/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Tonight I've dreamed with DAD, it had a solid comments system and its own forum. Looked pretty cool and comfy.

Friends, we have a problem,we have very few users in comparison with original LAS, and not all the ones who get eliminated come back. How can we grow? how can we get the site more crowded?

honestly i'm about to drop dead just so i get mentioned

>>3426223
>tfw the more I get mentioned the more I just want to quit

>>3426221
Give people badgers for recovering from a broken streak.

>>3426221
The site doesn't need to grow. You need to grow. Draw More Art Daily!

>>3426221
If we grow more the sense of community will water down more and more.

>>3426221
Make a new photo and shill in other ic threads when new season starts.

>>3426221
Russian anon here, I can try to post link to DAD on local board (2ch.hk, iichan.hk). I guess a few people will show up, do you guys want to see more gopniks in this thread?

>>3426342
no one wants russians anywhere

>>3426348
How can you speak for everyone?

>>3426350
idk, how does putin do it?

>>3426342
>more channers
oh no

>>3426352
How would I know what's putin doing, I don't care about politics, but I guess better not post anything anywhere. Ok, got it.

>>3426356
Better than normal faggots dezu

>>3426359
thanks

>>3426359
Rip anon, don't get sad I like russians

>>3426235
don't encourage people to break their streaks for a badge

>>3426359

Good, I don't want no stinky commie ruskie's squatting the site up :^)

Hey guys, I made a challenge to draw a 1000 1-minute gesture drawings. Feel free to join ;^)

>>3426394
why only 1 minute?

>>3426394
son of a bitch

>>3426394
>16 hours and 40 minutes of non-stop gestures
R I P my working brothers

>>3426394
>the Cement Bad Habits challenge

>>3426394
>tfw last time I participated in a gesture battle it destroyed by hand
I... I don't know if I've recovered yet

>>3426394
>people cry through dab for the sake of completion
>this comes along and destroys that hope
>dab was for nothing
goodbye completionists

>>3426394
>>3426416
>challenge is 30 days
>1000 gestures each 1 minute
>at least 33 gestures a day, 33 minutes a day
pssh, ez

>>3426406
>>3426423
Oh I'm retarded this isn't actually that bad

>>3426394
>you only need one submission to earn the badge
easy peasy!

>>3426408
>the Hard Plateau challenge
>the Farewell to Gains challenge

>>3426431
kek

>>3426394
Yeah a waste of good drawing time and hand shelf life

>>3426438
>he can't spare half of an hour/day for gesture drawings
ngmi

>>3426431
>>3426394
>Streak based: No
>Postfrequency:None
>Score:1
lmao this should be easy

>>3426440
no point to that if it is not an involved focused exercise

>>3426460
it's gesture drawing you gollum, don't take yourself so seriously

>>3426460
Gesture drawing IS an focused exercise.
Seriously, go read some Vilppu.

Getting good at gesture is not only a matter of doing it all the time, but watching a professionals examples hundreds of times to pick up his/her stroke pattern and that can only be done in a class setting (or a close friend with too much time.)

>>3426487
>Getting good at gesture is not only a matter of doing it all the time, but watching a professionals examples hundreds of times to pick up his/her stroke pattern
I didn't know that - thanks for letting me know!

>and that can only be done in a class setting
Can't I just watch videos of pros doing gesture drawings?

>>3426500
>Can't I just watch videos of pros doing gesture drawings?

Yeah, that works.

>>3426368
You would only get the badge when, I dunno, another 50-day streak after you broke your streak.

>>3426521
This kills the completionist.

>>3426523
Exactly why we need it.

>>3426527
Y-You bastard!

Some notes for noobs. If you ask 5 people what gesture drawing is, you'll get 6 different answers because it's essentially visual note-taking and everyone takes notes a little differently. What it's not is a rushed figure drawing, and if you treat it that way you'll cement bad habits and have nothing but a blown out hand to show for it. It doesn't really matter if you prefer to rough out forms, look for lines of action, or jot down I, C, and S curves marking perspective of the body. But it's a lot harder to figure out what works for you if you jump from one to the next instantly, which lends itself to a mindless grind that I've gotten stuck in and seen plenty of other novices get stuck in. Do a few and then take a few minutes to evaluate them before continuing. Also do "slow gestures" where you give your brain more time to process whichever style you're aiming for before the actual 1-minute ones. I won't be taking part because 33 minutes a day for a month is way too long to stick to one time interval imo, but maybe not if you're drawing several hours a day.

>>3426532
post ur gestures tough guy

>>3426535

>bento
good job on that cat, that's the best cat, I love that cat. I'm proud of you

>>3426342
Do it cyka!

>>3426342
>>3426552
Go be russians somewhere else.

>>3426441
>>3426431
>>3426423
If it's easy, then why didn't you join the challenge yet, Anons?

Kirikae, I like your submissions. Cool dragon.
beachpacket, yours is pleasant, too.
Will, love the cel-shading layout(?) thingy.
bento, nice puffy pussy :3

>>3426560
tell me about your fears

>meme challenge
Stoooop

>>3426574
but anon, how are you going to git gud without challenging yourself?

>>3426580
1000 gestures in a month is about as challenging as filling a notebook with the same sentence

>>3426562
>>3426580
>not a single person has joined it
:D

We have to TRIBUNAL these challenges
where is banaboi?

>>3426585
Now there will be no completionists. Dark conspiries of a long forgotten badge...rumoured to have never existed...

>>3426590
BANABAAANANABANANAAAAAA!!

>>3426626

>>3426532
Good post

I have a serious problem with 1 min gesture drawings and it's that I end up getting invested in them and I keep going and turn them into a 40 min study

>>3426641
Gotta learn to stop yourself, dump em and move on to the next

how good are lassies at remembering?
http://opencoglab.org/memtest1/

>>3426643
Stop making us do tests taylor!!

>>3426644
I'm not taylor!

>>3426643
nah no thanks

>>3426585
That only makes the badge more exclusive.

>>3426706
>make challenge uniquely tailored to you and your situation so only you complete it and get your own badge

>>3426719
This has been the worst thing about challenges.

>waaah why are challenges hard?!
no pain no gain baby

>>3426728
join it laddie

>Do a 1000 1-minute (or longer) gesture drawings to get a badge.
>I asked "what should I do to draw as good cute girls as Dough"? And Dough told me to study Vilppu (especially his figure drawing DVDs) and Teal tutorials, so that's what I'm gonna do.
I'm sorry

>>3426761
a-aren't you happy, that I actually listened to your advice?

>>3426643
I wanted to do it, but I see weird rectangles instead of symbols and I don't know how to fix that.

>>3426773
remake the challenge

>>3426773
I'm just sorry for all the completionist out there

>>3426562
It's neither interesting nor challenging, even for a beginner.

>>3426564
Thank you, anon.

>>3426643
56, think that's ok. cba to try again, once is enough. What was the point of the questions after the flash cards tho..

>>3426783
>remake the challenge
To what?
I can't just ask people to study Vilppu - Banana said, that challenges that require you to buy/pirate stuff aren't welcomed on his site.

>>3426782
that's normal I think it's part of the thing

>>3426431
>>3426441
>>3426804
I just realized you don't have to do it daily or whatever, and you can just submit 1 submission with all 1000 gestures.
I guess if someone submits 1 thing and doesn't add up to 1000 gestures, then they'll get disqualified gentleman's agreement style like with the Mecha Challenge.

Although, who would bother counting up to 1000 lord knows how many times?

>>3426793
>It's neither interesting nor challenging, even for a beginner.
I think that sometimes gitting gud is about boring grinding.
After a while drawing from life becomes boring as well, but it doesn't mean that it's a waste of time. Same thing with learning how to draw straight lines from the shoulder.

But yeah, if you don't want an exclusive badge with a crab - uh, I meant Mr. Krabs - then sure, don't join it.

>250 boxe
>1000 gestures
c-can't wait to see what's next

>>3426827
>After a while drawing from life becomes boring as well
You lost me

>>3426719
>uniquely taylored
Hello plein air challenge

>>3426832
shhh

>>3426643
49.

>>3426828
10000 portraits

>>3426804
To something less retarded than 1000 1 minute gestures? Maybe put two seconds of thought into it and make it about a gradual escalation from 1 minute to 1 hour. 1000 gestures doesn't even relate to Vilppu.
There is no way you're inbred enough to actually think doing 1000 gestures in a short time frame is reasonable, useful, fun or worthwhile in any way.

>>3426842
>1000 gestures in a short time frame
Anon. You have a month for it. Half of an hour of gestures per day are just a warm up.

Sun here
looking for critique on my shadows on my image, I think they're really muddy but I don't know what I'm doing wrong

>>3426845
Yes, it's still a stupid challenge.
Drawing 10000 cubes wouldn't be hard either, it would just be tedious.

>>3426845
Half an hour consisting of 10x 30 seconds, 5x 1 minute, 2x 5 minutes, and 1x 10 minutes is a far better use of your time. You can do your 33 minute-long ones a day if you want, but it’s just a word of caution to the completionists who won’t do much more than that.

>>3426845
a warm up to what tho? i agree with the anon above.
It should be gradual. Maybe a week of 1min(30gestures/day), a week of 2min(15gestures/day), a week of 5min(6lay-ins/day) and a week of 10 min(3 figure drawing/day)
Heck maybe we can leave the last couple of days for 1x30min figure drawing or maybe leave these for all the weekends.
Or maybe in the first weekend could be 10 min figure drawingx2
second weekend 30 min figure drawing
third weekend 1h figure drawing
and last weekend 2h figure drawing.
Just throwing some ideas
Oh and lastly, maybe only banana should post challenges that are prearranged in the thread so we dont have to constantly modify them

>>3426852
Hot!

>>3426643
Scored 35 and I have mild autism according to that test from a few weeks ago. :(

>>3426870
ouch autistic and you don't even get the super powers

>>3426643

52

>>3426590
>>3426626
>>3426630

what's going on

There needs to be some rules for challenges.
DAB, plein air and 1000 gestures are all purely long term endurance challenges, nothing besides that is inherently challenging. It's fine to have challenges that drill a specific thing or stupid fun stuff like apple/Star Wars but take a second to consider if everyone can even participate in some of this stuff.
Some anons here probably have days where they don't get off work until it's already dark, how are they gonna do plein air for 30 days straight?

Long term challenges should either be result focused like the mecha challenge, allow for days off (like 20/30 for plein air for example) or cap out at 2 weeks max. We already have an endurance challenge in the form of DAD, we don't need "Do this specific thing I happen to be doing for 6 months" challenges.

I think challenges should be more akin to creative prompts than "do this exercise for a month"

>>3426881
>>3426894
You don’t have to do a bad challenge or one you don’t like, you dorks. Having mutually exclusive badges like for regaining a broken streak vs being flawless would be healthy for some of the nerds here.

>>3426911
B-But... my completionism

>>3426879
People are complaining about the latest challenge

>>3426643
44 wow I'm not good at this.

>>3426911
People should be encouraged to complete all or most challenges, otherwise challenges will gradually fade away until nobody does them anymore, like on DED.
DAD should be about learning to embrace any challenge in drawing, and for that purpose we must assure that all challenges are beneficial to the participants. More generally, challenging yourself is the core of getting better and feeling the need to participate in random prompts made by other people is a great way to do it.

The biggest flaw I see in this whole system is how a challenge is a passing event.

Why can't challenges be an archive people can attack whenever they want to. Maybe on a weekly basis, a challenge is manually chosen to be highlighted, so that many can participate it at the same time. There's literally no valid reason for challenges to be locked from day x to day y.

>>3426917
LAS challenges died because the site bugged out and 95% of people literally couldn’t make them anymore. I don’t even remember DED having challenges, if it did the community was already dried up and didn’t advertise them. The whole point of letting the community make challenges is to provide a marketplace of ideas you can pick and choose from to push areas you are interested in, not to force a least common denominator and make everyone join everything.

>>3426921
This is actually a fantastic idea.
The Hands Challenge could just always exist on the site and anyone who feels compelled to do it, can just submit whatever is required.

Some counterpoints:
This will not work for time-sensitive challenges such as Star Wars day.
It could detract from the feeling of everyone working on the same thing, although that might not be too bad judging by the DAB challenge. Some challenges may rely on everyone working at the same time, apple challenge had an optional requirement for drawing someone else's submission.

>>3426917
>otherwise challenges will gradually fade away until nobody does them anymore, like on DED.
same happened on LAS, it was the community that managed to get anons to bundle in, despite that, but there is no incentive otherwise

>>3426925
but then there will not be rare shiny badges D:

>>3426643
am i a bigbrain?

how about some challenges are timed and some aren't
why is this so fucking hard

>>3426643
44, harder than expected

>>3426933
average is apparently 36.3, so yep!

Maybe challenges should get automatically deleted if they don't have at least 10 participants?

It would be a nice way for quality control.

>>3426921
The challenges should be like a bounty board filled with wanted posters.

>>3426955
But those 9 people want to do it...

>>3426958
>>3426921

My primary concern with that is that eventually, we'll have a massive list of various challenges that might prove overwhelming for participants who want to do something. We'd have a long list of things like:

> Draw automobiles for a week
> Draw 1000 gestures
> Draw 5 mechas and their pilots
> Draw outside for a month
> Do a perspective study
> Spend a week on a single piece
> Create a mural
> Draw a complex object from various angles
> Draw food
> Slice the banana diagonally to increase surface area of slices
> Make a quick caramel by letting sugar melt in a hot pan
> Place banana slices in the caramel
> Deglaze the pan with dark rum, and serve on ice cream
> Do a value study
> Do a dramatic chiaroscuro drawing
> Do a self portrait
> Make a sixty second animation

And then the site effectively becomes an achievement hunting game, one that becomes somewhat difficult to monitor as well.
Moreover, working in parallel in something helps build a sense of community. It's hard to feel connected with other people if challenges are timeless. A lot of people right now are obsessed with completing every single challenge for the badges, but they really should just focus on doing the ones that they are interested in, will serve some benefit to them, or push them outside of their comfort zone so they don't stagnate.

However, this is all up for discussion. A redesign or expansion of the challenge system would require significant discussion and will come sometime after Patch 1.0.

>>3426959
Well, right now 5 people want to draw a 1000 gesture drawings, and yet there's a shitstorm here.

>>3426971
brb banana ice cream

>>3426973

At least the date could be pushed a little.

The way the future looks like now people will be drawing shitty fundies the next ten years without having a chanche to draw what they actually want kek.

>>3426643
45

Difficult near the end. It gets all fast and I couldn't use mnemonics because they were all types of weird symbols.

>>3426971
>> Slice the banana diagonally to increase surface area of slices
>> Make a quick caramel by letting sugar melt in a hot pan
>> Place banana slices in the caramel
>> Deglaze the pan with dark rum, and serve on ice cream
banana-kun revealing his stranger kinks

>>3426971
You could split them into (timed) challenges and (untimed) achievements. That way people can follow the achievements when they don't know what to do and challenges can be reserved for things that work better as challenges.
Album cover and mecha could be challenges, while plein air and gestures could be achievements.

I know this won't be possible until at least 1.1 or whatever, just a suggestion. There's a lot of challenges that have either appeared already or will be made in the future that are more predictable exercises everyone should do at some point, not really challenges. And if the site stays up for long enough, they will likely repeat at some point.
With an achievement system we can get those out of the way and force people to come up with more creative challenges that tackle both creativity and skill, challenges that people might now think to do on their own or specifically require community involvement. Maybe it's just me but "grind" type challenges are not really that challenging.

>>3426852
I think I looks ok, you can throw in some layers for lighting effects later and make it look even better. The head looks really detached though, it doesn't look 3d at all

>>3426971
Class option when?
>limited in size less than 15 people
>all focus on the same material
>only have to do it once or twice a week for 12-15 weeks.
>personal discussion group made for those in the challenge to discuss among themselves without bother from other DADs
>forced critique sheet for everyone to learn how to critique
>builds community and trust
>optional: project that is known at the beginning, but only has to be done by the end of the class to hone in all that application

>>3426993
>Class option when?

Will we be limited to magic-user, thief, cleric, and fighter, or can we pick something more exotic?

>>3426984
This
+
This
>>3427004

>>3426359
come back komrade

Official tier list integrated into the site based on anonymous votes when? Active daddies only

>>3427022
No one would do it because it takes forever to do it.

>>3427022
Can we not? LAS has become so complicated for a website that's literally made just to get people to draw on a consistent basis.

>>3427013
I'm still here, 4chan thinks I'm behind proxy\vpn for some reason.
Cкoлькo здecь pyccкoгoвopящих интepecнo (ecли oни ecть)?

>>3427026
I meant an automated system

>>3427040
Yeah, it would still take forever because each daddy would have to vote for each person and place them accordingly. Unless you mean, everyone vote who's the best in which case there will be a ton of zeros.

>>3426971
at some point I started feeling hungry

>>3427042
I'm an idiot. Yeah, I guess so, although you could limit it to flawless or 20+ streak and simplify the voting by rating each person individually rather than ranking them. Something as simple as pro/decent/beg (upvote, no vote, downvote) could be extrapolated into a ranking based on the number of votes, perhaps giving people the option to mark a few favourite daddies could also play into it

>>3426977
Nooooo

>>3427022
how about we prioritize quality-of-life updates to the site before jumping the gun on non-features?

just off the top of my head:
>tile-gallery view (banana confirms this is already underway)
>make the "submit" tab lead to the submit form, instead of the gallery, and a separate "gallery" button that leads to the gallery page.
>follow system - with follower counts hidden of course
>comments system
>ability to filter submissions of followed lasses to the top of the gallery

the second one is me being nit-picky, but i cant be the only one who's a little bothered by it

>>3426977
Not like I knew what I wanted to draw anyways.

>>3427038
lel

>>3427054
It encourages community. If you could just submit without viewing the gallery, then why ever look?

>>3427047
FUCK OFF LISTERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>3427059
that didnt stop people from browsing the gallery on the ded site

>>3427061
But DED also had the most recent submissions on the front page

What does practicing gesture drawings even do for me if I want to draw something original?

>>3427068
It's a mindset of seeing and also capturing down a drawing very quickly. Like that fleeting thought you have of something cool, you have to jot it down before it disappears from your mind.

>>3427063
you could always propose it as an idea, though the badge announcements would need to be condensed a little bit to keep the front page from becoming more cluttered

>>3427068
S P E E D

>>3427076

>>3427068
You are practicing gestures so you can more easily draw original poses. Long figure studies alone are not sufficient as you mostly learn how to draw a figure, not come up with a pose. You would need to do a lot more figure studies if you didn't do gestures to become really good, as opposed to doing both.

>>3427068
Flow, rhythm, energy, and all that, helps make your drawings less stiff, be it from reference or imagination.

Also helps build up a visual library of poses and get a better feel for the human range of motion.

guys i want to draw a comfy pic for my first /las draw, tell me what i should draw (its probably going to be a cute girl doing stuff, like sleeping or walking)

>>3427092
A cute girl doing stuff like sleeping or walking.

>>3427092
draw a cute girl doing stuff, like sleeping or walking

>>3427092
a cute girl doing stuff, like sleeping or walking

>>3427059
that makes no sense. basic functionality should be visible and available. and anybody that's into art would want to browse art in the first place. nobody's gonna "steal" views on a website used by 20.

>>3427093
>>3427095
>>3427098
thanks guys ill draw it now, thinking about is making my dick throb

>>3427092
maybe a cute girl sleeping ?

>>3427104
This. Or walking

>>3427104
>>3427106
Maybe sleep walking?

>>3427106
>>3427104
>>3427103
>>3427102
>>3427098
>>3427095
>>3427093
the guy was referencing a very old meme you retards

>>3427108
Only if it's a cute girl.

>>3427110
>not turning it into a new meme

>>3427110
>muh circlejerk culture
fuck it and fuck you

>>3427113
hello?

>>3427110
zzz

Remember to spread positivity.

>>3427110
You're a very old meme

>>3427123
i hate you

hey guys I just started my dad drawing, what did you draw today?

>>3427134
some geese at the nature preserve nearby me.

>>3427134
a cute girl doing stuff, like sleeping or walking

>>3427134
I don't draw today, I draw art daily.

>>3427123
I want to grab your wrist and roughly shove you into a wall.

nice mechs lately cath

>>3427143
hi Cath!

>>3427144
Don't do this.

Very cute whizzard

Hey guys, creator of 1000 gesture drawing challenge here.
I wasn't sure should I detele/redo that challenge or not and after thinking it over and reading your comments I've come to the conclusion that...

1000 gesture drawing challenge is here to stay.

The main reasons are:
- there are already 5 other guys who want to do this (I would delete it if nobody was interested in joining)
- yes, it's mostly an endurance thing, but I need to train exactly that
- there were people claiming that this challenge was in fact easy to do
- I don't see anything harmful in doing it
- bragging rights. Saying 'I did 200 gesture drawing' doesn't sound nearly as awesome as 'I did over a 1000 gesture drawings'

Your counterarguments were:
> it will create bad habits (>>3426408)
During the challenge you're supposed to study all Vilppu related materials that you have. Drawing gestures for 30 min/day is just a warm up followed by studying to make sure that doesn't happen.
> this kills the completionists (>>3426416)
Banana himself said that users shouldn't try to complete every single challenge there is (>>3426971), so I don't see a problem.
> it will destroy your hand (>>3426438)
I don't think it's a real issue. During the DAB challenge you were supposed to learn how to draw from your shoulder ;^)
> it isn't very challenging, interesting or creative (>>3426582, >>3426793, >>3426881, >>3426894)
Just because it's boring, doesn't mean it's a waste of time.
> it's not the best way to spend your time (>>3426856, >>3426859)
... I agree. After thinking it over and after reading your suggestions, I realize that's not the best, most efficient way to learn how to draw cute girls. But it simply wouldn't be right to tell those 5 other guys who want to do it, to forget about their exclusive badge.
I just hope that everyone who joins, will supplement those quick gestures with proper figure drawings.

Great work on your submissions today everyone.
Please keep working hard and it will pay off in the end.
Even if you think you aren't getting better, surely with hard work better times will come.

>>3427141
heh

>>3427147
>1000 gesture drawing challenge is here to stay.
OH NOOO

>>3427148
Why did you miss so many days, Thor, you were supposed to be here every single day.

>>3427148
>surely with hard work better times will come.
Y-Yeah
:')

>>3427151
>being a completionist actually has real power
Wew.

Good morning anon!

Can someone pin point flaws in my mecha?

>>3427157

>>3427148

>>3427158
it's shit, next!

>>3427158
Damn that looks good. The hand is facing the wrong direction though. Time to wikihow this.

>>3427110
you ruined the joke oldfag

>>3427157
Good morning Clover.

>>3427152
I am here every day, watching over the lassies.
But I don't do encouragements every day, it would get repetitive and I don't want it lassies to think I'm insincere.

>>3427172
cute!

>>3427142

>>3427147
>there are already 5 other guys who want to do this
>But it simply wouldn't be right to tell those 5 other guys who want to do it, to forget about their exclusive badge.
Don't come at me with that bullshit, you know joining is not an indication of "wanting" to do it or not, the allure of badgers is simply too strong, especially for the two completionists.

>>3427178
The badge is complete trash. Those two completionists should just give it up.

>>3427110
>the guy
We know it's you

>>3427181
It's fine. As long as they don't whine when 3 new challenges will spurt at the same time during their 1000 gestures.

>>3427186
Can we just have 3 new challenges now? Just fill it up so it's impossible for completionists to do it. Lets end it.

>>3427188
oh no no no no

>yfw badges were a mistake and Lava was right all along

Who are you favourites of the:
>digital artists
>traditional artists
>anime daddies
>western daddies

>>3427188
pls, have mercy, i have family, i have children!

>>3427203
you
re
moth
er

>>3427188
Brilliant idea. Bring some one shot challenges. start and end date tomorrow.

>>3427235
>start and end date tomorrow.
You can't do that for obvious reasons.

>>3427038
>(ecли oни ecть)?
Ecть.
Also why do you mix cyrillic and latin alphabet?

I want to start a new game, daddies... this one was fucked from the beginning...

>>3427253
what

I submitted my first /las piece, are you guys proud?

Loomis went on to work at Bethesda guys

>>3427337
Needs more loomis.

>>3427143
Thank you!

>>3427144
D:<

>>3427360
W-what

>>3427337
cute girl, why isn't she walking?

>>3427376
Because shes already sleeping

>>3427380
( ꒡ ◡ ꒡ )

23:30 CLUB MEMBERS HAVE WOKEN UP!

>>3427368
Read sticky.

>>3427380
>>3427384

>>3427396
I miss Stella.

>>3427399
we all do

>>3427346
kek

>lilramune doesn't come back
rip

Remember to stretch regularly and stay hydrated lassos!

>>3427430
Thank you Echo.

Remember that drinking 1.3L of water a day is plenty, you'll get the rest from your food/fat.
There is such a thing as overhydratation, keep an eye on your potassium.

>>3427431
I'm not Echo!

>>3427434
>overhydration
What

>>3427436
Technically it's named hyponatremia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia

>>3427346
underrated meme

>>3427437
>low sodium level
Yeah, good luck reaching that as a normal person

>>3427430

... and that, as much as anything else, lead to my drinking problem.

>>3427456
Drinking water still requires other minerals, while it probably won't cause some serious problem, they are wasted if you drink more than you need and can lead to mild deficiencies.

>>3427465
Give it to me straight, doc
How yellow should my pee be

>National Donut Day - celebrated in the United States
Why am I not surprised

>>3427092
Welcome aboard! I'd suggest a cute girl drawing a cute girl doing stuff

>>3427473
You should be because that's not a thing people care or know about. I didn't know about that. Don't even celebrate it either.

>>3427473
>tfw murican and ate 4 donuts yesterday

>>3427470
As yellow as your skkn

>>3427470
clearly tinted but barely.

>>3427486
I'm black tho

>>3427147
So before I join I want to clarify; this is one submission of 1000 gestures at any time during the month?

>>3427486
I'm white as snow

>>3427490
It's more like you can post your gestures any day as long as you reach 1000. It says you only have to post once because there's no known set number of submissions that could add up to 1000 gestures. It's based on the honor system that you finish. Not like anyone cares anyways.

>>3427489
uh oh

>>3427490
Doesn't matter, you can submit daily too, you just need to reach 1000 By June 30th

how do i force myself to draw

>>3427496
You don't. Ask yourself nicely to please help you draw then pick up a pencil and some paper. Once you've got your materials, get drawing.

>>3427496
Just
DO IT

>>3427496
Draw or I'll shove your pencil up your fngernail you little sSHIT.

>>3427500
HEY
no threatening lassies

>>3427496
I forced myself to draw everyday for several years. It's only fairly recently where I started to be ok with what i produce. it's not even a certain level of finish or technical skill that you need to achieve - its a feeling of being fully in control when you are drawing. When it's not there, it's barely rewarding at all.

Not saying you have to push through it - Just push through things if you're a masochist and like struggling. I certainly do.

>>3427496
Give me your DAD handle, I will berate you if you fail to draw
You're welcome

/las/ses are trembling in fear (◡ ◡ )

>>3426881
>>3426894
>Some anons here probably have days where they don't get off work until it's already dark, how are they gonna do plein air for 30 days straight?
1. See image.
2. Go draw or paint while you eat a sandwich during lunch.
3. Wake up earlier

>take a second to consider if everyone can even participate in some of this stuff.

Banana specifically made challenge levels to account for the fact that we are going to create things that are simply fun, or test you in certain ways. most everyone can participate in this, but some people will have to be more creative than others. I'm not into having days off for the plein air challenge, the challenge is in caring enough to break out your comfort zone and develop a stronger routine. I'll take those challenges over lax creative prompts anyday.


>>3426894
the latter gives you tools that make it so doing the former nets you an income.

>>3426832
ahh yes the situation of owning paper, drawing tools and the ability to walk outside the house with clothes on.

>>3427496
Add someone to discord as a friend. Call them up. Talk and draw. You will draw because you know that the other person is drawing too. Much less personal than screen sharing which is way weird.

>>3427496
I heard LAS had livestreams back then. Maybe we should start doing it again, it sounds like it could help with discipline

>>3427513
We did, we had a lot, but then discord

>>3427496
Quit the things you do instead of drawing.

>>3427515
Why would discord stop livestreams?

>>3427508
Having no days off doesn't add to the challenge, it just reduces tolerance for outside factors, which can severely affect your plein air plans.
I live in a big city. If this challenge was more lax on the posting, I would actually go out of my comfort zone and make trips to the parks, perhaps even work up the courage to go beyond a sketchbook.
As it stands, the length and daily requirement adds a significant amount of stress and commitment so I'll probably just draw whatever mundane shit I can see out of my apartment window.

Why is there a pre-teen in the discord?

>>3427519
people chatted in the livestreams, it's what made them fun
people took those chats to the discord

>>3427521
How come we can't make challenges like Banana can? Hobbyist, weekend, every business day, etc. You still get the badge, just different tiers. This would be helpful since more people can join and proceed accordingly to their own schedules. So people could just do plein air on the weekend and still get the badge, while there can still be people who do it daily and get the badge too. This sounds like a good compromise not just for this challenge, but future challenges too. Especially people who don't post daily and in different intervals.

>>3427521
Having no days off does add to the challenge, the challenge is managing outside factors, days off can make you lazy. I live in a fairly big city as well, I'm not sure what is relevant about that here. People can make it nerve wrecking, sure- but I've found if you just put earbuds on most people ignore you. Also people tend not to care about just sitting on a bench with a sketchbook. It's far different when you've got a full easel out on a street corner though.

>If this challenge was more lax on the posting, I would actually go out of my comfort zone and make trips to the parks, perhaps even work up the courage to go beyond a sketchbook.
You know this challenge doesn't start for 2 or 3 weeks right? Why not try it right now? Why sign up? You've got quite a lot of time before it starts to figure out how you want to make this doable and fun for yourself.
> the length and daily requirement adds a significant amount of stress and commitment so I'll probably just draw whatever mundane shit I can see out of my apartment window.
It's not my job to account for your inability to push outside of your comfort zone.

>>3427525
the compromise can be "follow the challenge alongside because it sounds neat and post to Dad but don't get the specific badge for meeting the requirements of the challenge"

>>3427524
Damn that's a shame, they seem to have hangouts occasionally, but I'm too intimidated to join the community.

How do you guys set up your streaming back then?

ROLLING GIRL! ROLLING GIRL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRMumWO9eb0

>>3427530
/las/ses would start a stream, link here, and a dozen+ /las/ses would hop in, and watch/listen/chat with each other and the streaner+draw
it was fun, we even had lava in the chat chatting away a number of times too
one of the streamers would have a movie playing in the corner
they were nice times

>>3427538
we could just link the hangout here- it’s not like it changes

>>3427552
Make a new one that doesn't involve discordians who already have history together.

>>3427528
There are plenty of outside factors you can’t manage if you’re not a NEET. Days off can’t make you lazy when you still have a set amount of submissions to make.
I am not looking for advice or feedback from you, I was telling you why the current setup detracts from what could otherwise be a novel undertaking for a lot of users here.
There is no problem for me, there’s nothing stopping me from just going to a park once a week and spreading the submissions out over multiple days.
What irks me is the current trend of making challenges tedious homework. One person can shit out 30 minutes of low effort posts for a month and complete the challenge while another can spend hours of honest effort every day but fail the challenge because they had to do overtime at work one time. There’s absolutely n o t h i n g wrong with taking a day off a specific exercise when we’re all drawing daily anyway.

>>3427563
Yes I understand that is your opinion but you should also understand people do not share this opinion.

>There is no problem for me, there’s nothing stopping me from just going to a park once a week and spreading the submissions out over multiple days.
Feel free to break the rules of the challenge for your 20 pixel badge on a small subforum challenge website?

>>3427525

I did not implement notions of different "tiers" of badges. Having a custom challenged have tiers would be somewhat excessive, and would compromise the integrity of an already confusing and arguably misused prestige values.

If there is enough demand for it, I may expand challenge creation to accommodate multiple badges, but I think abstaining from it simplifies the site and prevents people from going too crazy with it. I could be persuaded otherwise.

However, this sort of discussion will have to come later after I get all the core stuff up and working to a satisfactory point (Patch 1.0).

>>3427566
>Go ahead and break the rules for a stupid badge that's just pixels in the end
>I'm just going to belittle your point and make it look like I don't care instead of having an actual conversation even though I was arguing as hard as you
Damn, not the other anon but challenges are useless if nobody wants to do them. Making them more accessible and improving involvement would lead to a steadier health than a mindset of
>Why not try it right now? Why sign up? You've got quite a lot of time before it starts to figure out how you want to make this doable and fun for yourself.
>It's not my job to account for your inability to push outside of your comfort zone.
The real rewards are the gains you get from a challenge, not the mark of completion. Just like the real gains from any art school are the skills and connections, not the piece of paper at the end.

>>3427563
I agree with you, but I'd suggest making challenges with your considerations in mind and let the community decide which is more worth their time. The one you guys are arguing about and the gesture one both took the frequency and duration out of the realm of "kicking people out of their box" and into punitive autism, but the solution is to just leave them be and let the neo-topic-challengers hang themselves.

>>3427667
I like you, anon. Thinking about dropping out of the plein air challenge now.

>>3427612
>The real rewards are the gains you get from a challenge
That's my point exactly man, I'm doing 30 days of plein air because It's literally the best possible thing for me to level up artistically the badge is whatever. The point is to keep people accountable for whatever.

you need to realize there are people who are dropping literally every waking moment of their free time into art, and some challenges are going to be more targeted towards the people actually trying to break into the industry.

There is room for fun challenges just as there is room for stuff meant to hold you accountable into developing a routine, or learning to crunch.

MAKE SURE TO JOIN THE DONUT DAY CHALLENGE LASSOS

JOIN THIS SWEET AND DELECTABLE ONE-DAY BADGER

https://dad.gallery/challenges/18

>>3427612
>>3427748
to add to this, you honestly sound like some angry completionist or something... like why does it mater to you? I'm pretty sure there's a few people who are excited to push themselves in this way, otherwise we wouldn't have 26 people signed up for the challenge.

All I want to see from people is for us to really push out the comfort of our bedrooms and force ourselves to get out and observe the world, If 2-3 of those who complete the challenge end up really enjoying the whole ordeal and put plein air/sketching from life into their regular practice, then I'll be extremely happy with the results of this challenge.

I agree that the challenge is somewhat exclusionary, hence adding the ability to simply just draw outside. You bring up the idea of people working too much, but I find that to be an entirely moot point because once again, if you care enough you WILL find a way to do it.

The biggest thing I'm disappointed about is the fact that June is not the most optimal time of the year to be outside depending on where you live.

If you don't like it? Don't sign up. If you want a more inclusive challenge? Make your own.

>>3427748
I can agree with you that it's needed, but I disagree with it based on the community as a whole and previous badges. Banana said before that there shouldn't be challenges made for paid content, no matter how easy it is to get, because it excludes people. With all or nothing challenges, if you run into even a little bump because you have to work late or something it could kill your streak and the incentive is no longer there.
I really like the idea of the plein air challenge, but if you look at it no matter how many people sign up about three will drop the first day and then half will drop about a week in. Usually after someone drops they don't get back into it. If we had tiered rewards, stupid as it sounds, I feel like it would keep more people in the challenges and keep the sense of community up. They don't even have to offer different prestige, you can just have the borders change color.
>>3427756
>You bring up the idea of people working too much, but I find that to be an entirely moot point because once again, if you care enough you WILL find a way to do it.
>If you don't like it? Don't sign up. If you want a more inclusive challenge? Make your own.
I don't think there's a need to divide the community even more between hobbyists and careerists. I mean you can already see it in the art who is probably getting paid and who isn't. I like the idea of a comfy DAD, where everyone casually follows the same studies every now and then and learns from others. When you have problems in one area, you can pull up a wealth of examples from similar people doing the same challenge which I like. I want the site to grow that way, not how it is where it's all or nothing and people never recover after their streak breaks. Comment getting too long so w/e I'll stop rambling

>>3427552
Why don't you ever? You never fucking do.

>>3426719
Underrated post.

>>3427804
no i love your comment and agree
just a lurker though
i've not joined any challenges at all because i know i'd try to invest enough time into them daily to get something out of them, in which case i'd be excluded time-wise from working on anything outside the challenges. in this way i'd almost be forced to lower my effectiveness because at whatever point i've peaked in my understanding of a particular area of study and found it time to move on i'd be forced into the rut of keeping grinding and keeping grinding at something that's no longer the most effective use of my time, maybe for weeks.

so yeah i wholeheartedly agree that if users had more options to personalize challenges to line up with their most growth-inducing level of commitment, and showcasing this through the levels/border changes would be really awesome and in keeping with helping out with the bottom line of this site, 'get good,' quickly

there couldn't be a better post to outline the best possible setup to me that takes care of everyone on both sides of this issue than this one. great thoughts
>>3426984

>potatoes_spaghetti
>shading with black
ISHYGDDT

>>3427496
force yourself to force yourself to draw

>>3427862
where? haha
If its my last post It was almost entirely done with clone stamp, lassoing, and layer styles. If its the op image then yeee, my timer ran out before i was able to pull up the core shadows. I'm pretty awful at realistic rendering.
I don't really see that as a rule that must never be broken anyways.

>don't submit anything because I can't spend 30 minutes on something

>>3427862
where? haha
If its my last post It was almost entirely done with clone stamp, lassoing, and layer styles. If its the op image then yeee, my timer ran out before i was able to pull up the core shadows. I'm pretty awful at realistic rendering.
I don't really see that as a rule that must never be broken anyways.
Paintovers always appreciated!

>>3427840
>it excludes people.
This challenge is incredibly inclusive. Any argument made for this challenge can also be made to argue that "submitting daily to dad" is exclusionary? The only difference between the plein air challenge and submitting daily to dad, is that some people may have a harder time due to the weather, or because of anxiety.
>With all or nothing challenges, if you run into even a little bump because you have to work late or something it could kill your streak and the incentive is no longer there.
This is something that some people may feel but not everyone. I
>If we had tiered rewards,
I do think that's neat but that is a separate argument from the existence of this one challenge.
>where it's all or nothing and people never recover after their streak breaks.
all or nothing challenges are neat, I agree that they shouldn't be the only type of challenge but I disagree that they should never be a type of challenge.
> want the site to grow that way, not how it is where it's all or nothing and people never recover after their streak breaks
I would argue that the DAB challenge has offered far more companionship than the mech challenge

>>3427804
>forced into the rut of keeping grinding and keeping grinding at something that's no longer the most effective use of my time, maybe for weeks.
That's why we have the freedom to pick and chose what challenges we join.
>so yeah i wholeheartedly agree that if users had more options to personalize challenges to line up with their most growth-inducing level of commitment
This isn't something that needs to be automated though? That's just a normal practice that artists take to improve in their own direction. challenges are specific.

Its just a badge dudes! I could see these arguments having more substance if money or prizes were on the line.

>>3427538
Do you have a copy-pasta pastbin where you can find all those magic texts?

>>3427522
Slug was banned tho?

(1/2)

>>3427890
i'm >>3427840
>That's why we have the freedom to pick and chose what challenges we join.
>This isn't something that needs to be automated though? That's just a normal practice that artists take to improve in their own direction. challenges are specific.

i totally understand where you're at and am not sure there’s really any conflict between our preferences. because the main zone of contention i think you're feeling here is that for you to use the site best you work best with the extreme all-or-nothing method. other people seem to work better though with something a little more flexible, (so i think everyone in an ideal situation should be able to use the site as will best help them to improve the fastest, since we all have different learning styles, personal goals, life situations etc, you and me)
if we did have badge borders (you) could always exclusively mentally sign up for the top tier requirements for each badge as a goal-driven policy for example. simultaneously, others could feel free to set personal goals with an open setup that takes all levels into consideration to best suit their learning direction.

This is for the longer-haul challenges, like upwards of a week,
where badges lasting less than a week would be intuitively impossible or unnecessary to have split up into tiers, so would stand as is. it’d be great if we had the option to tier a badge on creation or not with the community in mind, (if for example its subject is specific to the creator’s own needs, and inflexible enough to ask too much grinding of one thing for those not as in need of the creator’s own dedication to their own specific goals.

(2/2)

as an aside/example, my reason for liking the idea of badge tiers isn’t a lack of dedication or even rl, it’s to best facilitate my learning efficiently. (while I'd like to join all the current challenges i mentioned, it would hold me back to invest so much time in something i already have pretty much down, but would benefit me if I could set myself a level of work that'd be a doable reinforcement to what i already know.
to expand a little, i did the draw a box lessons when i was younger and also a great number of gestures over the years, but more are always good, same with hands and plein air, but i'm hopeless in other things, (and can't make new badges for specifically my own blind spots because so many challenges are active now that any more'd swamp the people interested in collecting them.)
that is, current longer-range/serious badges are sharply focused on grinding specific things i’m pretty familiar with, so none of them would help me as they are since they’re set up ideally for someone at the stage of being unfamiliar with the subject (a point at which they might best be helped by such a default endless time of grinding.)

and so the age of completionists is coming to an end..

>>3427978
Finally!

>>3427974
My counterpoint to this would just be that specifically the plein air challenge is so open ended you can likely find training for any fundamental while you're out and about. I could agree if it was all painting, but with the inclusion of just allowing drawings you would have to try pretty hard to not get anything relevant out of the activity. Can I ask what subjects you're looking to improve on that don't work in line with plein air studies? I'm actually super curious.
I hope there is a challenge you feel more willing to participate in!

>>3427897
Wat

>>3427978
Why did completionists scare people so much that they would go to these lengths to utterly eradicate them?

>>3427999
really makes you think

>>3427999
They thought they attained the highest prestige possible by being flawless day oners but then some anon made that "The Complete" picture.

>writing walls of text instead of drawing

>>3428015
the completionists raped my mommy and force my daddy into slavery

>>3427984
my biggest blindspots are the specifics of the muscular and skeletal systems / the ability to recreate, the technical knowledge, and the recognition by name of each muscle and bone in the body. I learned this once in my lifedrawing classes but it only went into my short term memory, so now I've lost it. it's almost worse actually since i remember only how much information there was, so am aware of just how much I don't remember.
That's actually what i was working on fixing before dad came along actually, and i got distracted drawing more ic and dad-friendly subjects.
it makes me realize if i sign up for something that'll last a month when i have a few glaring issues, if i'm honest with myself i'll be using my time ineffectively even if it's fun.
if you're the creator of the plein air badge, i 100% agree with you that you could make it loosely fit almost any subject. just for me though, it would be much more effective if i buckled down and learned the technical stuff, but it'd be fun to also participate around the edges if the badge allowed for this for a fun strengthening of my learning experiences so far, same with every badge i see there. i really want to do them all for fun. i wish humans didn't need to sleep.

>>3428017
FEEEEL the argument
FIND the Line of Reasoning

>>3428020
Oh neat, yeah those for sure seem to be one of the major areas this doesn't help. One question though:

Why do you feel you need to know the names of every muscle and bone in the human body? You can always print out a cheat sheet for that. I totally understand learning the benefits of learning to draw skeleton and muscle insertion points, but that type of specificity to memorize is an interesting goal.

>>3428017
Existence of girls on this board proven without posting tits.

>>3428019
slavery in the mines of DAB

>>3428029
It is widely known that the only other board with more girls is /cgl/

>>3427940
susi plz

>>3428044
susi doesnt browse the threads senpai

>>3428046
hmm

>>3428015
i wanna pound myself

>>3428025
i've heard a lot of experienced and old school pros candidly/casually mention a muscle here or a bone there that i only vaguely remember the names of, when doing longer critiques of young people's work. (i'd just flounder and point.) it seems the seriously seasoned pros have this tucked into their libraries along with all the other fundies. it feels like one of the least essential for the things i'd like to be able to paint, but since it's the thing i'm far and away the shakiest on, i know i've got to buckle down since i like realism.
the main thing about the names by the way is each name'd be like a mnemonic for remembering that that muscle exists there. then that'd recall its shape etc. they could as easily be numbered or alphabetized, but then i'd always be short if they came up in conversation, and the names themselves make it easier to remember where's what, like anterior posterior dorsal ventral and all the other latin bases.

>>3428056
jerry, please

>>3428015
who are your top 3 completely flawless?

>>3428062
my harem of bunnyburger, srion and jeremias

>>3428062
They are mostly all pretty lame. It's certainly due to the completely flawless syndrom.

>>3428066
>mostly
e-except me right?

>>3428070
They're all pretty lame except for you, you're EXTREMELY lame.

>>3428070
Yes of course.
Don't read:
>>3428072
It's probably slug jelly.

>>3428075
Your mom is slug jelly.

>>3428078
Mom, stop coming to this chinese macrame image gallery. I'm ill-at-ease now.

>>3428090
You should stop playing with these kids, son, they're a bad influence.

>>3428093
Gib milkies

>>3427978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E2hYDIFDIU

>>3428059
ohh, yeah that's an admirable goal then! Are you shooting to work in the industry?(or already working I should add)

>>3428020
Try lifting anon-kun, when I got into it I memorized most of the muscles because I was always looking up lifts to target places exrx.net has an exercise directory under muscles names

>>3427568
Maybe to please both sides we keep challenges in it's current state and add a category called "events" which are less for the challenge and more just a fun limited time theme. (like May the 4th) Then you could have "events" have the less strict submission rules, while keeping the challenge of challenges.

Holy, bump limit in one day

>>3428128
Thanks! I've done a bit of random freelancing for companies events and private individuals but I'd love to get safely tucked away somewhere more permanent, soon

>>3428143
Oh hey I listened to a documentary once where an excellent traditional painter who was really into fitness talked about exactly this. What a cool idea. Lifting's probably the only sort of exercise I haven't yet gotten into over the years, so guess I'm overdue. Thanks! I'll check out the link

jesus finlay take better pics

Daily reminder you're
NEVER
gonna
make
it!~

>>3428200
ngmi-chan a cute.

>>3428200
nooooooo

>>3428200
urgh, wtff, my gains... are disappearing!?

>>3428200
Actually I think this is the strongest I've ever felt. Clearly I am making it.

don't you guys hate it when you get a boner just when you are at your most productive?

>>3428245
a good 80% I ignore it and just keep drawing.

>>3428245
>having a penis

>>3428200
I'll make it! And not only that, I'll bring you with me!

>>3428259
hidden end route, everyone makes it!

>>3428259
Thank you Santi!

>>3428263
I'm not Santi!

>>3428263
>>3428266
What ever happened to santi?

>>3428245
>hold urge
>draw your submission
>grant yourself fap afterwards as a reward
good conditioning

>>3428268
She made it. Glorious Santi.

>>3428274
w-wait, but santi's a man

>>3428273
>draw
>look forward to finishing so you can fap
>condition yourself to want to rush through drawing to masturbate
try this
>fap
>grant yourself draw afterwards as a reward

>>3428273
>hold urge
girl detected

>notices vistorf's submission
OwO whats this

(df is good game u have excellent taste)

>>3428276
You've been fooled by her selfportrait. Sorry, she will never cheat you again.

Pee

>>3428285
thanks daddo, feels good to be noticed.

>>3428290
mama

>>3428297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ

>>3428297
>>3428319
ooOOOooo

>>3428323
I DON'T WANNA DIE

>>3428319

Obligatory?

Did Axalalal just rotated and copied his pathetic 2 pages of drawings to make it look like 4 pages?

Tribunal when?

>>3428376
n-nothing to see here off/ic/er!

>>3428376
top kek
good catch

>>3428376
kek

>>3428376

>>3428376
Excellent. She doesn't deserve to be tribunal'd.

>>3428376
That's so sad... I mean, it's okay if they were busy and didn't draw much, but making it look like it was more pages...

>>3428376
BANANAAAAAA

>>3428396
nah the sad thing is that no one noticed so he had to out himself

>>3428406
wew

I hope my qt girl gets a nice friend.

>>3428417
>qt girl
hmm? owo

>>3428200
I'll make it then draw you getting ripped apart by giant angry crabs

>>3428376
Hahahahah

>>3428417
>I hope my qt girl gets a nice friend.

Will, you have inspired me. I will take up your challenge. Let's see what we can do together!

>>3428460
>not marrying her and raising a family together

>>3428460
hot

>>3428460
>getting ripped apart by giant angry crabs

... if he can survive the dual AC/20's, that is!

>>3428491
Cool tin can, already cropped, you are the best.
Stolen for the mecha challenge, thanks!

>>3428491
>jump jets behind you, cores you
heh nothing personal kiddo

>Bento
Hearts can deceive. Words can deceive. But eyes you should trust.
>Sofie
If your heart is broken, make art with the pieces.
>beachpacket
Your studies are like big macs, it never looks like the ref picture.
32-16-34-26-15-37
>tekkyJSKURT
Drawing is pretty simple:
You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works.
You do more of what works.
>Pawn
Do not order fries with your club sandwich.

>>3428508
>Cool tin can, already cropped, you are the best.
>Stolen for the mecha challenge, thanks!

If borrowing mechs and pilots were allowed (someone already shit all over me for that) in the challenge, my entire slate of entries would be nothing *but* homages.

>>3427940
Knives
(Not to be confused with Sknives)

>>3428632
Post blog of both (inspection day oblige).

>>3428633
>inspection day
oh no

>>3428636
Yes mate, it's exactly this day. Drop your pants and show your blog.

>>3428640
That reminds me, didn't someone say they were gonna post a list on the weekend?

>>3428633
Knives doesn't have a blog.

Sknives is Agemo.

>tfw your getting good

>>3428650
Danke!
>>3428648
That's true, but she doesn't deliver. It's OK we have a ranking for the flawless.

>>3428660
I don't know that feel

>>3428660
Post your cup of tea/coffee study!

>>3428662
>she
Is everyone a girl now?

>>3428665
You are getting very good, anon.

Good morning anon!

>>3428681
noo i sleep for longer =3=

>>3428681
Good morning Clover.

Your stuff's pretty great mrpurin

>>3428681
Good morning!

>>3428681
5 more min dad

>>3428681
>>3428694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwSra5p8MDw

>>3428674
No, just the one who talked about the list but didn't deliver.

Those are not chests lolbuns D;

>all those big chests
real lack of flat chest representation

>>3428706
kek, lolbuns is creative.

Really like your 43rd chest lolbuns

>>3428729
I mean 42nd. I got confused by the labels.

>>3428648
This. Where is tHE LIST??

>>3428633
>blog
Knives doesnt even draw
its just some toddler another lasso invited

>>3428740
we've been saved from the nightmare of lists! no more lists, forever!

>>3428740
if you have under 9 badges you are in the laughable tier.

>>3428742
>Knives doesnt even draw
>its just some toddler another lasso invited

She hasn't been the same since Scott broke up with her.

>>3428752
but there arent even 9 badgers ;_;

>>3428742
>Hey guys I'm depressed
>I want to draw today but I'm depressed
>Too depressed today to draw
the discord culture as a whole is pretty annoying. the thread culture kind of is too

>>3428765
Then do something about it instead of being a depressing faggot.