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Improvement Thread

>> No.3388294

I envy these people that can stick to a piece and do it to the end despite obvious shortcomings.
I get too self aware and never commit to anything.
How do i allow myself to fail and learn ?

>> No.3388301

>>3388294
If you're old enough to be self-aware, you won't be able to improve naturally and without stressing like hell.

Thank FUCK I started studying tutorials and slowly learning when I was 10-12 so I could just draw away without realizing that I was doing godawful weeaboo shit.

>> No.3388302

>>3388282
I would do this but I lost everything i've had over like 2 years ago

>> No.3388319

>>3388301
Strangely enough i've suffered through that stress since Childhood. I remember trying to copy the cover for the matrix vhs and doing ok till i tried to do some stupid weapon keanu held in his hands and failed. Everyone told me how cool the drawing was but i knew that it didn't work but i didnt understand why.
I got so frustrated i just threw it away and didnt touch a pencil for a while.

My point is ive always been insecure or somewhat self aware. Even if i do have somewhat of a grasp of fundamentals i'm almost a cripple when it comes to doing anything for real and not some study

>> No.3388328
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3388328

I have drawn my whole life, it's always been my passion. Here's a bit of my progress

2007/2008: was a literal full blown weeaboo kid (12 yo) saying things like "baka KAWAII DESU >w< on DeviantArt. Yeah, it's pretty embarassing

2010: started taking things more seriously, studied tutorials, still very weeaboo but with more dignity

Then high-school happened, started drawing waaaay less, but still doodle here and there.

During college I stopped drawing completely, which is funny because I was studying Design.

After finishing college I reignited my passion and decided to start making some money from my art. HUGE improvement in a very short amount of time, thanks to better tutoriais and a more mature mindset.

Now I basically only draw porn. I feel like I don't doodle much, I only ever post finished pieces, which I don't know if it's a good thing or bad.

>> No.3388349

>>3388328
You were cringey when you were 12, and you're still cringey now. You haven't changed at all anon.

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3388351

>>3388349

>> No.3388352

>>3388294
Drop your ego, admit to yourself that you are shit, and that you need to work to improve. It's really not that bad once you do

>> No.3388353

>>3388349

post your work

>> No.3388408

>>3388301
this

>> No.3388413

>>3388328
so how did you get from 07-08 to 2010 and onward. did you study loomis and other stuff or just animu stuff

>> No.3388414

>tfw you haven't really improved at all in the last 6 years

>> No.3388435

>>3388413

First I focused on the basic shapes (construction), to make my drawings less flat and more "3D". Before, I would never sketch anything out, just go directly into lineart and the countour of the form, instead of focusing on the building blocks

The second turning point was *actually* studying anatomy from real life (medical anatomy, etc) to really understand where each muscle was. I'm still not perfect at this, so I rely a lot on REFERENCES. You seriously need references. Not other drawings, but photos. I never tried being too realistic, I went straight from translating the reference photo to stylization, but I understand that's not a popular approach here on /ic/. I did it by figuring out what did change between realism and anime, and what doesn't change.

At the same time, I also studied color theory a lot. Basic stuff like not shading with black, complementary colors, etc. This is one of the key parts in making things appealing.

Right now in the present I'm working on gesture and making my poses more fluid and less stiff.

>> No.3388440

>>3388328
if i were to see this picture with no context at all.
I would say that theres not much improvement here.
Now that i read your description I can see why you improved so slowly.
Doodles can help you draw a little faster imo but its also good to get a finished product as well.
I hope you keep improving more and good luck to you.

>> No.3388443

>>3388435
so what would you recommend for someone trying to get to what your at. books ect ect ?

>> No.3388445

>>3388328
Your 2010 drawings look better desu

>> No.3388462

>>3388443
Proko is very good. Don't even need to pay, his free videos on YouTube are great. He covers everything in anatomy and figure drawing.

For coloring, which is the part I am the most passionate about, it all started with this tutorial: https://glitchedpuppet.deviantart.com/art/How-I-See-Color-A-Tutorial-184642625

Color and Light by James Gurney is also an excellent book, even if you're not really going for ultra realism.

I don't have an opinion on Loomis.

>>3388445
They really don't.

>> No.3388466

>>3388328
You're obviously more skilled now, but imagine how much better you'd be at anime if you stuck with anime instead of switching to western shit. I guess it's possible you just don't like anime style anymore but it looks so much better in my opinion and it's a shame to see you throw it away like that. You could be pretty good at anime if you stuck with it!

>> No.3388470

>>3388462
You didn't draw dicks on everything in 2010 tho

>> No.3388474

>>3388466
...I'm western shit now? I thought this was still very anime? What about any of the 2018 drawings is western? Genuinely curious.

Is the lack of dot noses and mouths? Can't say I miss those, and plenty of anime aren't like that. My eyes are still definitely "anime". Hell, that Gladion x Guzma drawing is 95% true to the on-model concept art.

I guess you mean it's not "moe", "Pixiv-style" anymore, which I guess is fair.

>>3388470
Dicks are great, anon.

>> No.3388482

Why is nobody posting their progress?
Why is this board so dead?

>> No.3388485

>>3388482
Im not posting mine cause anons will laugh at me and im very sensitve

>> No.3388486
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3388486

Haven't improved as much as I should, most likely didn't draw as much as i should. Grinding daily, currently -- hopefully three years down the road there'll be more change from today.

>> No.3388491

>>3388486
Nice stuff anon. The thing you need to work on the most is definitely VALUES, though.

>> No.3388494
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>> No.3388498

>>3388494
you really worked hard on those bodies

>> No.3388500

>>3388491
I think you're right on the money, i really struggle to push values. Will make it a priority to work on, thanks anon.

>> No.3388515

>>3388474
the way you draw face shapes and features and your decision to render facial structure makes it more western. its obviously anime inspired but the style isnt as explicitly anime anymore

>> No.3388526
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3388526

its hard for me to compile my work, im always doing something different every year. for 2018 i've mostly been doing turn arounds and refining designs as well as compositional layouts so i cant compare that to my character paintings which i stopped doing, and nowadays im focusing on zbrush

>> No.3388554
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3388554

I started to study art seriously in 2017

>> No.3388558

>>3388554
cute!

>> No.3388629

>>3388319
Draw something bad intentionally like some sketches or whatever you'd like. Knowing you're shit is the first step in becoming better. Good luck, Anon. And if you're still insecure in doing something for real, compare your previous drawings to your current ones. Hopes this helps.

>> No.3388724

>>3388554
pretty good man.

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3388738

Posted in a different thread but post got deleted. Didn't know porn wasn't allowed there. This is about a year apart.

>> No.3388785

>>3388328
looking over your forms and proportions ...sorry but
you've improved hardly at all in 8 years. the only thing that's significantly different are your thicker lines and lazier-looking style. there's so much less love in your 2018 work compared to 2010

>>3388526
it's not enough to draw a couple times a week. you've got to do more, anon. more! only then will you see those gains!

>>3388554
you've got a long ways to go, but you started on your journey to being better and that's what matters

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>>3388328
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4
>OH MY GOD DONT TRY

>> No.3388941
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3388941

This is probably the only image I've every redrawn of my old art. It's always been a hobby but I actually want to get better at drawing now.

>> No.3388958

>>3388328
anon said they started back up seriously after college, I'm assuming they attended for four years. Assuming this: 2014-now, improvement in 4 years to unlearn all their bad habits from 07, 08, and 10 is perfectly acceptable. They've made a very visible shift to seeing forms as 3D rather than 2D, which is one (of the many things) that consistently stumps people coming from an anime-style background.

>> No.3389033
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3389033

started studying last summer
need to into backgrounds

>> No.3389098

>>3388482
Im not posting here because nobody cares shit about me or what i post.

>> No.3389103

>>3389033
Pretty cool stuff! Yeah, some backgrounds would be nice to see you learn.

>> No.3389111

>>3388482
Because you started the thread with a meme pic instead of posting your own progress

>> No.3389138

>>3388941
2008 feels more like anime to me, i liked it more than 2018

>> No.3389188

>>3388294
>>3388301
Here's the trick: drink beer before and while practicing.

>> No.3389195
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3389195

>>3389188
Pic related, it's how natis got gud. Some alcohol goes ways into boosting your confidence.

>> No.3389297

>>3388941
how old are you anon?

>> No.3389344

>>3388835
he says "do I try" you fucking retard

>> No.3389355

How can I improve faster? I've been in a plateau for quite a few years, maybe I even got worse, because of the stress of failing

>> No.3389373

>>3389355
change it up, draw different stuff, or try some animation or something like that.

>> No.3389418

>>3389297
Old enough to fuck ur mum

>> No.3389436
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>>3389195
This looks like some pedo shit, anon

>> No.3389444

>>3389436
so every animator who made an animation of a kid character is a pedo now?

>> No.3389449

>>3389195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=243vPl8HdVk
reminds me of this

>> No.3389454

>>3389436
>he doesn't know
Oh dear

>> No.3389468
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3389468

>>3388328
You definitely improved but I honestly have to gravitate toward your 2010 drawings more because they don't make me cringe anon. Did you become obsessed with penises in college or what?

>> No.3389587
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3389587

Started trying to learn last month xP

>> No.3389589

>>3388328
>>3388486
>>3388494
>>3388554
>>3389587
How did /ic/'s standards drop so much since 2017 jesus christ

>> No.3389591

>>3389589
You did it. You gave 3389587 a reply. Over the past couple months, I have not seen a single person respond to their stuff and here you go breaking that streak.

>> No.3389595

>>3389591
They need to be called out. I've met people like them in real life; they genuinely think that their art is good and will never know how bad they are until somebody tells them

>> No.3389598

>>3389595
Sorry dude, I'm pretty sure they're beyond helping.

>> No.3389599
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3389599

>>3389589
you can blame people like me.
in 2016, there was a lot of backlash on how autistic /ic/ was about loomis, vilppu, bridgman, etc. and how you should have formal training on construction and perspective for a few years before attempting the figure. More and more people were like
>drawing should be fun man
>enough of this elitist stuff
but no. that was a mistake. look at the /beg/ thread. There are no fundamental excercises from loomis at all, and its pretty much identical to /i/
OH, and also, /ic/ is getting shilled a lot outside 4chan. A lot of people from instagram and tumblr view /ic/ as a legit art community instead of a 4chan board for some reason.

But, if people like you show up more, i expect we'll be back to normal in 2020.

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3389600

>>3389188

>tfw my life drawing is far more natural once I'm several shots of tequila in

I hate this

>> No.3389617

>>3389444
Not same anon
but its the poses and the angles that make it very questionable

>> No.3389628

>>3388328
2018 should have been 2011. you have a long fucking way to go

>> No.3389640
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3389640

my first was that one but it was made with ms paint

>>3389591
:D

>>3389595
Yeah i stiil have a lot to learn '-- i'm far from drawing sonic characters/ocs correctly

>>3389598
D:

>> No.3389655

>>3389138
I'm trying to do a more western style but it's not working out

>> No.3389657

>>3389297
Late 20s

>> No.3389672

>>3389589
Can you explain your issue with mine? (Blue bg.) i’m always down for crit, even vague or general.

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3389673

>>3389436
>>3389444
>>3389617
>>3389454
Lads, natis is THE western pedo artist. Pretty sure he has been to prison before over cee pee he downloaded after a bad break up. Anyways, guy's a great artist and I hope he starts posting again soon, his blog hasn't been updated since last december.

>> No.3389680

>>3389673
really good

>> No.3389683

>>3389673
what is cee pee

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>>3389683

>> No.3389697
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>>3389686
>>3389673
why people can't download cee pee? >>3389683
he's a good singer

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3389702

>>3389673
looks like he's good forms
But how's his finished linework?

>> No.3389707

>>3388941
I like your newest style best, but I like the posing in the top 2 better. They gave a clearer idea of what was going (the bottom doesn't show their poses as clearly and distinctly; imo it would look better if the girl was the one in the back on that one)

>> No.3389715
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3389715

>>3389702
Pretty good, he worked as a pro for years before he got v&. He also does some realistic stuff wich I find really hit or miss.

>> No.3389717

>>3389587
Not much to say in general since you just started out, but you're making a lot of progress and fast. Keep it up, Anon.

>> No.3389721

>>3389717
Thanks! :)

>> No.3389728

>>3389673
Got link to his works, Anon? I can't seem to find him

>> No.3389734
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>>3389728
Sadly, his loli porn blog got nuked off the face of the Earth. Most of what was saved can still be found on hotwheel's /loli/ board. His personal blog still exists though and has a lot of sketches, here's the link johnstonblackhorsetheoneandonly(dot)blogspot(dot)com

>> No.3389736

>>3389707
She's the main character so I wouldn't want her behind the other one. It`d probably be easier to read if it was coloured since their colours are different. But I'm not good at posing my images at all.

>> No.3389737

>>3389673
>>3389702
>this is western
But he's so good. Was he asian too?

>> No.3389741

>>3389737
He's native american iirc.

>> No.3389762

>>3389728
Gallery /1205371/dd5a9ace40/ on exhentai. god rest his soul

>> No.3389765

>>3389762
Holy shit I never thought of that, thanks anon.

>> No.3389777

>>3389468
I was always obssessed with penises, just never made the connetion that I could draw them AND make money from it.

>>3388958
Actually seven years. It was high-school + college, so I actually only had one year of serious grinding.

>> No.3389802
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3389802

i know i definitely haven't made as much progress as i could have/should have but trying not to discourage myself and keep drawing.
right is still unfinished because finals

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3389816

I need to find more of my older work, my stuff is pretty hit or miss so the best of one year looks as good as another. At least my consistency is slowly improving

>> No.3389841

>>3389802
lol that's such classic /ic/ 'progression'

>> No.3389859

>>3389816
i don't get it are you a pederast or what?

>> No.3389866

>>3389841
Not them but what did you mean by this?

>> No.3389875

>>3389816
you would be really amazing, if you had some backgrounds to show off. Most of these are character designs. But still pretty good art anon

>> No.3389882

>>3389841
goes from finished but crappy to analysis paralysis

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3389885

>>3389816
>tfw seeing fishers stuff back in 2014
>It's been 4 years and not even close to 2014 fisher

>> No.3389953

>>3389816
>draws pedo shit
>literally cripples himself voluntarily
>improves at snail speed because of it
you are a complete moron.

>> No.3389972
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3389972

8 months progress i drew when i was a kid and wanted to give it another shot

>> No.3389976

>>3389972
stop chicken scratching and make your forms more 3d with perspective. the guy in the lower right is very flat. and draw backgrounds. I would honestly look at some anatomy right now, and redraw everything on that page if you want to improve. Redraw everything there till it looks right.

Honestly curious though, are you a girl or a gay guy?

>> No.3389990

>>3389976
im a girl i like gay stuff but yaoí its not appealing for me , i prefer more manly men

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3389992

This is what happens when you become a uni drop out.

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>> No.3390006

>>3389953
Who let the newfag in?

>> No.3390007

>>3389990
make your men more manly and give them clothes while your at it

>> No.3390188

>>3389953
Yeah I'm not gonna deny that. I might have a half decent portfolio by now if I weren't so busy drawing heinous shit

>>3389875
Working on it

>>3389859
Believe it or not I prefer bara
>>3389885
Just keep at it. My pre 2014 stuff was shit and I've been drawing forever

>> No.3390301

>>3389672
You learned art backwards. You're focusing on rendering techniques when you should be focusing on things like construction and perspective

>> No.3390576

>>3388554
How is it you had a decent understanding of shading before you could even draw a face?
How is that such a common thing?
Every shit artist on deviantart that can't even draw a circle can shade and pick their values damn near perfectly while I can every seen to figure out how shadows should fall on an object or pick my values to save my life.

>> No.3390587

>>3390576
Not him but I'm the same way. I felt quite comfortable with rendering but struggled very hard with faces, and still do. I studied construction as hard as I could but I just never could make faces look right.

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3390812

Gonna namefag for this thread, so people who remember my old stuff can see the improvement (if there is any)

made this last september, idk what I was thinking.

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3390814

>>3390812
Made this recently, still a /beg/ but I think there has been improvement in all kinds of areas.

>> No.3390913

>>3389673
Read blog - after what you said
>Gets on probation
>Goes back to drawing CP
>Cops come arrest him again
>Boohoo I didn't know pedo art was illegal (Months prior showing concern that draw loli was illegal)
>Brother says no more updates are going to happen.
Fucking dipshit loser.

>> No.3390916

>>3390188
What's a name I can look up to reliably find more of your stuff?

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3390935

>>3390913
>reading comprehension
the guy who was judging his case gave him a thumbs up to keep drawing loli. Then the judge changed with a new one and that's when it got sour.

>> No.3391034

>>3388294
Draw what you can first and then expect to do it again. I try drawing something and lose my shit because I feel like I lost my skill. Then, after an hour of self-hatred, I draw again and it gets easier. Fucking up and looking at why you fucked up is just par for the course. It feels worse to not do something out of being afraid of failure than if you tried and failed.

>> No.3391044

>>3389976
Not her, but how do I avoid chicken-scratching?

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3391149

>>3388301
>>3388352
>>3388629
>>3389188
>>3391034

Thanks /ic/ brehs. i'm the original guy whining about not finishing anything becaue of insecurity and frustration. Y'all have inspired me to do something and this is what came out.
I know it's shit but hey at least it is finished

>> No.3391165

>>3390814
i dig it

>> No.3391179

>>3390913
>>3390935

what shithole country is this where it's illegal to draw "loli?" How can a drawing be underaged. Got to be Britain or something.

This is why we'll never give up our guns.

>> No.3391191

>>3391179
America. Like I said, the first judge was ok with it and told him to keep drawing but when the second one found out he was still doing it things got bad.

>> No.3391193

Is porn banned here? or more specifically loli/shota? Yesterday I got banned in this thread and the only thing in the ban reason that applied to me was that maybe my drawing looked like a loli but I'm seeing loli/shota shit all over here not being removed.

>> No.3391199

>>3391191

>America.

It is 100% legal to draw whatever the fuck you want in America.

>> No.3391201

>>3391193
Explicit loli porn in general is banned outside of /b/ because the site consistently got raided over it. Shit sucks and normalfags keep being hypocrites, mootkins was severely understaffed back in the day and it was too much work. Now that we actually have the staff to take care of that, hiroshima keeps blabbering about "muh ads!" even though 4chan has never been profitable in the first place.

>> No.3391217

>>3391201
>explicit

I don't know why mine got picked out. You saw a pussy and asshole but they weren't being fucked. I'm seeing shota dicks in clear view and a loli asshole being filled here and nothing is happening there.

>> No.3391234

>>3391201
does hiroshima not have his own server.

>> No.3391255

>>3391201
>4chan has never been profitable
hiroshimoot makes good bitcoin selling our data to the information mafias of the world

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wasted time updating this instead of drawing. 2017 was mostly trad, 2018 is feeling pretty digital - been too lazy to sit at the table

>> No.3391426

>>3390004
I think it would be nice to see how you draw the characters of 2015/2016 nowadays

>> No.3391444
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3391444

>>3390576
Stylization. I know how to draw a face, anon.

>> No.3391472

>>3391444
why did you post that then

>> No.3391481

>>3391472
Because it was a drawing of the same character over a four year period of time.

>> No.3391491

>>3391481
i mean this one skinnie penis.png, where the face isn't painted well, that's the joke :)

>> No.3391501

>>3391491
You're not that good at delivering jokes, anon.

>> No.3391505

>>3391501
well you're not that good at drawing faces, heyooo

>> No.3391518

>>3391505
Appreciated

>> No.3391537
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Looking at some of my older stuff is painful. Didn't include the stuff I was drawing on my ipad in 2013, though, as putting out stuff from when I had no actual experience/knowledge of anatomy [as opposed to my mediocre knowledge now] isn't something I want to do.

>> No.3391575

>>3388328
Where can I see your stuff so I can jack off to it?

>> No.3391579

Jesus Christ, is there anyone good in this god-forsaken place.

>> No.3391584

>>3391481
>>3391501
Don't get all depressed dude that guy was a jerk

>> No.3391618

>>3391537
nice, slow but steady

>> No.3391633

>>3391618
i guess being at a complete stop can be called steady

>> No.3391639
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3391639

Been quite the journey desu

>> No.3391663

>>3391575
Gay

>> No.3391666

>>3389449
wat lol???????

>> No.3391696

>>3391310
your 2018 so far looks bad compared to 16-17. You can do better.

>> No.3391697
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3391697

>>3391618
>>3391633
I definitely feel I regressed/stagnated in 2015/2016, and in 2017 I wasn't in a position to actually use my tablet for most of the year, so that's fair. There's a lot of really wonky stuff from '14/'15 that I didn't put in, and leaving those out definitely makes my output look a lot more stagnant than were they in.
I mostly just do pixel art, though, so maybe that would've been a better way of showing progression?

>> No.3391699

>>3391579
post your work

>> No.3391717

>>3391639
i really like this progress.

to people who have been doing this for a long time, ill be starting out with a pencil/paper because i really like the styles you can do - how do drawing skills with pnecil and paper translate to a tablet pen once you're good?

>> No.3391743

>>3391639
wtf how

teach me

>> No.3391744

>>3391575
https://baphometbimbo.tumblr.com

>> No.3391748

>>3391717
if it's a screen tablet, instantly, as long as you know how to use software

if it's just a regular non-screen tablet, it takes some getting used to, and the disconnect between hand and screen is always there

>> No.3391877

>>3391743
just draw lol

>> No.3391884

>>3390812
>>3390814
I remember you. What was supposed to be going on in the top picture?

>> No.3391899

>>3391884
I dont even remember. I think it was supposed to be the guy calling the girl.

>> No.3392054

>>3388486
anon you definitely digressed

>> No.3392085
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3392085

was into digital a mistake?

>> No.3392199

How many people here actually went through any of the books in the /ic/ sticky

>> No.3392255
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3392255

Stopped for 3 years after making some comics here and there. Nothing impressive... Getting back into drawing by doodling and sketching at work

>> No.3392262

>>3391697
looks a lot better anon

>> No.3392748

>>3391697
Is that the dungeon from terraria?

>> No.3393479

bump

>> No.3393653

>>3389599
This. If the want fun drawing go to >>>/i/, here you git gud.

>> No.3393659

>>3391310
Can I just fucking say how much I appreciate the fuckin statistical data of this image? Not just days spent drawing but what you spent it on. Delicious.

Your current style isn't my particular dish (long skinny limbs aren't appealing to me but I get what you're going for) but it/s really cool to see how different aspects of your art change and improve over time. It's hard because I think there appear to be some 'dips in quality' where really you're just sticking your neck out to learn new skills which is kinda necessary in art.

I think more recent years you've focused a lot more on imagination stuff and most recently seems like dynamic posing/composition seems to be your focus. I might spend a bit more time with references/copies like you used to, I think it made your imagination stuff really shine.

>> No.3393737

>>3390913
>getting arrested and possibly prison sentence for drawings

Jesus fucking Christ what a joke of a country.

>> No.3393960

>>3389033
>never properly finished the Bondrewd one

Disappointing

>> No.3393963

>>3393653
Drawing should always be fun. Nobody like loud mouthed fake masochist that whine all day about how they hate their art to fish for pussy pity and karma points

>> No.3394098
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>> No.3394100

Why is /ic/ filled with furries and gays

>> No.3394103 [DELETED] 

>>3394100
furry is loife fury is luv

>> No.3394112

>>3394100
pedo gay furries*

>> No.3394146

>>3394098
Best one is the rabbit with the bow, do more stuff like that.

>> No.3394167

>>3394098
at least it seems like he/she is trying harder in 2018 (like that apple study) though I'm not into furfag shit

>> No.3394168

>>3394098
that 2018 dragon girl is a cutie

>> No.3394171

I started on this board and I had the shittiest stuff, but tattooing can get you places, people actually pay for my work now???

>> No.3395032

>>3391310
>chicken grew a cock
was that strictly necessary anon

>> No.3395383
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3395383

Any thoughts?

>> No.3395411

>>3395383
How often do you practice?

>> No.3395415

>>3395411
Daily (from 5 min. a day to 8 hours or so, in average something like 1.5/hr a day).

>> No.3395421

>>3395415
Well there's definitely improvement but 4 years is a long time my dude.

I like the way you rendered the apples so I'm a little disappointed that you went with deviantart-tier rendering for Misa (it can look nice at a high level though).

>> No.3395423

this thread is fucking groc you people are fucking weird

>> No.3395425

>>3395421
thnx!

(with Misa and other anime-style drawings I'd like to archive pixiv-style generic rendering, not a best goal ever, though...)

>> No.3395430

>>3394098
did you draw infinite in his underwear?

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3395485

>>3395423
This thread is great, shut up faggot

>> No.3395515

>>3395383
you need to up your anime game.

>> No.3395531

>>3395515
Yeah... need to admin - I draw anime stuff quite rarely, a few pics a year, I guess. 99% of my drawings - studies for the sake of studies.

>> No.3395535

>>3395531
Thats good you're doing a lot of study. Great anime comes from good fundies and observing how other good anime artists interpret those fundies. You'll see the connections all over the place.

>> No.3395545

>>3395535
Thanks mate! :3

>> No.3395554

>>3395383
Need to work on forms. Try Hampton

>> No.3395561

>>3395554
I've already read it (as well as Loomis, Vilppu, Hogarth, Civardi, Hamm, Robertson, you name it...). But yeah, I have an idea to read "Design and invention" once more, it'll worth it 100%. Right now I'm attending course on academic drawing, probably it'll be much help too (all previous years - self education only, without any tutor). Thanks for the advice anyway!

>> No.3395956

>>3392085
Yes

>> No.3395959

This thread is really sad. Watching people that probably spend more hours per day during more years improve like shit is demoralizing

>> No.3395987

>>3389587
are you 10 wtf

>> No.3395998
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3395998

I want to go back to when i still had time, grind while u can anons, u never know when life will hit u and when it does, it hits as a fking truck

>> No.3396008

Damn I haven't drawn in a long time. I used to do it with my little sister, she'd be drawing a typical little girl's drawing and I'd be drawing some animal.
For some reason I could never get myself to draw something cartoony, it had to be realistic with perfect proportions.

>> No.3396010

>>3395383
I like the life stuff the most. The apple from 2018 looks really good as well as the colouring on Misa but everything else is kinda meh. But don't give up

>> No.3396060

>>3395998
tf you did to learn like that. TELL ME FUCKING TELL ME DO IT I NEED TO KNOW I NEEEEEEEEED IT

>> No.3396063

I see a lot of you anons make shit ton of money from drawing penises, where do you get these comissions from?

>> No.3396091
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3396091

July 2017 vs yesterday

I can't stop drawing these guys, does this say something about my psyche?

>> No.3396130

>>3396060
Loomis

>> No.3396157

>>3396060
>Left: draw from memory
>Right: draw from a picture.

>> No.3396177

>>3396091
That you find them easy to do and you keep doing them instead of challenging yourself which would eventually lead to some objective improvement.

>> No.3396195

>>3396177
Do you have any suggestions on how I can improve?

They are admittedly easy as hell and I like drawing them, but I'm not sure what to do to improve the style

>> No.3396197

>>3396195
Do things you are not used to (unless you want to stick to that style). How does a bodybuilder become stronger? By lifting more weight than he is used to. Search something more complex than what you are used to.

>> No.3396200

>>3396195
unironically drop drawing and take up knitting

>> No.3396207

>>3396197
>does the same thing but with more weight
you heard the faggot, get a thicker brush and keep churning those turds

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3396276

>>3388282
This is from someone I used to know, It's from 2009.
The next one I'm going to post is the the level he's at after 9 years and literally more than 2200 pictures published.

>> No.3396278
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3396278

>>3396276

>> No.3396292

>>3396063
>Tumblr and FurAffinity
>Draw sexy fanart of popular stuff (Pokemon, LoZ, etc)
>Tag accordingly
>Get followers
>Say you are open for commissions and make a price chart
>Profit

>> No.3396305
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>>3396200
unironically get off my board ree

>> No.3396444
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3396444

I know you're supposed to put the old one on the left but oh well

>> No.3396461

>>3396444
Shading has improved.
She's smiling.
You've got a background.

Hair is arguably worse as it's been compartmentalised into front, mid, and back.

>> No.3396477
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>>3396461
Thanks. Here's the whole picture actually. I kinda fucked up her arms :/ their lengths aren't consistent.

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3396493

>>3396157
yeah.. thought something was off about the latest pic

>> No.3396494
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3396494

>>3396477
Try to think of the hair as if it were real and had one end connected to the scalp.
I know it sound super obvious, but it's so so common to just consider it as separate thing you paste on top of the character.

>> No.3396497

>>3391639
i legit want blue ghost (fiddlesticks?) as my screensaver

>> No.3396506
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3396506

humans are too hard
i draw rocks now

>> No.3396520

>>3391310
This is inspiring because I've just been trying to copy anime starting out too.

>> No.3396526

>>3391310
You learned things as you went on, but failed to imcorporate them into your style, and so when you applied them, as you hit 2018, its clear you lost what made your art unique, that gritty FLCL style will be missed

>> No.3396573

>>3388328
Where can I get a bigger pic of the two 2010 ones?

>> No.3396644

>>3391639
wonderful work anon, keep going

>> No.3396679

>>3389816
Yo m dude can I get your blog? Dig your work

>> No.3396918

>>3396506
That's fantastic. Rocks are arguably more polite.

What suggestions do you have to draw rocks?

>> No.3397230
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3397230

honk

>> No.3397231

>>3389449
my fuckn ears

>> No.3397270

>>3397230
Pretty neat style you've developed, can we see another example?

>> No.3397297

>>3397230
You cured your cancer and came back stronger.

Anon is right, neat style

>> No.3397323

>>3396060
I grinded like 5-6 hours everyday, since my focus was being able to draw cool and beautiful portraits i focused on that, only on portraits, i did read a bit of Loomis but his influence was almost inexistent

>>3396157
U were almost correct, except for the fact that left side, 2 of the 3 images were drawn with reference too... which is even worst...

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3397329

>>3397323

>> No.3397354
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3397354

come, sit by the bonfire....never leave, stay the same, with me, forever.
there is no need to get any better, just remain....still.
like me, with me....
forever.

1/2

>> No.3397397

>>3391199
In some states that's not entirely true.
People have been arrested, but usually it's in connection to actual cp.

>> No.3397415
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3397415

>>3397270
>>3397297

>> No.3397434

>>3397230
>those ankles on 2015
holy hell

>> No.3397584

>>3397354
2015 seems like you gave up

>> No.3397590
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3397590

>>3397354
2/2

>>3397584
kinda just gave up on/got bored with replicating what i saw.

>> No.3397624
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3397624

at least i'm not a homestuck trash anymore lole

>> No.3397649

>>3397624
femanon?

>> No.3397660

>>3397649
yeah

>> No.3397986

>>3391696
> 16-17
I always considered Oct 2015 to be my peak. Kinda hoping that by the end of 2018, i’ll figure out digi.

>>3393659
good feedback - studies are great, I just go on auto pilot and draw. Trying too hard recently to no just do copies.

>>3396520
>copying anime
Ehhh whatever helps you get pen on paper

>>3396526
>gritty FLCL style
Which time point was this?

>>3395032
The cock with a growing cock is clearly a metaphor for my turgid growth

>> No.3398021

>>3388328
I think your art is decent for an hobbyist.

>> No.3398087

>>3397986
Was that 2013 stuff not just trying to copy anime?

>> No.3399492

>>3397230
Hey rat lady from Scotland you're my artfu

>> No.3399501

>>3390916
>>3396679
thatfisher.tumblr.com

>> No.3399980

>>3398021
Is it just a hobby if he makes money from it, though?

>> No.3400826

>>3394146
I don't usually draw that sort of thing, but if you say so
>>3394167
>>3394168
Thanks!
>>3395430
Yup!

>> No.3401231
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3401231

2015-2018

>> No.3402101

>>3401231
this makes me so mad, had a girl on my master degree that was like this, 0 improvement even now after a yeah, and this is 3, please it is not working change the game try diferent methods

>> No.3402282

>>3402101
english?

>> No.3402387

>>3395383
i feel like you should do a lot more life drawing for a while

>> No.3402424

>>3402282
I'll translate for him: "Always do what you've always done and you'll always get what you've always got".

>> No.3403601

>>3401231
i think he tried to say that if you keep drawing like the way that you drawing you wont improving so you have to try new different things to improve your style draw
like its the same you keep doing the same

>> No.3406174

>>3401231
Your structures and terrain are much better than your characters.

>> No.3406220
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3406220

>>3388282
i didn`t find this thread a moment ago... well.

>> No.3406284

>>3396276
>>3396278
that's rough. I guess there's something to envy in someone who can consistently create garbage thousands of times yet still not give up.

>> No.3406292

>>3397354
>>3397590
Well I like your stuff man.

>> No.3408883

>>3397624
ironically your homestuck fanart would probably look loads better if you redrew it now

>> No.3408892
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3408892

one day i just might draw an entire body

>> No.3408944

>>3401231
make 2018 great again

>> No.3409207
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3409207

>>3388282
not me, but interesting nonetheless

>> No.3409216

>>3409207
thats a bit of a counter argument to that clear silhouette picture
>>>3407658

>> No.3409409

>>3409207
Left has a mroe 90s vibe which I prefer, bu I can see with right that you better understand how form works a bit.

>> No.3409441

>>3399492
honk

>> No.3409467

Why is there so many gross shit in here?
Cocks, cocks, cocks, pedo shit, and more cocks

WHAT THE FUCK?

>> No.3409501

>>3388351
You're the "influence map thread" op aren't you?

>> No.3409504

Why does everyone draw so god damn much porn?

>> No.3409510
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>> No.3409548

>>3409510
holy shit good work fampai

>> No.3409563

>>3389686
>snacks meme in 2018
Jesus Christ grandpa, get the fuck back into your grave

>> No.3409576

>>3388328
>college turned you into a faggot
pottery.

>> No.3409622
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3409622

haven't been drawing a lot lately

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3409641

>>3409467
Where do you think we are?

>> No.3409642

>>3409622
You and everyone else.

>> No.3409816

>>3396444
linework flows a bit better, still no fundamentals after 3 years
>>>/trash/

>> No.3409818

>>3396444
It looks like she grew up

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3409826

>>3389599
>but no. that was a mistake. look at the /beg/ thread. There are no fundamental excercises from loomis at all, and its pretty much identical to /i/
I practice my fundies though
and other people seem to be doing it by drawing the basic body, perspective etc.

>> No.3409851

>>3389589
>hover over each post
>sweat collecting on chin
>none of them are me
whew

>> No.3410052

>>3409576
nah, I was gay as fuck since I can remember, it's just that I realized later that drawing porn was an easy way to get money

>> No.3410167

>>3390004
Dude... the actual vagina does not reach up to the clitoris. Not meant to be rude, but I fucking can't believe how many hentai artists don't know how vaginas work. There's plenty of reference on the internet innit

>> No.3410640

>>3409467
Get a load of this guy! What a prude.

>> No.3410737
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3410737

I feel like I've failed a bit.

>> No.3410814

>>3410737
You didn't friend, you didn't. You still need to amp up your game though.

>> No.3410817

First SFM animation ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p19oSKdsko
Most Recent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJjT9uJxd1U

not sure how good you have to be to charge for making porn

>> No.3410818

>>3410817
Alternatively: https://freebones.tumblr.com/post/173506453052/it-makes-real-cupcakes-with-a-40-watt-bulb-and

something i'm working on currently

>> No.3410821

>>3410737
No you didn't. You have a good base but still lots of room for improvement.
The way I see it painting/drawing/music/working out/etc is an eternal struggle, the excitement before doing; then you hit a wall and the self-doubt setting in, then you overcome it just barely. After that it's back to the beginning again. A bit depressing but remember that you always come out a slightly better person after every struggle.

>> No.3410829

>>3410167
This. there's a great tut over in the tutorial thread that elaborates on this and other common mistakes in vag drawing made by porn artists, it was gratifying to see someone acknowledge that nonsense and I hope it helps some people on here.

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>>3390301
In case you see this, I'm really glad you made this post, the phrase "learned art backwards" struck me so hard that I ended up looking back through a lot of my work in the last 3yrs and seeing improvement in the things you talked about through end of 2016 but a lot of unnecessary diversion throughout 2017. In the last year plus, I'm afraid i haven't really improved in anything except patient tiddy (pic related is from 2016 and even with the unfinished bottom half I can see past me was already at whatever skill with foreshortening and perspective present me has, aka it didn't improve, in fact this thing is probably more ambitious in that regard than my recent work). Will keep form and perspective foremost in mind going forward.

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>>3390301
In case you see this, I'm really glad you made this post, the phrase "learned art backwards" struck me so hard that I ended up looking back through a lot of my work in the last 3yrs and seeing improvement in the things you talked about through end of 2016 but a lot of unnecessary diversion throughout 2017. In the last year plus, I'm afraid i haven't really improved in anything except patient tiddy rendering (pic related is from 2016 and even with the unfinished bottom half I can see past me was already at whatever skill with foreshortening and perspective present me has, aka it didn't improve, in fact this thing is probably more ambitious in that regard than my recent work). Will keep form and perspective foremost in mind going forward.

>> No.3410836

>tfw drawing for more than a year now
>not a single finished piece

Fundies were a mistake

>> No.3410846

>>3397590
got an insta?

>> No.3410847

>>3406220
real nice improvement.

>> No.3410849

>>3409207
>12 years

>> No.3411413

>>3409504
Freud was right.

>> No.3411618

>>3409510
amazing improvement! do you have a blog?

>> No.3411628

>>3388328
I like your art now can I get a sauce

>> No.3411630

>>3390004
is that emma gonzalez bottom 2nd right

>> No.3411635
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3411635

I'm self taught and a shitty teacher, but I enjoy doodling as a hobby. I think I've come a long way but have even further to go!

>> No.3411637
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3411637

>>3411635
this was the right one, whoops

>> No.3411652

>>3411637
That's great anon! Keep it up

>> No.3411656

>>3411637
How long between these pictures?

>> No.3411657

>>3409510
How do I improve like you senpai?

>> No.3411688

>>3389673
Not only was this guy not very good (you cherry picked his best stuff), he was literally drawing realistic looking children. Calling it "loli" is a stretch. We're talking 12 year old western looking sick shit. Boohoo, he got arrested as he probably had real cheese pizza too. One less sicko walking around. Hopefully he learned his lesson.

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3411702

>>3389990
read jojo parts 1-3

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>>3409467

>> No.3411807

>>3411628
BaphometBimbo

>> No.3411810

>>3409467
>d/ic/ks

>> No.3411873
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I have giant regrets, haven't drawn seriously since 2009. Been doodling on and off, never putting any effort into drawings. Just started redrawing and relearning the fundamentals yesterday after about two years of not drawing and honestly having a lot of fun.

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Nervous as hell as this is the first time I've done anything like this but here I am I guess.

>> No.3411878

>>3409467
Pedo shit is when a girl is drawn ecause Pedophilia = Heterosexuality dont you notice how abundant sexual abuse amongst heterosexual relationships get reported on TV everyday? The majority of criminals are cishets.

>> No.3411887

>>3411873
Blog?

>> No.3411956

>>3411878
what about men who like little boys

pretty sure thats fuckin rampant mate

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>>3411688
I mean your right that the stuff isn't the best, and I'm certainly no fan, but I don't know how much I consider it realistic. It seems like a western Akiba Hideki

>> No.3412829

>>3411878
Fags make up a third of pedophiles despite being and infimally small amount of the population, fuck off.

>> No.3412830

>>3412058
Blog?

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>>3411688
>Not only was this guy not very good (you cherry picked his best stuff)
Feel free to post anything you consider terrible looking then, I'll admit some of his realistic stuff is really stiff at times but a lot of it looks good too.
>he was literally drawing realistic looking children. Calling it "loli" is a stretch. We're talking 12 year old western looking sick shit
Ah, so you're just one of those nu-weeb types, good to know.

>> No.3412886

>>3391310
this is awesome and inspiring, thanks for posting anon

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this is 2016 - today

>> No.3413086

>>3412829
False statistic made up by an ideologue using flawed research, he produced that number by assigning 'straight' 'bisexual' and 'gay' to each encounter and combined the bisexual and gay into one 'homosexuality' to make it the biggest number, even though it is impossible for a one on one encounter to be bisexual. Additionally, there is no evidence to suggest that diddling little boys makes you gay. Rape is usually a power or desperation thing, and people that fuck little boys are not necessarily homosexual, so the definition of homosexuality including 'fucked a little boy' is just incorrect, especially considering most male molesters do not report an interest in men over just 'children.'
In other words, go back to /pol/.

>> No.3413222

>>3396918
he probably watched this https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU

>> No.3414237

>>3412980
lol, looks like they were drawn on the same day