/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3416432
god i wish that were me

>this thread again

>>3416432
>merc wip

Just draw lifeless figures and a bunch shit of textures.

>>3416460
What is a figure full of life?

>>3416469
Fighting Game artist in general are great at this, but Takuji Kawano in particular stands out as a true master of drawings full of life.

I feel the goal in a piece should be to draw it like you are capturing a moment in time, rather than treating it like a photo shoot in the OP.

I'm not sure how much of the RJ worship is shitposting at this point.

He's skilled and I like a few of his pieces, but I find his palette has been getting uglier and uglier, especially with these weird pink haired girls.

>>3416475
lmao

I bet rj felt great knowing that regardless of his low effort there would be some idiots praising him

>>3416505
Is it just me or does it look like he overworks tiny details to the point that it looks like Jpeg compression?

>>3416432
how does one ever achieve this level of stale, boring, dead stereotype bashing. zero appeal.

>>3416475
>I feel the goal in a piece should be to draw it like you are capturing a moment in time, rather than treating it like a photo shoot in the OP.
very good point, and good example illustration. it seems like character design and game art has declined and been washed out by mediocre shit artists and also copycat artists that rip off pretty much everything that has been established already like OP pic.

>>3416528
>overworks tiny details
I've read about this approach and there's a term for it that describes it perfectly: it's called "polishing turds"

Details are just details, there are more important things to learn before so you don't have a dead figure left, although with lots of details. More in digital art that is doesn't have much grace when you can zoom in, in traditional it is understandable to see how far you can reach with the instruments. Although it should not be confused, I do not discredit this type of work, but the details are done by retouching over and over again the same area, if the base is good, putting details is not complicated with patience. At the end, all you need is patience and know how to do/copy textures (even though the image of the OP is not a good example of textures)

>>3416475
Fair point. You win this round.

>>3416642
the thing with masturbating over details is that it rings mostly with normie assholes. the first thing normies appreciate is the amount of work, the time spent, the details … their judgement of artistic quality doesn't go beyond that most of the time. no idea about composition, artistic novelty, expression, ambiguity, quality in general. most of the time, the praise that comes from normie cunts is "oh that's so detailed! / that looks like so much work!" … the popular shit. the kind that you occasionally find on 9gag. the photorealistic illusion drawing crap. it's pretty much on that level.

OP pic is completely generic, basically has the appeal of a character selection screen: completely functional, dumb, upfront, sterile.

>>3416432
boils down to a zombie bitch that you look at for the tits and hinted pussy, kitsch light situation, autistic amount of detail (as usual). has nothing else to offer, basically on par with a toilet joke.

>>3416666
>kitsch
here we go again with that word

>>3416678
here we go again with that broing lame ass RJ dicksucking!

tell me, when are you ever satisfied? does it make you feel warm and loved to see that some other autistic little kids agree with you on liking RJ? does it make you feel loved byproxy? how fucking pathetic are you, Nambo?

It's another Asian worshipping thread.

>>3416469

lol anyone in this thread trying to knock his skill better post their work RIGHT FUCKING NOW or else you're just a faggot who will never make it

>>3416683
angery and pretentious
are you german

>>3416870

>>3416683
no, i just like breaking you.

>>3416683
You should channel more of your autism into drawing and less into opening up moshpits in Ruan threads.

Not a single professional artist on this board, only opinionated cunts lmao. Everyone and their granma knows these are bait posts for brainless crabs. RJ aint great at anatomy and movement compared to many artists out there. He tries to cosplay an illustrator of a sort with personal pieces but at the end of the day the subject matter is what 90% of the industry already produces. Only thing that will get you excited at this point is chroma intensity and edge control (less visible cause of overrendering lately). A lot of people like him and a lot of people dislike him, just like anyone else thats popular out there. Caring too much is just making you into a bigger crab than you already are.

>>3416657
and the saddest is that nowadays many people aim to do this; to make attractive (to a certain extent) but forgettable drawings, so much so that it is sometimes difficult to distinguish if they were made by different people. Precisely what you say at the end, simply generic but functional for certain sectors

>>3416432
I really don't like the way he renders hair. It looks like a pink plastic bag.

>>3417203
>Not a single professional artist on this board
>RJ aint great at anatomy and movement compared to many artists out there. He tries to cosplay an illustrator of a sort with personal pieces but at the end of the day the subject matter is what 90% of the industry already produces

Funny how you think of yourself as a professional artist while knowing shit about it

>>3416657
I would argue reality is the exact opposite, as with most ideas on here.

Normies don't give a shit about generic looking render porn. It might get likes on social media but that's because there's no investment in hitting the like button.

Normies enjoy and buy products that looks "cool". Plenty of highly popular artists draw what IC considers low detail cartoon shit and have massive followings. RJ renders highly generic/forgettable designs. Only artists and wanna be plebs enjoy RJ's work because they're starting out, they see a high technical ability as something to strive for while ignoring more complex skills like design sense. Anyone can grind fundies until they can paint photo real work. I wouldn't look at anything he makes and call it "cool" looking, the technical skill is the draw not the subject or the way it's designed.

>>3416475
Ruan Jia is a painter, not a concept artist or cartoonist you dingus, his drawings are pretty shit because it's not his specialization. It's obvious that the people shitting on him are clueless retards who don't even know the difference between illustration and concept art.

>>3416432
BOOOOOOOO-RIIIIIIIING

>>3418058
>Ruan Jia is a painter
hahahahahaa

>>3418068
It's okay, one day you'll get out of your Dunning-Kruger and realize how fucking retarded, but more probably not because you're too much of a crab to actually start drawing or painting.

>>3418281
>Dunning-Kruger
your explanation for everything. nice scapegoat.
>you're too much of a crab to actually start drawing or painting.
oh i bet you know it all, got your candid cameras in my home, know my every move.

>>3418030
>RJ renders highly generic/forgettable designs. Only artists and wanna be plebs enjoy RJ's work because they're starting out, they see a high technical ability as something to strive for while ignoring more complex skills like design sense. Anyone can grind fundies until they can paint photo real work. I wouldn't look at anything he makes and call it "cool" looking, the technical skill is the draw not the subject or the way it's designed.
agreed, 100%

>>3418291
Not that guy, but obligatory "post your work".

>>3418295
did this one just recently, acrylics on canvas paper

To sum it up : it's very good AND boring/generic.

But what is not generic and not boring? Everything fall into tropes.

>>3418338
>Pic related
this is excellent and not generic.

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Moebius is also an illustrator, is oustanding and never generic
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hard to find scifi concept art that isn't generic, though. can't think of a lot of scifi illustrators that do it right.

>>3417171
Holy shit, didn know RJ posted here himself.

>>3418349
Looks like some tumblr tier shittery

>>3416691
>full of life
>straight-on pose

>>3416432
tits

>>3416432
What is the best place to get concept art work? Do you guys just build up portfolios on websites like Artstation? I was getting some work off craigslist, but now every category cost $5 per ad.

>>3416432
what a waste of potential

>>3418281
>Dunning-Kruger

Basically the most overused meme argument. Almost as bad as calling out "fallacies".

>>3416432
Just add some rubber bones animation and you have a League of Legends login screen.