/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I'm trying to get into the flow of constructing a skull, but the mouth part always holds me up. what am i missing?

>>3399784
maybe perspective and a sense of 3D to 2D

>>3399841
Cool

>>3399889

good job!

Drawing I made for a friend

>>3399784

Bottom right skull has fucked up perspective, remember we are seeing it from underneath, so the mouth should curve up the opposite way

>>3399907
Have you got a blog?

>>3399935

yea, mikejordana.com or slendermike on instagram

>>3399907
>>3399942
Pretty good stuff

>>3399942
yh nice stuff bro

you defo bring something to da table

>>3399929
Big if true.

>>3399904
thanks man, here is final verison
>>3399841
>>3399907
thats dope

>>3400018
forgot pic

>>3399784
Divide the lower third of the skull in thirds. First line would be where the upper and lower jaw meets.

>>3399889
Do you post ur pictures in any site? Arstation, Devian etc... Just want to see more

>>3399774
I drew this for /v/. Brown girls are the best but they take a lot more effort to draw.

sketch of a goddess. how can i make it more interesting? it looks boring and uninspired..

>>3399774
first oil self portrait

>>3400066
give her lil Xan tattoos?

>>3400068

>>3400049
https://klinckfoster.tumblr.com/
Dont get exited. I've just started drawing again so most of my stuff not that good

>>3400070
Well thats how I feel when trying to paint, so very appropriate.

how bad anatomy is?

>>3400066
ANY SUGGESTIONS

>>3400204
>>3400069

how can i into colour? i tried eyeballing the colours mostly and my guesses were almost all wrong first go.

>>3400066
what is she a goddess of? does she have any holy symbols like the doves or hand mirrors?

>>3400257
oops sorry

>>3400134
Smooth gradients, hatching, and screentone? Why not add halftone and mezzotint too, while you're at it?
Do you really need all of them to indicate form?

My dog in front of fireplace from life. like?

>>3400260
you know you can delete a post right?

>>3400134
Honestly my first thought was that Catwoman new 52 #1 cover everyone mocked. (google catwoman cover controversy)
Just pick tits or ass to show off at that angle, broken spines aren't sexy

>>3400257
>what is she a goddess of? does she have any holy symbols like the doves or hand mirrors?
no, it's a made-up goddess. i guess of love/beauty. birds and hand symbols seem too predictable though, it wouldn't make it more interesting. i want her to somehow be interacting with something else in the piece before i start to render it.. again not birds though

just fuckin around, don't know how to foreshorten a male torso

>>3400053
I need you people's thoughts on this pls.

>>3400320
why the FUCK do pictures rotate like that

>>3400281
Are you telling me you wouldn't fuck a girl in a wheelchair?

>>3400323
The belly looks good but literally everything else needs a lil work. The left side of her cleavage is too far to the right and makes the whole chest unbalanced. Face structure is fine, kinda reminds me of old disney. The cheekbone shading on the left side of her face looks out of place. Your hatching is very good, you must have a really good sense of value, just need to work on your anatomy.

Third time's the charm amirte. I have trouble with torso foreshortening.

>>3400281
>>3400269
I tried to make her turned a little sideways. Thank you.
>>3400269
In general, no, but I like how the glare and the shadow on the metal in the comics are made with halftone. So I could not resist

>>3399839
>3D to 2D
did you mean to say, "2D to 3D"? and that I should be visualizing the skull in 3 dimensions? that i should think with forms, and not lines. break down the skull into it's simplest components and how they interlock, instead of just copying the reference

holy shit, thanks. and here i thought you were being unhelpful- my mistake :^)

>>3399910
>the mouth should curve up
i got <a lot> of things wrong, but surprisingly that wasn't one of them. at least i don't think so- i could be wrong. here's the ref used

>>3400035
this sounds useful- i'll try it out right away. thanks my guy

>>3399907

i like the monster cat everything else is meh...

>>3400408
Love it, blog?

>>3400331
maybe not if she was arranged like a pretzel

>>3400408
it's like a big dough horse, i love it

>>3400460
thanks! I got an instagram at
https://www.instagram.com/wicksz

Just having fun with poses from imagination and using loomis and hogarth as reference.

>>3400432
Blog

>>3400555
aaand I'm done for the day.

>>3400491
great stuff dude, keep it up! I don't have an instagram but I'll still keep an eye on you

>>3399889
>>3399841
interesting stuff, like the colors
>>3400555
might recommend doing poses from references at this point. some of the individual parts are getting there but aren't coming together as a whole

>>3400617
>might recommend doing poses from references at this point. some of the individual parts are getting there but aren't coming together as a whole
Will do. How about these >>3400599? Do they have the same problem?

Thank you very much for the feedback! Great stuff btw, bike looks rad.

I'm trying to work on values because everything I do in color either looks bland or washed out, and I tunnel vision on rendering so much that the proportions are never right. The first one is before, the second is after. The second looks slightly better but something still seems off and I can't place my finger on it. The anatomy of her face looks weird.

Also how do I transition greyscale to color?

Please help.

>>3399774
Current WIP. An evil demonic giant named Ifset. How does it look so far?

how is this

Something i messed around with for an hour or so

/Alt/ is down so I'm gonna post here for a bit.

>>3400617
I really like this, your anime eyes are a bit too close together though.

>>3400861
Forgot to upload image...

>>3400767

Help what’s wrong with her leg

>>3400272
looks pretty comfy.
I always love the grain of charcoal/crayons. Gives it an old black and white photograph from the beginning of the 20th century/ end of19th century look

>>3399784
anotha one
left is botched attempt because I rushed the proportions. right took much longer, but i was more anal about measuring

>>3400648
I love him, he's got character, although i do wanna say one thing. It looks like he's gonna sit on the tank thing. It reminds me of when those bar stools break and the metal pole just goes straight into the people sittin on them. Maybe 86 the tank and focus on defining his legs more? Maybe add more green bros?

>>3401012
whats wrong with her torso

I need to produce more stuff, so here's my submission for the CDC.

>>3401100
she jacked, but Her main abdominal muscles are too small. I knew that was a prob already, in process of fixin, my big problem is her leg and crotch area tho. I doesn't look right and I can't figure out how to fix

>>3400066
the pose is pretty boring and the setting in general. I'd try to give some distinct accessoires, interesting facical features or draw something interesting in the background.

Barbary Corsair in spaaaaace

oil

>>3401387
this is one of those ones where you're super stoked on it and you show it to basically anyone and they're like 'oh..flowers, good job anon' and you're like 'no look at the fucking painting not the subject!'

that's why you switch to abstract art, then there's only the painting.

>>3401394
Then people will say "oh..you just smeared paint everywhere, anyone can do that" and they will be right.

>>3401387
Btw, beautiful painting anon. The other guy was right to point out the boring subject though

>>3401387
Why isn't Brian able to do this

>>3401418
so if you were to put as much thought and effort into an abstract painting as that painting of flowers the abstract painting can't possibly hold the same artistic value?

sounds like someone doesn't have 'the eye of the artist'

>>3401418
>Then people will say "oh..you just smeared paint everywhere, anyone can do that" and they will be right.

Then you go outside and poo all over your canvas, and people will say "huh I guess not everyone can do that"

>>3401430
not him, but reading what you initially posted in response to the subject matter and suggesting the switch to abstract, it seems like you assume only interesting subject matter can come from painting abstract. It's a meme for pseuds or anyone who can't paint like the greats.

>>3401430
You could put years of thought and effort into an abstract painting and it would look no different from a shitty one made on the fly by some grandma.
"Abstract art" is at best interior design, at worst it's just trash.

Probably there's anatomy mistakes but I'm satisfied with this one. Tried to make a gross/ugly breton briarheart. Drawing the staff/skulls in the armor was super fun.

>>3400934

Trying to make it more realistic but now it looks way too smooth, i think i ruined it lol
Any tips on how to paint realistic without it looking like shit?

>>3401548
I like it, there's lots of details that you have going on that fits in well, especially with the face area.

What I would suggest is maybe draw in maybe a rock for him to stand on and draw in some shadows and shading to give this picture some depth and to show the legs underneath the fur kilt.

>>3401012
there's a couple of things here, the first is that there's a whole lot of detail in the torso compared to the rest of her body, which sticks out like a sore thumb.

And with the leg... I think you're talking about the left leg. It looks like the ankle is dislocated because the foot is pointing WAY out to the sides. What I would do is fix up the foot, have the heel be visible and the foot facing more towards where the kneecap is pointing.

Otherwise decent job.

>>3401091
This looks much better in my uneducated opinion.

>>3399784
>>3400447
Drop that far eye socket lower than the near one, you drew it higher a couple times

>>3400053
I know we're looking down at her but I still think her arm is too short, it makes her look like a dwarf

>>3400638
you should handle your proportion before even starting to render

Just sketchbook stuff. All attitudes are welcome.

>>3400053
Why did you sign it before it was done?

Obviously RJ inspired.

>>3401682
Not too bad. The eyes have a lot of symmetry.

>>3401682
Nice though, I drew>>3401674.
I'm not an expert by any means.

>>3401690
What do you mean?

>>3401682
use a larger brush, just by doing that you will learn better edge control, shape language and markmaking. also pls do not shade with neutral greys and blacks. i don't want to say 'don't render before you learn anatomy' bc honestly do what you want. but i think some drawing fundies would benefit your over all construction

>>3401725
lol the gif is so posterised sorry

>>3401721
It almost looks like you cut and cropped the two eyes.
It's beautiful digital drawing, but..

>>3401666
you seem fun man try not to fall off your high horse
>>3400638
the second does look better, lots of folks use overlay layers as a faux glaze, its good to colorize/tint your under painting layer before doing this though. just think of it like oils

>>3401738
yeah but that anon is kind of right. right?

>>3401741
yeah, but also the person was clearly not an absolute beginner, and its fucking pretentious to be like 'you're not allowed!!!!!' attitudes like that are so ngmi it hurts. its just a ticket to burnt-out city USA. usually the people spouting that shit are super hypocritical as well

>>3401743
i mean i dont see the issue in all honesty, he just said he should get the face right before rendering it.

i think you're looking to much in to it, he didn't say he wasn't allowed to render.

>>3401746
he kinda did though

>>3401746
>>3401749
idk man i'm just really passionate and really high

>>3401135
I love it.
The only thing I'd say could be better is the drapery. The folds in the clothes and belt aren't following believable physics so they don't flow in natural directions. I would suggest studying up on that some and reworking the ones in this piece a little bit.

I'm trying to learn color. This is my first time trying to use a limited palette. I went with an analogous palette. How am I doing so far?

>>3399784
back to the beg thread, boy

critique

>>3400648

looks too much like an existing hindu god or an evil thai god or something. Lotus flower is always associated with something peaceful or a peaceful god for example the chinese guanyin.

maybe do research on stuff instead of stealing shit and put everything together mindlessly.

Acrylic

>>3401638
I did some touchups and played with the color, I fixed a lot of things, should I pay attention to anything else?

>>3401034
thanks, it's actually just white pencil on black paper.

>>3401988
It is supposed to look like Kali or perhaps Ravana, yes. I used the lotus specifically because a nuclear explosion always reminded me of a lotus flower, and plus the nuclear bomb sprouting from the lotus shows the awesome power of nuclear technology, in this case in the hands of Chaos manifested as the Fat Man bomb.

I'm curious also as to how you think I'm "stealing shit and putting it together mindlessly"?

Nick Swardson

>>3401091
thanks, now i just have to do 99 more

>>3402013
using thinner line weights and not giving a hard outline to every single ab makes a world of difference when rendering muscular characters

>>3401932
oh no, you gonna use your pincers on me?

>>3401642
thanks, now i just have to do 99 more

>>3402013
using thinner line weights and not giving a hard outline to every single ab makes a world of difference when rendering muscular characters

>>3401932
oh no, you gonna use your pincers on me?

>>3402182
Better?

>>3402161
Is that from Callen's instagram? Swardson looks like shit nowadays, goddamn.

>>3400068
You look like a fag.

>>3401941
CRITIQUE?

>>3402268
it's from his appearance on Norm Macdonald's podcast

>>3402096
They meant you weren't putting thought into your design, especially because you seemed to take inspiration from existing mythology without being very educated on what you were drawing.
It really does look like you grabbed a random Eastern god and gave them a lotus to hold. I never would have gotten 'evocative of a mushroom cloud' from that; maybe you could have the lotus blossoming up behind them or something.

>>3402272
it looks like airbrushed trash, happy now

>>3402277
I don't understand that. It is supposed to resemble some features of Kali and some of Ravana, precisely because they are both fearsome beings and powerful. I then fused this with the idea of a particularly evil asura to create this creature, giving it he name Ifset, or the primal force of chaos in Egypt. So I did not draw without thought or mindlessly. Had I done that, I would have simply copied Kali and given her a bomb, or copied Shiva in the same manner from other art. So I still don't understand how I did it without thought, and I certainly dont feel as though I'm "stealing shit"

>>3401674
If I can make any criticism I would go lighter on the outer line in the light areas, so it doesn't look as outlined. Otherwise I like it though

>>3402279
No

>>3402506
Nice values. Saved. Do you have reference?

>>3402589
it's really great, spend the next year making these to fill out your portfolio and many studios will come knocking with offers to do illustration for them. Happy now?

How does this mess look to you?

dogdoingscience.jpg

I love doing watercolours even if I have no idea of what I'm doing.

>>3401631
Thanks for the comment, appreciate it anon. He looks kinda dumb floating, right? I'll draw something that he can stand on. I plan to color this drawing digitally so that's why I didn't shade. Thanks again.

Any recommendations on resources for making comics? Specifically composition and lettering. My handwriting is atrocious.

>>3402605
Reference? I drew from an earlier drawing of mine from like, 2013.

>>3403113
I drew with the one on the left side as a reference, and just did my best to make it better. Didn't look at the later one on the right at all.

i'm finishing this

It’s not my best but it’s my most recent

>>3402736
It’s actually pretty readable. Tho it did take me a while to realize it’s a skull on the right.

>>3402736
Thats pretty rad how the lady's cloak serves as the backdrop for the other part.

>>3403164
i finished it and had that idea >>3403209

>>3401941
the hand reaching ruins it but great job everywhere else

Posting mobile so idk what these files are gonna do but I haven't posted in a while and I'm bored. Met this girl and we'll be doing drawings twice a week for the summer hopefully

>>3403386
Her boobs are gigantic, also I drew the stuff in my pocket

>>3402236
yes!
as far as the overall anatomy is concerned, you can't make the fixes needed unless you do a complete redraw, but you are definitely headed in the right direction with the making the muscles more subtle

>>3402236
her torso is too wide,even for a fit chick.
thighs need better work.i would recomend looking at some refferences.its nsfw but id look at incase or dmity's for better form. also loomis.

>>3402270
thats funny, you should see me with a dick in my ass.

any advice/crit?

>>3400134
anatomy looks ok but the boobs look awkward

>>3403525
stylistically it looks good. if i was you i'd work on the right arm, looks a bit disproportionate

I'm working on a commission and I can't seem to get it right. The arms/hands look so fucked, help?

>>3401564
edges, making her eyes point at the same direction, making sure you block in the right values and don't start blending/using small brushes so soon, hair as a volume and not a bunch of straggly brush strokes

He's just a generic Greek warrior, but I had fun drawing this guy. Crit please?

>>3403525
Keep the skin tone consistent

>>3403639
Is this a finished piece? Looks like a wimp. It’s pretty great but the legs look less polished than his upper half. Even the proportions on his lower half are a bit off ( legs a tad short )

>>3403665
WIP not wimp

guy admiring a smoke i made on drawpile

>>3403665
Thanks! It's a WIP, but not sure if I'll finish it.

can i get critique?

last minute decision to draw a cover for my comic
I'm super stoned and legit don't know if this looks the way it looks in my head or not

>>3403395
Thanks! I’ve always wanted to draw attractive muscle women, i’m Just glad I’m getting close.
>>3403432
I like nsfw art as refs, I feel some of those artists have great knowledge of anatomy, in some cases I feel it’s even better than some famous traditional artists. For the thighs, yeah they could use some work, i’m Bad with clothing and legs in general. Pic related is a leg study I got carried away with

>>3401564
im done with this shit drawing

>>3403608
>making sure you block in the right values and don't start blending/using small brushes so soon
i will remember this for my next drawing, thanks, i already got bored of this one.

>hair as a volume and not a bunch of straggly brush strokes

But i love spaghetti hair

>>3403229
how does it ruin it and what would be better? here's an update..

>>3403565
Have you tried making them less angular and more curvy, like you did the legs?

>>3400862
I like this!

>>3400447
>>3399839
I try not to be a crab sorry if you thought i was unhelpful.

What i mean was really imagine you are drawing a 3D Object and not just copying.

>>3400408
nice belly leg

>>3404301
what you’re saying and what you show in the picture contradict each other, but i understand your point. thank you anon >>3401091

>>3404315
Yeah.. but with my pic i mean don't ignore your reference.
Do both
Construction and life drawing

Please rate.

>>3404460
4032 our of 3024

>>3404461
Anon, I...
I think that's good?

>>3404472
He's referring to the image size ya dolt. Resize your shit.

>>3404476
>crying about image sizes
Hahaha
Grow up.

still in progress but any complaints please

>>3404844
Well a bunch of us pointed out some errors the last time you posted this and apparently you ignored basically fucking everything that was mentioned. You're not posting here for actual critique are you.

Is the shoulder too low set? She's twisting her neck back obviously but what about the shoulders. I had to revise this because of line weight but it's just an exercise.

>>3404844
I like iiiiiit
blog?

>>3404854
No I just wanted to see what the draw thread had to say as well - second opinions. There was already ink in the area where I'd put a neck panel but I'm planning on chopping down the jawline of opened panel with a little more fill from the bottom if I can figure out how to do it without messing up the linework.

plate armour study (from reference)

Finally got around to finishing this

From life

just something ive been working on

doing another study

>>3403696

where's your lightest point. the whole is image is on the dark side. you have a cast shadow but there's barely any highlight.

venom is glossy.

study (not really true to the original but whatever)

>>3400134
Unless she's some kind of skinwalker, that forearm is too long.

>>3400772
I always imagined him as being extremely black, but interpretation is interpretation. I would, however, get rid of that glitch effect. Film grain would make it look more spooky and old.

>>3401941
Is it a WIP? Please, let it be a WIP.

>>3400772

woah...

so 3d...

My camera is worse than a literal potato. Still working on the painting. I'm just messing around with brush strokes and adding depth.

>>3403118
>>3402506
Nice improvement, keep it up.

WIP of a Wei Feng study. Anything I should watch out for?

>>3399841
Really digging your style.Do you have a tumblr or something?

>>3406721
Don't know what the original image is but this looks pretty fine so far. Might want to sharpen the edges a bit but then again I don't know what his stuff looks like.

>>3406728
This is the original by Wei Feng. I've still got a lot left to do.

Trying to work on animal anatomy and tone studies. I think I'm starting to get a feel for them, but wondering if there's something obvious that I could be doing to improve the quality of my work.

>>3406721
The skin is greatly lacking in hue variation, not to mention the ribcage doesn't look proper and overall you're not pushing contrast/hues enough.

Spent a really long time filling sketchbooks so i forgot how to render and make it look presentable. fug

i want brutal, constructive critique.

test

>>3403073
Anything by Scott McCloud - Understanding Comics, Making Comics

>>3407079
block in your shadows first before going full blendmode

anyone else having trouble uploading?

>>3407079
Dayum, Monica Bellucci haulin' dat booty.

>>3404492
No one wants to load your 1.3 MB sketch

>>3404844

shintaro kago?

>>3406725
Yes! https://lil-tachyon.tumblr.com/

>>3407179
Thanks man, I will check them out

>>3406732
Yours already has a cuter face, good shit anon

Still getting used to drawing with a tablet.

>>3407727
At first I thought it was a top shot of someone with their legs spread looking at a red puddle

>>3407771
haha no, but thanks for the visual! it gave me a good idea

Sketch from a day or two ago

>>3405901
Try to think in planes (sides that make up cubes) and use a bigger brush. Simplify.

>>3407079
Lighting makes no sense atm, considering there’s a giant sun behind her and you’ve got a bunch of top lit forms. Get refs if you can!

>>3403386
Her right eye is falling off her face

>>3403525
try an get a solid underdrawing for your next one, the hands appear to be different sizes, and lots of little perspective wobbles going on

It’s hard to give objective critique on this one since I’m not sure if you’re aiming for lifelike colors.


>>3403565
Try ref/tracing

>>3403639
Colors are strange. Is there a reason for his skin to be the same colors as his armor? the color of the fabric seems to be strange too.

Was it a colorized grayscale image?

Speculate highlights are a bit ambiguous as far as where the light source is.

Would recommend grabbing ref for metal and fabric in the lighting scheme you’ve created

>>3403671
can’t give feedback on this, what are you looking for feedback on?

>>3403696
get anatomy ref, define a light source. You shouldn’t be zoomed in rendering without having the structure be solid.

Why is there a shadow being cast to the left so harshly, while the forms you painted are not being lit from the right?

What is your goal with this piece? if you absolutely want to make a polished image at your skill level- grab a 3d model, pose the figure how you want, add the lighting and paint ontop. Or use a ton of reference and really take time to redraw and plot your highlights and shadows early.

>>3403733
Cute! I’d be careful for the tangent with the title and the figure.

>>3403749
You desperately need to study value. You’re too heavy handed with blacks. It looks like you took a grayscale image and blasted the contrast outward. Also you should plot your light source out because the forms are not indicating to me where the light is coming from at all (bra is lit from bottom, yet area under chin casts shadow, lighting from the top etc.

Remember to think about where the light is when painting

>>3403840
Pretty rendering! I’m not entirely sure where the light is coming from, but I don’t think is breaking the picture or anything, just autistic nitpicky things

>>3399841
Pretty sweet! The speculate highlights seem a bit confusing, you’ve got them on the right side of the shield, which isn’t indicating the same lighting as where the shadows and other highlights are at. Nitpicky af tho looks neat

>>3399889
Lighting seems inconsistent. Also the robbed figures at the bottom sortve “crop” the image. Maybe indicating some light bleeding through the crowds to separate the shapes, while directing the light compositionally back toward the skull boob girl thing

>>3399907
Awesome!!

>>3400068
Maybe do an underdrawing next time- one eye appears to be floating off your face. Good luck in your next one, oil seems neat!

>>3400260
Still life’s are great for learning color

>>3400555
Where’s his neck


>>3400599
Don’t forget, perspective still applies with figures.his eye socket shouldn’t get larger as it recedes from the viewer. I’d probably stick with life drawing while learning s’more perspective


>>3400617
Awesome!

>>3400638
Have you tried working with a colored underpainting? It’s hard to paint color ontop of bw without it muddying out. Also remember you can check values with proof setup

There’s some guides out on ao to color, but probably better to just get more mileage in working straight to color. Long form still life in color will help, and just general mileage and observation. If you want a shortcut just render a 3d model with the lighting you’d prefer and use it as a guide.

>>3401135
The effects you toss on after look pretty cheesy; lots of perspective and lighting issues being covered up by my style.jpeg. To each their own though, but you would benefit from observational drawing/painting.

>>3401372
spend more time constructing/underdrawing, the forms are kind of wonky. You’d benefit a bunch from doing some still life. Would reccomend one with fabrics, glass and metals, because you’re having a rough time conveying material and general color/light.

>>3401387
Sweet! You can def push the next one further, if that’s a goal. Part of me wats to see the main flower more rendered out.

>>3407974
>>3407976
>>3407989
>>3408017
>skipped yet again

>>3401564
You’re approaching painting ina silly way. It’s good to work from general to specific, from large strokes downward. Right now you’re playing “copy the photograph , making little of your own decisions. You would benefit from painting from life, either other figures or from a mirro. lol at artists such as zorn, scrolls, sargent and look at how economical and intentional their marks are.

>>3401631
>>3401674
The outline is ruining any subtle values you’re doing.

>>3401682
Colors can be improved, painting from life should help.

>>3401931
Learn color from observation, try still life.

>>3402013
Plot your light source. Study fundamentals. Lighting is all of and colors are extremely muddy

Space Marines WIP

>>3403639
>>3407974
Strange how? Can you be even more specific?
It is a colorized grayscale drawing. Reason is because painting from scratch with colors are very down to luck for me.
I limited myself to 2 main colors & 1 accent color, because otherwise the result will be extremely garish.

lol, specular highlights are definitely wrong here.

When and how do i know i'm not /beg/ tier anymore?

Finally I can post this god damn it.

>>3407795
This is gorgeous. Maybe you should try different sizes with the holes, since they look kind of similar, but congratulations on those colors

>>3408205
If you're able to pull a finished piece confortably, you're in. I would say /beg/tier is when you start working on your fundies, and this place is for "finished" drawings or at least decent looking sketches.

Trying new rendering techniques

>>3408199
So with color it’s nice to maybe think in “base color” of a material, and then factor in the temperature of the light source.

A diffused object being lit will typically shift *towards* the color of the light source, and as it recedes it will shift away. So as the form moves from highlight to shadow the hues are constantly shifting. The issue right now is the colorizing technique you used looks as though the hues are not shifting, but instead are just being darkened with a gray.

I don’t into specular colors, but you can cheat it in a program like blender by rendering out sphere with a similar lighting setup to your image (very simple and well worth doing)- and then drop the material sphere into ps as a guideline for how your light will behave. 3d programs are great for painters because you can do little isolated experiments and create your own lighting refs very easily.

>>3408424
Render out a sphere with a material preset I need to add* was unclear.

>>3408024
> general to especific, from large strokes downward

Well i used to do (really amateur) realist / photorealist graphite and carbon art, where you need to focus in an area, and when it looks similar enough to the photo, you move on to the next area. It's hard to get used to more "traditional" painting, where fidelity to reality is not that importat (like the artists you recommended me, while their paintings look realistic enough, you can easily still tell that they are paintings).

I think you are right, if I paint from life or if i limit my "working time" I don't have time to focus on small details. Thanks for the advice.

This is the "finished" one tho >>3403764 I spend about 3 hours painting it.

This is another study i painted in less time (about 1 hour), i used bigger brush strokes and tried to keep it simple. What do you think about this one?

>>3408587
Why are your artistic goals? Why is photorealism with painting a goal for you?

>>3401682
yeah i can tell from the completely dead and emotionless stare

>>3399774
this virtual painting shit is hard

>>3408199
put in some sweet embers blowing by in the foreground and shit.
its looking good bro, dont stop.

>>3408595

> Why is photorealism with painting a goal for you?

It is not. I was decent at realism when i was a teen so i kinda got used to do only that style. I stoped drawing for a couple of years (because of uni and some other stuff that took my time), but i got a wacom draw last month and started drawing again.

> What are your artistic goals?

I don't know, i'm pretty new to the "art world". I draw / paint as a hobbie, so i know i could never be as good as some of the people that post here and do art professionally, but i would like to get better and learn how to do different styles.

>>3408629
Well all that you’re doing right now is learning to get better at copying photographs. If you’d like a really good foundation then you should focus really heavily on perspective and lighting simple forms. that foundation will allow you the framework to draw anything and paint it (without just copying photographs)

>>3403639

play around with adjustment layers if you prefer grayscale to color process...

>>3408757

post work

Supposed to be inspired by this, but can't get them all arrayed in a line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbZUvWs-XyE

>>3408828
throwing down a ton of unnecessary perspective lines does not make a drawing dynamic

>>3408822
>>3407795
Ok

Robot monster thing

>>3408424
Thanks for the explanation, I learned something from it.
I did put some blue/purplish colors in the shadowed area though. But I suppose I need to pour more thought and energy into it.

Cheat with 3d programs eh? Good idea, will definitely try when I can

>>3408604
Thanks for the encouragement! I was thinking rubbles, fog and dust, but embers are even more awesome.

>>3408804
I don't know.. seems a bit too bright in my eye.

>>3408904
As someone who prefer working 2d whenever possible- 3d software works great for messing with how lighting works. Saves me the money of buying objects with different materials and colored lights!

>>3408887
You might be interested in this gallery.
https://www.artstation.com/chingyeh

>>3408598
Try a harder brush.

>>3400068
The thumbnail looks nice, I think your values and temperatures are pretty accurate. I'd say pay a little more attention to the drawing next time. Also, use a little less medium next time and try to start your paintings with the largest brush you can manage.

>>3408024
>Learn color from observation, try still life.
Done it for years and it hasn't helped. The only thing that seems to be making a difference is forcing myself to color things while thinking about the color theory stuff I've read and watched.

>>3409097
>done it for years
>hasn’t helped

Do you have any examples of your years of color studying? Whenever people speak in years I’m inclined to think that you did a 2 hour still life maybe once every 4 months. Put a good chunk of time into a few, and aim for 1:1 as much as possible.

Lots of smaller color studies are helpful to.

http://www.huevaluechroma.com

You can try this as a color resource because it covers everything you need about learning realistic lighting. (After you have a comfortable grasp of realistic lighting feel free to play around as you see fit, breaking rules and whatnot)

but I feel you are vastly underestimating the amount of mileage good colorists put in to achieving their colors. There’s a reason why so many artists that do colorkeys/color scripts happen to do a ton of plein air and life studies.

>>3409133
I have that page bookmarked, I've read it several times. I took 3 semesters of painting where practically all we did were still lifes and studies and I painted on my own outside of that whenever I could. From time to time I'd take colored pencils outside and try sketching things from the environment. I've done dozens of digital paintings from photos and in fact I'm working on one right now. The problem was even if I could get things to look right in the studies, when I tried to color my own illustrations they were all horrible. I bookmarked that page and a bunch of other resources I got from here last year to start learning actual color theory and applying it mentally after years of coloring from reference didn't seem to be helping. I just post here for unbiased eyes to make sure things look as okay as I think.

>>3409133
>>3409160
And just to clarify, all of that was spread out over the last 5 or 6 years. I probably could have done way more but I did them fairly often.
I'm not abandoning studies either. The one I'm working on now is turning out way better than any of the ones I did before and I think it's because I've been reading up on color theory and putting it into practice. I think now when I do studies I'll actually get something from them. I also think I need to keep doing the ones without reference to keep from being dependent on it.

>>3409160
do you have examples? 3 terms of painting at a college doesn’t sound like a lot, unless its at a good art school where they’re really pushing you.

the image you posted showed you were having some issues with showing form with value, the forms appear to flatten and they appear to be a bit ambiguous on the lighting.

Checkout these people on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/pixelpchan
https://www.instagram.com/dicetsutsumi/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/nathanfowkesart/?hl=en

All industry artists well regarded for their color use age. Notice all three of them have a ton of plein air and observational painting mileage.

Color light and other fundamentals are things you will be polishing for a lifetime, it can seem disheartening it’s really all there is to it.

Observation
Application
Logical understanding of rules of light

>>3409174
Just need to bear in mind, a lot of the best people are putting 40+ hours a week into this craft, for *years* and still getting improvements from fundamentals

>>3409178
>>3409179
I have some examples but I don't think there's really a point posting them. If I didn't do enough the answer is do more. If I did do enough, trying something new is the answer. Either way I'm doing both. Plus I'd have to gather the studies and a bunch of the drawings I tried to color by myself for you to really see the disconnect that was happening.
Anyway thank you for the note about pushing value and form, I will work on that and thanks for recommending these artists. I know it's going to take some time and honestly I don't think I'll ever be one of those artists known for their amazing color but comparing the replies I got on this to ones I've posted before I can tell I finally made some progress.

Just finished this portrait for mother's day/mum's birthday. Happy with despite anatomical wonkiness in a few spots
>>3409079
colors r sooooothing is it for anything? Some of the shapes probably need more definition (the animal mainly, i can't tell what that is)

>>3408828
Be smart about your perspective. You drew a ton of perspective lines but none of your characters actually confirm to the perspective lined out. Why even bother? You're trying to brute force it, be a bit smarter about it and sit back and think about how the perspective affects the characters. Like start small, with a thumbnail before you go all out like that.

>>3408199
Where is the contrast? Usually using greyscale is to get a better handle on the contrast and volumes, if you leave everything on the same tone level it ends up looking really, really muddy and boring. Try being less afraid of the contrast.
I'm not an expert on space marines but if I google a grey space marine miniature you can see it has a higher range of contrast than your painting.

I'm really trying to improve over all and I am doing studies plus anatomy/value studies. Can I please get a crit on this?

Does anyone know what those graphite or charcoal studies are called or how I can get into doing them? Like I'll put the time in but I am trying to be get to that next level but hitting a plateau. Thanks.

been working a long time on it not done yet my dudes!

Can anybody please give me feedback on this piece?
How is perspective?
How is tits physics?
Any major flaws?

>>3410782
Wow. What can you tell us?

>>3410782
This is awesome keep it up

>>3411005
I like that you can feel the roundness and the weight of her tits
Nice job

>>3407795
spooky, i like it

>>3411068

not sure really this is how it all began, i do drawing FROM THE IMAGINATION i strive to not copy things or look at other pictures so everything is basically as i 'think' it looks from my head/memory/experience with it

no google image search or looking at another picture so stuff isnt perfect or makes complete sense but i think it looks good

>>3408339
How is this Draw Thread going so slow?

>>3408023
NGMI

>>3411719
Trees and house should be perpendicular to the horizon line even on angled hill/surface. Gravity.

>>3410782
I really like this

>>3411486
where is the bottom half of her body going? is this is some magic car?
the HMG mount makes no sense either, that thing would just blow right off instantly if it actually fired

Hey, how are these? Been studying Vilppu I'm enjoying his book and I think it's helping.

>>3411848
>that_is_the_joke.jpg

I feel like I'm doing something very wrong on the girl on the left
Can someone redline me?

>>3411945
Also this.

birb

>>3408869
opinion discarded

It's draw fat asses on the beach season

its summer so im back in this bih

Here is a drawing I did today. Just started drawing this past week after procrastinating on process for too long for years. Finally feeling confident that I'll progress, so I want to post two pieces to see what kind of feed back I get.

>>3412452
Second piece.

Drawn, with mechanical pencil, then inked with sharpie pen, and colored with Crayola pencils.

>>3412024
Dope parrot

>>3411103
I like where it's going

>>3405112
Nice low key trippy piece

>>3411486
This is for the same project

#3412401

PSSSHHHHHHHFTHPHHTFFH

>>3412755
the hip replacement of the future

>>3412763
danke

>>3412401
Drew this girl today too

>>3412401
>>3412814
There's a knowledge behind your lines, I really like your work.

>>3412814
Jewess?

>>3412816
not much its kinda bad

>>3412822
meh, gets me laid

>>3412827
>using your art to pick up hipster sluts

gross dude

>>3412843
hipster sluts, older women, athletes, students, scientists, teachers, gamers, other artists... I'm not picky.

>>3412845
>athletes
thought you could sneak that in huh
no, just fat nerds and hipsters

everybody's posting masterpieces so i'm gonna post my piece of shit furry doodles

>>3412850
hello mr fox :)

>>3412876
Good stuff, anon, GMI.

>>3412024
doggy

>>3412876
i'm bored

>>3412907
>>3412951
i'm new here what the fuck do those mean

>>3412957
GMI is Gunna Masturbate (to) It
NGMI is Not Gunna ...

>>3412961
ah i see, thanks. so this is another one of those degen boards then

>>3412964
NGMI means Not Gonna Make It

>>3412965
ah i see, thanks. so this is another one of those incel boards then

>>3412951

>>3412969
well done

bought some dip pens a week or so ago, finally feel like i'm starting to get the hang of it

I still struggle with shadows and values, can someone quickly paint over this and show me how to get proper values? should I just put the values down a lot more harshly?

>>3412930

character o' mine

>>3413159 here
>>3412320
that's fuckin sick
>>3408804
LOVE this, it has a nice roughness to it despite the nice rendering
>>3408199
im no expert but i like the values on this a lot
>>3406432
cute little dino-boy!!!!
>>3402506
teach me ya ways massa
>>3401727
nice tones, beautiful rendering. What the fuck man.

so did the scolding work, and all the shitters went back to /beg/?

the standard on this thread has been outstanding lately. and it seems a lot more positive, too.

>>3413024
it looks like you're working with a 2H pencil, get a softer pencil and then focus on drawing like a sculptur a bit more, and youll notice hella difference. Check this vid out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC3OxonJcXQ

>>3408230
love it, though i dislike the purple AND blue;
it seems like they are fighting, try and take one closer to the tone of the other, otherwise it looks like they are just fighting.

>>3413201
watching it now, thanks a bunch

>>3399774
I just started drawing and my Friends are either not interested in art or just overly positive. I'd be glad if someone could give me some feedback.
I think my art is too sketchy and there is something wrong with their face proportions.

>>3412957
GMI - Gonna make it
NGMI - well... Not gonna make it

No degeneracy here most of the times.

>>3413159
This is great, but what the hell is wrong his her forearms? Are they made of jelly? I'm serious, do those arms have something to do with the character, because they are very fucked up compared to everything else. There goes a redline, but I'm still not sure if you need it, because you clearly know how to draw. Or maybe you can just draw hot faces and you're lacking anatomy. Idk

>>3413039
I prefer the bird. It has clearer shapes, brighter colors and some stylisation. This is just edgy tattoo art

could someone tell me how i can fix this, i would be very grateful, like i fucked up with the arm really bad and i see it but whenever i try to fix it its just wrong, even with ref, can somebody redline this or something so that i know what i can do to avoid this

>>3412814
>>3412816
>>3412822
>>3412827
>>3412843
>>3412845
>>3412850
>>3412877
this week on "brian talks to himself"

>>3413680
for all we know this is brian too

>>3401548
i like it.

You phoned it in on the feet though! lol.

>>3402736
fucking cool

>>3409079
beautiful

>>3410782
the thought of coloring in a darker background behind the skeleton gives me a boner.

so good

/Beg/
Is she cute?

>>3413481
you're totally right, i had complaints about the arms from friends who did art and i was just a fuckin dumbass who didnt know how to fix it desu

thank you for the redline

>>3412401
This is great. Really confident mark making.