/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

this is a good thread

>Forcing yourself to draw rocks for 30 hours

You guys really have no passion for art, huh?
Anyways, have fun with your new RPG-esque delusion

>>3361217

>>3361217
If I wanna draw comics, and the setting takes place outside. chances are in going to have to draw some rocks. Dont see how drawing rocks is bad or un fun.

>>3361207
Wtf. With this and >>3352422 it's almost like /ic/ us becoming a place with useful threads where we actually learn how to draw. I can't believe it.
I hope this idea will last long and end up being useful.

>>3361221
can someone explain this crab meme to me?

i just dont get it.

>>3361257
It's based off the crabs in a bucket scenario. idk if it's true or not but they say that when you put a bunch of crabs in a bucket they all try to climb out but as one reaches the top the others will pull him down. Then as another reaches the top the others will pull him down as well. The same can be said of many on /ic/ as they actively pull others down with their "crab" mentality believing the success of others hinders their own.

>>3361259
>idk if it's true or not but

You can literally google your answer that'll have videos among videos showing said crab behavior when inside a bucket.

>>3361234
Have a good rock tutorial https://johnmuirlaws.com/how-to-draw-rocks/

Good post - I will contribute

>>3361217
The rocks are something that's actually fun for once desu, not just fucking contextless boxes and cylinders.

>>3361259
damn, utterly sad that /ic/ can be summed up in one simple metaphor.

>>3361265
i did after it was explained to me. from google, “If I can't have it, neither can you”. fucking crabs man.

>>3361207
Hey do you know more free reference packs like those?

>>3361217
>>Forcing yourself to draw rocks for 30 hours
>
>You guys really have no passion for art, huh?
>Anyways, have fun with your new RPG-esque delusion
It's not bad you should try it

>>3361207
Rocks!

>>3361375
it's an unfunny forced meme by newfags who can't draw for shit and get butthurt when you point it out.

>>3361422
GG lad, first person to actually draw something.

>>3361207
I have to manually click all those damn rocks? just fuck my shit up senpai

We're all gonna make it.

>>3361502

>>3361405
Are you looking for anything specific? I could probably find some. I usually just search google, gum road and CG peers to see what comes up.

>>3361520
I mean thematic high rez packs like this for free. Not looking for anything in particular.

Good to see some people are getting serious. I'm cutting back my time on here but when I do stop by it's nice to see more people are getting motivated to work harder. Keep moving forward /ic/

Might as well post my rock. I was conflicted over posting it here but eh whatever. I probably should've chosen a better rock tho.

>>3361207

I'm going to try to start drawing with these threads, I've never been able to stick with Loomis.

I can't figure out how many planes to start with. If I start broad, I find it very difficult to cut out more subtle planes. If I try to capture more planes off the bat, then my overall shape seems to suffer.

>>3361259
So, /ic/ are basically Filipinos?
at least 3 hits for crab mentality in front page google are phillipine articles

>>3361533
Here's a WW2 themed pack I found

https://cubebrush.co/tomlopez/products/zlc95w/free-ref-pack-wwii-re-enactment

does draw imply you shouldN#t care about values too much?

>>3361588
Why I see picture of girl with her eyes closed, hair falling to her face, blowing up small guy lying in front of her? Am I degenerated so much, or somebody else see it???

This is funny because I was doing rocks today because of that video and now there's this thread.

The first three were mostly hard round brush but I relented on a texture brush made by someone else (which I hadn't tried yet) for the last rock. First three too about an hour and a half combined.

>>3361221
KEK is that the crab from One Punch Man?

>>3361207
Before this video all I was doing was upside down drawings of manga characters. Guess these are nice. First FZD video I watched and he seems like a nice guy.

>>3361729
Reference for the bottom rock... Didn't account the scan to be facing that side

First rock

>>3361744
reference

>>3361217
>WAAAAAA STOP PRACTICING THINGS
Snip snip

is there a way to batch download images on gumroad? downloading all the photos one at a time is killing my wrist

Good job everyone! Just finished up my first page, open to any crits.

i stopped drawing rocks because you start to get comfy not needing to worry about proportion, and just scribbling in texture and shit. is this another one of feng's plots to sew bad information that's presented well to trip up hopeful students?

>>3361207
>gumroad
Wow what a terrible way to download lots of files.
Does anyone have a torrent link or something?

>>3361693
Can you share the brush?

>>3361422
More rocks.

>>3361866
Looks nice man

>>3361217

Feng's whole thing seems basically based on the idea "You can find cool inspiration in mostly anything if you know your subject, and you can make mostly anything look cool." I don't necessarily buy the idea of grinding 30 hours of just rocks in a week, but I definitely see the value of doing a few pages of rock studies, tree studies, etc. 'Mundane' objects that can actually be impressive and interesting (rather than shit like shoeboxes and coffeemugs).

Looking at the OP, those rocks look cool. My rocks look mediocre at best in comparison, so clearly there's more going on than brainlessly copying rocks. There's design, line weight, some perspective, etc. You're training up skills when you're drawing any subject, those forms you depict when drawing rocks don't evaporate when you change subject. I think in the video Feng suggests stuff like rocks because they're reasonably easy and can look like mostly anything, so it's not too discouraging when it looks 'off' from your subject the way it is with, say, a face.

>>3361660

I saw Feng do some basic values in his video, but it's more of a quick wash and some highlights, rather than too much painterly soft/hard edges and everything. One value for shadows and one for highlights seems to be enough to get some good effects without getting lost in painterly rendering.

>>3362000
don't know about this white outline thing. i get why it's there, for atmosphere, but i think it kind of ruins the relief effect, kind of turns them into flat graphic elements

>>3361207
>>3361779
>>3361901
I downloaded the first set of images from gumroad but they're pretty disappointing. Only a handful of images have interesting rock shapes. Regardless I reupped them to for anyone who wants a quick download.
https://mega.nz/#!fHI0yQjb!AMDw1aspfJyQBktr51zL6GROjzdcsE1-U-BBkXPbros
The images are way too big for the image quality (5100x3400), so here's a smaller version with images downscaled to 2000x1333.
https://mega.nz/#!jTYEiKSK!mqGO9m02m5pDZYmYowqPRnnBcs0HQVCLdaKTmmIpN50

>>3361207

>>3362012
Thank you!

>>3362005
>for atmosphere

I think it's more for contrast, it makes things 'pop'

>>3361221
>>3361757
This crab meme is so fucking bad... If anything, I'm trying to help
You guys can't find anything better to draw? Anything you want to learn, or some subject that you enjoy, or perharps a personal project... Literally ANYTHING better to put 30 fucking hours into?
But don't mind me, I'm just wasting my time here to sabotage anonymous' careers somehow

>>3362031
perhaps, i think that's what make it's less effective. i initially was actually going to add ' it looks a bit like a pop-out book' but i thought that might sound retarded. white lines like that are often used to indicate atmosphere in comics, that's why it came to mind.

anyway i accidently found a photo of one of em

>>3362044
makes it* not make it's, weird mistake lol

>>3362042
what's wrong with drawing rocks matey? There are no rocks where I live, so it's actually kind of fun to study and draw them.

>>3362058
lol where do you live?

>>3362042

I agree that 30hrs on rocks is a little excessive, but I think you can't see the forest from the trees. Drawing rocks CAN be fun, drawing mundane subjects instead of space marines CAN be interesting, and the outcome CAN look good if you actually use your design brain instead of your 'aimlessly copy the subject' brain. Not to mention if you look at the OP you could imagine any of that stuff making a really appealing background for your space marine.

Drawing a rock / any sort of subject can be a great exercise in showing form, line weight, etc. And it's nice when you're stuck in that sometimes paralytic state of 'what should I draw?' or 'I'm not good enough to start on my project' or 'It'll just look like shit when I'm done' to just do something. Nobody is really that afraid of fucking up a 10-20 minute rock drawing, it gets you going.

If someone on /ic/ is between spending 30 hours on rocks because they find it motivating or shitposting about why they can't draw their waifu, let 'em draw rocks. It's not useless busywork if you're doing it analytically.

>>3361745
I don't like to seek references so I just stole yours. Also, Op, can you post a bunch of refs like an OP of anatomy thread?

>>3361207
>>3362012
And the second set:
https://mega.nz/#!6XQmCQzS!IS1HxG408cjovCKNz6eUJECV2LPDxCvFFhtFltPOo1M
Small:
https://mega.nz/#!3OxkBLIR!mEVGJEJ6mTO0giQO_O8RD7wT9L9V9zBpfoaHSH6GQlg

>>3362042
No, you are being a bitch that doesn't seem to be able to understand understand the fact that people may want to draw different things than you.
Everyone here clearly wants to learn how to draw rocks, you idiot.
People are right in calling you a crab because you came to a fun and simple thread about drawing rocks and tried to disuade everyone from doing it because you don't like the subject.

Just Draw?

>>3362114

Back the fuck up crabs reeeee
[screams in turtle]

>>3362123
Now lay down perspective grid and try to understand object's 3D form.

>>3362020
underrated post

>>3362131
Post your work - then we talk.

>>3362150

Don't bother with the grid then if you're gonna get butthurt about it, but he's right. Carry on doing what you're doing if you'd rather be a baby when someone gives advice, just don't be surprised when your perspective is constantly skewed.

>>3362152
Do you know what "fun" means? Did you watched the video in OP post? Tryharding with perspective for a fucking 20 min sketch, are you real?
Fucking crabs, man.

>>3362155

Someone telling you to work on your perspective is meant to help you, not discourage you, but if you're going to be a child about someone offering you advice maybe consider a different venue that isn't literally called artwork/critique. It's childish to post your work here and then immediately go on the defensive crying about crabs because someone gave you advice that wasn't even mean-spirited.
I was encouraged by the crab meme at first because it was a counter to /ic/'s 'proud to be a bitter shitposter' attitude, but inevitably it's getting adopted by beginners to completely shirk advice you don't want to hear because 'muh crabs!'. Perspective isn't 'tryhard', it's one of the most important fundamentals and one of the easiest ways to make your stuff look decent.

>>3362177
Post your work, crab. I don't care what you say.

>>3362181

Carry on filling your brain with tired memes instead of actual knowledge then, you petulant manchild.

>>3362183
Nobody listens to a crab. Prove that you've gotten out of the bucket, then people will listen to you. Otherwise you're just another crab in the bucket, whose existence is negative to everyone else.

>>3362123
>This is what happens when you skip rocks
wew
funny caption though, I like you, but >>3362131
is right. you're treating it like its flat and not a 3D form. Just use a bit of caution on you're next study, ok?

I did some last week, they were in last thread. I'd do mare and cont' more but i sliced my finger at work and it makes holding a pencil difficult. I really appreciate this thread tho

>>3362181
>le post ur work
>calls others crabs

>>3362150
Don't get mad. You did good job, but it would be so much more beneficial to apply basic fundamentals. You chose 3/4 view photo as a reference and decided to draw it from similar angle. If you copy 1:1 that way it is your choice, and it is still cool because you are drawing, but the whole point of drawing 3/4 view is to draw in perspective IMHO. It is pretty obvious your drawing has flaws in it's volume. Try to simplify reference into basic geometric shapes, then draw those shapes (preferably in slightly different angle to reference) and then add detail. I did tons of these for practice, it is hard. But you will benefit from it in a long run. I will post my work (it's 3rd time I am doing this, I am not great but I am working full time concept art), I don't have anything more recent to post since I am too busy with work. No, writing this post took me little time and I wouldn't be able to draw anything instead.

>>3362150
fucking ngmi retard
>>3362187
>>3362187
lobster bros.

>>3362186

Your problem is that you've got a shitty attitude that makes you view critique as hostility, so where you could have help you instead have crabs.

You've already got a crab's mentality. You've got a crab's hostility, a crab's poor self esteem which leads to a crab's defensiveness, a crab's inclination to something being antagonistic instead of collaborative. You tell people to post their work so that you can dismiss them, but you know that if they did, you'd shit on them anyway. You communicate almost exclusively in kneejerk memes instead of trying to actually have a dialogue with anyone, you have no interest in understanding, only fighting.

You fear the crabs, anonymous. You hate the crabs. But don't you see?

You are the crabs. Ascend to lobsterhood, take advice with grace, view critiques with good intentions, and give critiques with good intentions. Only then can you achieve enlightenment. Until then you are just another crab in the bucket, seething with anger when someone offers you a claw to the top.

>>3362211
Sasuga Lobster- kun
Spoke the truth
Craps flip the bucked
Hide underneath it
As it was their savior

Yappari Crabs saiaku da

crabs and rocks

>>3362227
Great stuff

>>3362210
>>3362211
>>3362215
>crabs circlejerking yet no work posted
Pathetic.
Bully this guy >>3362227, he fucked up his perspective on a bee, look at the right wing and right front leg, ha-ha! What a moron, posting his work in the thread for a beginners!
You're fucking idiots.

>>3362202
So apparantly you the only one who can speak human.
>but it would be so much more beneficial to apply basic fundamentals
Have you watched the video? What Feng said about fundies and drawing just for fun of it? What if I DONT want to apply fundamentals such as perspective and do it with mistakes without caring? I can do entire constriction of any kind (ty Scott Robertson) yet I just don't want to, it's boring.
I'm gonna make it, and this hater crabs never.

>>3362211
I wasn't even the original guy you were snipping at.

I'm saying nobody wants to have a dialogue with you. Everybody here knows about perspective and fundamentals, and how they are important. But just knowing isn't enough.

You're just a crab, until you prove that you aren't one.

Continue snipping if you consider that a good use of your time, nobody really cares until you post your work.

>>3362244
just stop lol. every single lobster that has responded to you has been better, crab. The guy you tried to drag down with you is indefinitely better than you are. "Haven't you watched the video?" Haven't you, you fucking idiot? the idea is to build and grow your fundamentals inherently through the process. he talks about this when you move onto tree studies and have to apply perspective. You just skipped to the end and right into doing animals. no rocks, no trees, no structures. I know you're lying about doing the Scott Robertson course because every other person who I've seen compete it is a shit ton better then what you're posting

just take the fucking advice, and draw some rocks. Or stop posting. either way, stop embarrassing yourself

>>3362244
I am both >>3362131
and >>3362202

Like I said- go for it. It is much better to draw the way you do than not to draw at all. But consider how much more you would benefit if you moved one step further. Multiply time/ improvement rate x10, no kidding.

But feel free to disregard all above as long as what you do keeps you drawing.

#lobstersbeatcrabs

Would you both shut the fuck up with your endless 'muh crabs' and 'post your work'? The thread was fine until you started throwing fits over someone offering a simple critique.

>>3362244

>randomly dragging some random dude posting his work into your tantrum because you couldn't take criticism

He's climbing out of that bucket but clickety clack, eh?

>>3361934
Thanks anon

>>3362279
The sad thing is not only does the crab not realize just how many times better the person he's trying to bully is, he also does not understand what he is being criticized about.
He wasn't criticized because he's a beginner with bad drawing skills, he is criticized because he misunderstands what Feng is talking about and thus did not even attempt to apply many of Feng's important points from the video.
Meanwhile this guy >>3362227 that the crab tries to bring down, understands the principles discussed in the video, applies it correctly and naturally produces better results than the crab anon while still enjoying the process. It's no masterpiece, but it demonstrates a good understanding of what the video is about, which is something the crab fails to do.
It's such a shame he chose to have an outrage fit instead of calmly digesting, evaluating and applying the very simple, polite & valid critique.

>>3361423
this. the crabwave and the pron wave before it have the worst things to happen to this board.

how did they even found out about /ic/ did some normie artist mentioned it?

>>3362269
Vigilance is key. Crabs lurk around every corner, under every rock. You could have crabs right now and not even know it.

I didn't believe but it can be actually fun.

>>3362079
>>3362012
God bless

>>3361702
Yup

scribbly rocks

OP here, sorry I didn't check to see if the ref packs were zips, they usually are. I'll try to post a couple in the thread.
>>3362012
Thanks for helping out anon.

>>3362539

>>3362542

>>3362545

>>3362546

Has anyone found any sketchbooks with brown/toned paper that aren't the overpriced strathmore ones? All I can find is brown paper rolls.

At this point I feel like just getting a bunch of a4 kraft paper and getting it spiralbound at a thesis place.

>>3362042
whats 30 hours compared to a lifetime of drawing?

>>3361902
That brush is one I picked from Delharme's oil pack, just go through and fine one you like and delete the rest, that's what I did

>>3361658
Thx anon!

>>3362550
>looking through amazon for bulk paper, ring bindings and a heavy duty 50 sheet hole puncher just to outjew strathmore and every other overpriced sketchbook

>>3361217

Just draw a rock inside a box.

>>3362115
Beginner here, how did you get the beetle in the middle to look like an embarrassed anime girl?

>>3362635
Just add pink blush lines under big round eyes my dude. Easy

>>3362566
not that anon but i cant find it from google. do you have a link?

>>3362566
Thank you!

>>3362042
It makes logical sense that beginners shouldn't attempt difficult study subjects because they will not come out well and they may get discouraged. Feng talks about increasing the difficulty of the subjects being studied over time so that you can build confidence and ability at the same time.

>>3362539
>I didn't check to see if the ref packs were zips
That was definitely disappointing but oh well.

my fingertips hurt

>>3363002
How to get as good as you?

>>3363003
nigger, stop, I don't know what I'm doing.

>>3363003
Just eat a lot of shit and get fucked in the ass all night long im sure thats what that little gay bitch does!

>>3362012
You could have resized it by half so 2550x1700, also try batch saving as a lower quality, like 70% jpg or something low enough to retain the image but not lose anything but filesize. Appreciate it anyway since I don't feel like downloading a bunch of 10MB photos individually that I can't even see before I download.

I don't know.

>>3361207
Question
does the last version of photoshop lets you see the recently opened files as thumbs?

>>3361873

If you think that drawing organic stuff like trees and rocks is only scribbling textures and not worrying about proportions, then you have done it wrong. These kind of exercises are good for training your eye for proportional relationships and grouping values for different planes.

Of course there will be people who just draw rocks like big messy blobs and scribble shit in there but they don't probably have any grasp of fundamentals (perspective and value). But if one has idea how to plot the lay in of the picture and then group values, these are good exercises. The video in OP also suggested drawing animal skulls which have more subtle plane shifts and softer edges, and once one has confidence in determining planes and values of rocks, skulls are good place to go next.

But then again, people in /ic/ seem to have problem in learning a new skill and tend to get stuck in drawing rocks (or anime girls) for months and nothing else. These exercises are great sketchbook fillers and warm ups (and the subjects are great for life studies) but of course you should take in learning perspective or figure drawing at same time. Don't put all your eggs in one basket etc.

>>3361217
Post your work

>"When I fart"

>a gothic poem written Adremalach Goodrich.

Death, decay. This Putrid Stench
Brown deadly gas, omitting from my ass!
This sour disgusting smell fills my fucking nostrils
The walls dilapidated, soaked in crusty jizz from when I masturbated
Destructive gases slowly filling this structure I call my domain
Shit droplets begin to rain from my hot lava ass
Excrement demons begin to rejoice to celebrate this sanctimonious cloud of pure shit
Blast from the past! You must bow down and worship my ass! Again. And again. And again.
Prepare to have your senses raped, by this disgusting smell, the blackest satanic art,
Of When I fart

>>3362550
My local art store sells 'the art studio' 110gsm a3 50 sheets for under $15 (aus) a pad which is a pretty alright deal imo. Pretty sure it's not an international brand though. Interested to hear if you find something better though anon.

>>3363096
#1 reason to draw rocks is that they're relatively easy to draw, because you can fuck up proportions and perspective and still have it look decent, which means you're more likely to keep drawing them and training your eye

the point is for people who are beginners to actually get to work, not to worry about a bunch of shit and give up 5minutes in.

did you watch the video or just crab

>>3362521
I really like this. Good job.

>>3363002
Suge-~!

i know this in itself is a shitpost but it's been really interesting lately on /ic/ with a few really good threads, how there's a lot of good positive posts, with lots of actually drawings and then there's like one or two crabs just going nuts trying to kill them.

>>3363002
i wish i can get lines like yours. can you tell me if you use wrist or elbow or shoulder?

>>3363048
keep it up.

Daily shit

>>3362550
>At this point I feel like just getting a bunch of a4 kraft paper and getting it spiralbound at a thesis place.
do this, or just make your own sketchbook with a sewing kit, some cardboard and a bit of glue.

>>3363415
of all the drawing memes this is the stupidest one

>>3362550
yeah, it's called kraft paper, once you know what to search for it's easy

>>3363415
there's no elbow drawing, there's

fingers
fingers + wrist
fingers + wrist + shoulder

the elbow is used in all modes.

>>3363600
what.

technically you're always using the whole arm so you'd kind of be correct, but i'm sure the other anon is interested in the main pivot point being used.

going by that you definitely have wrist/elbow/shoulder distinction. when I'm using my elbow as the main pivot point the wrist and the fingers are locked 100%, there will be some minimal shoulder movement though.

>>3363048
feel the form

>>3363614
no, it's an illusion. really that's whole arm, because the elbow can only move on one plane. so unless you're adjusting using your shoulder then you get one stroke. your fingers and wrist are also always in use making fine adjustments, which you don't even need to consciously control. only the fingers are truly capable of independent drawings.

>>3362542
Hey, this rock looks like a dick!

>>3362863
Sorry I made a typo, it's Deharme

https://deharme.deviantart.com/art/Photoshop-Brushes-Deharme-OIL-SET-Photoshop-CC-707869840

>tfw my rocks look worse than everyone else's in this thread
Guess I'll just keep drawing

I may have put a BIT to much detail into this one.

>>3364093
>Guess I'll just keep drawing
Good conclusion. Keep it up mate.

>>3364106

Not accusing that you put it through a filter, but it really reminds me of one.

>>3364188
That's what I thought. It looks fake.

>>3364106

traced/ filtered

obviously

>>3364093
how about now?

Is this the type of thing where everyone rushes in while it's new and nobody sticks with it when the initial rush wears off? I don't think too many people have posted a second photo.

>>3364200
Maybe traced, but definitely not filtered, you can still see the individual strokes he made with overlapping opacity buildup

>>3364527
I'm doing more, just not really posting stuff.
>>3361943
Allocating 80 minutes for 4 of these per day cause I have other stuff I want to practice.

>>3364526
And these are the better ones

>>3364200
Overlapped with my ref.
Its close because i took my time to measure it out but i think this is enough to prove i didn't trace.

>>3361645

>>3361645
oops

man I just don't understand it.

>>3364854
try to put some texture into it, a rock isn't just a big slab of one single mat material

I'm almost done with my second page and I don't think I can draw anymore fucking rocks lads. How are you guys holding up?

>>3365193
For his purposes and current understanding (and lack thereof) textures aren't necessary. Those are pointless details until he understands form and plane changes.

>>3365300
just move to skulls or trees for the next one, the point is to make it fun so you don't stop drawing.

>>3365313
Now I'm thinking about it that's true, there's not really any form.
Maybe drawabox would be a good thing to start with?

>>3361866
Just finished up page 2. Tried traditional this time. It was kinda hard to fit them all on one page, easier to just draw digitally and resize everything. 3 more pages to go, Carpal Tunnel here I come.

Dumping pictures of trees because I got sick of rocks very quickly. Trees are much cooler.

>>3365499

>>3365503

>>3365509

>>3365512

>>3365514

>>3365516

>>3365519
The deadwood bonsai look boss.

>>3365522

>>3363096

tldr ur mom gay

>>3365534

Are people still working on this? Seems to have gone quite. Only 1 or 2 guys got to the second page. Are you all moving on to trees early?

>>3364562
Thats pretty good, wow!!

Day one

rocks

>>3366163

>>3366165
trees

>>3366172
bugs

I also wish the lighting would be better.

>>3366178

>>3365837
Yes they are! Here is a part of me second page.

>>3365499
It`s rock week nigga. Give me some more rocky references.

>>3364549
>>3365091
I've been drawing from some 32 rocks I collected off of flickr. If anyone is interested:
https://mega.nz/#!OagSFYSQ!VsM20xB5g5Oo37RcyW61-QRcztl6t6CWqbiuZ63R054

>>3362244
>I'm gonna make it

Yeah, you'll certainly make it somewhere.

Pic related.

>>3366181
rhinos

>>3366606

>>3366607

>>3362123

Clouds mountains. No ref, very happy

Day two

https://twitter.com/DomCarterAgain/status/978228406641979392

Anyone got the issue and knows what Feng said?

>>3363576
nice stuff man

traditional tree. any advice?

>>3367310
would also be interested

>>3361217
Hmm... who should I listen to... Feng Zhu or some random bitter virgin who doesn't draw? Tough decision.

>>3367331
this. 30 hours a week is only 4 hours and 20 minutes a day. you should be drawing at least 16 hours in a day to get good fast

>>3367360
>tfw he didn't mean drawing 16 hours in isolation but around other like minded folks and tons of inspiration

>>3367386
>even though he says the exact opposite

hurr

I'm having a lot trouble keeping the rocks small on paper; often times they just eat up the whole thing, or at least half of it. Any advice?

>>3367419
Draw smaller rocks in comparison to how big your paper is.

>>3367386
Inspiration is extremely overrated, you need discipline

>>3367419
You draw a rough size of the rocks before you start with detail, just make some vague blobs about the size you want them, then flesh them out.

I would also recommend reading one of the beginner books as it goes over this and many other basic questions a beginner might have.

>>3367419
Draw out 10 squares on the paper so yo can have a rough idea of where to fit all the rocks and then loosely block them out in pencil to make sure they'll fit. That's what I did >>3365433

>>3361207
Now that you have drawn some rocks, it's time to put them to use.
Design a golem !

>>3361217
as a beg, OP made rocks look fucking awesome

>>3367319
Btw, how do I get cleaner ink lines? If I make strokes too quickly, which is needed for the line quality that I want, the ink doesn't mark the paper properly. But slower lines give a less precise result. Tips?

>>3366546

>>3365499
>Trees are much cooler.
agreed

I quit drawing for two years while working full time. Realised how bad I've gotten and started drawing more than I ever did because I've turned to horse-shit. .. Does that count as a frown upside down?

>>3362012
>>3362079
Any viruses?

>>3367618

Can't advise too much about the lines, that just comes with practice over time. With the trees though, remember each branch has to be thinner than whatever its branching off of. Noticed a lot of what you did was branches thicker than the ones they were coming off of. And everything gets gradually thinner as it branches off like pic related. Sorry for the shit sketches, only had a couple minutes but you get the idea.

>>3368507
Ooh thanks! Wasn't really paying attention to that. Here's the ref, if anyone else wants to give it a try

>>3368020
good shit my nigga

>>3367451
this is garbage, but at least I have a beginning photo for a then/now years from now

>>3368168
that kinda look like my dick man wowee

>>3370450
not bad anon, keep it up !

>>3366606
>>3366607
>>3366609
Spend more time on the rendering part instead of just scribbling random lines. Look at the texture of rhino skin and deliberately and slowly put down every line of tone. Look at how other artists render via line.

Your contour is fine its just your line weight + rendering letting you down.

The more rocks you throw into a bucket of crabs, the easier it is for them to get out.

>>3370606
or you might just squish them

>>3365433
the top left one looks almost like a golem
well #8 and # 3 together

>>3368020

>>3361207

Fun exercise, boring result. Seeing a lot of neat ones here. How do I start to use digital brushes properly?

>>3371115

This one is wonderful. Can I ask you where you found the paper background? Googled?

>>3371195
Not sure which one it is since I modified it a bit, but it's one of these:
https://shinyfeatherres.deviantart.com/art/Fine-Cardboard-Texture-2-426404095
https://karenbjones.com/free-coloring-sheets/paper-textures/

>>3370757
huh, it actually does. Didn't notice that while drawing it.

>>3361340
Holy moly this is awesome. I can see how these principles could apply to drawing many different subjects. Thanks man!

>>3361207
In the video is he drawing with a mouse or a stylus?

Where's the week 2 thread?

>>3371201
Bless you.

>>3371115
Gonna start doing trees next.

>>3372532
Nice.

>>3362020
AAHHH Kill it with fire

>>3372532

are you using the same brush?

>>3372649
One for lines and a wide one for filling in some value.

>>3371989
Sorry I was kinda late, here it is

>>3373033