/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

just draw

I still don't know if Loomis is a meme or if telling people he's a meme is a meme....

draw just

>>3376563
/ic/ reached critical mass in 2018.
this board is not /ic/ anymore
just post any trash you want

Stop depending on others.

>>3376563
>all the contradictory advice
>all the vague criticisms with no in depth explanation
all that ive said was the truth. not my fault you faggots cant handle it

>>3376563
Yeah and you should be. It's great because there's no bias. You get to hear the cold hard truth.

>>3376588
are you a pro? post your work. and dont give me no pussy ass meme or joke replies either. post your work.

>>3376563
Your IQ is probably too low to understand it.

>>3376593
im not a shitter memer, but im still not posting shit lol.

>>3376594
haha i too watch rick and morty

>>3376563
Want some real advice? First thing make sure that your knowledge of perspective is very strong.(perspective made easy) Know how to construct simple 3d objects in perspective and how to rotate them and cast their shadows. You can learn that in Scott robertsons how to render. That's the easy part.

Now pick a subject that you can find alot of references for. animals people buildings cars planes. Draw them alot and learn why they are the way they are along the way. Form studies mean drawing the simplest/most essential version of the thing and then paying attention to where and how you can deform or customize it. In the case for people/animals you will want to study anatomy alongside your form studies. Ecorche is the way to go. I recommend michael hampyons design and invention. After that you just start from tje beginning because you DEFINITELY missed something and thats why your drawings might still suck after this point. Rinse and repeat.

>>3376597
>too afraid to post his work
sorry bud, we're gonna have to assume you're a /beg/ unless we see something. therefore we can't really take what you say with much credit.

>>3376563
>tfw ic gives mostly shit advice but it still made you better than every art teacher you know
>now nobody can give you any guidance whatsoever
>forced to comb through internet tutorials elsewhere that are equally vague and contradictory
I need to go to an art school

>>3376611
Fundamentals aren't a meme. They're not vague or contradictory. Get gud.

>>3376599
op here. THIS is the advice /ic/ needs more of. not a simple one sentence reply filled with profanity and buzzowrds

>>3376617
Then you're an idiot OP or new. There's nothing revolutionary about learning perspective and anatomy. It's just people who complain don't put in the work.

>>3376601
right back at ya pal

>>3376621
but that whole reply was infinitely better than the million "LOOMIS" posts we get.

don't draw

>>3376626
draw dont

>>3376625
Have you actually read Loomis?

General rule of thumb, only take advice from people who post their work or do redlines.

I'm still a shitter but I'm happy with how I'm coming along and the thing that has helped my mindset the most is collecting artbooks and pictures from my favorite artists as inspiration, flipping throuhg a book of Heinrich Kley or Yoh Yoshinari's work is inspiring. As for practical steps, look at the artists you admire, figure out what it is they do that you want to do, and then draw those things from life, I personally like to finish every life drawing session with somthing from imagination while the reference is still fresh in my mind.

>>3376563
Just realize that /ic/ is not DeviantArt or Instagram, people here have anonymity, so if you act like a dumb cunt and ignore the sticky, they'll feel free to call you out on it. Also, for the love of god, don't listen to every single thing random strangers say, find your own way and settle on whatever suits you best... On the other hand, if someone HAS to shit on your art, thank the heavens it's loser permavirgins on the internet and not a potential employer. Now go draw.

>>3376629
you're move bucko

>>3376613
I never said anything about fundamentals nor did I call them a meme, what a knee-jerk reaction.
Fundamentals are just something you apply when making art; If you don't know the proper process for applying them, (and the process varies for every program floating around) you still aren't going to have good art. The good artists only release speedpaints that show process; have fun trying to learn HOW to use a program from sped-up footage without any commentary, or vaguely annotated step-by-step shit. Even in traditional media; I learned a depth of colour theory before I even knew the concept of a watercolour wash, and can barely paint in traditional or digital. And god forbid you learn to paint in anything that isn't photoshop; you'll have to listen to social-anxiety art thots poorly explain what their teacher explained to them, to you.
The best artists worked directly under masters, and what a great fucking idea that was.

>>3376563
Just download watts course on cgpeers

>>3376565
This is it. Just draw OP. Every artist who is good got there with a different journey than another. Keep drawing.

>>3376597
>im still not posting shit lol.

Because you know your work would get ripped apart just as much as you rip apart other people's work.

>>3376563
Contradictory advice because art is subjective. Find a skilled mentor and follow their tutelage.

>>3376563
>moderndayjames
that dipshit faggot isn't a pro, he didn't work in the industry for years, compare that to Feng Zhu. MDJ is a fucking idiot, egotistic, shitty wannabe artist/teacher. FZ has the skills necessary to back up all of his teaching compared to MDJ.

>4chan /ic/
this board is worst than fucking trash

>>3376723
nah. not the reason, but keep trying.

>>3376894
trash unironically has better advice, critique and tutorials than /ic/

theres no saving this board

>>3376563
Get all the useful resources you can get from this place & leave all these crabs behind, man... This is the best thing to do, otherwise you're wasting time among those "lol start drawing lewd To make money" , "NGMI", etc...

>>3376563
Anon, let me tell you a secret. As a learning artist this board is shit will only hinder you. I'll give you this Neil Gaiman quote to help illustrate my point.

All those people who give wrong art advice, most of the worst of them have mental illnesses and gather on /ic/.

>>3376894
this is probably the best community for learning art other than have connections with pros anon. Find someplace better

I spent almost an entire year just figuring out what to study, constantly jumping from a book or video lesson to another, in the end I managed to sort things out, I started noticing some patterns and understood what I'm really interested in.

While /ic/ is a shithole constantly filled with idiots, weebs and cucks trying to mislead you it genuinely helped me a lot, thanks to it I discovered a huge variety of artists and resources which really expanded my vision on this whole industry and career.

For example, my main goal is to learn how to draw from imagination, becoming a concept artist or illustrator would be my goal and I noticed how all the artists who seem to be really good at it (KJG, Peter Han, Feng Zhu, Scott Robertson) put a great emphasis on perspective, construction and understanding 3D volumes. Afterwards by getting more profecient at it I started to notice what I need and repeated the process: looked at artists that have the skill that I need and learned from their books and courses.

Meanwhile my local art school just put me in front of a bust/model and told me to draw it following the sapes which despite being useful wouldn't have helped me half as much compared to understanding the volumes and perspective.

>>3377203
This really isn't in any way a good place for learning art unless you are an absolute beginner.

>>3377377
what the fuck? this place is the absolute worst place you can go if you are an absolute beginner
retards giving other retards their advice creating a never ending loop of pure shit, the only sane way to go on this board is if you already made it

>>3376563
>all the contradictory advice
>all the vague criticisms with no in depth explanation
Post examples. Because chances are, you're just not paying attention.

>>3376563
>>3376617
>>3376722
>>3377178
>>3377484
Are there any boards out there anywhere that anyone here could recommend? I'd love to find an acrylic board where amateurs posted their stuff and discussed.

here's one i did - I suck but I do it because i enjoy it, not trying to be a pro or even public.

I also did highlights with UV paint so it looks cool with black light. hanging in my bedroom.

The only thing I really want an answer to is what do I draw? I get I need to be drawing but choosing what subject to focus on, and what to actually draw to focus on that subject is overwhelming. Just drawing anything won't help you improve at a steady rate.

>>3377513
JUST DRAW WEEK thread. Its there to give people some focus when doing studies. Their doing trees this week. Make sure to watch the youtube video that their Op links. Its a hour long so draw something while you watch.

>>3377513
just a moronic beginner but maybe draw whatever you are worst at drawing?

if you suck at faces, draw faces

if you suck at landscapes and perspectives, draw that... you get the idea.

take something you have already drawn that you like and draw it from a different perspective...

just off the top of my head...

btw what do you think of >>3377502
gimme your two cents worth.. it's a scan of acrylic so some artifacts in there that are not really there. like the fucking lower outline of the eye is not seen irl. just the way the scanner did.

I'll post a really bad pic of it under UV if anyone is interested...

post something bro..

cant be worse than mine!!

>>3377513
I have a list I go through when I'm stuck for something to draw

Humans
>Body, face, hands, feet, and clothing
Life/Style
>Life drawing, gesture drawing, master studies, comic studies
Environments
>Landscape, forest, urban, indoor setting
Animals
>Dogs, cats, horses, birds, weird animals, deep sea fish
Machinery
>Old cars, factories, farm equipment, heavy machines, military vehicles
Classic still life
>Flowers, fruit, skeletons, sculptures, trash

Wow thanks for wasting 13 and a half minutes of my precious life reading this nonsense.

>>3376897
That's the only reason. You're too scared to post. No need to fake. Most of the people who post their work after talking shit were booty. This won't be any different.

>no direct way to learn to advance (everyone keeps giving their own two cents on it)
gee, its almost like some kind of "art"

>>3376573
Loomis gave me cancer but bridgemans books were pretty good

>>3377579
>He wasted the time of his life he could've been grinding
Sad!

>>3377502
>>3377520
You need to improve your values.

>>3377206
/ic/ is just a whole pile of shitty content with chunks of good stuff. If you know how to filter through and what you can expect you can actually get some good content. Sometimes just coming here and seeing some great painting from whatever digital artist motivates me to go back to work. Sometimes some few gems or learning material get posted that helps me overcome some struggles.

But really, most of the learning should be away from this shit of a place.

loomis is not a meme retards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r5IENxekAM&t=31m00s