and see if that fixes anything

>>3437707
yeah the second rotation definitely needed to be a bit slower. also the end I have only started the end bit.
>>3437714
>>3437679
"rough line work"

>>3437756
Yep, that got it. Also, did this real quick to experiment with how to trick the eye into thinking your animating more than you are. It’s crazy how much life a little squash and stretch can give an animation. Bounce two poses together and they seem to go right into one another without the need for an inbetween at times.

>>3434043
i bet you are a girl and hate it when people ask you that

>>3438539
nice stuff anon; timings spot on.

to be somewhat nit-picky the torso leans a bit too far forward.

OK, so I know this is bad but I'm looking for new opinions about why it's bad.

>>3432297
Need a to have a little more variation in the timing of the actions. Try to stretching out the frames so that they get longer immediately after he get's smacked in the face and then accelerate again after he get's his bearings

>>3436884

THIS

>>3439202
Is it just me or is it choppy

>>3438539
Head's too bouncy here.

>>3429164
Easytoon because I love me some oekaki.

>>3436884
lol at the monkey noises at the end. good work man.

So I feel like I'm finally getting the hang of animating but theres still something that confuses me.
How do people color animations?
Is there a quick way to do it or is it really coloring every single frame?
I'm using Photoshop to draw and animate but if theres a better software for coloring I could just export the lineart and stuff.

>>3431958
what software is this?

>>3440348
Adobe AfterEffects

>>3440417
its toonboom you dingus

>>3440348
toon boom harmony

>have never drawn in my life
>can barely even handwrite legible letters
>want to become hobbyist cartoonist/animator
>don't own anything except paper and pencil
>not even computer

How can I achieve this? I want to become good

>>3440568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Pjgs9I9Ns

>>3440568
Sticky notes and pencil, my dude.
Just a heads up: handwriting doesn't correlate to drawing skills. I can speak from experience.

>>3440578
I like Harry. He's awesome!

>>3440568
>don't own anything except paper and pencil

That's literally all you need to git gud.

I'm thinking of trying adobe after effects to animate? ive been using flash for a long time, but i want to try and make a fluid rig on after effects after watching and researching about it, is this a good idea? how hard is af?

>>3440578
>>3440579
>>3440965

Is there a book I need to go through?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3e2stGobpM

here's something for you lads to chew on

>>3441390

>>3441392

>>3441393
https://discord.gg/VB3rGrr

and a place for anyone to post their work in progress, since there are others doing the same

>>3436181
Don't listen to the other anons, If you want to make your flash a bigger aspect ratio, just go to Composition settings. Then input a different ratio. I use 1920/1080 for widescreen. If you want to make it even larger select a larger aspect ratio like 1440 for 4k

>>3441372
Animators Survival Guide by Richard Williams. read it once, do some exercises, practise for several years to achieve what you think is a level of competence. Then read it again and realise that you know nothing.

Is it a no no to use copyrighted songs in your demo reel?
I feel like some of my best ideas are set to songs.

>>3439202
He keeps stopping

>>3441723
Why not just ask for permission to use those songs?

>>3441723
Or use non copyrighted music, there are entire sites dedicated to it, and it's not all garbage.

>>3440568
>>3441430
>>3441372

>tfw i can barely even draw a stick figure
>i'll never manage shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7lPy2abR6I because i was that kid who made the stupid decision to read books in his free time instead of doodling

>>3441430
Should I also go through all the /beg/ sources

>>3441829
listen, kid.
Just do audio books and doodle while listening.

>>3429164
i use adobe animate cc 2017, just cuz its something i know a lot of earlier web toon creators used and theres plenty of adobe flash tutorials out there. but imo the program you use isn't important as long as your not a complete dumbass. learning any software take less than a month, and i mean a consecutive month to learn all the programs tricks and shortcuts it has to offer. if you really want to learn animation don't spend(waste) all your time learning the programs and learn to draw with a conscious effort of keeping time and position.

>>3442149
funkin this. drop your books into a brning ring of fire you nerrrrrrds

Hi guys, I need to make an underwater scene that lasts for maybe a whole minute, its for a music video so Im assuming it needs a lot of visual stimuli. I have no idea how to start, how to construct the sequence.
Any good reference out there I can get some inspo from?????

>>3442538
well make sure you reference the beat a lot, and just do trippy stuff, everyone loves that. you've probably seen 'the music scene' so rip off that, or idk something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAWN_AqqY38

Is there any resources for learning 2d VFX outside of elemental magic books?

>>3442632
bitey.com/fx

Adam Philips' course is definitive and inexpensive-but I dropped out to learn how to draw better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKmo_ab0kY4

>>3442639
Sweet thank you!

>>3442639
>>3442640
Checked it out.

It's a 56 week course, and you get one course a week (4 a month at $20).

So to get all 56 tutorials you need to pay $280, and you have to wait a whole year before the course gets to the stuff you want ie you cant skip forward to what you want to see. That's kinda real shit.

Also read about the kickstarter they did which turned out to not deliver after years and no refunds. All he's done since is still try to make brickenwood thing popular over and over and stick to that character (and the game hes advertising with 2 v 2 brikcenwood looks like total shit with floaty unity physics).

I think i'll pass.

>>3437417
Here's another part I started working on.
Probably won't continue either very much.

>>3430989
Fukken sick mate, cheers

It's >>3442538 again, what program should I use for frame by frame animations? Hopefully something like flash but with photoshop level brush capabilities???

>>3442547
Arigato desu.

>>3437826
started animating the background.

>>3442825
I mean you could use Photoshop but the timeline is a pain in the ass. How long is the video and how much time do you have to do it?
>>3442829
wrong gif

>>3442850
I have like two weeks maybe, it's about a whole minute of animation. I'd love to do photoshop but no onionskins makes it so uch harder to do.

>>3442910

>>3442916
jfc

Photoshop for animating or Clip Studio?

If you had to chose between the two.

>>3427285
decided to give a crack and now have alot of respect for animators.
thoughts? probably shouldnt have colored it but what ever

>>3443796
The string on the kite seems really rigid, it should be making more dynamic shapes with wind like that, but I think the color helps make the scene look alive. Keep it up

>>3443312
Clip Studio

>>3442694
for me it was the cringy animation done in this video>>3442639
Like i don't need to learn animation to do this

>>3441430
Or do it like me
read it once and then stop doing everything.
read it again and still don't know what the fuck you are supposed to do

Does anyone have any experience using stop motion apps on your phone to digitalise animations you did on paper?

Any reccomendations?

>>3445041
That. . Sounds awful, unless it's purely something for kicks like doodles. .
Use a scanner, or spend the time to go to a library or something and scan there.

>>3441430
Animators Survival Guide by Richard Williams. read it once, learn that all animators should animate on 1s and never use holds because that'll make animation easier, and animation is supposed to torture you ---also you have to draw like Michelangelo first. Then throw it in the trash and study from the Preston Blair animation book, a real animation book that teaches you animation.

>>3427285
>ToonBoom Harmony
>https://www.toonboom.com/products/harmony/pricing
Which one should I get, just the basic package I presume?

>>3445440
or get it free from cgpeers

I make a animation now.
Tell me what i should do

Is it worth going to university to study animation?

>>3427948
>>3427744
Butthole shouldn't move at all, should stretch.

>>3442639
That nigga looks like the Gay of Thrones dwarf.

>>3445855
only for the connections. they wont teach you shit

>>3445855
No.

>>3436884

Good god man, this rivals and surpasses a good chunk of fucking Adult Swim, bravo, brav-fucking-o.

>>3445855
once you know how to do it, you're basically only limited by time and skill

Crazy how much movement you can get by dragging one body part

Sorry about the contrast and brightness, had to use work scanner.

>>3447236
Nice keys

>>3447257
ty.

lil

>>3445446
a loop of dancing/jumping

Does anyone know if the autosave function on Krita actually works (At least on Windows 10)? I can't seem to be able to find anything.

I don't know what to animate.

I dont understand animating in 1s, 2s, and 3s. I even watched videos on youtube and I still dont understand it.

>>3448526
1s is animating at 24 fps, this is considered a really smooth high quality rate. 2s is 12 fps which is pretty much the animation standard. 3s is 8 fps, this is considered a very economical and can be pretty choppy if you use if for big movements.

anyone have tvpaint for mac, please ?

>>3447490
Good, but you gotta finish it.

>>3447648
Done in paint and MovieMaker

>>3448634
How do you still have a copy of MovieMaker? I want one for the luls.

>>3448561
How does that apply when your using the timeline? Use every secs or can you skip some them

>>3448705
If your timeline is 24 fps, 1s is a new picture for each frame, 2s is a new picture for each 2 frames and so on. That's how they got their names.

I've been working on this the past couple of days in Photoshop for an auction commission.

>>3429164
opentoonz and a cracked version of tvpaint.

>>3449000
if you want a critique, the boob bounce is off rhythm, shouldn't move straight up as she penetrated there should be more of a "pull" to them if that makes sense.
Also adjusting the timing of the frames would go a very long way to making things more dynamic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BarOk2p38LQ
Just found this video, it should explain what i mean by timing.

>>3449010
This is my first animation, so your critique is really helpful, thank you.

>>3449069
I do wanna say, putting aside the critique, it does look real nice. Ya got a tumblr or somethin'?

>>3448644
MovieMaker has a bad rep, but if you just want to experiment and play around with animation, it gets the job done. It's in no way professional, but for new, new, new beginners I see no problem with it as a toy.

>>3449000
Not a fan of that weird protrusion fetish but the rest of it is definite poner fuel

>>3439202
>about why it's bad
maybe apply inverse kinematics with custom curves to resolve the choppiness from in-betweens. don't know much about plugins that show you the motion graph similar to the histograms in photoshop, but if you manage to implement that and work with it, please don't fall onto the twixtor interpolation kind of motion. fewer frames and smears convey more, not 60 fps ultra sharp animation.

work in progress of a thicc dancing woman

>>3449081
It's lutivian on tumblr and fa, I'm just starting out with this kind of subject matter.
>>3449084
Ah thanks man, that's the best kind of compliment.

>>3448644
topwin-movie-maker.com/

Any advice on how to map out an animation and generally start off?

>>3449452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDqjIdI4bF4
A super quick run down of important points of animation in general.

I'd recommend going through The Animator's Survival Kit by Richard Williams as a starting point for understanding.

As for what you want to physically place down first, it really depends what kind of animation you're intending on doing.

>>3449473
I want to animate characvters but don't have much to go on. Particularly someone firing a gun. Side view.

>>3449382
I don't trust that site, I ain't clicking that shit.

>>3449138
holy shit, real nice anon. I like the line quality a lot.

Did an alert gif for stream. One day I'll add him leaving the frame as well

>>3449655
This is very nice, needs a frame or two at the end, ends too abruptly/choppily.

>>3449655
i feel like it overshoots too much given how slow it is at the beginning, because it not only overshoots downwards, it then also overshoots upwards before the settle. it goes from very slow to very fast in an unbelievable way.

>>3449693
>>3449664
These were some of my thoughts as well after I hadn't looked at it for a while. Though I felt that the over the top bounce accidentally worked better on stream than I expected, because it is such a small asset in the overall picture, so the exaggeration makes it stand out better. I don't wanna dedicate too much time working on stream assets so currently I'm planning on Sunday to animate the second half of this and hopefully fix some things that bother me

>>3448413
Animated a person dancing

>>3448413
animate a scared chicken who wants some love from the fox

>>3452227
How does IC feel about RandoWis?

How does /ic/ feel about RandoWis?

>>3452358
Onions

>>3452358
Who?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=djiIVaDxnew&feature=youtu.be
This is bad, right?

>>3439378
Moon walk

>>3452731
no that was amazing

>>3427285
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERAqJjRHwUs

>>3449701
That's understandable. I think a layman would probably get more of a delight out of the exaggeration compared to an animator, who has more of a discerning eye for quality.

>>3436884
G O L D

>>3452731

It's decent. I would focus on my own improvement if I were you, rather than try to disparage others. Especially when they're creating 4 minutes of fully animated and coloured content.

>>3436884
I love weird ass shit like this, good job anon

>>3427309
>be walking down the street with my robot waifu
>see fat neckbeard with his robot waifu
>people avoid him
>turning away so they don't have to meet eye contact
>he has her dressed in a maid outfit
>Wait, that kind of looks like mi----
>realize I'm staring at my reflection.

>>3453285
A future worth fighting for

>>3430271
When a lot of people try to learn software, they'll think top down.
They watch tutorials, and read parts of manuals without doing work.
Learning software isn't an activity, and is generally used for procrastination.
You just look things up as you need them.

>>3453286
Nah, wanting a robot for companionship is pretty much one of the most pathetic things I can think of.

>>3453287
To add on to this, /ic/ seems to have the same attitude towards drawing.
Top-Down thinking.
You don't need to know everything to draw, and it can be much more beneficial to look up certain exercises as you go along.
I think books are useful, but they can be harmful if they prevent you from doing what you love.

>>3453290
How do I go from 0 - literally can't draw anything tier to good animator

>>3453291
Jesus Christ, what a retarded question.

>>3453294
Why is it bad?

I was working on this scene of rainbow 6 recently, idk if I should finish it or not but it was fun. I like how ash turned out personally

I also made this beforehand. Idk how you guys feel about chickenscratchey drawing like this, I always heard it should be avoided artistically, that it is better to go for cleaner lines. I feel like it is slightly easier and faster to draw however, which is important for animation, and I feel like some of the roughness is mitigated by it being in motion? I'm probably just being lazy though haha

I also made this beforehand. Idk how you guys feel about chickenscratchey drawing like this, I always heard it should be avoided artistically, that it is better to go for cleaner lines. I feel like it is slightly easier and faster to draw however, which is important for animation, and I feel like some of the roughness is mitigated by it being in motion? I'm probably just being lazy though haha

>>3454515
fug it wont export at the right framerate

>>3454515
Context matters a lot.
Look at ballmasters.
Most comedy shows get pretty lazy with the animation.
That being said it matters more on a project to project basis.

>>3427285

I am filled with rage.

I'm buying the adobe creative cloud, and I noticed the "animate cc" application
How does this stack up against flash or other software

>>3455911
Animate is what they renamed Flash to. The pretty much added some tools, fixed up the brush mechanics, and some new textured paintbrush tool.

I'm in the market for a tablet that's going to work well for animation.

Price isn't an issue. What do you guys recommend?

>>3452731
It's a bit strange how her two earliest videos have much better timing and sense of momentum. And I don't think it has anything to do with her for the most part animating on lower frame rates here, maybe she didn't have time to flesh out the animation more? Probably.

>>3449138
love this, and the refrence

I made my first animation http://ecchi.iwara.tv/videos/9djjmfjyzczw9kmx

I was going to post webm, but it's with sound and I cannot into gif

>>3454505
THis is great.

>>3442705
Considering it's just rotoscoped, why would you?

>>3449010
Thanks to that video, I restructured my animation to fit better into twelve frames. I couldn't fix everything perpetually since I was on a time constraint.
I know the hair isn't the best, but I didn't want to overdo anything for the price point. Does anyone have any tips for animating that both cheaply and effectively?

>>3443796
i think i have a new hobby to study on top of everything else now :s.
thoughts on the motion? i know the anatomy is pretty fucked

>>3459159
I don't see any movement or details, there's nothing to judge.

>>3458413
>I know the hair isn't the best, but I didn't want to overdo anything for the price point. Does anyone have any tips for animating that both cheaply and effectively?
Plan ahead and think where and why is going to move everything you will move.
An example of your mistakes is what the other anon pointed out, as the tits are dragged up by the torso, should start moving up as soon as the torso moves down.

Testing some light effects (i really like hard color lights on colour art while leaving lineart alone).

>>3458413
The most important critique was fixing the jiggle physics. You should fix the animation before you even touch colors and details

>>3459159
These are just keyframes, but looks super interesting

>>3460477
The light should be a lil behind for it to do that

>>3460967
Yea i'll have the light position properly when I place it another test project (this was kinda thrown together right after I figured out how to do this effect). I really love the hard light effect in stuff like akira and I wanted to have a system of drawing a light mask that doesn't impact the line art to get that effect.

Should I scrap this or no? I'm trying to learn how to have two characters interacting

been studying anime animation but i can't figure out what these numbers are for does anyone know? i keep seeing them in the rough animation and they usually go up as the animation plays

>>3461556
top left number is 10
bottom right numbers are 7s
You are welcome.

On seriouse note, my guess is the top left is for camera and the a7,b7 is for the looping animation pattern
the 10 could also just be the number of the chapter from ping pong or something.

Ping Pong the animation was, or just looks rotoscoped, so it's not really good example of japanese animation in my opinion.

Better animated ping pong series is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0kPx-kXqo
Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume - Scorching Ping Pong Girls

d:-)

>>3461588
she has her knees over her shoulders. That cannot be Midna

>>3461620
lol its my midna. i changed proportions a bit to make her easier to work with.

>>3430405

I'd have used a little more follow through on the ears and paws

>>3461556
I'd guess that A refers to character frames and B refers to background frames. Or they split animations in different pipelines and naming them arbitrary, like character A, background B, object Z, SFX X etc. Idk, lol.

I'm looking for animation software that deals in raster graphics instead of vectors (flash and such). Any pointers?

I tried to use photoshop but it just way too heavy with features I could care less for and it runs kinda slow. Is there like SAI but with timeline + onion skin or something?

>>3461951

TVPaint is Raster as I recall. I've never used it though.

>>3461951
yeah you need tvpaint

>>3461646
that's cool, I like legs, so longer legs on midna are an upgrade in my opinion.
I still don't think knees would reach that far

Do you guys take short animation requests?

>>3461586
>>3461933
thanks for the help i think i get it now *gives a thumbs up*

>>3429164
Toon Boom Studio 7 and I always will.

>>3462215
May I ask, what is your request?

>>3427285
What takes longer, 2d animation, or 3d? I used to think it was 2d animation - really detailed 2d renders take time, of course - but looking at it, it almost seems like the other way around. Even if we don't consider the time it takes to make the models, which, since they're reusable, I'm not counting, you really have to fiddle with a lot of stuff very precisely to get the desired results (not counting rerenders and simulations), while in 2d, if you can draw a character, and if you're good at it, you can get a drawing out really fast. I guess environments are what would take longer.

So what do you guys think? Am I looking at things right? I mean, a lot of studios only do 3d now-a-days, but it's easier to find 3d animators than good 2d ones, I'd imagine, so maybe that's a factor? Am I looking at things right? Anyone with a bit more experience can fill me in on this?

>>3463171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFNLbAs3KAU
Snoopys happy dance with her instead

>>3463333
A talented 2d animator can animate at a really fast pace, especially if its in a loose style. Its faster, cheaper and looks better than 3D, the only problem is theres not many people who can do it

workin on an R/ for some anon at /aco/. Here's my first pass.

ref: https://i.imgur.com/YafGzSh.gifv

>>3463461
>animation request

Fucking why, that's going to take you days to get to look right and you're going to do it just because some cuck you'd probably hate irl asked you to do it? Have a little self-respect, man.

>>3463470
Fair point, anon. But for three main reasons:

1. Never tried it before.
2. I'm having fun doing it.
3. Doing freebies to get some samples up so i know how much to charge the cucks when i get around to opening up commissions.

And self-respect!? hahaha....one day, bro. One day.

>>3463470
could be a great training tho.

>>3463461
>Ref
At that point, why even bother?

>>3463478

You're clearly already good enough to be doing commissions but that's besides the point.

It's your work. You should be doing what YOU want with a character from an intellectual property that's currently in the public consciousness. No one gives a shit about Velma right now, think about characters people do. Maybe do a grown up version of Vanellope from the new Wreck It Ralph movie or a character from the new How to Train Your Dragon or "Mrs. Incredible" from the new Incredibles movie or some shit if you're looking to promote yourself. It's just good business sense dude.

Why not look at what video games are coming out soon? Peach, Rosalina and Daisy may have been done to death but they have pretty cute outfits in the new Mario Tennis game, don't they? I don't know man, do your research and make your own decisions. Doing all this work for this cunt will do nothing for you except get a (You) or (Two) when you could potentially get much (More).

>>3463502
You're 1000% correct, anon. Thanks for the words.

Thing is I'm so out of touch with what's cool/popular right now that I kinda lean on r/ to just give me something to do.

Thanks again, anon.

>>3463502
More Rhymes with Roar. Do some Thundercats shit in your style and have it prepared when it starts getting press again.

>>3463461
keep it up dude, got a twitter/blog?

>>3463826
Just twitter/insta/pinterest for now. If there's anywhere else i definitely should be I'd be happy to be schooled once more.

ktsxoxo.com

>>3463964
followed, cool stuff

What program should I use for raster based animation? Photoshop kind of sucks for it, but are there any alternatives? What do people use?

>>3433245
thats smooooth my man. good job

>>3463988
TVPaint Animation 10

>>3442705
what program do you use to rotoscope? how much time does it take compared to doing it traditionally?

>>3463988
>>3464015
this, there's not a lot of tutorials for it but it's a great program used by a lot of european animation studios.

>>3464015
>>3464047
So why is this so unsupported? How hard can it be to add a simple, usable, timeline to photoshop, for instance? Seems like everything now-a-days is vectors here, vectors there...

>>3463988
Clip studio paint is good.

>>3436884
>Barnyard as the picture of his farm
>Setting up incest jokes only to throw them away completely
>Entire crowd is the same rotoscoped black guy

There are millions of unfunny retards attempting this style of humor, and you are one of the very few I've seen doing it right. Please keep going and don't give up.

Bump?

Hello /ic/, I am simply wondering, at what point in my art career should I consider making animations, and are there any programs that allow frame by frame animation, or are there only toonboom/flash type programs out?

>>3464020
Unironically Gimp.

>>3466044
TVPaint is what you're looking for
Also animation and illustration share way less in common than people think, start animating whenever you feel like animating, no need to reach a certain level in illustration first

https://webmshare.com/nPoyL

started doing storyboard animatic for another R&M animation.

>>3466402
>>3466402
>>3466402
New thread