/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stanislav Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

That OP pic is too good for the begineer thread. Are you trying to give me a complex?

>>3411726
if u spent time on ur drawings itd come out (close to) that

>>3411722
How do I draw eyes like this?

>>3411728
Practicing, obviously

>>3411710

thanks anon for replying. i've been locking my wrist but maybe i'm not ghosting enough so i'll try that. my problem isn't the curve being curvy or anything, it's it not adequately representing what i'm trying to draw. i'll try to do peter han's exercises tho!

Trying out a new shading style, pretty happy with the lips so far. Hit me with any critique on a better way to shade or render faces.

>>3411722
Don't know why, but he still doesn't look like Ron

>>3411782
I think his right eyebrow isn't flat enough so it looks like he's raising his eyebrow, a very un-Ron thing to do

i tried some gestures

>>3411812
are you going to post them?

>>3411814
no :(

another studie of five mindutes

Anyone else here motivated purely by envy and spite?

I fucking cannot stand people being better at me, so I have taken up drawing so that I can always have a skill to lord over other people with, and to prove that I am at least as good as anyone else because I have a skill I am (will be) a master at.

>>3411782
What's the point in doing this?

>>3411834
im motivedted by the fact that im coming to the age where I really have to get my shit together

>>3411837
This too.

I'm still young (early 20s) so it's excusable for me to be a know-nothing fuckup but I feel like if I don't start seriously buckling down now I'm gonna end up at 30 in the same position before I know it.

I have picked drawing to be my craft with which I prove my value to the world.

If only my autistic knowledge of Cold War military equipment had a use.

BMPT is my tankfu.

>>3411830
>>3411812
her another studie five mintues

>>3411839
young, autistic milfags shall conquer the earth

>pic related, wonky as fuck though

>>3411834
no thats weird

>>3411834
are you actually a woman
im being serious

no man would be bothered this much by petty issues

>>3411834
I'm only motivated because I have no talent.

>>3411842
A dude.

after hovering /ic/ books I think that almost all "learn to draw" books a meme and that only drawing in itself is the way to get far.

Ofc some things like anatomy, perspective and some techniques can be worth reading, i just mean 99% of the shit you find.

how based I am?

>>3411861
You're wrong.

Copying comes before drawing, and doing the copying exercises from learn-to-draw books will let you work on fundamentals one step at a time. Copying photographs or real life or other art makes you learn everything at once while, at the same time, not even telling you what you're learning.

Go do some copying from Loomis.

About 30 minutes drawing and painting over a gestural study from the anatomy drawthread. Struggling to bridge the gap between gesture and figure drawing. Already thinking about better things to do next time for shading forms of muscles and fat.

How do I go about improving my line accuracy when drawing from reference? I always either over/undershoot or get the angle off (and even a slight wrong angle will mess everything up).
Anything I should consider before setting a line or curve down?

>>3411951
Negative space, how thing line up horizontally and vertically, and measure 90 degree angles first, they're easier to judge than others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzDGO0LssEM

is this coming along okay? sorry for giving revan a gay rainbow background. i didnt plan that well at all.

>>3411978
This is watercolor?

>>3412017
its gouache so yes

Drew this from reference in about 15 minutes. Usually do pencil but wanted to try ink. What do you guys think? Should I stick with it?

>>3412030
Read the OP.

>>3411862

not that guy u replied to but in relation to Loomis should I try to copy the figures he makes? mine look terrible whenever I try to do them from imagination because I'm not good at thinking of where to add the little details like he does

>>3412045
First copy, then try your own.

When your copies look good, move on to drawing from imagination like he does in the exercise. When your drawings from imagination look good, move on to the next exercise.

Note that "good" is relative. You're a beginner so everything you draw will look like (and is) shit, but you will be able to see after just a few days of fairly minimal grinding (2 hours a day) visible improvement that will tell you when it's time to move on.

>>3411862
Do you have a vendetta against Keys/Right Side?

I work a boring IT job where 90% of my 40 hour work week is spent shitposting or watching YouTube, but I feel like I could be using this time to learn something. I wouldn't be able to practice until I get home though.

Is there anything art related that I can learn during this time without needing to practice alongside until I get home?

>>3412059
pick your nose

>>3412059
>>3412061
Same bro. Computing wagecucks unite.

I just look at drawings all day, I've got about 6 /ic/ threads open, my instagram and /r/drawing.

You could learn perspective and read keys though, for sure.

>>3412059
>Is there anything art related that I can learn during this time without needing to practice alongside until I get home?
No.

Practice without theory still leads to gitting gud eventually.

Theory without practice is in all cases a waste of time.

>>3412063
>reddit
Go back there, faggot.

>>3412065
imagine being this much of a ridiculous faggot

do you even like drawing? or art? do you even draw?

>>3412066
Fuck off cunt. Why don't you head on back over to one of the many other websites for normies like you and leave us alone.

I just want one place on the whole fucking planet where I can be free of the stupid bullshit people like you shit out at all times of day but no, that's not allowed. How dare I want a corner free of normie garbage when you fucking people have the whole fucking world to put your garbage? How ridiculous of me to ask this single thing of life and people and the world!

You are vomit and you belong with other vomit, not here.

Go back to Rebbit.

>>3412059
Line control exercises in the margin of a pocket notebook

>>3412069
calm down robot
i ws browsing 4chan long before i even knew reddit existed, and ill be browsing here long after i stop browsing reddit

>inb4 b8ed xDDDddd

half the people who post in here and the drawthread also post their shit on reddit, ive seen it.

>>3412069
I hope you get this triggered every time you see Instagram being mentioned here lmao

>>3412073
I'm sure you'll be pleased to know that I do.

>>3412071
>calm down robot
No. This is the one place I have and I don't want it to change.

Only constant, unceasing hostility creates the appropriately unwelcoming atmosphere needed to drive off normies.

>>3412033
>Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.
hmm

>>3412076
>RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
HMMM

>>3411722
That's my drawing :D
>>3411726
And I'm a beginner Idk but thanks for the compliment

>>3412077
Like anyone cares about a rules lawyer's opinion when they can't even provide constructive criticism

>>3412084
Not him but fuck off you arrogant presumptive cunt.

Nobody wants your 4k sketches just because you were too fucking lazy to resize them.

>>3412084
If you can't even be bothered to open your eyes and read the OP of the thread you're posting in to get help, you can't be trusted to use your eyes properly when drawing, you're destined to never ever make it.

>>3412090
>>3412091
snibbedy snib

>>3412094

>>3411834
That's not a good motivation. Play chess instead, at least that's competitive.

>tfw you ask a simple question but destroy /beg/ instead

>>3412090
>>3412091
I'm the guy that posted the work, the anon who you are arguing with isn't me. That said he has a point, you can point out I need to resize the image and still answer my question.

You also have a point, I did read the OP, but I'm on my phone and CANT resize it, dashchan did this automatically but its bugging out on me rn.

ooof.... i procrastinated on my life drawing homework and now i got 40+ paintings that I need to start and finish... within 4 hours. im an idiot.

ANYWAYS! I've never colored stuff digitally before and my knowledge of lighting is rudimentary at best. Any pointers for this here draw?

>>3412154
very good. Technically sound

>>3412154
Wow, that's really good!

>>3412160
>>3412167
Lmao don't be like this to the poor kid, anons.

>>3412154
Pointers? You should really look into ctrlpaint.

>>3412160
>>3412167

I'm not sure how sincere these are, but thanks!

I think it looks better without the lineart, after messing with the layers a bit.

>>3412182

ctrlpaint? I'll look into it! :)

>>3412154
>Over 40 paintings in four hours

You're literally not going to make dude. Drop out before you have to pay for your tuition, if you can't even keep up with your assignments this clearly isn't for you-at least not at this point in your life. You don't have the willpower, drive or clearly even the interest. Maybe you should be a professional Overwatch/Fortnite/"Whatever meme children's game you decided to procrastinate with" player instead because you've already decided that's more important to you than drawing and painting are. Quit school and go back only if and when you think you're ready to pull your head out of your ass because you're setting yourself up for the financial burden of a lifetime at this rate and will have dick to show for it.

it took me until i started trying to use the loomis sliced circle thing on actual people before i could begin to understand

>>3411728
2 circls + an oval looking thing and then you draw the rest of the eye

>>3411411
Thank you, I will!

>>3411419
That makes things a bit clearer, thanks for the explanation.

Project 2 - F, kinda botched the flowers, the right one is too big, that and the back flower are too high up.. The lid is also kinda sloppy.
Need to get better accuracy with using a free hand I guess?

How do I draw men like pic? can only do feminine ones and yet I draw manly females without doing it on purpose wtf

tl;dr
How to: draw a manly man and feminine woman?

>>3412122
>I'm on my phone and CANT resize it
then don't post it.

>>3412289
It's pretty obvious... not sure how you can't figure that out yourself. Bigger muscles + broad frame + linear/sharper lines = masculine. Slender figure + curvaceous contours = feminine.

Any tips or critique ?

So I'm currently working on figure drawing and I wanna ask what would be ideal starting points for creating and drawing characters? I know this is mainly for drawing real life people which I need in the long run, but any books/videos/courses for drawing characters from scratch would be greatly appreciated.

so i have been heearing two conflicting advice given around a lot which is; don't copy other artists and instead draw from life and develop your own style; find one artist and copy, copy, copy, until you are just as good as them and if you want to not look like an imitation, find another different artist and do the same and you will fall somewhere in the middle and have your own seemingly unique style. If you do this enough to different artists the more you will stand out as not looking like one particular artist or another.

Also, it is interesting to note that I hear more of the former come from teachers, professors, students and places like this, while I hear the latter more from actual successful/professional artists who recall constantly copying x artist when they were younger.

So which path do you guys follow and which one do you think is correct?

>>3412364
I mean technically you can start as soon as you know gesture and how to block in the figure, because after that it's pretty much connect the dots. Still use reference though as you'll gain more by studying and drawing the figure from a reference to use in your character drawing as opposed to just pulling a pose out of your currently empty hat.

Never stop practicing and moving forward with anatomy though. You'll build that pool if subtle nuances to include in your drawing and really impress the viewer, such as the squash and stretch of the torso, or how the eyelids react when you grin, to name a few of many things.

I accept I suck, but I'm trying everyday to do something. First digital thing, based on the /aco/ sticky. Cheaped out by making pasties instead of actually trying nipples.

I'm doing drawabox stuff currently to try and just get that motor skill up and running but I wanted to do something else on the side.

>>3412372
Look into master studies.

While life drawing is important to build that library, it's not how you develop a style or workflow. Artists who think they develop a style from life drawing still picked it up by observing other artists work. You don't just look at the bowl of fruit and all of a sudden know how to render.

Don't copy, don't trace. Find the art that inspires you and study it, then with your knowledge of the fundamentals try your best to recreate your own way. Look at the forms, look at how they draw anatomy. See what you like or what you would fix. Observe color, lighting and shading. Look at their strokes and lines to figure out what tools they used. Figure out the perspective. The list goes on.
Do this with different pieces from different artists and you'll develop your own workflow.

A movie writer was inspired to write his movie after watching several movies and a music writer was inspired to write by several musicians. Artists are no different.

>>3412379
ditch drawabox. pick up keys to drawing, michael hampton figure drawing, and steve huston figure drawing books.

>>3412427
Alrighty I guess. There goes two bucks on a pen down the drain. But seriously, thanks for the tip man.

>>3411951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBDZKoWLB9A&t=5m24s

>>3412448
>There goes two bucks on a pen down the drain.
keep drawing with the pen and whatever else you can find. stopping chicken scratch and dedicating yourself to the line is a good thing.

>>3412313
whats #1 on the list under resize

>>3412477
What phone are you on that doesn't have some type of studio thing or app you can download to resize images?

>>3412495
whta are you on about. thats what im saying. or do what #1 says

>>3412544
what are you on about? the entire point is not to have shitty blurry 3k resolution images that take up 3MB for nothing.

>>3412547
Lol you are dense my friend. That is the point. #1 says screenshot the photo instead of uploading your cameras 3k fucking image.

>>3412554
When was a screenshot posted?

>>3412556
Either this is an extremely elaborate troll or I am far too high to understand where this conversation is.

>>3412356
Resize and flip your image, then we can talk.

>>3412559
im nots ure his reading comprehensions up to snuff. let it go

Idk

>>3412595
I would bend her index and middle finger more forward instead of the moving away from the viewer. Even though we can for the most part move our fingers independently, they naturally curl slightly with each other if we aren't doing anything specific

I've been going through the Betty Edwards book for the last 2 days, here's my 2nd attempt at hand drawing.
Am I doing good? Any tips or suggestions?

>>3412670
looks pretty good but I notice a continuity break of the skin wrinkles from either side of the pinky/ring fingers which tells me you are drawing the hand piece by piece instead of building the hand from forms

>>3412697
I see what you mean, gonna work on that, thx.

Hey there, quick question /beg/!

I've got to shade in this model from life drawing class, but I was a fool and didn't give myself any pointers as to where the light was coming from/where the shadows were, so I'm just going for a generic upper left lighting approach here.

I'm new to shading stuff, so I'm just totally eyeballing this. Does this shading look correct for this pose?

should I kill myself now or later

>>3411722
Any tips?

>>3412760
later, you should make more of these cutesy sprites first

>>3412790
are they at least 3/10? I'm brand new to drawing and shat those out today.

Which books or videos do you guys recommend for learning about different pencil techniques and to creature textures?

>>3412769
Look at 2d shapes more carefully. Try copying from some good artists to get a feel for them

I know that learning digitally has all sorts of draw backs, but how important is the size of the tablet? I've had a bamboo pen and touch for a couple of years that I'd occasionally scribble with, but now that I'm actually trying to improve, it feels like the difference in stroke length done by hand compared to actual length drawn isn't something I should be learning with.

>>3412840
At least a medium sized tablet is recommended. Small ones aren't great for anything.

how do i improve my perspective for creatures from imagination? the bodies are specially hard to make if they're not from profile-

>tfw constructing heads by drawing the eyes first
S-Sweet fucking mercy

>>3412069
Bro go outside

Why do I keep drawing aliens when I try to draw humans?

>>3412906
every plain is massively expanded vertically. just shorten everything and it'll be gucci.

a beginner question about /ic/: what does GMI/NGMI mean?

is this a good foot study?

>>3412906
i just overlayed the two in gimp, lining up the eyes, then used filter>edgedetect>laplace on the drawn layer, and finally changed the color to red using the colorize tool. the biggest obvious errors are lips and the jaw angle

>>3412921
I thought the eyes were pushed too far into her skull, but now I see the problems with the lower portion of her face. Thanks.

Also, neat. I've been avoiding overlaying them because I didn't want to slip back into tracing by accident.

>>3412932
well you are a better artist than me, so if you think overlaying is a bad idea i would take your advice over mine. i just thought it was a good idea to see the differences

>>3412946
It's a bad idea for me, because every time I overlayed with the reference to spot mistakes in proportions I found myself tracing.

WHAT DO I DO?

>>3412958
Try harder.

>>3412958
Rotate 90° counter-clockwise
Resize to 1000x882

>>3412793
Dude keep making them, these aren't bad at all.

>>3411722
I still struggle with shadows and values, can someone quickly paint over this and show me how to get proper values? should I just put the values down a lot more harshly?

why are you autistic faggots obsessed with resizing?

>>3413078
Guess it has something to do with poor internet connection and/or screen resolution.

After studying anatomy and sketching for couple weeks i realized i know literally nothing on how to colour the picture. like zero. not even what brush to use. every attempt at putting colour on end up either too bleak or to strong.

>>3413078
>>3413082
And that we really don't need to see some drawings in 4k to get the idea.

>>3413090
Start with black and white value studies first.
Brush shouldn't matter. I use basic round brush unless I'm texturing fabrics or bumpy materials like asphalt.

>>3412595 gtfo out of /beg/, your making me feel bad

how does this look?

>>3412793
Better than 95% of pixel art from indie games.

>>3413112
looks bretty gud to me anon, good work

>>3411722
Hey /beg/, after a week of fiddling with that Loomis book I can satisfactorily draw my waifu! Should I move on to the poses section or keep practicing only the heads?

>>3412913
If you don't know this, you already NGMI

>>3413093
this

>>3413213
Your division of the ball is poor. Try again.

>>3413213
are you talking about fun with a pencil?
if so, just keep moving through the book and then you can go through a second time

>>3413213
This is adoring.

>>3413213
You are so cute Anon

>>3413213

I don't know what I learned from this

My first animation ever. How shit is it?

>>3413441
>>3375222

>>3411726
Actually learning to draw both the eyes and the nose from that angle is easier than you think

New here. Is drawing anime from references bad? I do realistic too but I do anime on the side to try and learn it. I'm getting ready to do fun with a pencil soon and I wanna keep do anime just because I enjoy it but not if it's screwing me up.

>>3413093
>poorfag on his dial-up modem and shit tier laptop whines about high resolution images

>>3413010
Define a light source and deconstruct that snek in cylinders. You need at least 10 cylinders. Shading cylinders should be easy. A harder mode is to define bouncing light and add that to the cylinders.

Post that and we should be able to get a better idea as to what's making you struggle. Also don't be scared of going really dark. Shading doesn't need to have a high value range, but you have to be able to use that full range effectively.

>>3413494
no

>>3413502
>/beg/gar posting pic of low effort circles on lined paper taken at an angle with pens lying on top in 4k

>>3413507
>And it's signed in cursive

>>3413494
If you by "drawing" mean mindlessly copying, then maybe.

>>3412122
Not entering the argument because I have better things to do, but posting a decent size picture is more likely to get you an answer. I tried opening it and I only got 1/3rd on my screen because of the ridiculous size. Whoever was ready to answer would just instantly give up.

We're all lazy fucks here, don't discourage us from helping you.

>>3413507
>argues repeatedly about the importance of resizing
>finds multiple slowjak images and uploads them
>"hurr durr actually answering would be too much work"

Keys master study
Unfortunately didn't realise I was smudging her with my hand until it was too late

anyone else not draw but come to /ic/ to laugh at jobless "artists"?

>>3413535
I have a job and come here because I like drawing

>>3413535
>/beg/
>artists
In any other thread this comment could work

>>3413535
do you also go to daycare centers to laugh at toddlers

>>3413555
yes but not for that reason

Any tips? Don't even want to finish this abomination. Ref pic to follow

>>3413572
ref

>>3413572
Scrap it and start over.

>>3413575
Obviously, but I meant to improve in general. I don't even think I'm ready for copying but I don't really know what else to do.

>>3413576
Start small. Much smaller.
Faces are very difficult, you've got so many things going on, and getting even one of them slightly off will make the whole thing crumble.

>>3413577
You mean like concentrating on just certain parts of the face for practice until I get them? IE, drawings of eyes, noses... etc?

>>3413579
I think anon means you should do something simpler.

>>3413579
not that anon, but try doing some vanderpoel studies. his book is easy to understand (imo) and reminds me a lot of bargue plates.

>>3413583
Forgive me for being retarded, but what exactly is a study? I've heard this in reference to "studying x artist" but what does that mean? Copying their drawings?

>>3413572
Sizing and spacing of features is way off. They look decent individually.

Look at the reference. Use the size of his eyes irises as a metric. Looks like there are about 6 "iris lengths" in between his actual irises. Your drawing looks like about 3.5.

What about your nose? Where should it really be? Where should the mouth really be in relation to that?

>>3413572
the nose doesn't match the ref at all
the teeth look crooked as hell
the eyes are too open, which is the main reason why it looks like a creepy alien baby

my advice is to get a full, good-looking contour drawing down on paper before even thinking about shading

>>3413572
Read the sticky.

>>3413584
a study for me was always copying a piece of work from an artist and figuring out why they made the choices they did. why was there a hard edge here? why did he combine these shadow shapes into one shape? etc.

>>3413572
https://youtu.be/0Prj9mHQPlU?t=296

Besides porn videos where can I find lots of references of slender boys?

>>3411782
what are you talking about, maybe there are some less wrinkles but that totally looks like ron

>>3413645
r9k

>>3411834
Take my word on this: that motivation won't work out for you. The only times you achieve something worthwhile will be the times you did it for yourself. If you want to make it you need that will to come from yourself, without having to base it on envy or spite towards others or any similar kind of external impurities.

>>3413572
>>3413574
it's like you drew him as a baby

>>3413645
me

I did linework and picked my unsaturated colors. Unsure how to tackle shading and further rendering. Any tips?

>>3413746
there's no point in rendering something with that terrible of form and linework. instead of painting it, practice more basic volumes like cylinders for construction and learn some juicy anatomy. rendering is simple, save it for later.

I WANT TO MAKE IT

>>3413784
Finish your wrapping lines, don't just let them end 3/4 of the way to the other side. And slow down a bit.

Will reading legit anatomy books help me with drawing or should I just stick to drawing anatomy books?

>>3413888
You should stick to drawing.

>>3412266
keep going dude. you doing well and even better than me. i tried to draw him but with my little skill and the weed still in my system i couldn't do it but i can agree the loomis head thing works

>>3413888
why not both?
>>3413901
also this

>>3413572
>>3413587
This was driving me crazy so i made this.

>>3413888
I don't know but if you don't draw at all, no amount of books will help you get better

>>3413888
Read the books, look at the pictures, draw the pictures, think of ways to reduce some of the visible muscles into volumes to make drawing them easier. scott eaton anatomy is more of a class than actually drawing. you won't learn to draw from it but you'll learn where the muscles are and what they look like. anatomy is like that where the theory informs the drawing but only if you practice and have the knowledge.

I cant believe i have to fucking practice realism i fucking hate drawing

>>3413971
ok im done now

on krita
how do I select a region, then move it someplace else
I come from windows paint, so I'm talking about the selection tool

>>3413971
Have you tried looking at the reference? There is one eye, not 1.75 eyes, between the two actual eyes. Plus everything else is completely out of proportion, which surprise surprise, fucks up the placement.
Just put off the shading until you draw the contours, and put off the contours until you block in everything correctly.

>>3413441
to throw a (cross) punch you start by turning your hips.

It might look better if he bent his back knee instead of the front one.


His current foot work looks more like it should go with a lunging jab.

I still like it tho

>>3413971
>>3413990
Seeing this was very informative, thank you. Can't believe I fucked up so badly

First time doing loomis heads.

>>3414014
cool now do 995 more

>>3413381
I learned to always give your characters a forehead.

Do you guys use a compass to construct when doing portraits?

I’ve been drawing for a year and two months, is my progress bad? I thought I’d be closer to being gud by now :(

And yes I know I’m chickenscratching, I have mild hand spasms which also shows in my garbage handwriting. It’s not that bad though since I can still make smooth lines if I know where to put them, it’s just the initial sketch that’s terrible. Maybe if I get better at visualizing things my lines will be better

>>3414039
That's good progress. Have a blog? I want to see you get even better.

>>3413441
>>3414004

>>3411782
Looks like an Indian guy

>>3412760
I like ur sprites, so i made something based off of the 1st one

Can I get a crit on my process from anyone in the thread? I feel like I'm doing something wrong while making my drawings and it's bugging me.

>>3411723
I don't get this shit how the fuck do I get past symbol drawing?

>>3414092
Just draw what you see.

>>3414092
You have to see before you think.
Also, you have to feel before you see.

>>3414095
?

>>3414092
what don't you get?

>>3414095
But feeling before you think leads to stupidity.

>>3414100
you're making good progress

>>3413784
those contour lines are so lazy come on man

>>3412284
you obviously have a pretty good eye for shape.

Time to practice rendering?

>>3414095
this

how are my proportions?
I'm thinking this took me a little too long for something so simple, at 30 mins

>>3414086
Looks really good to me anon. Your process is very similar to mine. I enjoyed your piece and hope to see more from you.

>>3414041
Wow thank you, I’m flattered. I guess /ic/‘s “get good in a year” meme got to me. I’ve been planning to make a blog forever but kept putting it off, but since this is the first time anyone’s ever asked me for blog, I just got motivated enough to make one!
http://instagram.com/juwenso
hopefully in the future my progress doesn’t disappoint, ahahah
thanks so much anon, you really made my day.

>>3414086
Do you have a website or blog I can follow?

another uninspired bullshitty creature AHHHHH

>>3414164
gotta try faking the perspective a little
closer stuff should be bigger than faraway stuff

>>3414118
your proportions? I mean, you have a nice style, but you're obviously not going for realism. Asking about proportions for a cartoon jsut seems weird

>>3412875
one good box with two "floors" should do the trick

>>3411779
your afro needs work

>>3411812
>>3411830
>>3411841
>cut off at the feet
stop shying away from this blatantly obvious weak point

>>3414173
feet are shit, literally the most disgusting part of the human body

>>3411842
the wings aren't confident enough
since the line wobbles, it looks flat and traced

>>3414176
even though I agree, they're still part of the body
getting a reference is as easy as looking at your own feet, so you can't let it lag too far behind

>>3414176
agreed, feet are gross and weird looking, might as well insist that people draw the ballsack in everything

ref: http://extravirginoilsvinegars.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/redapple-1.jpg
Is this symbol drawing?
What's the point of these exercises anyway?

>>3414157
No, but I will soon. Not decided on a username yet, but in a few weeks if people on here still express interest in my artwork I'll create one and post it. I don't mainly do pixel art btw, I do traditional a lot more and just got a tablet the other day.

>>3412266
he's not looking at the same angle as your drawing, so you probably didn't make the side oval thick enough
also his arm looks really off but I don't think you're focusing on that

>>3412284
the negative space between the top and right flower is obviously wrong
also the space between the stems
just be very careful to get the contours right before shading

>>3412769
her left eye should be moved down a bit
reminds me of seto yuuki's stuff for some reason

>>3414039
That's great progress for a year. Keep in up anon

>>3412919
increase the contrast of your pic
draw more feet
top right feet don't look right, maybe because of the ankle

>>3412958
oh I get it
you can't even get symmetry right so you don't know how to rotate

This is probably a really dumb question but:
Are swivel chairs bad to sit on when drawing? Probably... They annoy me and my head keeps cocking to the side, i don't know where the center is, I feel so dizzy, my drawings just look wrong

>>3414210
Sounds like you need to go to a doctor.

>>3413906
too much construction, not enough looking at the picture
it's good enough to not throw away

>>3414182
>not only drawing women

>>3414186
um, I don't know anything about pixel art but that guy looks like he's touching himself

>>3414184
You drew from a reference, so no. What exercises are you talking about?

>>3414176
>feet are worse than armpits, ear holes, nostrils, and human mouths

actual retardation

>>3414298
how do you get away with not drawing any of those

>>3413665
Have you considered that maybe I want to prove to myself that I am better than others?

What do you guys think of this?

>>3414315
then why art and not chess or programming or underwater basket weaving

>>3414322
So I can draw fetish porn and thus have a readymade audience to validate my skill.

>>3414316
Poor perspective.

>>3414330
Thanks. What could be done to improve? It's mostly torso/legs right?

>>3414333
It's the table.

>>3414343
Ahh yeah, I see it. Especially with that leg extending lower than his feet. Thanks for pointing it out. Added that table in after the fact without much thought.

going to call this finished. thoughts?

>>3414366
Unsettling.

>>3414368
how so?

>>3414373
the rendering

Is weird

>>3414376
anything specific? i know the grass is pretty shit and probably the fur but i dont really have a reference for that so im just winging it. i dont really want to dump a lot of time into this but maybe i will if the textures are that bad

>>3414377
drawing from imagination is a gigantic fucking crab meme and you fell for it
use a reference

>>3413527
Resize to 1000x1000 next time
also could u post the reff?

>>3414408
so are you saying if i just work on the textures more it wont be unsettling?

>>3411722
First time poster this board is comfy
How do i do hands

>>3412760
Honestly these are really cute, I wish I could make sprites these good so keep it up!

>>3414366
Is this your dog? Why didn't you just take a picture of it?

I guess I just decided to try and draw an astronaut, I've never even looked at one when I was drawing it and it's my first time drawing astronauts and I guess you guys can look at it and tell me what you think about it. I don't know it's certainly not my best work but I spent a lot of time doing it so I guess it was to say the least educational?

>>3414456
yes and that little shit was stay still long enough to get the shot it want. not to mention in the right lighting

>>3414456
>>3414462
oh and i wanted to test myself

>>3414462
Set your camera to high shutter speed, open the iris all the way, crank up the iso if you have to and do some burst shots on the pooper and get a lot and pic the very best one

>>3414425

>>3414479
I forgot to resize this too. Kill me.

>>3411834
That's not spite, retard. Nobody cares if you're better at drawing porn than them or not. It's just pure jealousy and it's unhealthy.

>>3414480
x)
I was just about 2 post that. tnx for the ref tho, looks interesting

>>3414315
That's basically what you said, so yeah, I did. It stills falls into what I said, specifically the "others" part.

>>3414366
>Welcome strangeling
>This is The Land Of Oz

yeah i know its shitty, trying to copy from ulrik is fucking hard lol

>>3414516
Do the foot.

>>3414520
its not in the image lol

>>3414521
Then don't look at the reference and do the foot anyways.

>>3414513
i dont get this at all, what does all of that mean?

>>3414472
but doesnt that mean id have to redo like everything?

>>3414523
done, i don't think its good but i tried

>>3414516
Post the reference.

>>3414532

The whole thing with bert dodson about free hand/control hand switching, is it actually important?

>>3414531
You tried and that's what's important.

>>3414547
uwu

Maybe tips on the color choices?

>>3414452
you must be over 18 to posts

>>3414560
Did you want to keep the original colors or add another color to what you already have?

>>3414560
Don't work on white.

>>3414567
I would like opinion on the already existing colors (idk shit about color theory). Um... Maybe better choices? Ones that would look more vibrant with one another

>>3414568
Im using shitty draing program for Android. Maybe also some good free drawing apps? It's good if it just has the basics, but i don't want it to lag either

I need to learn PS

>>3414031
Use your arm
Ghost the shape before you put it on paper

>>3414115
I feel that I need to work on contours and measurements before rendering/shading/etc.

>>3414189
Yeah, kinda went blind when it came to the flowers, should've taken more time checking for mistakes.

Bit hesitant to show yesterday's study for project 3-A from keys to drawing, it looks pretty bad. Was feeling exhausted at the time but didn't want to skip drawing.

>>3414227
In keys to drawing. There was an exercise to draw a pepper from imagination and reference. I did apples

>>3414535
i would pick a less gay reference

>>3414366
why ask for critique if you're not going to bother listening to any of it
good job, you got crap because your ability to take criticism is crap

>>3414766
He just said that he thinks it's finished and what other think.
Gee, calm down and drink some milk. Nappy time for you!

>>3414766
hi stalker

>>3414769
>>3414772
>didn't listen to advice on painting grass with colors other than green
>didn't listen to advice on dog feet anatomy
>didn't listen to advice on the shitty vein-looking things on the dog
this is what I think

>>3414516
do you see the giant red line?
because you failed to copy that, everything else is shit

>>3414782
you forgot
>i DID listen to advice about pool water reflecting the sky
>i DID listen to advice about about perspective of pool
>i DID listen to advice about fixing the anatomy of the hind leg
>I DID add some (shitty) texture to the grass

>>3414810
Why are you asking people what they think when you know what's wrong with it (i.e. the things you didn't fix)?

I have a feeling I've reached peak Dunning-Kruger

I have a feeling I've reached peak Dunning-Kruger

>>3414827
well because i did work on that other stuff a bit and i dont want to sink to much time into this. but okay ill get a ref after this weekend and work on it somemore

Does your art become crappier the less sleep you have or is that my excuse for being lazy.

>>3414887
Nah, you're just not able to create anything of worth to begin with.

>>3414887
Yes, sleep deprivation negatively affects most things.
No, it probably doesn't explain 100% of why your art isn't satisfactory. Fix your sleep schedule anyway.

>>3414837
Don't make all your forms rigid when mannequinising, use boxes, cylinders, etc. but don't be afraid to bend, stretch, and squish them.
And don't press so hard on the paper, leave soft marks until you're ready to do your final linework, don't press hard at all when you're shading.

I WANT TO MAKE IT I WANT TO MAKE IT I WANT TO MAKE IT

hi
I could use some advice with
a) dealing with foreshortening while posing hunched over creatures
b) posing hunched over biped creatures with digitigrade legs without them looking as if they're about to topple over
>>3414887
I've done some of my best work while deliriously tired. I think being sleep deprived forces me to pay more attention to what I'm doing than I normally would.

>>3414207
thanks senpai

W

>>3414969
Will doing practices like this help me with realism?

First time using markers

What do you think?

>>3415051
What do YOU think?

>>3414969
What kind of area is this? That looks whack.

>>3415054
I think it looks good. Keys to Drawing is no meme book.

>>3415072
I agree with the KtD being ace. I only started the other week, but even after the first goddamn thing where you're supposed to draw you feet while focusing on them was a total "Ahaa, I see where I went wrong and what I should have done better" moment.

>>3415120
>tfw retarded
>tfw no aha moments

>>3414366
Dog looks like one of those shitty barbie dog toys.

>>3415138
Granted, who knows if I ever do apply the aha bits to my future works? The true retard test is in there.

Are there any tools you consider essential for drawing traditionally?

its me again!!!

i am having trouble doing drapery in pixel art. Anyone help me wrap my head around drapery please.
also, my foreshortening is weird and i don't know if i did it right.
if i want people to critique my fundamentals should a post higher resolution drawing?

>>3415645

What the FUCK is the torso
Jumping from book to book, vid to vid, skeleton pic from skeleton pic, it seems to vary between a box and rectangle, egg and oval, tilting forward or staying vertical during construction
Could anyone explain to me which is which and which they consider easier for construction with the reasons for it so I can start building mannequins without needing to trace skeletons, thank you

>>3416223
Loomis

Does Keys to Drawing actually teach you how to draw only how to copy? Why is it considered the a better book to start on than drawing on the right side

>>3414563
what does that mean

How do you transition from drawing on paper to drawing on tablet? I have a lot of difficulty drawing digitally because I can't figure out how to start, mostly because of the difference of looking at paper and looking at a monitor while drawing on tablet.

>>3416918
What does Drawing on the right side of the brain do differently?