/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stan Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

>>3386312
Thought this still needs addressing - don't apply an MMO mentality of "grinding" to art education.
Learning art is an iterative process, not a fucking loop of leveling up after doing the same shit for X hours.

The purpose of studies is to boost your personal work, not the studies themselves. Don't stay on /ic/ drawing the same shit for 2 years, do yourself a favor and pick a project and actually design something.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs/view

Im having a really hard time sticking to books that are often recommended here, such as loomis, and i have trouble with video tutorials because people talk really slow and it drains all the fun out for me.
Is there no hope? How do i work on fixing this ADHD

To improve as a human, you have to admit that you are trash.

I am trash.

>>3387147
>videos
Same here. I speed them up to 1.5x or sometimes 2x. Easy to do with Youtube settings and VLC for downloaded files.

>>3387148
keep going buddy

>>3387147
Read for a while, when you're getting burned out, shift to a different drawing project. I'll mix study with free drawing, once I start to struggle with the book I'll put it away for a bit and just do some fun sketches. Keeps me focused and fresh.

>>3387147
draw what you want then

Hopefully you all go to /loomis/ on 8ch and raise the standard of the "art" posted there. Who am I kidding, it's not like they'd appreciate it.

>>3387104
I know I'm not even close to accurate but any advice?

This is the first time I tried "painting" with opacity on pen pressure, before I only ever made just lines.
I started with a pretty big brush and splotched in a bunch of zones but I think then i shrunk my brush to a smaller one and just started doing details more for whatever reason, is that bad, should I try doing bigger for more time?
This was about 8 minutes.

>>3387291
stop blurring for fuck sake

>>3387319
What?

>>3387148
for a beginner it looks good, you're on your way to improvement keep it up.

>>3387324
Use a hard brush.

>>3387358
but i've been told before in this very thread to not do that
and use opacity and flow with pressure

What's the best tempo for gesture practice? 60 sec?

>>3387365
are you blind anon, ur image is blurry as shit, use a hard edged brush and fuck wat u heard.

>>3387428
Your own tempo.

Last time I was here I was told to practice the proportions of the body, so now I can draw the basics of that.

What do I draw next? Muscles? Skeleton? The outline of the body?

It's a girl by the way, if you couldn't see.

>>3387120
>25 hours a week

I'm not going to make it lads

>>3387489
while you're waiting for real advice, try posing it

>>3387489
Now do it profile view.

>>3387104
Anyone have any good advice for drawing animals? I'm wanting to draw mostly canines at the moment but don't want my pictures turning out like furry deviantart submissions

>>3387291
Find ref like this but better - with bald kot and clear light & shadow. Use big brush with no texture, separate light from shadow, add halftones to the lights and occlusion shadow to the darks, your darkest values in the lights should always be lighter than your brightest values in the shadows, push that separation - don't make your halftone value too dark, soften edges where plane transition from light to dark is smooth.

>>3387489
regular people are 7.5 heads tall. 4 from the top to the bottom of the pubic bone, 4 from the feet up to halfway between the 3rd and 4th lines counting from the top head.

>>3387147
Watch a video in relation to the subject you aim at ( from someone who knows the subject).

For example, I have the hardcover of loomis but i barely open it because the art is just unappealing to me. Then I watched some DokiDoki vids on youtube and saw a veteran animator named Hinoe explain how he constructs figure and he shows some nifty tricks, that I was immediately able to relate to and apply.

I drew as he instructed and it stuck, and then I checked loomis and I saw that he was in fact showing me the loomis 8 head method and I simply "got" it better because I was interested in how he presented it, as a japanese animator.

Its hard to accept ideas and lessons from people you know nothing about and only listen to cause someone else told you to, especially when it conflicts with your own view of things. This is why its important to read/watch a source that:

1). Actually understands what he's talking about and isnt selling you bullshit.
2). Is appealing/pandering to what you are aiming at.

In that order. It is PARAMOUNT you choose your mentors carefully as mediocre artists teaching their bad habits can fuck your studies up real bad.

>>3387489
The sholder line is too low. Stick to the loomis graph for now.

>>3387117
>Learning art is an iterative process, not a fucking loop of leveling up after doing the same shit for X hours.
What is muscle memory.

I don't disagree with you entirely but acting like the fundamentals don't matter is the shit that brought us post modern art.

Started trying to paint yesterday. This is my first attempt and I have no fucking clue where to go or what to study to make my understanding of this more efficient?

>>3387609
Looks cool so that's something

>>3387609
Lemme know when your done so I can save this and post it as my own oc on instagram

>>3387658
lel. I don't know what this post was trying to imply.

>>3387662
Imma stil u artwork kid nothing personell.

>>3387609
Perspective -> Figure Drawing -> Anatomy -> Color/Light/Shadow

Spend some time over the rest of this year studying these things in this order. Skipping the first three and jumping straight to color won't help you much.

>>3387650
Read the first chapter of Michael Hamptons "Figure Drawing - Design and Invention".

>>3387650
That shit aint gesture.

>>3387650
That ain't gesture anon. That's just stick men.

>>3387668
>>3387672
>>3387674
Calm yourselves I just did what porno said.

>still butthurt and stuck on trying to draw my face like the drawing on the right side of brain tells me i should do before i move on to the exercizes
>cant stop wanting to kys myself after each time i look up from a detail and realizing it is completely out of proportion
>have all the time in the world but cant help being perpetually pessimistic
>get angry each time and stop drawing

>>3387609
You're using digital so don't be afraif yo push out the darks and make the highlights pop. Go crazy with the color and then start refining it in your next passes.
Put a greyscale layer over the whole drawing and hide/unhide it to check how good your values are. You want the values to look distinct in the greyscale but not too distinct. You'll know when you've hit that balance.

>>3387690
Do the first exercise (page 70 I think?) and then go back to freaking out over your face for as long as you need. I think it will give you a sense of perspective over what the book expects from you.

Updated. Still looking for any constructive criticism, feedback, comments, or whatever before I continue. I'm gonna start working on her left hand, the dark arms, and the silk in general after I fix her face. I'm not sure if the silk should be a different color to contrast with her skin or not, either.

Thoughts please?

>>3387756
Face looks odd and she's kinda "doughy" looking.

doggy noses i did in about 15 min. am i /beg/ ?

>>3387831
Post figure drawing and we'll tell you.

>>3387838
>>3387831
i have these two, closest to a figure that i have

>>3387817
depends on what you were going for, if it was realism it's balls, if you were trying to create an atmosphere with deliberate unrealism it seems pretty good (though that could still depend on what atmosphere you were going for).

>>3387690
skip that shit and read keys to drawing.

>>3387756
is this traced or from imagination? it seems like your proportions are really off in a lot of places unintentionally. her body doesn't look like it came from one place.

>>3387845
Edge control

is there any hope?

>>3387858
Imagination so I can see how far my gesture and construction studies can take me. I'm still going through anatomy in detail but haven't gotten to every part of the body yet. I'm trying to render the body one section at a time and started with placing the values with blocks. The more I learn from this the better so I can be more efficient next time.

>>3387827
Is it the values? I should have used a reference for it but it feels like parts of her body are too dark and too saturated to look like natural skin. I am definitely going to unfuck those facial proportions.

>>3387875
Sure, it looks like you're plenty capable of correcting the mistakes you made

>>3387881
care to point out some?
also i'm really struggling to make the 2nd finger from the left actually look right in terms of angle

Can't find Stever Huston's figure drawing book anywhere in OP links. anyone has?

>>3387882
not him, but try to use your hand for reference, look at it for a bit and you will notice some things you can fix

>>3387912
i was using my left hand for the rough sketching

i have pretty shit lighting where i draw so it's hard to get any further than that though

>>3387756
Made a few edits to your drawing, I could keep fixing but it would be faster to redraw lol. In terms of anatomy youre on the right track, but use your hard lines sparingly, theyre meant to indicate steep surface angles or distance between objects, not for outlining abs. Also, with a traditional two lightsource image, the hard shadow will often appear in the middle of a spere as a ring around it (youll notice it in the edits to the bewbs). Your feet drawing is on the right track.
But your biggest apparent weakness is facial proportions. You were a bit too generous with her nose. Keep some distance to the mouth.

If I were you I would practice perspective as the first thing. So many of the mistakes couldve been avoided: it doesnt really make sense that her legs are below her buttocks, so you made her sit on the edge of a waterfall. Her shoulder would not be visible from that angle, and her far hip shouldve been hidden more away.

>>3387148
Really not too bad in all honesty famalam, have more of a sense of 3D space than 99% of /beg/

I've been reading loomis and it feels helpful. I'm laying down the basic lines before continuing. Any advice or tips before I go on? I'm making the back two figures eight heads tall each, no framework for weight distribution yet, not sure if I'll have Kaz forward or Ocelot forward.

>>3387920

Not that anon.


There's more character to the face on the original. Why change it? You can fix it and still keep the facial expression.

Don't be so anal about technicality that you forget about aesthetic.

>>3387845

draw hair like it's made of ribbons. then add little details to imply fine hair within those ribbons.

shape and placement, form, details.

>>3387672
>>3387674

baka /beg/s

Go fucking learn what gesture is before telling someone what it is not.

>>3387650

Some are on point others don't even look human but it is gesture. It can be a stick figure or 2 freaking lines. Gesture is about the essence of action. You're doing great anon. I do recommend Michael Hampton video on gesture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4353W2Xqm0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiqgXqjWCw

The first 2 videos are free on youtube. The second link is about gesture but I highly recommend watching through the first link.

>>3387978
K, lets keep the big nose. Still don’t think the original was particularly appealing.

>>3387104
What the fuck! I tried the exercise where you draw this picture upside down, following along in "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" and the artists said I should be pleased with my results! What is this shit, where did I go wrong!!!

>>3387993

you're fucking with me right? I'm talking about facial expression not features. Did I hurt your ego somehow by pointing out that your repaint looks boring.

>>3387993
>>3388007
you're both painting over poo

>>3387875
lower brightness, up contrast because it's hard to see
too much spacing between fingers, pinky is way too thin
imagine the spacing between the fingers as shapes and you should start off by referring to pictures of hands

>>3388013

are you lost child?

How do I into non-scraggly lines? Feels like I have Parkinson's.

>>3388045
that's what layers or selections are for

>>3387997
you should rotate and resize before you post
redo the exercise with just the face and focus extra hard on making sure the negative space is correct, drawing guiding lines between important points and checking their angle/length
when you're comfortable, repeat the entire exercise, but start off on a bigger sheet of paper (you can tape two together)

>>3388045
zoom in and retrace

>>3387817
symbol drawing with the talons
messes up any effect you were going for, although i love the texture on the feathers

Do I make the back figure relative to Big Boss' height or relative to Ocelot's height?

Do I use the blue or the red for the height of the back figure?

are these ok (from imagination)?

Whose book should I read to study figure drawing. Hampton or Loomis?

>>3388195
Both, and pick the one you like

>>3387845
I'd move to draw thread. You'll only get pulled down in here.

>>3388202
Can you just give me a suggestion please

>>3388142
Next time just use a reference.

>>3388207
I went through both, I learned from Hampton on visualizing heads in terms of forms and I learned proportions from Loomis

probably one of the longest ive spent on a piece before, with sketching first now going over again with thicker line in one stroke. Drawing without any kind of reference/imagination, hair and colour isn't done yet.

am aware im terrible which is why im posting here, how are my basics looking like in this picture.

>>3387920
Thank you for the feedback.
I was getting rid of the darker contour lines as I worked on each part of the body but kept them if I need an outline for the form. I'm happy you went over the breasts and the shoulder area. It was bothering me a lot and made me realize I should throw another layer on top of it to get a better outline of her torso, since the angle of the neck was off. I like your lighting more than mine, but I wanted it to be intense to illustrate contrasting, I suppose I can change the colors to accomplish that instead while ai study up on values and light source a bit more.
I think you're absolutely right about the perspective, it was my biggest issue with construction of entire bodies and it annoys me Everytime I study with Hampton. I'll add a horizon line and do my best to adhere to that to make sure the figure doesn't suffer any more than it already is.

>>3387978
Truth be told, I didn't put enough attention to the face as much as anything else in the illustration. Any semblance of beauty was definitely a fluke, to be completely honest. That's why I'm so adamant on fixing it since it's one of the focal points here.

I really appreciate both your inputs, I'm gonna work on all these addressed nuances once I'm off work and I'll practice my gestures and perspective while I'm here in my sketchbook.

>>3388207
I agree with >>3388209.
I went through Loomis' first and learned how the importance of proportions, but his book is vauge as fuck for the most part. Hampton will help you with setting up the figures, balancing them, and setting you up to recognize landmarks to make it easier to make sure everything fits like a glove.

>>3388221
>am aware its terrible
then why post it here
You symbol draw way too much, you haven't read the sticky, now piss off and do keys or loomis or some shit.

Pancake face ass lookin nigga jesus. Did you trace the torso and fuddle the rest?

>>3388230
to let people like you know its a waste of time replying with random nonconstructive flame! Its the beginner thread fuck off

>>3387494
You'll make it. Believe in yourself!

>>3388232
are people who shit throw and tell people to read the sticky the worst kind of autists, its exactly the same on /fit/ when someone asks a reasonable but new question. How insecure must you be to go to fat threads or beginner artist threads and tell people they suck

>>3388235
Because it's possible to tell how much effort went into a drawing. Whoever posted that garbage >>3388221 doesn't deserve a fucking reply because he put in ZERO effort.

>b-but maybe he did put in effort
Then he's beyond garbage and isn't worth responding to

>>3388232
>>3388235
>insecure
No, I expect you to have a fucking brain, and the decency to READ THE FIRST POST ON THE BOARD.

You come here and demand someone else's time and constructive criticism, then get upset when someone calls you out on your shit. You want to be spoon fed. No one here will do it.

Now fuck off to tumblr or plebbit, some gay shit website that will tell you you're good because you won't get it here. There isn't anything to criticize because you have no fundamentals. No definition. You're symbol drawing, the drawing is literally a childs work. You can't critique a kindergarteners work.

>inb4 so mad xDDD
>its the beginner thread fuck off
Whoops, sorry for not giving you my time and knowledge for free and telling you how to become a better artist. Sorry for not putting you on a pedestal. Here's my final bit of advice:

Fuck off. The solution is in the sticky. If you aren't willing to learn why are you here?

>>3388240
its pretty basic and looks like an extension of a tutorial piece like this, only beyond garbage is your attitude :^) , post your stuff

>its a bitter autists posing as artists slapfight episode
remember if you arn't drawing the same sphere 10 times you arn't allowed to post here

>>3388242
I don't need to post shit because I'm not asking retarded questions.

>>3388246
you don't need to post shit is about right, if you don't feel a post is worth replying to no one is forcing you to! No one gives a shit about your opinion when all you are posting is flame.

>>3387690
>>3387856
do them both, but also don't expect to be able to draw your face well on the first fucking exercise

>>3388207
scott eaton while you hampton and keep doing both. hampton skips out a lot of stuff for basic structures while knowing how the muscles insert underneath will make your drawings better. do the ecorches every week

>>3388221
basics are bad, as others have said. symbol drawing obvs. Focus on drawing things as they are. Keep using references and draw what you see. Don't feel like you're cheating, because that's literally how you learn to draw realistic proportions. Draw reality. Keep trying, don't ever give up, and you'll make it eventually. It's not terrible, you have potential.

>>3387918
>shit lighting
huge excuse, do you live in a cave? wtf

>>3388263
not op but how do you not "symbol draw" if you are not drawing from reality or a reference photo if you are doing anime etc, it becomes just tracing of someone elses work at a certain point if you AREN'T symbol drawing

How do I fix this?

>>3388269
>How do you not "symbol draw" if you are not drawing from reality or a reference photo
Understanding the basic shapes of the body and it's various parts allows you to have an idea of how it should look in 3 dimensions. By realizing an eye is composed of a sphere with a slit opening on one end allows you to understand the volume of the body part and illustrate this properly in various orientations.

>it becomes just tracing of someone elses work at a certain point if you AREN'T symbol drawing
Referencing a collection of images doesn't equate to tracing. It's more of a guideline that you follow to get an idea of how the things SHOULD look as opposed to what you think it should look like, which is possibly biased.

>>3388271
Play with your tablet's sensitivity levels or check the grip you have with your pen. Adjust it as necessary. It seems like the issue is the varying levels of size which is being caused by erratic pressure.

how bad is it /beg/?

>>3388269
>it becomes just tracing of someone elses work at a certain point if you AREN'T symbol drawing
when you draw from reality, you're just tracing God's work. You can never truly be original no matter what you do, because everything that could ever be conceived was already made possible by God. I hope this helps.

>>3388283
oops! wrong image

>>3388283
Pretty good attempt at an anime girl, their eyes are pretty far apart like that, but they're usually a lot bigger than that. And their noses are usually a lot smaller! But keep trying, you'll make it some day!

Rate my drawing

>>3388283
get out of /beg/

Wow, this was really hard. Time to go backwards for the next few weeks.

>>3388288
I like the cute subject matter but I think it'll be a lot better once you have a better grip on construction and perspective. I can forgive the anatomy and proportions if you're going for a cartoony look.

Learning painting in photoshop and came up with this. Am I going to make it bruvs?

>>3388221
You are making a lot of beginner mistakes which leads me to believe you are not reading the beginner books recommended. By skipping these books you are only wasting your own time getting nowhere. Please read them.

>>3387494
nigga i do that in 2-3 days, get those numbers up

>>3388305
that face is odd.
the ass jolts out.
the gun is made out of bendy straws.
other than that pretty good.

>>3388283
You didn't even read loomis did you?

I'm so tired of being shit at this, everything is so fucked up i almost feel pain.
send help
(excuse the shitty camera, its all I've got)

>>3388380
Reference

>>3388380
You have to come to terms with yourself that your work will look like shit for a long time. Go to the progress threads and make sure you draw for fun in between your studies

>>3388383
I'm aware of that, I just dont know how long will i have to work to get to the point my work doesnt look like literal trash

>>3388389
That's why I said to go check out progress threads to get an idea. Although I found no threads active or in the archives so I'd say look for progress in deviantart or something.

>>3388380
>>3388389
Don't worry about that. As long as you consistently attempt to improve you'll see the gains, just stay with it. Have you studied up gesture and construction?

been practicing faces. is there any tips for that. eyes really fuck me up.(realistic)

doddle for fun. bad still but i did have fun with this

>>3388395
I guess I'll check some of those in the archives, thanks for the suggestion
>>3388403
I'll be the first one to admit construction is my weakest point, in general terms I've read a bit of steve houston and loomis for construction and vilppu for gestures, glen keane and yoh yoshinari for gestures

>>3388395
I guess I'll check some of those in the archives, thanks for the suggestion
>>3388403
I'll be the first one to admit construction is my weakest point, in general terms I've read a bit of steve houston and loomis for construction and vilppu, glen keane and yoh yoshinari for gestures

>>3388410
It looks better if you digitally adjust the brightness and contrast
Way too early for you to be drawing bodies without a reference
If you're studying the face, common sense says you should draw portraits instead of figures (where the head is super small and you'll have trouble fitting in detail)

Here's some random shit I found from the sticky, good luck because I've never looked at it
https://idrawgirls.com/draw-anime-manga.html

how do I make a model hold something in clip studio paint? Every time I import an object (in my case, a gun) it just fazes through the model's hand and I don't know how to get it to stop

>>3387970
Work on your lines a bit. Learn to create straight lines and start properly with 3d forms. It takes a while but if you practice for a couple of hours a day, youll se sigbificant improvement in a week or so.

>>3388345
Made some adjustments to those areas, thanks. Decided to seal the deal with ink and move on.

>>3388518
So I guess 3D model users don't hang around in /beg/ huh

>>3388541
>>>/3/

>>3388543
didn't even know this was a thing, ty anon

>>3388541
you might have better luck in >>>/3/ i dunno

>>3387918
nah i just don't get any visible shadows the way i have my lamps set up right now, i just started drawing like 2 weeks ago so I'm not commited enough to rearrange my room

coming off a long hiatus from any visual art, so i'm rusty, but i was never really good in the first place. no reference here, just working off of what i remember from anatomy construction & shit. anyways, just looking for critique/advice. thx.

>>3387120
Why is composing before human anatomy

>>3388602
i think it says to do all the groups simultaneously

>>3388587
Not bad, but this is not how vagina works.

>>3388614
how do I get Doxy's linework?

>>3388221
Before I critique. Let me ask you. Do you know what's wrong with your drawing? There's no use for critique if you yourself don't know what's wrong with your drawing.

>>3387875
It depends. Is this gonna be the only hand drawing you're gonna do for this year? Theres hope for you if you do at least 365 hand drawings by this year. Any less and you'll NGMI

>>3388617
You also mesmerized by those fingers pushing into vagina?

>>3388615
first portrait?

>>3388652
Yes. I don't practice drawing. Just had a pencil in my hand and remembered my classmate. lol

>>3388625
>you will never gonna make it
i did like 5 in the past 2 days but i'm not gonna post them since they're shit

>>3388662
We all been there bro, keep drawing and you'll get better

>>3387970
You are still symbol drawing.

>>3388691
Not that guy, but how can you tell?

>>3388677
You should try drawing five hands in two hours, then another five in another two hours if you have the time, and then do it again the next day.

>>3388539
Good job anon.

wow a lot of shitposting in response to my picture

>>3388338
>>3388620
I'll start off by saying I was never trying to do a life like drawing some people seem to think, but a cartoon/anime thing and none of it was traced. And yes this is a simple piece im not going to spend ages doing details when I haven't got structure down properly. Neck and legs are particularly bad I think,eyes are probably too small/slightly wrong angle, no shading is done yet so it is hard to show any perspective.

>>3388602
Dodson, Huston, and Bargue already have you drawing figures so you'll be a good position to make immediate use of what Framed Ink teaches (assuming you follow the advice of revisiting past material and regularly drawing things you like). Plus, people would likely want to spend more time on the anatomy section to really remember everything so knowing composition first also keeps things fun.

>>3388607
No, do the books in each group simultaneously. So, Dodson and Huston at the same time then Robertson and Han etc.

tips on drawing hair?

Trying to come back to drawing, i kinda want to do only portrait recently. I apologize for the lowish quality of the picture

>>3388775
well you can tell who it is, so +1 there, the hair is good so +1 again, the mark making is bad -1. the features are all over the place -1, general impression -3, so you get -3, you can move to the draw thread at +5 so hopefully that shows you where you are.

anon who draws black and white guts here, if anyone remembers me. Did a sketch of big boss.

>>3388780
here's a shittier attempt I did earlier today.

>>3388614
Holy shit thank you for this, been wanting to do a lot of Silent Hill inspired horror things lately and this helps a lot.

>>3388782
here's a shitty casca i did yesterday.

>>3388788
And here's the first image I ever posted to a /beg/ thread. I can't help but feel like I've gotten worse. I know it's because I'm taking different approaches though.

Went through some chapters of Loomis. If you find mistakes, pls tell.

>>3388790
He is looks like shingeki no kyojin with all these muscles.

am i doing this right

>>3388850
looks obese but yes

>>3388858
You fucked up.

>>3388826
Tell me what did you learn? How to make faces from circles and lines? If so you should go back and read the excercise again. So you really understand what you are doing. The only way to learn is from doing it yourself

>>3388858
where

>>3388867
was meant to >>3388860

been using an Ipad pro for a year now and turns out getting an anti-glare screen protector fixed the horrible glass texture the ipad had.

>tfw when only figuring this out after a year of using ipad.
:(

>>3388780
Just did this.

>>3388863
I did only a couple of them myself, indeed. But what I gained was in fact that now I better feel them in 3d while I draw. I will keep doing it, from this point on my own. The hard part for me is KNOWING where and which shapes on the face to put (the author already knows the face anatomy and he clearly uses his knowledge to simplify it to the point of circles and boxes. I do not know that so I didn't really copy all that stuff but I was peeking at them as a reference to know where to put which shapes.)

>>3388778
>mark making
I am an idiot, please elaborate

>>3388915
Holy shit this is comedy gold
what fucking references are you using
Its the
>I have to shit and rape you at the same time
look

Just tried out myself in character posing, whaddya think? Any significant flaws?

>>3388915
Dude you desperately need to slow down and work on construction/observation.

>>3388850
The body feels under-rendered and it looks like you got impatient and started scribbling but I like it.

>>3389127
yeah i stopped at some point, i was playing around with the concept of forms i guess

>>3387120
I don't get it, should I be going for what this pic suggests or for the sticky?

getting back into it after months

>>3389116
pretty sure thats the joker without make-up.

>>3388915
I'm pedicting you as the next /beg/ banner

>>3389116
>>3389121
>>3389184

Oh god. I didn't realize this looked so bad. I just kinda did it, while half awake, thought it looked ok and posted. AAAAAAAA I WANT TO MAKE IT WHAT THE FUCK

>retard posts his garbage art in /beg/
>gets genuinely good advice/critique
>FUCK YOU THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MY ART
Literally why are you here.

>>3389116
>I have to shit and rape you at the same time

i need somes critiques on this

>>3389197
Do you enjoy rendering the most? Because that seems to be where you're most polished. Seems like you're rushing through basic construction to get to that stage.

>>3389219
Uncanny as hell. but you're on the path anon.

>>3387104
can someone please redline these hands for me I have no idea what I'm doing

>>3389236
Read more Loomis. And next time take your cartoon shit back to /alt/, beg is for realism

Go ahead tear me a new one lads.
Also i'd appreciate if someone can correct the collar and the bandaids that are wrapped around the head because frankly i have no idea how to.

Trying to improve contrast
Organizing lights and shadows but I’m beg :’v

>>3389258
Y the way can someone tell me if I’m in the fifth track?

>>3389259
Correction
“By the way, can someone tell me if I’m on the right track?”

Keyboard issues.

>>3389256
finish it first idiot.

>>3389255
It's not even a half done sketch, What do you expect us to say? And it's a generic animu head.

>>3389258
Fuck off, you aren't /beg/. Stop fishing for attention.

>>3389258
Thats not /beg/ tier, go to draw thread

y cant I draw cute girls?

>>3389277

jaw is way too heavy and rounded, but overall that looks pretty cute.

>>3389277
did you copy this from sinix or some other youtuber?I think I've seen this character

>>3389284
https://sinix.deviantart.com/art/71-639603484

>>3389219
maybe it's because she has a weird right eye and a beard
my redline might be hot garbage too, but i think the flatness of the face it what makes it so uncanny

Am I doing it right for now?

>>3388826
You have some great clean sketches there anon. Time to move forward. Challenge yourself, but make sure you understand HOW you do what you do, and make sure it was INTENTIONAL, as in if something looks good by accident you need to stop and re-evaluate.

>>3389222
The rendering is off too, it looks like he did a gradient and applied darks where he thought they should go as opposed to a light source.

Remember shading isnt light to dark or vice versa. When light reflects on an object there are different out of order values on said object.

>>3389298
anatomy is pointless without proper proportions which you lack sorely

>>3389318
what´s the difference between anatomy and proportions

>>3389331
>anatomy
the branch of science concerned with the bodily structure of humans
i.e "anon, drawing anatomical body parts or separating your subject anatomically is pointless without proper proportion".
>proportion
a part, share, or number considered in comparative relation to a whole.
i.e "anon, your left leg is proportionally incorrect. Compare it to the right leg, the total length of the femur is too short!".

>>3389331
i think
anatomy tells you the shape of the thigh
proportion tells you the size of the thigh

mindless shit...

Taking a class in life drawing.

No referenced used for this one, tho I feel my faces always turn out strange.

Would love feedback.

>>3389345
your faces turn out strange because they're anatomically incorrect and demented, I'll get back to that, busy rn

>>3389342
Kangaroo?

>>3389342
use a hard brush

>>3389342
You might get some good ideas from "Man After Man: An Anthropology of the Future"

The legs seem off to me.

>>3389372
The thigh on the extended leg is way too long

Doing a BB, Ocelot, Kaz shot, how is my construction? This is all rough, the final will be on a finer brush and the shading brush I'm not sure yet.

>>3389345
resize that shit to 1000 on the longest side next time unless you really need it. there's so much wrong that i can barely be bothered to draw on it or explain it. your pose is flawed, both his arms are reaching back behind his torso as if they're going to be pinned to a cross judging on the angle of the torso. work on head construction, you can't even draw the features perpendicular to the axes of the head. i see construction lines but you appear to have completely ignored them. draw from reference for several attempts before you try drawing from imagination then compare and act out the pose yourself.

Hi

>>3388892
From the thumbnail I thought you were posting some WIP from Unity3D. Looks neat

>>3389116
>Its the
>>I have to shit and rape you at the same time
>look
fucking KEK

>>3389268
It's finished when I say it's finished.

Drew some shitty skulls, mfw

Drew some shitty skulls mfw

>>3389372
get on a bed and make that pose
if you can even manage to get your right shin that far back, you'll be doing a kind of back half-bridge, whereas the girl seems to have her back flat
her right bicep is also a different thickness from her left
my advice is to get some 3dpd insta roastie pic as a reference for these horny times, it will turn out decent enough for you to fap to

Hey so a complete novice to every thing drawing. I’m trying to find somewhere people take requests for a drawing (gonna be for a tattoo for my friend that died) any suggestions?

>>3389446
you get what you pay for

>>3389439
Pepe no

>>3389459
the boots aren't horrible

>>3389422
trace over a photograph of a person's face and then copy what you traced

can someone critique these? I know the shapes are a bit wonky, but I'm mostly just trying to focus on values and edges

>>3389480

>shapes are a bit wonky

Why not just use the ellipse tool?

>>3389480
first egg:
shadow is shifted up too much
goes from black to white too abruptly at the top, makes the egg seem like it's balding

second egg:
no excuse for the center shadow boundary being a straight line. look, it's curved
fix the top of the egg, it's completely different from the reference

First time trying that Peter Han tutorial.
It's fucked, isn't it?
He says 6 pages is the bare minimum, but am I supposed to push out as many as I can per week or per day? This thing took me around one and a half hours.

>>3389409
fix inner right arm, even if it means drawing over the boobie
your drawing's nice to look at tho, i like it

>>3389502
They should take less and less time as you do them.

>>3389499
Thank you!

>>3389502
>people actually grind out 1000s of circles and boxes a day even though the person telling them to never did that themselves

>>3389502
>grinding out circles, lines and other basic shapes

why..? I don't think any technique requires this. I'm an employed line-artist/illustrator and I have not, nor would I ever waste my time doing this. What's the supposed benefit of this?

>>3389596
>>3389602
Post your work or get out.

>post work
>never get any replies
am I just that bad

>>3389616
Which one is yours? Maybe people are just too intimidated by your technical skill :))))))

>>3389616
I get the same treatment too, I only post to post because it helps me develop a habit of working.

If I get replies then it's a bonus.

>>3389616
>Post work + "Can someone help me/criticize me" or a lengthy post describing what I did and what I think I did wrong
>No replies

>>3389621
not what I think I did wrong just my plans for how I intend to go forward.
I changed the pose for Ocelot a bit, make it so he pushes up the belt instead. This is mine.
>>3389382
>>3389619
Above, and I'm just using Figure Drawing for all its worth, great resource
>>3389620
thanks anon good idea

>>3389623
Also, posting my work helps me see it in a relatively new light for whatever reason. Probably something with the transition of analog to digital. Either way it helps me find and fix mistakes

>>3388620
Are you retarded mate? The only thing that is ever said in these "critiques" is what is wrong with the picture, if you already know what's wrong with it how would that help? Not to say you shouldn't know what's wrong with it, you should, it just really speaks to the fact that asking here from critique is actually pointless.

>>3389382
>>3389623

Start off with the eyes being one eye-length apart (then make slight adjustments from there depending on the character)

>>3389631
Thanks anon really appreciate it

>>3389641
Np, the key is to just make a post about how no one is commenting on your original post :P

I hesitate to say this since you only asked for construction advice, but you seem to take criticism well. Your line work is very unappealing. Be more disciplined with how you place the lines.

Think more about line weight and try not to wobble all over the place. You should also indicate hair with fewer lines. Placing each individual strand with a separate line is just very unappealing.

Good luck!

>>3389476
t-thanks...

>>3389653
Well I thought that it might be my primary concern but I'll take any criticism, thanks for the help again.

I'll definitely be more confident in laying long, complete lines instead of chicken scratch. I was told for hair to consider it as sections of ribbons instead. Again thanks.

>>3387104
Been grinding fundies and watching anatomy drawing youtubes and decided to try and draw a full head. Trying to get all the shapes of the face & head represented with line work but I'm still a nob whose learning. Also since I'm using pen and no pencil for practice I had a few mistakes (almost fucked up the head proportions completely).

Drawing is hard but it's getting easier.

Been grinding fundies and watching anatomy drawing youtubes and decided to try and draw a full head. Trying to get all the shapes of the face & head represented with line work but I'm still a nob whose learning. Also since I'm using pen and no pencil for practice I had a few mistakes (almost fucked up the head proportions completely).

Drawing is hard but it's getting easier.

>>3389726
nice anon, what have you been using to learn to draw like that.

Are there any good sources for people in action poses, like for superheroes and heroines? I've tried googling, but I was hoping somebody knew a book or other repository

>>3389726
I can't tell the direction of the head.
It looks like we're able to see the top of his head meaning he's tilting his head forward, but the ear align to the nose suggesting we're looking straight at him?

>>3387517

Another anon - did this ref. ~100 mins

>>3389831
Push your values, and don't forget the background has a value as well.

>>3389835
Oh, strange. I adjusted the exposure in this one to look more accurate to how I see it in person, though now the highlights should be brighter.

I pushed as hard as I could with an 8B pencil on the darkest parts (eye, between legs, ground shadow) and I'm not sure how I'd get it darker unless I use charcoal.

>>3389480
use clipping masks and try to lessen the muddiness of your painting by blending the values using a soft brush. Try to make your painting study as clean as possible. I used to do this kind of rendering when I was still starting out in digital art. You're going to improve anon, just keep practicing and studying.

>>3389846
i think it's the midtones rather than the darks

>>3389439
fuck you anon, that pepe frog made me laugh at work kek haha.

>>3389856

Ah, i see now. Tyvm! I may or may not fix it tomorrow morning.

>>3389846

What does good form look like /beg/?

>>3389861
better would be to use toned paper and white + black charcoal, the reference screams for it, as shown here in this artist's interpretation

It took me an hour of work

I JUST WANT TO DRAW ANIME REEEEEEEE

>>3387104

Is there any resources / tutorials out there on the maximum angles that different sections of the spine can move in?

>>3390019
Twist your torso in front of a mirror, helps if you're not wearing any clothes.

>>3390003

>>3389250
no it's not stop being mean

I'm just trying to get a feel for how people here critique hings.

Pretend I was the artist of a piece like this, how would you judge it.

>>3390057
proportions are complete shit, so little likeness to katarina that if it wasnt in the file name i would have never known, pillowshading, awkward pose and kys post your own work nigger

>>3390057
You have poor taste. Look at better art.

>>3390057
As you can see, sinbbety snabs crabs everywhere. Dont bother, people come here to vent not help.

>>3390057
Her legs look like stumps and are way to long hips are too wide and start to early. I do like the face though the expression is great. Post your own work anon.

>>3390057
Prime example of how not resorting to copy/paste (swords here) could make a picture better. I agree with most of the points said so far but of course if someone seriously posted this here, they would be directed right out of /beg/.
>>3390067
>he thinks the image is perfect and doesn't have clear ways to improve it

crawling

in my

skin

these wounds

they will not

>>3390103
jesus christ anon, resize your images

heal

>>3390104
no

you're

a

fuck ing

fuck

>>3390112
I dig your style anon, who's your influence?

you little

i dont know what you mean by "influence"

these are just doodles

another

>>3390121
what's your goal? perspectiveless and wonky abstract environments?

one

no goal, see i never just did some things just to do them, yeah no goal

and i bet your shits all wonky and abstract like a bitch

bet.

aint that a shame

you're the one to blame

my ahit grows like a fungus mould all over your bitch ass

>>3390121
I meant what artist inspired you to draw like that, I love how weird your stuff looks.

and you probably talk behind peoples backs all the time

its just doodles, passing the time

>>3390168
You just spammed the thread with 20+ self-admitted directionless doodles, didn't even bother to resize them like everyone else does, why did you post again? Get a blog if you just want to show your art. Don't get me wrong I like some of the things you did, but why post on here if you aren't even looking for advice?

How did I go?

>>3390168

Yeah, I like these a lot.

>>3390189
It's improvement, keep going.

>>3390206
I think he's going backwards actually

>>3390206
>>3390209
Who said Anime shit was an improvement?

>>3390072
>her legs look like stumps

her legs are one and a half times the size of her torso

>>3390225
You're right, meant her feet are stumps.

>>3390189
Lacks depth.

>>3389744
Mostly been doing moderndayjames tutorials. Perspective I, II, and II, Becoming a Gi, and Visual Library series. Mostly I just need to keep drawing.

>>3389308
thanks anon

>>3389422
Eyes are at the midpoint of the face

>>3389428
tnx dawg :)

>>3389502
>draws 10,000 circles
>will act surprised when he still can't draw at the end of it

Your input is appreciated.

when is the next thread gonne be posted, feels like a waste posting in a already dead thread.

>>3390494
what did u change?

Im new here. how to improve my komamura?

>>3390529
Just make one senpai

tried /3/ and got no help at all. Can someone please redline this for me or post a tutorial or something? I have no fucking idea how to draw guns let alone at more dynamic angles. Trying to do the box method but it's so frustrating because I have no clue how the gun is supposed to look so even if I got it right somehow I'd never know.

>>3388915
Trying to redeem myself for posting that shit before... I did rush it as other anons have said. This is also a bit rushed but not as much. I might finish it tomorrow.

>>3390642
I don't know about any box method, but the top of the gun has two main parts to it, and you only have one. Forgive me for not knowing the correct terms, but the slide is at the top and the secondary bit (I think) is connected directly to the handle. It's important though because it's to do with the gas exiting that cycles the next round by the slide going back.
You'll also have to forgive my shoddy diagram because I'm using ms paint. I'm also no gun expert, I'm a bong. Guns here are the only thing more terrifying to the general population than someone white holding a British flag.
Also I realise I haven't differentiated between the muzzle and slide or barrel and slide or whatever, so no one has to point that out for my benefit.

>>3390642
Get a 3d model file for a gun, rotate it to multiple angles and orientation and practice drawing it that way, even if you have to trace it the first couple of times, you'll get the hang of it in time. The goal is being able to imagine the exact shape in your mind.
It's the not the most practical way to learn but in your situation I think it's a good place to start.

>>3390674
>Get a 3d model file for a gun

Not that poster, but where do you find those files and what do you open them in, just like blender or something? I've been meaning to ask about them for ages and always forget.

>>3390676
you can get weapon files from here https://free3d.com/3d-models/weapons
and you can open them with any 3D program, like 3dsMax and Blender, hell, you could even open them in Photoshop and Manga Studio

>>3390689
Thanks a lot my dude, I trust I'll have a lot of fun with this.

Still super early with this piece, but should I push values ever further? Any general problems that really stand out to you? Thanks in advance.

>>3390981
>>3390981