/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

How do you guys draw sprites? I tried drawing one and I got so lost, like I can't tell what should go where.
I tied looking for tutorials but most of them are focused on PS while I'm on graphics gale

*SlitherHen*

>>3407904

>>3407773
There was one couple of weeks ago,they seem to die pretty fast here.
>>3407904
>>3407909
Cute.

>>3408086
>There was one couple of weeks ago,they seem to die pretty fast here
How sad, the ones we had were fun

>>3407773
Where does one start?
Drawing naked anime girls and then trying to sprite them?
Just spriting random shit until you're Paul Robertson tier?
Also, outline or no outline /ic/?

>>3409162
>Where does one start?
What experience do you have in other forms of art?

>>3407773
Copy and pasting

# TOOLS
http://graphicsgale.com/
https://www.getpaint.net/
https://www.aseprite.org/

# TUTORIALS
https://lospec.com/pixel-art-tutorials
http://pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24744
Of course, learn how to draw >>3379237

# COMMUNITIES
http://pixeljoint.com/
http://pixelation.org/

# SOME (twitter) COOL GUYS
@Fleja2003 @Fleja2003 @Fleja2003 @cyangmou

>>3409190
Can do basic stuff, like bodies and perspective, but I just can't make a few pixels look decent

pixel art isn't art

>>3409198
>Can do basic stuff, like bodies and perspective, but I just can't make a few pixels look decent
Hmm... post work and something can be said
Or simply look at tutorials

>>3409206
Tried to make a simple sandwich yesterday, didn't really like how it turned out
Image is upscaled, original is 16x16

>>3409209
That's alright, what concerns you about it?

>>3408831
Yeah, hopefully this one does not die as fast.

>>3409162
I started last month, so I most likely should not start giving tips, but for me, it was helpful to start with a subject that I was familiar with. It is a method I generally use, when I start with a new medium. As for outlines, it depends.
>>3409209
I agree with this anon.>>3409214

My friend gave me some feedback on this bot, specifically he mentioned the noisiness of the antennas. From what I googled around, placing another row of pixel to form the antennas would maybe fix the noisiness?

>>3409245
Here I tried to "fix" the antennas.

>>3408831
Yeah, hopefully this one does not die as fast.

>>3409162
I started last month, so I most likely should not start giving tips, but for me, it was helpful to start with a subject that I was familiar with. It is a method I generally use, when I start with a new medium.
>>3409209
I agree with this anon.>>3409214

My friend gave me some feedback on this bot, specifically he mentioned the noisiness of the antennas. From what I googled around, placing another row of pixel to form the antennas would maybe fix the noisiness Or maybe I should just drop the outlines?

>>3409250
Here is the "fix".

The answer to all your pixel art problems is simple:

Learn to bloody draw first.

>>3409251
Looks good anon

>>3409266
But drawing at a really tiny scale is hard

I need a pixel artist for a game I'm creating. I can pay up front before work is rendered.

If you're interested, email me or just reply.

>>3410369
Could I have some infos on your game? Also would that job be permanent or would you just pay once and then we would never cross paths again? (I'm asking because I'm searching for a little permanent income source) Gif is from an opening scene I'm currently working on for my game.

>>3410369
Beside drawing art that is focused on silhouettes (Like the horsie scene) I'm also into drawing scenes that have a more defined color pattern. Pic is also btw not finished.

Not
>>3410369

but there's this one guy that would post here once in a while that had some really sick ass pixel art, does anyone know that guy's blog? He said he wasn't able to continue doing it because he was too busy (sad!) but his work was pretty impressive.

>>3410396
>>3410411

It would be semi-permanent. Game is axonometric, similar to Hyper Light Drifter. Simple pixel art with simple environments. It is an an action oriented MMO.

>>3410431
Well you must have some other guys around you then. Building an MMO is really hard work as a solo dev. (especially if it would be your first game). I'm certainly interested and I'm looking forward to send you an email with my contact details but I hope you got some back up on the programming front.

>>3410447
It's not my first or my team's first game.

>>3410457
That is good to hear.

>>3410465
As I said, pay for artwork would be upfront - so even if we failed to create a successful game, or any game at all, you would've already been paid anyway.

>>3407904
Not to be mean or anything but the body on yours seems a little uneven, especially compared to the official art.
>>3407909
Cool like the eyes a lot

>>3409881
Thanks anon

>>3409881
Is there a quick and dirty way of getting that dither effect?

here some enemies i made for fun.i am not sure to understand how to make sel-out or any aa at all.feedback and tips on that would be great

>>3410457
let us know when your first game that has somebody that can actually do fucking art is

>>3410751
They look really good anon, are those in the right camels?

>>3410765
thank you and yes they are

>>3410751
These are nice anon.

>>3410741
Dither a small portion by hand and copy paste that horizontally

>>3410753
what did he mean by this

What do you think, dad? It's my first thing in pixel art and I did it in about an hour.

have you guys good tutorials on how to make tilesets?

>>3407776
pls respond

>>3411903
i use aseprite so i dont think i can be useful but what do you mean you got lost?what are you trying to do?

>>3411910
It's I made a blob and I have no idea where should I put the details, I'm only seeing a blob and that means I'm missing something in the process.

>>3411924
>i am only seeing a blob
yeah thats your huge problem right there you fill the insides with details you can see from the start and then polish/edit the result.a quick example.if you still have question feel free to ask

>>3411937
I see, so I if I want to make a detailed character I should start with an outline?

>>3412315
if using the outlines works for you is totally fine but in my case i used the outline in the second drawing just to show what i could see in the silhouette on the left.i am not that good with words so i will try again if in a blob you cant see something in a cool pose or with good details already in just erase little bits of it until you can or erase everything and try again.

for example on the left i can see a huge ship/spaceship in a foreshorted view but on the right cant see jack shit

>>3412331
Okay, I see how it goes, thank you.
I'll try to restart my work this weekend.

I made these characters today. Please give me your real critique. I'm brand new to doing drawn artwork of any kind and I have complete aphantasia which probably doesn't help.

Do these characters all look the be in the same perspective? I'm sure I fucked up the shading. Please don't critique it if you don't actually know anything about art though.

>>3412749
They look nice anon, try doing some sprites with a smaller canvas like 32x32 or 16x16

Does anyone have Aseprite for Linux that they'd like to share with me?

>>3412889
I just discovered it is open source, never mind.

>>3412749
>Please give me your real critique
you asked for it
>not defined limbs.1px legs and arms meme
>straight ramps
>pure black
>no aa
>I'm sure I fucked up the shading
yep your shading makes no sense
>Please don't critique it if you don't actually know anything about art though.
i think at your level even a layman could help

basically go watch or read some basic tutorial on how pixel art is done

>>3412893
Thanks dad.

>>3412893
>1px meme

Not him, but that meme has been included in tons of very successful games. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is actually bad.

>>3412901
two can play that game anon,just because is in a tons of successful games doesnt mean it's actually good.

>>3412897
http://pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11299

>>3412933
This is great, Thanks anon!

>>3413015
i am a great dad now say you are sorry

>>3413019
SORRY DADDY!

>>3412749
What >>3412893 said, mostly. In addition, with pixel art there are some things that aren't really conducive to being drawn, at least not without being abstracted away a bit. The chainmail on the two right figures, for instance, just doesn't work, especially not with the darker color on them being that brown shade. Either figure out something else they could be wearing or find a less jarring way of showing that they're wearing chainmail.
There's also a lot more that could be done with what they're wearing; right now it's very blobby and flat, when stuff like cloth folds or different segments of armor could be brought out.
But yeah, what the other guy said; get some more practice in.

>>3414288

>>3414290

>>3414296
I recognize this where is she from?

>>3414666
artist is Sayosa and probably i save it from his gallery

>>3412893
I would also like a serving of real critique. These are me: >>3408086 >>3409250 >>3409251 >>3410735 >>3410971

>>3414288
>>3414290
>>3414296
>>3414732
Berry nice.

>>3415217
you have the same issues the other guy has:
-pure black outline
-no AA
-no highlight or core shadow,cast shadow way too dark
-you dont clearly show forms
-banding (hole in the cat house)
>basically go watch or read some basic tutorial on how pixel art is done
i would suggest the same to you but you showed some will to improve therefore pic related is how i fixed some of the issues you had in one piece of yours,case 2 is just to show how i made the cat house structure less boring(my personal opinion).A lot more can be done even at this level but i lack knowledge to improving it futher.

plz

>>3415970
Shit anon, this is great! Thank you for going so out If your way to help me. I will start looking up some tutorials and get better with The basics!

>>3416077

>>3415970
>saying "pure black outline" like it's a bad thing
man, it must be nice to be this fucking ignorant
yeah yeah you read three lines from a book and heard people better than you say something similar but you are misconstruing it to such a laughable degree
here
here is me laughing at you
hahaha

>>3416098
Way to be condescending with no attempt to prove your point. Every other anon is surely laughing alongside you.

>>3416583
there's a certain level of ignorance that it isn't worth arguing with, and >>3415970 is far beyond that point

>>3416661
And yet his edits are a big improvement. You just look like a shitposter right now

>>3416711
if you think the fucked up shadows that they attempted on their edits is an improvement, then you only have my condolences

>>3416720
His edits are the ones on the left side btw. If you're not going to elaborate on anything, then you're a waste of time.

>>3416745
>His edits are the ones on the left side btw
I know

i tried making a knight. what do you guys think? i took references for the helmet and the shield but tried to make my own out of it

I literally don't even know how to get started in pixel art.

Finished this recently.
Is it better with the black outline, or without?

>>3417382
With. But that's the least of your problems, drop the pillow shading

>>3417382
Without.But that's the least of your problems,those jaggies can cut the titanium

>>3417382
I like the top row. But it's a subtle difference.

>>3417382
It's a very minor detail on the whole, and the whole needs more fundamental work.

>>3417382
I don't care, but that's the least of your problems. Why are you making sprites for characters from a one-shot April Fools joke?

>>3416509
This is nice

beep

>>3417693
>223 colours
nice!why not 5000

>>3417769
Ah ye my dumb ass had been using paint tool sai for everything lmfao, always ended up with a million colours on my shit from moving pixels around. Recently stopped using it for pixel art though, thank god

Can y'all critique this
The fat black chick is a player character
I'll follow up with an edit a kind anon did that I really like

>>3417802
I've already been made aware of the shared tangents with the truck, street light, and building

>>3417804
Tell that anon to shove it. Adding FX layers to pixel art is the worst indie shit. Regardless, t's a really bland art style as-is. It needs more details.

>>3417811
The right side I haven't finished, but is the left lacking in detail? I thought it was good desu
I can't go crazy every scene, because I code and draw everything myself but I'm not looking to make passable good enough shit

>>3417824
I meant more in relation to shading, but if that's what you're doing then you're probably on the right track. When you are shading though, don't use colors that are just darker versions of the object's main color. The window pains and pole for instance could do with having shadows that are slightly more blue. You get more for less that way, which is really good for pixel art.

>>3417802
>>3417804
>>3417824
fucking lol
and people wonder why pixel art threads don't last around here

>>3417840
thanks, that's really helpful
i also found pic related and I might start over
>>3417842
what did he mean by this?

>>3416509
bery nice

Any anon(s) wanna collab and make a simple pixel art game?
My pixel art sucks, but I can do the programming
Pic related not mine

still working on improving own fundamentals on anon's cathouse and i hope isn't a problem for him.sadly i created some sort of banding on the tube because is the only solution i could found to show thats a cilinder

>>3418814
It looks great anon

>>3418814
I really like your color choice. Right stands out as its own object, while left kinda looks like it would blend into the background more.

>>3418780
If you don't already have anything particular in mind I'm working on something with another artist right now and our would-be programmer had to bow out due to personal problems, the only caveat is that, while pixel art will be featured in certain scenarios, the game will mostly be traditionally animated and animated through programmed physics behaviours, so it depends on how dead set you are that it be a pixel art game.

If you want to talk about it email me

propanestyle@gmail.com

>>3418814
the random ass shadows keeping getting more and more fucking random
dude read up on some loomis instead of deviantart color guides

Here’s my most recent one

>>3418780
I do!
Here’s my portfolio. Have contact?

>>3420054
Nice sprites anon
alonsolop255@gmail.com

still hunting for those (you)s i see,quite patethic.haven't you a whole general where you can spam "loomis" and get away with it?

>>3420416
are you autistic

Keeping this thread alive

An old work I got some help with in another thread.

>>3422365
a very solid piece right there,post your new stuff too maybe we can learn a thing or two

emergency bump

realised only today that i can do pixel art on photoshop- it's very therapeutic so far

>>3422637

I dont have that many finished pieces, but this is something I'm currently working on.

>>3420054
A lot of these look like you mashed some new gen Pokemon together
My opinion, not a critique

>>3424479
looking great anon,what's trick to draw cluster that good?mines always look like shit

I'm as slow as ever. I've narrowed it down between the top and center one.

>>3425104

Pixel art has a lot in common with painting. Mostly form based fundamentals. Study form, light and shadow. Clusters is just using blobs of color to describe from. Don't stop studying the fundamentals and trying to apply them. Rocks and basic shapes make for good practice.

This video is a good introduction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPz8Xyt3z-w

After you figure out how to describe the form, the rest is just cleaning the blobs the same way you clean lines.

>>3417382
mmm now thats some soft pillows right there

>>3426422
center one has the best framing

So I've never seen any pixel art communities talk about this.
Artifacting, was a big deal for some older machines but modern pixel art neglects it completely, why tho?
Pic related is an example of what can you archive if you do it right.