/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3396416
Just draw already

>why don't you look for partnerships with people to draw their comics/books?

>Being someone's art cuck

absolutely not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXYoD7wfOs

>>3396420
>Working WITH someone =/= Working FOR someone
Sounds like reading comprehension is too much for you to handle already, anyways

Enjoy:
>A) making shitty art nobody will ever even look at twice.
or
>B) making shitty porn degenerate garbage people will only look at only to jerk one off.

>>3396416
is that a man

>>3396416
I had a coworker years back who said she did a comic strip in high school. She was plus-sized but I liked her and her sister, she acted in the local community theater plays and was into movies as well. There's always some stupid thing that pisses me off about someone though, I think in this case right when I was ready to make her a friend she said something about her church that just rubbed me the wrong way. I felt like I wouldn't be able to get her to switch denominations so I just left her alone. Anyway she couldn't draw and she didn't seem especially funny, but she could've brought her experience from acting onstage into my art. That could've been really interesting.

>>3396416
Agree with you, but the problem is, where to find those people? All my "internet friends" now only care about waifu/pornshit and my actual friends don't have creativity for nothing
A year ago I was working in a short comedy comic with a internet friend I was very close and actually considered a personal friend, sadly he passed away 6 months ago and only now I'm going back to drawing again

>>3396430
Suck my dick faggot. It takes like 5 minutes to write a paragraph of dialog or what's often less, it takes hours to draw a panel. I'll enjoy making whatever the fuck I want you obese moron.

>>3396512
every now and then I think of her... is she still acting, is she still joyful, is she still fat, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnPGwvvot3g

>just work together on projects bro
This is actually tougher than it sounds. even the people I do come into contact with eventually go AWOL because everyone already has their own projects which is a shame. I'd be down for making art assesst for a game, pixel art stuff. The problem is any higher level programming will probably require a programmer and they're usually employed. I suppose I could just work with other artists and keep the game a simple arcade style thing until more people are on board but with more artists you could probably do animation. People don't like working for free though so I'm stuck doing commissions until I can shovel money at someone.

>>3396416
Fuck you, pay me.
And i might think about it.

>>3396512
>Stop talking to someone just because of some shit they said
Hope you grew out that edgy phase, I was like that too once, until I realized I also talk a lot of shit I regret later and judging people like that is just retarded.

>>3396522
My condolences anon I lost someone important in life too, shit never gets better but we learn to live with it.

>>3396527
>Getting this angry when someone tells you the truth because you know you are another regular hack without talent
>Implying writing is easy when you probably can't write a semi-decent children's book in a span of a year
Yea, I bet all great writers and producers are just a bunch of hacks being carried by artists and actors, because anyone with 2 fingers can write a book in an afternoon since writing isn't a skill by your shitty logic, right?

Hope you break your own back while you suck your own dick, you Dunning-Kruger cuck.

>>3396572
>idea guys looking for free work for their gay ass "idea"
>"writers and producers"

Don't make me fucking laugh.

Brianne Drouhard is barely literate and her long-running webcomic has seen great success because of her cute art. You idea guys are a worthless fucking joke lmao, any artist that's insecure enough to work with one for free deserves everything they get, which is of course, nothing.

>>3396580
>Hobbyist shitter turning down people who actually wanna draw and making an carreer outta this
>''hurr durr anyone can make it with any idea and weeb art <insert anecdotal shitty e-celeb who is already 6000x lightyears ahead of you> therefore people looking to actually work and improve themselves instead of mindlessly doodling all day are retards
>''gayass/lmao''

Like every other shitter without any talent you try to bring everyone to the shitter zone with you.

Talk to me again when you become an actual artist who doesn't take 20H to make a shitty doodle, you casual shitter.

>>3396416
fuck off

>>3396594
Hi I am an actual artist, happy to see a fellow actual artist. But thanks to the anonymous nature of this site, I have reason to doubt your actual artist status. Please post work.

>>3396527
>it takes hours to draw a panel
Either you are overworking on the panel or you must have severe ADHD

>>3396612
>But thanks to the anonymous nature of this site, I have reason to doubt your actual artist status. Please post work
Kinda ironic how you don't even read your own post.

''Actual artist'' who wastes his time telling other people to not draw. Yea, totally believable.

>>3396627
oh shit you got me, I'm not an actual artist
but I'm not arguing for shit while you made an entire thread about this
so it's all you nigga ooga booga

>>3396614
>what is hyperbole
How many "word bubbles" does an average comic page have-particularly an amateur effort? Even if it takes you 10 minutes to draw an entire page (which it wouldn't if you gave a rat's ass about your work and what you're putting your name on) you're still running a time deficit with the amateur "writer". It's an inherently exploitative relationship and anyone that engages with it is stupid as shit, period.

If you don't have your own ideas and goals with your art than why are you an artist to begin with?-and if you became an artist because you wanted to draw a certain special interest subject irrespective of that than why would you stop that to draw someone else's special interest subject on someone else's behalf? It just doesn't make sense. No offense.

>>3396648
>90% of the pros make a living doing illustration for other people, not even a collab, most don't even own the thing they are drawing
>The other 10% like InCase are free but they still need to draw stuff for their patreon and shit with consistent deadlines
>"waaaahhhhhh why are you becoming an artist if not to draw your favorite anime girls for a living"
Holy shit you are a dense one, never crossed your egocentrical NEET mind for a instant, some people actually enjoy drawing for projects they like/to use their art in a mechanical way since they don't have talent to write their own stories

>>3396634
Except I made a valid points about collab, for starting artists who are bored and stalled in their careers.

But you of course had derail the thread for no reason, since you aren't even an artist, you are just a shitter with nothing better to do.

But here you go, a page I am working on at this moment, even tho I don't need to prove your cancerous ass anything.

>>3396648
Its your opinion how you see what an artist is for you, for some other people like myself, I enjoy working with someone after spending years doing art by myself to get a few likes on twitter.

Telling people to simply never draw to anyone but themselves directly is just a bad advice and huge projection from you. Very few people have the talent to be writers and illustrators at the same time.

I just posted this to encourage people to get somewhere if they are stuck in their life as an artist, and somehow most posts are shitposts from people who never even draw but somehow get butthurt with the idea of ''''''''''''''''''''''wasting''''''''''''''''' their '''''''''''''''''''''''''''talent''''''''''''''''''''''' by getting outta their ass and actually producing something.

Anyways I'm fucking out. Enjoy doodling mindless shit for the rest of your existence if that's what being an artist is for you.

>>3396672
Forgot the pic

>>3396659
can confirm, I like producing art in a mechanical way because i can never come up with anything to draw
i love meaninglessly making marks on paper so much that i even do it for free because that is just who i am beep boop

>>3396416
Show me a person who is serious about making his project, and I'll do art for it.
Not for free, though.

OP, I'll tell you this. If you want to draw something for someone else for free, then that's fine. Drawthreads are full of people who donate their time just because they can. And drawing is always better than not drawing. But it's no substitute for focused training. And some people here put tons of heart and soul into what they draw, so calling them casuals, or saying that they should devote their time to drawing what other people want, for free? That's not nice.

>>3396659
>I'm an egocentrical NEET
>for rightly warning people about starting long term free work in an inequitable scenario that is between 99% and 100% doomed to failure instead of wisely focusing on their own artistic goals

Ok

>>3396672
>Anyways I'm fucking out. Enjoy doodling mindless shit for the rest of your existence if that's what being an artist is for you.

This right here is exactly what idea scum think of artists in general. Anything an artist does themselves is "doodling mindless shit" until an idea guy has the magnanimity to show up with their wonderful ideas; artist merely exists for their convenience so long as they can keep the charade of flattery up. wew.

>>3396674
see pic you disgusting worm, have a little self respect

If you want to make it, the secret none of you have learned yet is that you need to leave /ic/. This is one of maybe six posts I’ve made here in five years. In 2013 anything I posted here was the butt of people’s jokes, now I work on movies. I doubt many people here will want to hear this but /ic/ and its toxic crab-filled environment is actively holding you down. Come here to pirate materials from the artbook thread, and browse no further. Find decent Discord and Hangout communities, and move on from there.

>>3397048
post a sketch

>>3397048
>actively holding you down
How?

>>3397048
this but unironically.
>>3397071
>>3397067
and here you see people getting offended when told the truth that /ic/ is not a good place to be in

>>3396416
Sauce?

>>3397074
Where are they offended? That one guy is asking a very reasonable question. How could /ic/ possibly hold you down unless you are a complete and utter moron and actually take things anonymous people on 4chan say to heart?

>>3397048
> This is one of maybe six posts I’ve made here in five years
>Come here to pirate materials from the artbook thread, and browse no further

Huh, that's strange. For someone who's only been here 6 times in the last 5 years, you're awfully familiar with the crab meme, which definitely hasn't been around back in 2013. It's also not exactly a meme that's usually being posted in the art book thread, so something doesn't add up.

>>3397048
>if you don't agree to work for free for some loser pretending to be your friend to expoloit your time and energy you're a crab
>also I don't even use this board even though I'm referencing a meme that's less than 6 months old lmao

>>3397079
>ooga booga lurker??? lol wuts lurker???? thinking hurt brain here have some memes
the absolute state of crabs

>>3397326
>DURR I ONLY POSTED 6 TIMES IN 5 YEARS BUT I'VE BEEN REFRESHING THIS BOARD EVERY FIVE MINUTES THE ENTIRE TIME YOU SHOULD FOLLOW MY GOOD EXAMPLE AND LEAVE /ICl/ LIKE I DID I WORK IN MOVIES AND SHIT LOL

fucking retard

>>3397334
>>3397326
Just draw, please.
For the sake of us all.

>>3397326
>DURR I ONLY POSTED 6 TIMES IN 5 YEARS BUT I'VE BEEN REFRESHING THIS BOARD EVERY FIVE MINUTES THE ENTIRE TIME YOU SHOULD FOLLOW MY GOOD EXAMPLE AND LEAVE /IC/ LIKE I DID I WORK IN MOVIES AND SHIT LOL

fucking retard

>>3396512
>can't be FRIENDS with someone outside your denomination
I'd get it if you were trying to date her, but jesus you're autistic.

>>3396416

>>3397341
>U CN ONLY LURK DE SAME TIM U POST OR THE WHOL 5 YEARS U JUST MNTIONED NO OTHER TIMEFRAME IS BELIEVABLE
lul
>>3397339
Shitting on crabs while taking a break is fun.

>>3397496
>implying you've ever completed a work in your life.

>>3397048
shut up crab

>>3397496
>U CN ONLY LURK DE SAME TIM U POST OR THE WHOL 5 YEARS U JUST MNTIONED NO OTHER TIMEFRAME IS BELIEVABLE

What the fuck are you even saying you retarded faggot? You told everyone to "leave /ic/" like "you did" when you "made it" (LOOOOL)

(>>3397048)

but you defended being familiar with contemporary board culture because you've been lurking this entire time (DURRRR)

(>>3397326)

So case in point:

1. You never left
2. You never made it
3. You never will make it
4. Kill yourself you autistic hypocrite lmao

>>3396634
You sure showed him

>>3396512
I like california crisis, a shame there are only 480p vhs rips of it

>>3396572
Sauce on girl?

>>3397832
Talk to me again when you become an actual artist who doesn't take 20H to make a shitty doodle, you casual shitter.

>>3397048
WORDS OF TRUTH

>>3396696

I think he meant it for those who aren't casuals, but those who aren't achieving their full potential.