/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3352422
/AQT/ would be /AGD/, thought of calling it anatomy quickdraw hence the silly acronym.

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>>3352422
I always feel so much more confident with the upper torso, and then I completely fuck everything up underneath that -_- Practice practice practice, 20 minutes as prescribed
>>3352424
This looks so appealing

>>3352422
>the work you upload doesn't have to be the whole image or soemthing
Excuses~

>>3352422
Took a crack at it. Definitely need alot more practice.

>>3352577
Try to start with a gesture, its extremely stiff.

>>3352422

>>3352422

>>3352541
Only because I didn't do the rest of her. As far as your drawing goes, it's good but I think you made her a bit too short. At least your lineweight makes sense, unlike mine.
>>3352554
Pretty much, I actually drew the thing before I made the thread and wasn't feeling like drawing it again.
>>3352588
I don't know how to express this the best because I can't redline it right now, but the lines going from the ASIS (Landmark front of pelvis) to the knee are set a bit to the middle. I mean the ones that define the form of the upper leg, If you look at the image the shadows/highlights are far to the sides of the legs, I know it's a bit nitpick-y but I think it makes a difference. Another minor thing is the fold where the breast meets the armpit, I feel like its missing the line that would convincingly portray the breast as slightly above the arm.
>>3352636
Damn son, you've got the face down. I like it but I think it's a bit too stiff, I find I have the same issue so I have to intentionally exaggerate the flow when I set the drawing. And the hips could do being a bit wider.

I have more images from NMA if you guys think it would work? Or anyone else feel free to post something. I just want to hear your opinion on when to change the ref seeing as /ic/ tends to be slow.

I have a lot more than pic related these are some I like.

>>3352422

Great idea, I'll post one my take on it in a few hours.

>>3352424

Draw overhand anon, and don't be a noob drawing like you're writing an essay, you'll make your lines cleaner.

>fuck up lines
>try to cover it with values
polished this turd for too long

>>3352422

please no bully

I trusted that I was going to have enough time, but the face cost me a lot and I couldn't darken more the drawing

Not really sure what I'm doing, back to proko

>>3352655
you could post them after a couple more people participate, or if they do not participate anymore, share them so that they follow the ones they have already drawn

>>3352742
i think you captured the strain of the awkward pose well. better than the model really

>>3352422
Did I do well to concentrate on the line work even though I didn't get the shading done in time?

>>3352422
Yeah, good idea. I liked the orb study thread.

I made the upper half too big. The head and upper arm/hand combo made this pose really difficult for me for just 20 min... I spent about 40. Normally I spend 2-3 hours minimum on a figure study.

>>3352422 (OP)
Yeah, good idea. I liked the orb study thread.

I made the upper half too big. The head and upper arm/hand combo made this pose really difficult for me for just 20 min... I spent about 40. Normally I spend 2-3 hours minimum on a figure study.

>>3352422

>>3352422
I actually referenced that pose the other day so I might as well. Arm/hand seems tremendously fucked looking back at it.

I know I messed up the tilt

>>3352541
Looks like she's falling over.
>>3352577
You got a long way to go, just keep practicing, focus on gesture. One thing I;d reccommend is using a harder line and softer eraser instead of vice versa. It looks all blurry rn.
>>3352588
Looks ok, that is a grainy ass picture.
>>3352636
I like the flow, but make sure the angles of things are correct, and focus on hands a bit.
>>3352742
Really nice volume, too bad abt those hands.
>>3352885
The gesture and shadows look accurate, just looks like a really quick study.
>>3352982
Form looks a little soft and blobby, try throwing in some sharp angles and straight lines where appropriate.
>>3352987
Pose is nicely balanced and the shading and hatching is quite nice.
>>3353162
Quite good, my only nitpicks would be that her face is angled more in the ref, and you kinda made the feet up.. but they still look okay.
>>3353204
I guess you softened the angle of her upper body, but at least it looks nicely balanced, which most of us failed at. My fave so far.
>>3353360
Or maybe this is my fave? Looks traced, but it isn't.. I can't believe you did this in 20 mins.

>>3353162
..and when I say angled, I mean you drew it too symmetrical/straight on to camera. I think? I dunno, the placement of the features is weird somehow.

>>3353474
Thanks ! I haven't posted yet but I really like the concept and how you try to respond and give criticism to everyone. I hope it will last long !

>>3353604
I wasn't the op, can't take credit there.

>>3353604
>>3352422
Help.

>>3352422
Is it just me or is it now impossible to inline quote more than once now?

>>3352422
I like the idea, hopefully this keeps going, force it for a while if you have to until this becomes a part of the board and I think you'll have long-term success

>people using digital have much better proportions and placement compared to people using traditional

stop putting your reference on the same screen as your canvas digital guys. You are crippling yourself when it comes to learning proportion/sight measuring.

>>3352655
I feel like we'll get 20-30 attempts per ref, but the people who finished first will probably be bored after 5-10. Maybe at 15 someone can introduce a new one, and I imagine people can continue posting the previous ref for a bit.

>>3353025
Que?

>>3353628
also it's really obvious who is tracing (both traditional and digital) because their proportions are perfect but they draw no detail and have terrible line weight.

>>3353610
This is also not op, but...Try and place the ribcage, hips and spine first, then build the limbs and head around that. You've definitely given her a squeezed, skinny little torso.

Definitely keep practicing basic proportions, gesture drawing, and breaking down the body into simple chunks, placing those chunks in space properly.

I like how you;ve done the hand, that's a good way of simplifying things for this kind of study. If you continue the drawing, placing the fingers within that structure will be easy.

Your attempt at finding the eyeline is honorable, but remember that that line is on the outside of a cylinder (head), so when the head is tilted back that far, the eyeline becomes more of an arch, this will help you place the facial features.

Lastly, the image is unecessarily big, 1000 px is better.

>>3353633
Nobody is tracing, you just have no eye. Don't worry, this is a common error.

>>3353633
>>3353643
Ugh, I mean, >>3353360 may be a trace, but only in the very early stages, or traced very loosely/liberally. I admit, the linework looks really poor given the accuracy.

>>3353633
Who is tracing? Let's fite about it.

OP here, just woke up, nice to see so many replies.
>>3352742
That's really good m8, you got the pose spot on and the form is presented well.
>>3352885
That's a good gesture drawing, but if you'd spend a bit more time defining some of the bigger features like the shoulders, and the distinct fold in the abdomen it would be spot on.
>>3352982
That looks very uniform m8, even if its with the same pencil you need to have contrasting values, it really looks flat.
>>3352987
Proko? That looks straight outta Michael Hampton, colour me jelly friend, what medium is that? Love it.
>>3353061
As a rule linework > shading when it comes to learning. If you can't present form without shading you can't present them at all. So yes, but you have some way to go, line confidence isn't the best but you'll get the hang of it, you need to focus on line weight, you need to learn which parts have to be darker (things closest to you, sharp, hard surfaces etc.) and which softer (soft forms, things in the distance etc.)
>>3353149
I like this very much, you got the hand 100%, that's fucking great man. Love this. Is this charcoal? If I had to guess its charcoal with the little pencil thing right?
>>3353162
One of the better ones, good werk m8.
>>3353181
They aren't too bad, they just need to be made a bit more substantial and a bit more defined, reference the guy above with the redline sketch under his drawing.
>>3353204
Like the other guy said it is pretty balanced so who cares, love the marker-like shading.
>>3353360
Don't know if its a trace but modeling looks spot on, really has the weight/position down.
>>3353610
Upper body lacks definition, it's a bit nondescript right now, focus on finding the muscles and major forms like ribcage etc. to give it weight.
>>3353618
Thanks, I definitely plan on doing that, this thread is a success in my eyes so far, so even if it's the ~10 of us fags every day I'm good, as long as people post work we should be fine.
1/2

>>3353630
That's what I was thinking, post a new one after a while and anyone that wants to can catch up with the previous one, as long as it's in the current thread why not?

>>3353604
>>3353608
You can take credit for replying m8, thanks for taking the time to do it.

>>3353647
>>3353633
>>3353628
crabs buttmad that other people are performing better than them while trying to find petty excuses to justify their incompetence is a beautiful sight to behold

>>3353672
Thank you. It's a charcoal pencil. Red underdrawing is pastel pencil.

>>3353672
post a new pic m8
also thanks for the comment

>>3353689
I can't say if anyone traced, but this thread is for people who want to improve, so I don't see why anyone would trace, it is kinda pointless and that's all I'm gonna say. People who trace in these threads only cheat themselves.

>>3353690
Nice, in school I drew with just the little charcoal stick, ours were cylindrical, never bothered with the pencil things and our teacher's weren't to keen on them.

>>3353693
Coming up m8.

>>3352695
Forgot to ask, you mean overhand like the grip? As in grasping the pencil differently?


Alright this pose looks fun. I have to mention, I only have sets for Monika (current girl) and Lilias (thicc fap bait girl), I've uploaded them here:


https://mega.nz/#!U5syWD4Z!dQ-5U037Mjy-AJQJonjlC8XDGCklku40RvOsU9qIAfA

Feel free to use them, but I figure it would get boring drawing only the two of them after a while so anyone that has more please feel free to share.

Another thing is I think we would need to make a OP copy-pasta with links like the general threads, thoughts?

>>3353709
>Lilias
thanks senpai

Well, fuck, I guess I should have warmed up before but here goes...

What a shitshow... yikes.

Whats the difference between this and the study threads?

>>3353770
Take two.
>>3353784
> Whats the difference between this and the study threads?
Nothing substantial I guess, other than this being focused more on anatomy, and more as quick practice more than anything.

>>3353709

>>3353709
Thanks for the links senpai

>>3353709

>>3353709
Yeesh.

>>3352541
>>3353709
Take 2 with a pen, a bit better with proportions but still falling over :^)

>>3354063
The proportions feel strange. Please remember, the bones in the tights are the longest bones in the whole body.

>>3353474 >>3353672

I turned up the tones on the first one, it was another four and a half minutes. It looked more clear than it is, the paper is actually white

And the second >>3353709

>>3354143
Love it. How long you been drawing figures?

>>3353709

>>3354156
Thanks, I've been drawing for as long as I can remember, so I occasionally do some

but it's been more than two years since I started seeing anatomy stuff, although the approach I gave him didn't allow me to learn much.

I don't draw as much as I'd like to, but this year I decided to learn for real.

>>3353709

I really need to work on shading.

>>3353709
Wanted to see what happened with 15 minutes

Sorry if I'm a bit late. Still wanted to post mine.

>>3353642
Lastly, the image is unecessarily big, 1000 px is better.

My phone tends to put shitty quality images in high definition for some reason, don't know if I can do anything about it. And thanks for the advice !

>>3353709
About 30 min. I tried to give her more ideal proportions, but I got the gesture wrong.. and maybe her head is a bit smol.

Will probably continue.. I can't stop after only 30 mins!

>>3354330
thats the leasts of your problems.

>>3353803
Nice study of volumes, and muscles and roundness and such.
>>3353808
I guess you're focussing on the body, but if you focus on the hands, feet, and face and make sure you nail those, it will hold a drawing together even if the body is weaker.
>>3353854
I love the expression on her face and the nice swooping curves, but you're going over the lines too many times and they look a bit scratchy and unconfident. Try using a darker medium (6b pencil, or charcoal)
>>3353856
Chest is a bit broad.
>>3354063
Remeber that the crotch is at or just below the midpoint of the body! Practice gesture to solve the balance issues.
>>3354143
Yeah, looks better. A bit of symbol drawing in the faces. Your proportion and gesture are quite good, I think maybe just rendering and line quality need some work.
>>3354207
Just focus on getting the major chunks of the body down accurately for now, don;t worry so muach about shading. Those shoulders are super beefy.
>>3354330
Again, I'd work on proportions before shading. I like your expressive line. The feeling of the gesture is nice, too, if inaccurate.
>>3354387
No prob, as long as the ref is in the thread I think you;re good. The rendering is a bit hairy, but it's just practice so whatever. Looks quite accurate except for that hand.
>>3354567
Definitely an improvement! Torso still too skinny.

drawing faces upset me

>>3354618
Pls do a better job of presenting your work, nobody wants to click that shit, dude.

>>3353709
did about 20 minutes instead of 15 this time

>>3353709
shading noticeably worse this time

>>3354910
you should avoid:
hatching across the from and with the form,
slightly different angles like the arm vs the pelvis,
square cross hatching on organic things like you have on the ribs.

the point is really consistency seeing they're all the form. you can use all manner of hatching in the same image of course but if you do a bunch of different stuff on the same form it breaks it up and makes it look less cohesive.

it's not that important though, sort of the 'bad grammar' of hatching

>>3354910
Damn that's nice in my eyes

>>3353709
20 mins but halfway through I realized I made her torso too small so I redid the lower half but now her hips seem too wide. Her right shoulder seems too small as well.

>>3353709
20 mins but halfway through I realized I made her torso too small so I redid the lower half but now her hips seem too wide. Her right shoulder seems too small as well.

>>3352422
Am I better off skipping/simplifying facial features/hands/toes/other minor details in full-bodied studies like these as a complete /beg/ and just doing extra studies with a focus on face/hands/etc.? I did a decently well-measured and -proportioned version of the major details of the body, then spent another 20 improving the face/hands from dogshit to just really bad.

>>3354979
you have to learn how to indicate hands and faces at the same level of detail as the torso. if you imagine the finish of your drawing as focus on a camera you have to be able to draw 'out of focus' details.

although if you look at sketches by famous painters a lot of the time you'll find they often had trouble with the hands.

you'd think by some of his drawings degas was /beg/ tier for example

Spent 40 min on the main drawing. Really had a hard time figuring out that top arm and hand.

>>3355034
What do you use to shade?

>>3355034
That's a lot of solid thinking for just 40 mins, gj. Yeah that arm was a bitch.

>>3355045
Thanks, but it was 40 minutes on the mostly rendered figure, not for everything. I wish I was a speed demon.

>>3355043
Loosely block in with regular graphite, then smooth out and continue drawing with a blending stump, and finally go over again with regular graphite. I'm still trying to figure out how to the stump and graphite more effectively, though.

>>3355048
you could just use charcoal. like powder and a brush then the stump, might be easier

>>3355052
Yeah, I prefer working with charcoal, but I don't like using it for smaller drawings and it's a hassle to clean up.

>>3354910

saved as inspo

OP here, had to format my pc hence the late reply.
>>3354036
Cmon mate you can do better, finish it. You set decent groundwork, now just add some finishnig touches.
>>3354063
The legs are a bit short, especially the femur, remember, always err on the side of more length, especially when drawing women, looks better even if it isn't correct.
>>3354143
This is good but I think the lines needs some work, it kinda looks clinical, maybe that's just me though.
>>3354207
>>3354384
Those are some damn broad shoulders m8, need to work on "getting" the large shapes of the body, to give it some structure, this looks kinda soft and unconvincing.
>>3354387
Fuck me that's good. Well done mate.
>>3354567
That's good, but you need to add the folds where the breasts meet the shoulders, makes the upper body look wonky.
>>3354593
I like it, all the forms are there, it's very convincing, you even got the expression. I especially like how you handled the hips/midsection, kudos.
>>3354677
It's correct, but the lines are a bit hesitant, makes it look very stiff, let loose a little.
>>3354910
You working traditional m8? The last pic you posted looked traditional, but here I can't tell, the linework is great, you working with pen? I absolutely love it, where did you learn to shade like that?
>>3354954
Her right leg is very incorrect, it looks like it doesn't have bones in it. Another thing is it looks like you focused too much on proportions and neglected gesture so now it looks very stiff. Otherwise it ain't that bad.
>>3355034
I really like this, this is more of what I had in mind with the thread, describing your process, and the end result is great too. Good job, even I forgot to do this.

I'm gonna post an image seeing as now one has done so in the meantime, this time, anyone up for a WIP image? Take pics/screenshots while in different stages of the drawing and put them in one image next to each other, as you can see a lot of anons have issues with forms and go straight into shading.

>>3355817
I encourage everyone to post workflow images, no matter how good or bad you think you are, think it would be great practice for everyone. It's late here so I'm going to post in the morning, anyone else feel free in the meantime.

Here's a little Lilllias to change thigns up.

>>3355817
I'm down with WIP for longer timeframe. Taking several pics for a 20 min drawing is kind of a PITA.

>>3355835
But I guess lots of people are doing digital so for them it makes sense.

>>3355835
Oh yeah, timeframe is very flexible, I posted the timeframe as a general rule, so people don't just do one for 3 hours and polish everything. It's fine if it takes you an hour as long as the workflow is presented so people can see how everyone else works, goal is to help eachouther solve problems, if it takes you 40 minutes for a photorealistic copy, it would hlep less than someone doing a 90 minute anatomy study but presenting all the raw work and their thought process like > >>3355034

Hope it makes sense.

Cheers.

>>3355820

>>3355820
tried to keep this one simple

>>3355820
it's been quite a long time since I last uploaded something to /ic/, I started drawing somewhat seriously around January and this is the first piece I post since then.

Done this in something like 15-20 minutes, quite half assed I still need to study feet, arms, hands, faces and especially rendering, I'm really dogshit at it.

I did the right one without reference, pretty proud of it but the rendering really ruined it.

This is a nice thread OP

>>3355820
I'm going to do a pen and ink study. However, I've fucked up the balance already, so I might restart.

I wanted to work on my rendering so I took a few hours on the photo. Need more practice. Any advice?

>>3356004
Really good values and form. I especially love that chin highlight and how the ankle goes into the foot.

>>3356004
Rendering isn't too bad but I'd try to tone down the white on the chin and the eye and fix the rendering on the chin/jaw, looks like she has 5oclock shadow. My reasoning is that the face takes all the focus from the rest of the body which I find a bit bothersome.

>>3356038
Ah yeah I see what you mean. Thanks for the input.

>>3356004
This done? You still need to finish the hands and feet! You made the head a little small. Otherwise, the sense of volume and light is excellent.

>>3356094
I was just at a point where I couldn't look at it anymore. I will fix the stuff I got feedback for and wrap it up.

Got confused on how to place values here.
>>3355817
Thanks, OP!

>>3356156
I think I'm gonna grind hands after this cause I don't know how to handle them.

>>3356158
Nice pun, bro.

>>3354605 >>3355817

Now i improved the line and finish of the drawing, but also leave many lines marked to make it look more like a sketch. This time I didn't control the time so as not to limit myself so much, but it's still a fast drawing although it took me much longer than the previous ones

>>3356230
The feet and face look fantastic, but I wish you had been softer with the lines on the arms and the breasts. They're very flattening.

I gave it a shot, though the face fucked me up

>>3356242
the next drawing I do the same although softening some lines, I take advantage to vary with what they tell me

>>3355942
Got something workable after 2 more attempts, I swear op you're picking the strangest poses.

>>3355820
Atelier style, pic every 30 min.
Fixed the hatching this time, but made the head too big.

>>3356271
Blocking stuff in...

>>3355878
Some rough chicken scratch going on here, definitely try to go for smooth, confident strokes. Maybe work bigger. Also practice gesture so that you can balance figures better.
>>3355914
I like that this is simple and to the point, but like above, she's leaning too far forward.
>>3355919
This is so elegant, a lovely solution to the problem.. she looks like she's falling back, but she does in the photo anyways, but this is a nice exaggeration. The straightened hips and upper arm are nice adjustments that give more stability.
>>3355922
You seem to be hyperexaggerating the gesture and curves, which could be nice, but I feel like you've lost a lot of accuracy and balance. If you focus a bit more on accurate placement, I think it will come together nicely.
>>3355940
A little rough and flat looking, but everything is placed nicely.
>>3355964
I loled.
>>3356156
>>3356158
Super nice, you gon go far. I'd say the midtones are too dark on the first figure.
>>3356230
The face is really nice because you're merging your blacks, maybe try this on the rest of the body.
>>3356252
This is a pretty horrific drawing, my friend. She's all mutated! You need to practice translating what you see onto paper and get away from symbol drawing. That exercise where you try to copy the upside down horse or man will be enlightening for you. Practice drawing simple objects from observation like pencils pots and cups. With the figure drawing, for now I would keep it to the level of detail you've done the legs, you've gone into way too much detail on the hands (they look like skellingtons!) and the breasts. Don't even worry about facial features for now, just try to get the basic silhouette of the figure as accurate as you can.
>>3356320
Damn son this gooooood. Ballpoint pen? What are you doing differently with the hatching this time?

>>3356320
Head looks okay to me. Maybe it's a bit of an illusion caused by her hairdo being too small. I don't think it matters. If I'm going to get super nitpicky about the head, the chin looks a bit wee.

>>3356341
>What are you doing differently with the hatching this time?
Tried to follow >>3354919 advice and use diamond shape instead of square.
>>3356345
desu I'm seeing all kind of mistakes now, the hips look compresed vertically and kind of destroy the twist, the leg pushes to the left way too much and the right elbow should be at the level of the right nipple, etc.

>>3355878
Definitely need to get a bigger work area, I find A4 constricting but I make do.
>>3355919
Gesture is spot on, a bit cartoon-y bu I love it.
>>3355925
Thanks man. Glad /ic/ likes it.
>>3355940
Work on line confidence, looks a little scratchy.
>>3355942
This is great, maybe add some contrast via lineweight, otherwise looks good.
>>3355964
Dali is that you? Creative lmao.
>>3356004
Damn that's great son, can't find anything off except maybe change the background value because her right ankle blends with the gray in the middle and it looks weird.
>>3356156
>>3356158
You get it m8, well done. Gesture and volume are spot on.
>>3356230
Line quality is definitely very good, but try modifying line weight for volume.
>>3356252
Read the other reply, pretty much told you, but don't be disheartened, you always have to draw like shit before you start getting good, work on fundies but don't just grind them, take time to draw whatever you enjoy from time to time.
>>3356271
>>3356326
That's the point friendo, static poses are ez. Love the modeling, the hair is especially well done.
>>3356320
You and the 2 guys above have your shit together, referenced this when I was shading, as you can probably see. Great job m8. I am planning on having these threads regularly, would love it if you guys continue posting.

>>3356320
Okay, the technique looks sharp! I wonder how/if You blend (erase). Please.dear Anon, would You be so kind to show us the tools you use?

>>3356542
oh that's nice, seeing it in the thumb i thought it was going to be much worse just because it looks like hb on printer paper.

>>3356573
Well, it is sorta. It's plain printer paper, and started with HB, but continued with 2B, 4B etc. I have a few pages of the good sketchbooks left, so until I get more I practice on plain A4 sheets that I have a ton of.

next photo please

>>3356628
Thanks for reminding me, let's change it up a bit.

>>3356633
ive been debating about posting but fuck it, i need the critique. ive been using pen to try and fix my line confidence but so far its only preventing me from using construction lines. i fucked up the right leg so the knee is out of placement. if someone can give me some guidance ill probably try giving it a 2nd run.

>>3356633

>>3356633
Okay, today it feels better and slightly more accurate, my rendering is still dogshit, any advice for it?

>>3356944
Push your darks more. Even artists who leave a lot more white of the paper have dynamic value ranges.

>>3356633

>>3356633
BRRRAAAPPP

>>3356561
I'm doing neither, but my phone applies a weird constrast/balance thing to the pictures.
Also bic pen on copy paper, cheap but rendering takes too long, would not recommend.

>>3356628
Thought something with an actual background and accessories might be a welcome change of pace?

>>3357086
It seems taken from a session of porn photos

>>3356956
where that drawing is from?

>>3357086
Blown out photos and static poses aren't the most conducive to studies. I like the idea, though.

>>3356633
the shoulder was hard and i fucked up the proportions, but it's ok i guess

>>3357154
i also drew op pic inspired by the cross hatching anon, thoughts? im not sure what to think

>>3356633

>>3356956
Source, please

>>3357097
>>3357557
Yeondu44 and YDStudy on Facebook.

They make graphite look so easy.

>>3357568
Awesome, thank you!

>>3353610
>>3354567
>>3355820
I knew this one was going to be complicated, but I didn't know I'd fail like this.
It's been three years that I'm drawing and I'm starting to think that I'm clearly not doing enough progress. I mean, I'm really young, I have plenty of time to progress. But after three years I can only produce a 10min drawing with reference, full of mistakes and unshaded... Welp.

>>3357686
Woops.

>>3356923
Anatomically, you have it pretty much spot on, but I would try altering the shading a bit, try to add more contrast, might be that I'm partial to lines, but it wouldn't hurt trowing some lines here and there to make the drawing stand out. You can definitely do it without lines, but you need to increase the value range significantly so that the drawing stands out without the lines, seems kinda flat right now.
>>3356944
Can't really help you too much with rendering, since I'm shit myself (I'm borrowing from bic pen guy), but try adding more value, looks like you're working with only one type of pencil, you can still get more out of it though. The pose is great. Looking at yours and some others here makes me realize I made mine a bit too stiff.
>>3356994
That looks effortless, great job man.
>>3357086
All for it, but try a bit more dynamic pose, this one is kinda boring, needs to have character.
>>3357154
>>3357158\
Lmao, everything was hard for me in this pose, but you've done nicely, as far as the hatching one goes, my advice is to try to nail the values and gradations with single hatching (in one direction) and then work with wrapping lines, if you look at the last image that guy posted the hatching was at 45 degrees throughout. Try mixing and matching afterwards.
>>3357491
Man you pulled out all the stops for this one, love the strokes, was the paint applied with a palette knife? However, I think she's a tad bit too stocky, try making her slimmer next time, with women, making them a bit taller is the direction you want to trend to.

>>3357686
>>3357688
If you started from 0, that's not too bad of a progress, although you definitely could've improved more. The thing is you need to start practicing depth, not just breadth, doing 10-15 minute studies for 5 hours will only get you so far, much better to focus on one area and do deep work. If you want to get better at figures and anatomy, get one ref and maybe a bigger worksheet, and spend hours on it, but make sure you are actively thinking how things work, you need to understand that drawing isn't copying the form from 3d into 2d line per line. It's TRANSLATING 3d into 2d, that means that you have to completely chew out the form, digest it, then spit out the parts you need. Just like learning any subject, you have to chunk it into bite size pieces that you can comprehend, then start putting it together, I mean, people that learn math, chemistry, philosophy and what not certainly don't just memorize the textbook, that would be silly.

Drawing isn't easy, I would go out and say it's one of the most mentally difficult effort one can make, to continue with the translation analogy, to translate a language you need to be proficient in both languages, and 3d and 2d are very different languages. That's why all drawing books have you draw boxes and shapes into perspective, that's 3d 101, once you get into more complex forms you can start visualizing the clusterfuck that is the human body into manageable 3d pieces, all the while figuring out how to translate them into 2d.

Luckily for you, I can see that you understand what you're doing, you just need more practice. Do some studies like the guys above did, with all the problem areas (hands, face,feet) drawn to the side, but don't' do it for the sake of them, that's how you "study" anatomy, you get to a problem and then start grinding.

To put it shortly, drawing consists of finding out a way to "cheat" and "cut corners" when putting 3d into 2d, you can't copy it verbatim, so you find ways to manage.

>>3357792
>If you started from 0, that's not too bad of a progress

I don't know if I started from 0 but I know I was pretty bad. I'm the progressanon who post this everywhere. I did hand studies, feets studies, but I still can't get it right somehow. I try to understand the shapes etc. But I always end up making "ok-ish" poses or clothes.

>>3357820
Too me it's pretty much 0, can't see any perspective/anatomy in your earliest work, it's mostly symbol drawing. I actually think you've made stellar progress and don't think your poses are bad at all, the thing is you have to find a way to make the information stick better, for me it's sitting down and saying, I will literally draw whatever the fuck I want today, no fundies no shit, and when I start drawing and realize I'm making mistakes, that's when I actively find ways to fix them, and that's how I learn, if you make it fun, it will stick. I can see some mistakes in the hands, but nothing too bad, I quite like them, just keep going man, you can definitely make it. Don't beat yourself up too much, take a break every once in a while and just draw for fun, you'll see how much you can learn that way.

>>3356845
no critique....cool

guess ill post another one then and keep making the same mistakes

>>3357876
>>3356845

Your lines suck. Clean them up and stop chickenscratching. Measuring is bad, shading is mediocre (f you're not going to put an effort into shading, don't.) I get the feeling you're just drawing the silhouette and trying to guess how each part is drawn instead of understanding how the body works.

All this can be fixed by studying and practicing figure drawing. Try Proko and Hampton. Keep drawing and don't give up but don't half ass it.

>>3357820
I like you. Don't give up on your memes and try to be more focused.

>>3357876
Hey sorry m8, thought I covered all of them, wasn't intentional. The anon that replied has a point, basically you are still drawing the outline, this is the default behaviour when drawing and you need to practice yourself out of it. Try simplifying the form, start by a gesture drawing, really loose lines, then draw the ribcage and the pelvis, figure out how things attach to it, line quality will come on it's own, no need to beat yourself about it.

As far as the particular drawing, the main issue lies with the shoulders, this thread's purpose is for you to learn how other's approached the same problem, look above for drawings that you think are well made and see what they drew. In your case the shoulders and back are overly simplified, you need to work on the planes of the back, it isn't one swooping line from the spinal erectors to the shoulders like you've drawn it. The eyes are the biggest issue in every beginning artist, don't trust them.

I seriously suggest going to the artbook threads and download Michael Hamptons Figure drawing book. He is by far the best (imo) in showing the forms of the body in a simple manner. Pair that with any anatomy book for reference and you're set.

Finally, I don't have a tablet so I can't redline the drawing, but if there is something you are struggling with specifically, post and we could help you out.

>>3357016
Ballpoint has its pros and you have some skills. Right, I tried regular pen, but its a little bit insensitive to me. And took about an hour. The left one is a quickie. Both a little bit off.

>>3357917
>>3357978
learning hampton at the moment, but im still very early in the book. would you recommend going back to graphite or stick with pen until i fix my chickenscratching? its been a serious problem and i feel like it's my biggest limiter.

>>3358075
ballpoint is really good i find, is like a sharpish pencil but with nicer values, especially blue, the black ink tends to suck for some reason.

>>3358078
probably stick with pencil, but the main thing is just consciously drawing longer lines without scribbling or restating them.

it looks like you're rushing to me. slow and steady wins the race.

>>3358078
the pencil is the most basic and the best thing to start,, and you can do incredible things with it.

>>3358358
>>3358078
I forgot to say you can also practice hatching with it, you don't need a pen. But first you should learn to use the values well, the only difference would be to do it with lines instead of stains.

>>3356326
Finishing this up. Just reread the op, and I guess this is not totally with the spirit of the thread. I'll make the next one a quick sketch.

photo of the day?

>>3357086
This one would be difficult to do but I’m into the idea, I’ll see what I can do.

>>3358520
Not OP, but how about this?

>>3358529
Ah yes, a male finally ! I am pretty bad at drawing them so I'll give it a try tomorrow.

>>3357086
real rushed one before bed

>>3358529
gave up after 20 minutes 'cus I fucked it up

>>3356633
Can't into compressed charcoal

>>3358707
"You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try."

>>3358707
Try it again anon

>>3358741
not too bad, you should rely less on outline though, the front of her body could have been suggested with contrast instead of line

>>3358536
I like how you handled her outline, good job anon

didn't know where to put the highlights to show form, just made the hands bright to deviate attention.
>>3358802
like this?

>>3358858
yeah, the abs look good. don't be afraid to sharpen up the edges though. Pecs look kind of muddy, looks like you erased or something

>>3358858
fuck I forgot to take the wip pictures and looks like everyone is back to quicksketch too.
>>3358863
I tried to make sharper edges but didn't want to get up and sharpen the pencil.

>>3358870
you should be drawing vis ze edge of your pencil you lazy leetle boy. very naughty.

>>3358529

>>3358858
What pencils are you using?

>>3352424
That's incredible. I mean this. Good job I'm inspired to start drawing again.

>>3358894
Love using stylization to approach it, but that wrist is a little too dainty for the superman build and I think you could've pushed shape design in the calves some more.

>>3357781
Hard to tell, because the pic is crooked, but the legs look at odd angles. knees are a bit far down, and the left knee is too bent. Looks like her legs are going to collapse beneath her.

>>3358075
Second one has not bad proportions. As you know, the hatching is pretty sloppy, but you're just warming up to the medium.
For the first one, you;re thinking too much about outline and not volumes, so the angles look right, but you;ve ended up with a skinny ribcage and very flat looking arms. You could communicate more roundness not by shading more, but by being more careful about your linework where volumes intersect: joints, folded over areas. The lines on the first image are much more confident! You'll notice that happens automatically when you go fast, but you can import this look into a more considered drawing by taking more time between strokes, perhaps using an underdrawing as a guide, but still performing the strokes quickly.

>>3358707
Go slower, worry about accurate positioning, don't worry about values.

>>3358741
This is extremely nice. The outlines look nice to me, they give it a good forcefulness/energy, and I;m sure it would still look great if you wanted to fill in the bg.

>>3358858
This is great, too, but not as nice as the other one because you've gone into a bit more detail, thus giving yourself more opportunities to fuck stuff up. Minor stuff, but you missed the particular curve of the back, I;d say you;ve described too many lumps in the upper arm, and the whole upper arm/chest area is too long, the hands and head look quite a bit too small, but it doesn't look intentional, face kinda looks like a black guy.

>>3358918
Thank you for crit! I was initially thinking of having no hand, just a pointy spear arm thing. Maybe I should have no thickness change from arm to hand so it's more stumplike, but I still have a hand. Yeah, the left leg looks all organic and soft, don't know why I changed stylization part way thru.. I guess because it's unflexed?

>>3357568
Would be very interesting to see how they teach drawing in Korea. I know another artist, Namon, and her art is very similar in the approach, I assume they are not self-educated.

OP here,

>>3358078
I personally prefer pencil as it is smoother, just stop giving a fuck and start drawing from your elbow, make exaggerated gesture drawings, let loose.
>>3358488
Doesn't really matter, this helps too, especially since you posted an earlier version. I just want people to have in mind that the goal is to help each other, this way we avoid having people just draw things for attention, as happens in draw threads etc. In the OP I mentioned that just posting your work is enough to help, at least to people who wanna make it. Lot you can learn from learning how other artists solve problems.
>>3358529
That's a good one, gonna post my dud and start working on a new one, realized that I have to focus on legs more.
>>3358536
Her hips are substantially wider than what you've done. I know it's a quick work, but the way the arms attach to the shoulders doesn't present the same feeling as the pic, it looks very stiff and lifeless.
>>3358707
I did too, try again, I'll try to figure things out more this time.
>>3358741
Nigga that's solid, about the charcoal, here in Eastern Europe, compressed charcoal is the norm, soft charcoal is the exception, is it the same in the West?
>>3358858
The guy gave you great advice, but I think both ways work, I slightly prefer lines.
>>3358894
Nice stylization, has an old comic book kinda vibe.
>>3358921
Yeah, that's the problem with taking pictures, I noticed the legs are wonky, to me they kinda look like they are on slightly different planes. The left leg for all its errors stand on its own I think, but the right one looks a bit too foreshortened now that I look at it.

Didn't even want to post this crappy attempt, but here goes, gonna work on the second one and try a bit harder, any and all help is appreciated. Ignore the feet.

>>3358529
quickie

>>3359189
For how long do you draw?

>>3359200
You mean this one or how long i've been drawing?

>>3359211
>how long i've been drawing?

>>3359214
5 years, but i wasn't very hard working

>>3358529
Holy shit... How do people even draw this sort of thing? Body parts just wobble off or the angles are just wrong... At least I got the size correctly for the most part.

>>3358529
Wait, I just noticed this, but where the fuck are his balls?

WIP on my second attempt, critique away...


>>3359189
Very good effort, it actually helped me a bit with the legs. The pose is 100% there, other than his left arm being just a biiiit wonky, but I couldn't bother with it either.
>>3359339
Lel, try drawing it on paper from the screen, you digital fags have it ez when its on the same screen. Good effort though, looks like you handled it nicely.
>>3359374
Probably wearing a cup or something.

How big do you all draw on your paper/sketchbook when you study poses like this?

>>3357826
I tried that yesterday and it's pretty fun ! My final drawing still has mistakes, but at least I know where to put certain things in the future and I know what mistakes I make a lot. Thanks !

>>3357943
I will do my best to not disappoint you Anon.

>>3353610
>>3357688
>>3358529
I am pretty bad at drawing males, it's the best I can do in ten minutes. And >>3357792 I tried to do some study aside, I'll probably do more for the next one. Thanks ! (Plus a random hand.)

>>3358894
sugoii~

>>3359113
>eastern europe
hey where you from, hungarian here

SUGOIest thread on the catalog rn tbqh

>>3359391
A4 is about the minimum, you can definitely do A5, but that's better for gesture and croquis.

>>3359447
Yeah, this thread taught me I need to get better at male legs, among other things. As far as your work goes, the arm in the background looks like it's coming out of his head, and his right leg is too thin. I made a very basic redline for this, since it didn't take much and I could do it with a mouse.

>>3359457
Macedonia, I always think of Hungary as being far away, but we're second degree neighbors actually.

>>3359505
ah nice, that region has some really gorgeous places, been to montenegro last summer, planning on a roadtrip around there this summer too

here's a new ref so i'm not just spamming

>>3359513
and my drawing of it

>>3359513
I don't quite like this one, I feel like it has a lack of movement or something.

>>3359602
Excuses

>>3359602
Push your gesture then.

>>3359513
Spent 30 mins and still not satisfied.

>>3359555
a little stiff honey, try pushing your gesture a bit

>>3359922
Tried a bit more. Going to bed.

>>3352422
This is surprisingly productive for /ic/. Stop it, or this place actually go back to the old days of Tehmeh and ThDark when people were actually good.

>>3359513
This experiment turned out really bad, almost didn't bother posting. I just wanted to make her solid/stumpy... :(

>>3359937
It may be good for gesture practice, but the pose itself is very stiff. I'll post another male reference.

>>3360384
that guy looks a lot like me, must have a similar mix of races, weird going 'hey his ballsack looks just like mine' though

Draw.

>>3359513
I don`t know what am I doing but here it is.

>>3359513
>>3360384
I CAN'T FEEL THE FORM TODAY

>>3353610
>>3357688
>>3360384
>>3361859
>I CAN'T FEEL THE FORM

Me, every single day of my life.

nice thread. saw the images on mobile, so the individual proportions ended up wonky. for those wondering, i filtered my original photo to just greyscale for better visibility because the colors got washed out.

>>3361859
what grade of charcoal?

>>3358075

>>3362105

>>3362106

>>3362107

>>3362108
My wip, as you can see not a quickie, each picture about 30 min session. Charcoal def better tool for me right now and an A4 a minimum. My next work will stick to OPs intentions.

>>3358894
post moar
artstation/blog?

>>3358529
I started it off as a quick drawing but then I felt like working the shadows better and the 20 minutes turned into a couple of hours.

>>3362275
beautiful stuff, nice wan dude

>>3360384
What a hard pose.

>>3362153
http://christianfrederiksen.tumblr.com/

>>3360384

>>3358529
rate/crit

>>3362275
Use less grainy paper

>>3362964
Is that I'm drawing in a cheap booklet. I usually use smoother paper but I still like the way it looks on a paper of this type. Although it's interesting to know what other people think

>>3357086
This is one of the more difficult poses to master, especially at this angle. Good to practice though

Is the thread already dead?

>>3363981
Yep. No OP responds and refs - no thread.

>>3360384

Well, might as well post here. I posted it in /beg/, but got no feedback. The first 5 took about 3 hours, the last one about 40-50 min.

OP here, was busy irl.
>>3359513
I don't really like this one, her body is a bit weird, but it should be good practice nonetheless.
>>3359555
It definitely is stiff, if you look at the curves of the thighs and shins you'll see, they are a bit more pronounced.
>>3359922
>>3359969
The shoulders are a bit off, you've made them a bit too flat, where they are sloping downwards, otherwise it's pretty good m8.
>>3360262
That's exactly what you did, if you really aimed at that it's fine.
>>3360384
This is a lot better.
>>3361401
You overemphasized the gesture, but it's a lot better for it, I have to say if you tried polishing the coloring/shading that would be bomb, in the thumbnail it looks super professional, good work man.
>>3361859
That's good man, especially the dude. The girl is a biiit weird, at the torso but I can't really put my finger on it.
>>3361907
Practice basic shapes (cylinder/cone/cube) and relate them to the body, this helped me, don't bother with details, draw shapes.
>>3362022
Your gesture and shadng is spot on, and the anatomy ain't bad too, just keep going.
>>3362105
>>3362106
>>3362107
>>3362108
>>3362112
That's great work, don't bother how long it took you, thanks for taking the time to take wip shots, only try to resize them when possible, to about ~1000 max. You've pretty much nailed it but I think the solid shape get's a bit lost as you shade, this happens to me, the end result is the form being just a tad less convincing than it could be, great effort at any rate.
>>3362275
Daaamn son, you really went all out, I do think you should get paper that is a bit smoother.
>>3362625
The anatomy is decent, the pose is presented convincingly, just clean up the lines and its gucci.
>>3362693
Appreciate the creativity with the style, but yo need to work on presenting shapes in 3D a bit more.
>>3362936
The upper body is nailed, but his extended leg should be a bit more "alive", it is a bit stiff, just add a bit more curvature and it should be fine.
1/2

>>3364161
The anatomy is solid but the linework/shading is a bit muddy, define the forms a bit more.
>>3364192
Love it, solid work m8, the gesture is very well done, I don't even have to check the refs, but even if there are some discrepancies the overall work makes it a non-issue. Good work.
>>3363981
>>3364005
This thread does not depend on me, anyone can feel free to post a ref /critique. I'm just making sure someone doesn't get overlooked. I plan on having these threads regularly and plan on extending the rules so that we can make a better thread, feel free to post suggestions if you are inclined. I think it was a success eitherway.
>>3358905
Didn't see this originally, I'm glad you like it, I saw a lot good posts here that motivated me, just keep drawing, we're all gonna make it.

next photo?

Damn I wish I could draw better

>>3365025
Let's have another male. They're difficult to draw.

>>3356633
kinda late to the party

>>3352422
don't know how to draw the figure

>>3365359
digital doesn't count. What did you do, just make the image the bottom layer and then hide it when making the jpg?

>>3353709

>>3365411
why the fuck would i waste 20 min tracing a image just to post it in a lebanese treasure hunting forum?

>>3365411
Wow you are lightspeed retarded. If you really can;t tell just by looking at it, you can spend 30 seconds bringing both images in photoshop to do a comparison. The images don't line up at all.

>>3365486
That's a shitty counter argument, tons of people would do that.

>>3365359
Proportions, pose, and line quality are really nice. The perspective on the feet is fucked up. Ear is too small and low, and you changed the nose a lot, however, maybe that was just personal preference. The shading is really useless, you need to learn when to use hard edge transitions. It works in a few places in the highlight areas (shoulder is nice), but you need to go a bit darker and describe the volumes a bit more using hard transitions because right now the values aren;t giving us much extra information abt what we're looking at. It's challenging because it's easy to fuck up, but right now you could remove the values and you'd have basically the same picture. Just leaving the figure white and putting in a dark bg would honestly have more of an effect.

>>3365712
>The shading is really useless
it really was, i did it just so the sketch wouldn't be so blank
>That's a shitty counter argument, tons of people would do that.
i guess this really is 4chan after all

>>3356633
Lay it on me it’s the first time I have drawn in ages

>>3365141

>>3352422
op are you still there?

>>3365890
First, I'd take this baby into PS and blow it up 4 times, get er around the 250MP range. Making the pic sideways is a nice start, but try rotating it anouther 90 degrees it so it's upside down.

>>3365973
Looks nice.

>>3352422
im am new to being a drawfag, any advice?

>>3353770
nice proportions. dat face doe.

>>3354143
not bad. maybe invest in a pencil sharpener and kneaded eraser.

I can't into heads and faces

>>3353709

Tried to draw all of the refs
(excuse my shitty phone camera at night)

>>3355820
Gave this one a go

>>3367970
Nice!

>>3363131
I’ve tried doing this one but can’t get the shape of her right, anyone more skilled want to show an amateur how it’s done?

>>3365141

I'm enjoying Hampton's guide to gesture drawing.

>>3367970
Pretty good

haven't done a figure drawing in a long time, trying to get back into the swing of things

>>3355820

contributing a reference with some perspective
practice that foreshortening, anons!

>>3369349
thanks for this, was actually pretty fun

>>3369349
thanks for this, was actually pretty fun

>>3369349

>>3370202
Ngmi

>>3361907
>>3353610 (You)
>>3357688
>>3359447
>>3369349
Perspective is as terrible as drawing men for me. Help.

>>3352987
>>3354910
>>3356320
i love you, anon. so fucking good.

OP here,

>>3365122
You've set it up really nicely, all that's left is too work on it a bit more, maybe make the hips a bit wider and then work on cleaning up the lines.
>>3365359
Like the other poster said, the feet are a bit wonky, other than that it's really good.

>>3365408
>>3365449
Rotate and resize your shit nigger, as far as the work, you are contour drawing, there is very little 3D form in there, it looks really mushy, human body is a hard solid surface, yours doesn't show that, work on the major forms (hips & ribcage) and draw it in space.
>>3365890
Linework is pretty bad, try being more confident, stop giving a fuck if you miss the line, press a bit harder and use fewer lines.
>>3366078
10/10 post, choked on my milk.
>>3365973
Love this, maybe add a little bit of contrast, other than that it's grat.
>>3367404
6KB 244x326 lmao, in all seriousness, this is preferred to 5000x3000 5MB. You need to work on proportions a bit, the torso doesn't look that bad, but the legs are a bit too long, a good exercise is to draw the core of the body only, just draw from chest to upper thighs (like the first drawing I posted) I think it helps you avoid making the thing wonky as you don't care about the entire image, but that's just me.
>>3367452
This is great, love the linework and shading here, it has nice character, proportions are good. gj
>>3367455
The torso legs and face are well placed, but you need to make the arms a bit more believable, maybe add a some thicker lines here and there, otherwise it's really solid.
>>3367474
lmao I kno, that was my first drawing of the day, turned out pretty shit all around desu.
>>3367574
>>3367957
You, me and the majority of intermediate artists m8, there;'s a reason why they are hard. As far as the drawings, the proportions are there, but I think it's a bit too clinical, just let loose and work the gesture more, they look a bit stiff, and the lineweight doesn't help too.

>>3367970
OP again for part 2, This one is amazing, I especially love the first two, this one right here lads is one of the couple posts you would want to reference, construction lines are there, and you can understand how he tried to find the forms, there are a couple posts that are "better" in terms of finish than this, but this one would help people more I think. kudos.
>>3367982
Is that ink? Love the style and everythingi s where it's supposed to be. gj
>>3368186
Let loose more, try drawing with broad strokes/shading/no lines for practice.
>>3368798
That looks really well done, but if you are going to go lineless you need to use more contrast to define things, and maybe be a bit more precise in some areas with the shading.
>>3369282
Don't shade until you can draw with lines only, work on lineweight.
>>3369349
This one is great, thanks for this.
>>3370139
I think maybe her right leg should be shorter bellow the knee to sell the perspective a bit better.
>>3370202
Ain't bad, not a fan of the crosshatching tho.
>>3370226
I actually find men easier, which is why I only posted female refs, want to get better at em, you've drawn the right shoulder really badly, other than that it's pretty solid, fix the shoulder it looks like you have no idea how it works.


Here's my work, male guy was first drawing today, quick warmup, 20 minutes of work each, trying to draw freehand better, so I didn't really measure here.

Let me have it lads.

>>3352422
sorry for the shitty camera quality.

>>3367987
>>3368288
Thank you, anons!

>>3370570
Gosh thanks OP,
Although I'm not sure about being a good reference because my initial strokes always feel like messy scribbles, I'm honestly flattered.

>>3352422
Man, this pose is killer.

Doing a hell of a lot better than when i tried this on Saturday though...

>>3370570
Thanks man! I used a semi-dry copic marker to draw >>3367982 , flat edge markers are great for mark making

>>3370570
Nice sense of perspective, more decisive linework would improve alot but that's more stylistic

>>3356633
Hey guys

>>3369349
>>3365141

>>3373117
>those lines
Fucking nice.

>>3354066
those hips look a bit unfeminine

>>3374179
twas the style at the time

>>3374179
is that the twerk showed up after

>>3365141

>>3356252
>>3356230
you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

>>3356252
>>3356158
you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

>>3369349
somethign is weird in the face,,

late for the first pic but first time posting :^)

>>3375441
You really straightened out her torso and head

Didn't even finish it because it's shit. I always get lazy when working on values and rush it. Fuck.

>>3365141

>>3355820

>>3355820

>>3353709
Tried it out pretty quickly, is shit

>>3355820
>>3377121
Another, feels a little better but still shit

Beginner here

>>3371534
You need to volume/3D forms more, the image looks really flat and the low quality/contrast of the drawing doesn't help.
>>3372655
First of all, it would be nice if you used a more distinct color than cyan, it might be fine on your screen, but not everyone's screen are like yours. Secondly, you need to increase the lineweight substantially and vary it, your proportions aren't that bad, and the lack of noticeable landmarks is worsened by the cut-off, janky uniform lines. I honestly can't even critique the anatomy because I can barely see anything.
>>3372968
You've done well, but I think the drawing would benefit from a bit more confidence, and a bit less curvy lines, the outside lines of both thighs are too curvy and it looks like the leg is made of fat rather than muscle. Otherwise it's good.
>>3373117
>>3373128
This basically, the form/perspective is solid, anatomy too, except maybe the guys bent shin may need a bit of work, but that's almost nitpicking, really great work. This actually helps me thanks.
>>3375183
That's really, really well made, but the outline and maybe some of the shading stiffen up/flatten the pose, but this is stylistic, as far as anatomy that is spot on.
>>3375382
The face isn't that big of an issue, but the legs need to be foreshortened a bit more, the perspective isn't done well, and try lines before you shade.
>>3375441
Glad you chose this as the maiden thread, anatomy-wise the neck is too thin and the head a bit big, and the upper arm looks disjointed, decent showing nonetheless.
>>3375617
Join the club m8, I don't even use values for these kinds of things. you've caught the upper part really well, but the left leg (her left) is really wonky, the perspective is really really difficult so I had to redo it like 15 times.
>>3375644
His chest and the neck area are a bit messy, otherwise the pose is decent, could be a bit taller I think, looks just a tad bit too stocky.
>>3377081
That's really GOOD, can't help here.

>>3377121
That's spot on, you have the gesture nailed, I'm the OP, check out my first attempt, it barely looked human.
>>3377168
This one's a banger too, gj.
>>3378272
You ain't a beginner m8, great work.

PS: I'm going to respond to this thread in the morning to add some rules and a basic >greentext for OP posts so we can have this threads regularly, post any SUGGESTIONS you have in regards to anything you think can improve the thread, make it more fun etc. I'm thinking of adding a very brief list of recommended reading and the lot, so please post suggestions for that too.

Cheers.

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>>3378428
this was a fun thread OP.

>>3378428
Thanks OP, appreciate the encouragement. Hope you keep making these threads!

Im the same guy who drew that >>3365122

ref >>3356633

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>>3352424
So these are 20 min? I really need to know this. I always see really good drawings and wonder how long an artist sit on these.

>>3352987
Your shading is really nice

New pic OP?

>>3378537
I definitely will, going to post a write-up now, tell me what you think.
>>3378580
Define the butt area more, it's a bit messy.
>>3378627
I'm the last one you quoted and it was ~30 min max, can't really say about the other ones but I'm guessing they were all around the mark. It depends on the purpose, if it's a real dedicated study it might take hours, if you continually practice figure drawing it becomes easier as you make shortcuts for things and start to develop your own style, this helps because you know what you're drawing and don't have to focus on every little shape change.
>>3379831
This thread is already at ~300 posts, if anyone wants to post ref/work go ahead, I'll be monitoring the thread for replies to reply to, I usually wait for a couple to gather as not to clutter the thread. As for new pics I am going to post new ones in the new thread which I'll link here, in the meantime tell me what you guys think about the following:

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>Resize and rotate images to a max of about ~1000px max, meaning the other dimension would be smaller.
>Thread is going to be focused on active practice, goal is to LEARN and STUDY, not necessarily for polished pieces, if you finish a full finished work, it is suggested to post WIP alongside it.
>The point of everyone working on the same ref is too find out how other artists solve the same problem, REDLINES are ENCOURAGED even if not asked for, if the person being redlined gets crabby, maybe someone else will have an AHA moment and learn something. I personally don't work digitally, so any redlines will be rudimentary, and frankly I won't be able to do them frequently.
>To mix things up and prevent the thread becoming boring, I suggest switching things up a bit, for instance, I plan on having the next thread be focused more on the figure from the back or side. Cont.

>>3379857
Back/Side images tend to be less represented and I think people aren't that good at them so it would help to challenge ourselves a bit.
>Other idea I had was to have the next thread be an ecorche edition, obviously this is voluntary, but I think people marking the muscles/bony landmarks or even the skeleton underneath would be great for practice firstly, I think this can reinforce anatomy knowledge for the person who drew it, but also for people who view it.
I will personally post an attempt in the next thread.
>I'm thinking of posting recommended reading suggestions, but to have very few of them (3 books max), I currently suggest Hamptons Figure Drawing Book, anyone else that has an idea feel free to post. The idea of having only 3 is in keeping with the general spirit of the thread to learn by DOING, so the less people have to "bikeshed" (wasting energy figuring out what to read and how) will be better.

We can also have dedicated threads for hands/feet etc.

Again, thanks to EVERYONE who posted in the thread, work or critique, everything is welcome.
Cheers,

>>3379857
i think 1000px might be a bit tight nowadays, perhaps just specify a approximate file size like < 1.5mb or something

>>3356633
Tried this one with a very quick and very unfamiliar method. Not pleased with the results, but it was a learning experience.

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>>3379870
OP I love what you've put together here. I would say back/side images would definitely be helpful, as well as hands/feet.

One thing: these plans look great but I'd say on the basic level it might be good to keep it simple/straightforward at the core and have all of these other things as optional so that the thread has a clear and consistent focus.

Thanks again for a great thread OP!

15 min on the clock.
A bit unrelated but what do you guys do to motivate yourself when you stop having fun drawing?

>>3379870
>anyone else that has an idea feel free to post

Steve Huston's Marking Every Mark Count. Good thread OP. Hope it stays a regular thing.

>>3363131
Anyone want to draw this one?

>>3379857
>Define the butt area more, it's a bit messy.
yes papi