/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Working on this

>>3352895
Nice colors

You have a lil of the liefeld face syndrome though

>>3352891
Since you clowns wanna take my back breaking work and paint over my meticulously placed brush strokes, go follow my Instagram. :-) /mourirmourir

>>3352927
Digital art
>back breaking
Lol. Be happy that your piece was chosen as the cover for the thread. Damn.

They should credit and at least post your link for others to follow, tho. This is only fair.
In this case, OP is a cunt for not linking back to artist.

>>3352933
Omg I was actually just playing around and I was actually really flattered.

>>3352933
OP here, I think people who pay attention or care about the draw threads have probably seen the image in the last one. Not everything needs to be spoonfed. We used to take the best artwork out of the old thread, don't know if this unspoken rule still makes the rounds.

In a city nearby me there's this shopping centre. I've been frequenting the place for years and there's an individual that stands out to me everytime I'm there. A tall, slender, beautiful woman, mid-20's, but she's an employee of the centre. Dressed in unflattering baggy clothing, a hi-visi waistcoat, I always see her hauling around bags or rubbish or sweeping the floors, but she has this look on her face like she's constantly thinking about murdering everybody.

She's been there for years now, and it's just so weird to see somebody that looks like her in that kind of work. Anyway I wanted to draw her.

>>3352957
Haha, if you weren't a poorfag artist you could probably marry her.

>>3352957
You shouldn't draw her. You should use your other tool if you know what I mean

>>3352957
ask her out already you faggot

>>3352891
Concept art/character design practice for my sci fantasy ttrpg set in the 71st century galaxy. This is called "Waiting at a Utopian Crosswalk". I'm trying to draw more like Moebius, after a few years of just basically absentmindedly doodling I'm trying to get better. ANything I can work on? I know the poses are stiff but I was just experimenting with design, and I know it;s also crowded but that's the point. I might color it.

>>3352961
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>>3352960
I'm a woman too tho, whew.

Help how do I save this

>>3352957
Oh, the length of her arms aren't proportioned correctly. Why do I only ever notice my errors after I post it to /ic/.

>>3352964
Real life /u/

>>3352972
what do you mean?
I'm liking it so far

pretty stylized

blocky though

>>3352972
Reevaluate your light source. That's the primary issue here.

>>3352895
i like your basis and the colors are lovely. i would suggest hitting the values harder to emphasize the sunlight if thats your main light source (assumption based on the fronds at the top) i.e. put the belly more in shadow and hit the knee with more light

>>3352977
You mean make it more specific?

>>3352956
Still, credit the artist if you are gonna alter their image. It's only right. That itself is an obvious rule.

>>3352964
I'm sorry
ask her out already you dyke

>>3352964
You two should fondle then.

>>3352975
uwu~*>>3352976

But legit she drags around trash for a living and she's still out of my league.

>>3352975 #
uwu~*
But legit she drags around trash for a living and she's still out of my league

>>3352984
I mean I can't really understand where the light is originating. It makes an otherwise cool picture look quite confusing. Are you using a light ref?

Back to continue this piece, with all its glorious mistakes. Don't mind me, I am going to post in order to keep myself motivated.

Had to give my pens their weekly bath...

On to the inking and what not...it is 1:40am...let's see where this goes.

>>3352993
Ohhh ok, I'm using a pic from pose space, but yeah i see what you mean i always go a little too crazy with the light source, thank you.

>>3352972
If you’re planning to render further and want a realistic or painterly look, get some references for the musculature. Also, imply line with changes in value. Your secondary light source should be worked on after rendering

>>3352998
No problem. Aside from the lighting, it really is good. Interesting concept and design.

>>3353000
very niceou

the fongus mushroom thingies make it kinda gross though

change it to some other color than brown

>>3352891
Source on op image?

>>3353000
I like it a lot, the arm petting the dog looks contorted though, like its on backwards.

>>3353010
Read the thread, also /beg/

finished this

>>3353007
Better ?

>>3353026
Her legs look hairy...

>>3353030
Much easier to look at now, gj.

>>3353026
And she has the body of an overweight dad.

>>3353043
>>3353046
Women grow hair on their legs.
You've never done life drawing before have you?

>>3353026
I love the colors but the lighting in the torso qnd upper leg are a bit weird

Study from the women in dresses ref thread~

>>3353043
I know I was thinking that too. I finally changed it, not gonna post the change cause it was like 3 brush strokes

>>3353055
And a burb, wanted to attempt coloring but I'm noooot so sure how I feel about it.

>>3353055
those faces though

>>3353047
Yes, but I have been blessed enough to have models I found attractive, and girlfriends who loved posing for me. They shaved their legs.

>>3353063
why are you using a tripcode

>>3353059
eyes are unappealing

the rest is nice looking

>>3353064
Needs to fulfil his attention quota.

>>3353063
>only draws things he finds beautiful
This is why you're ngmi.

>>3353063
literally nobody cares

ill post the image anyways, is this less hairy? howd I do.

>>3353064
Because I want to.

>>3353067
assuming I haven't already made it, also, implying implications.
The comment was specifically about women. Also, ngmi, really? make it in what? please, enlighten me. How will I not make it or, how do you know I haven't? Also, what was I going for?

C'mon man, think a little before you post that tired meme.

some late night practice , I should do stuff this late it shows that Im not focused

>>3353082
People can filter you with a tripcode. just like I'm going to do

so long attentionwhore, I wont miss you

>>3352997
if this is you >>3353086
you aren't as good as >>3353068
so who gives a shit how hot your models are if you can't even draw them properly. I anxiously await for you to fuck up the face in that watercolor.

>>3353068
Someone cared enough to make it the point of their comment. It's pointless 4chang /b/ickering.

I didn't say it was bad (because, that's subjective since your painting is more abstract than realistic), I just made a comment about the legs. I don't like it because it looks like an Illastrat painting. It's similar in style, and I don't like his style.

>>3353090
>People can filter you with a tripcode. just like I'm going to do

lol bye nobody

>>3353095
jesus... if my painting is abstract wtf is this then >>3352997
look at the values and try telling me this is an abstract painting. Just because you don't know how to paint skin anything other than yellow doesn't mean were all hopeless like you

>>3353093
If you look at the last draw thread, I clearly acknowledged that I fucked up those aspects. But good try.

Also, comparing to different styles for what purpose? I mean, what are you trying to accomplish, a "fight". Or are you thinking that you are going to somehow hurt my feelings? I'm not sure what the purpose of taking sides in this case is. No one here was saying anyone was better than anyone else. So....why are you investing that much emotion into me making a statement about hairy legs and overweight dad body?

Am I wrong? No. I never roasted the artists style once or said his technique or approach was inferior to mine...what are you doing anon?

How do I make this portion more anatomically correct in this pose/angle? the trapezius, neck, deltoid section.

>>3353100
You're mas because I said that yur painting was abstract? lol what?

It definitely isn't realism. Seriously? Would you prefer cartoony? What are you getting upset for, I clearly stated that it was subjective.

My drawing is just that, a drawing, nothing more. It is lines and watercolor on paper.

You wanna discuss values, cool, but has nothing to do with my comment.

>>3353110
you guys said theres a way to filter tripcodes? how do I do that

>>3353116
*mad

>>3353112
Ref ripped dudes doin push ups, should give you the right angle. Also you’ll need to rework the upper pectoral and collarbone as well.

>>3353086
If >>3352997 is your work then I know for a fact you haven't made it and are unlikely do so.

>>3353100
Looks like a fart cloud lol

>>3353100
I would have been more offended because it was compared to Illastrat

Again, you are pointing out mistakes I already know I made. You aren't enlightening me. Go back to the draw thread before this one.

>>3353121
Make it in what anon? Implying we have the same goals. Implying I haven't made it clear that this is practice after 7 years of not illustrating and I know I am rusty.

C'mon duke.

>>3353100
It's obviously not an abstract Anon. Your painting is great, guy you're arguing with is a talentless faggot and everybody in this thread knows he's left the face blank in his watercolour because he doesn't know how to even begin painting it in.

>>3353110
Do you have autism or something? You type the way my bf's autistic older brother speaks.

>>3353130
I know. still annoying whenever some new guy posts his first drawing in 10 years and thinks he's suddenly the king of /ic/.

I never in my life, not as an artist growing up until today and yesterday, experienced such soft artists that take offence to any little criticism.

Your reactionary tantrums are enough to be your biggest obstacle to making it.

If you remain this emotionally unbalanced, you are ngmi if you want to be some sort of professional artist.

Not all of us share the same goal either. Not all of us are trying to make it in the field you desperately want.

Have a seat, calm down, and reevaluate what you are investing all your crabby emotions into...lines and paint on paper...I mean, seriously.

You guys would have never survived the classes at Cooper Union back in the day. Those teachers would have eaten you alive in front of everyone with their critique. But you new generation, soft as baby powder.

>>3353138
Holy shit this is definitely autism.

>>3353135
>Do you have autism or something?
This makes absolutely no sense to anyone but you.

>You type the way my bf's autistic older brother speaks.
You react like a toddler so...I mean, really, reread what you typed and ask yourself: what am I trying to accomplish going fully off topic and making blatantly inane commentary on an anons writing on /ic/?

Has nothing to do with anything...

>>3353140
Forget coming close, truth hit your home huh?

>>3353126
this isn't someone you murdered is it?

>>3353142
What truth lol, you haven't even commented on my work in this thread yet.
And you absolutely sound autistic. Google what "asperger's arrogance" is, because you are dripping with it right now m8.

>>3353140
The only one with autism here is you and whoever uses this term incorrectly:

>A person with an ASD typically has difficulty with social and communication skills

Ya'll lack this creatively and obviously, in these comments...look at all your inability to handle any sort of criticism. So you lash out, anonymously, hiding who you are....that is the definition of autism.

This is why i use the trip code. At the very least, I take one layer away from that comfort zone. If I wanted to, I would just use my name and site but, why would I do that...well, I kinda already did, but that probably went over your head like the content of the last thread.

>>3353148
>this isn't someone you murdered is it?
lol what?

>>3353150
>asperger's arrogance
Lol arrogant? In what way? Did I flaunt myself around calling myself the greatest. Did I shit on anyone elses artwork in here? No. I simply stated an observation and opinion, and then responded to the comments that flowed right after.

I mean, you are just throwing these words around and will continue to do so because you really have nothing else to say. You attack my character but not my statements...what do you call that again?

>you haven't even commented on my work in this thread yet.
Which one is yours, and if I haven't commented on it, why are you getting all worked up?

Link it, don't make some lame excuse, if you are gonna talk like a goof. Again, why i'm tripfagging, in order not to be like you right now.

>because you are dripping with it right now m8.
Coming from the anon dishing out insults without reason? Don't you find your own statements sort of contradictory?

>>3353151
Link to last thread pls. I want to see more work so I can get a giggle out of the crusty 50-y/o fat fetishist with the obese Mexican side-ho.

>>3353158
>Crusty 50 y/o fat fetishist with the obese mexican side-ho

Wow, anon. You're mad gay.

Here's the last thread:
>>3347270

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Giggle away.

>>3353158
To be more specific
I uploaded

brunoganz.jpg
rabia.jpg
enlaolla.jpg

ALSO this is my comment
>I focus on abstract art now almost exclusively, but I need to rebuild a technical portfolio for reasons.

>>3353151
if you want to be a dumb namefag go to the anime thread, leave the people trying to post good out of your autism

>>3353130
I left the face blank because I messed up the color, and the heads proportions, crabby patty.

>>3353137
>new guy
lol

>king of /ic/
? I'm an artist, commenting on other art. Why are you all such cry babies?

>>3353175
MODS!

>>3353172
Lol shut up.

>Anime

Where do you see that I posted ANY anime art? I am not a fan of it.

>>3353168
Is this from Gummo?

Good shading. The overall drawing looks tight, wonder how it will come out.

>>3353156
Your complete overreaction to what is very obvious bait and your inclination towards peppering your replies with personal details of your real life that nobody gives a fuck about is what makes you sound like a sperg.

>muh Cooper Union

Remember when you were 7, that day Doctor Bridges left and your ma', bless her immortal soul, sat you down on the edge of the sofa and gave you that very important talk? You'd sat there wringing your chubby little hands together all jangles and nerves because you were afraid she was about to tell you that she'd gone done spied up on you trying to beckon ol' Fido's hot-diggity-dog into your stench trench last Tuesday (of course you were just "at that age", and "curious"). Imagine your adolescent delight when actually the words she imparted to you were what set you on your present course for life. A magical expedition into a world of magic and colour and delight! Where you could BE anyone and CREATE anything! The world of ART!

Well I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news son, but I have to inform you. That day you misheard her when she said "Son I'm afraid you're artistic". What she really said was "Son I'm afraid you're autistic".

>>3353186
You really are going off on several tangents.

>>3353168

>>3353186
lul

>>3353186
>Cooper Union
it must be convenient cherry picking a detail of the point of my statement to try and flip it into something about revealing anything. All the while, the point went over your head.

But being this comfortable, you have to lie to yourself, even if the comments can be read publicly, and, you remain in the shadows of anonymity, so in the end, your words hold no weight, like your lack of personality, identity and art.

This is why you have to sit down and invest time in writing your little "bait" story to justify your point....I took obvious bait.

You are not clever. Stop.

I mean, in the end, you still have to be that anon who did all of that, and you know who you are. A true autist in denial projecting passionately on /ic/.

Jesus christ what is going on in this thread?

Also when do I graduate from /alt/ to be able to post here?

>>3353202
'Artists' can't handle the slightest opinion or criticism, tread the thread carefully.

>>3353202
Post whatever you have.
Let's see it.

>>3353202
I think at this point these threads are pretty much a free-for-all. Come, join the party.

>>3353205
>says the guy typing out novellas to every negative post pointed in his direction l m a o

>>3352956
>the best artwork out


the best artwork is some shitty traced colored portrait? Okay

>>3353206
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>>3353129
filtered, if I could press a button to kill you I would

>>3353209
>says the guy typing out novellas to every negative post pointed in his direction l m a o

Hell yea, why not?

Also, no one really criticized my work constructively. Instead it was a barrage of weird personal attacks from anons or an anon, after a comment on one painting in here......why the artist got upset that I said their work is abstract is still beyond me.

The comments are there as public record, and it's clear what was said...so, yea...why not respond?

I never had to use a trip filter until now.

some more progress on this
thanks to the two lads who gave me some advice on the last thread!

>>3353214
lol, homo

>>3353217
I don't know why this post made me emotional

>>3353168
Movie 4 pedoz

>>3352997
Lol this is the absolute skill level of a crab

>>3353226
you keep telling yourself that

>this is the absolute skill level of a crab
Sounds like the comment of a crab, the irony.

Post your drawi- nevermind, you aren't an artist, otherwise this would be a different discussion.

>>3353226
I didn't think it could get much worse, but he posted this in the previous thread.
Dude talks like he's some seasoned veteran artist but he's below even Tom Preston.

>>3353230
How do we know this isn't just Dobson's alter ego? And I'm not talking about the blue bear.

>>3353218
I think the biggest issue is the sharp white lines

Like you oiled the pic and put it trough the sharpening filter, the white strokes are just too sharp like the ones in the hair and give it this weird over detailed vibe

the rest of your background doesn't have that so is likely why is feels like is not there

>>3353230
I did that when I was 18. That shit is old.
Also, I never claimed to be better than anyone, nor did I put anyone's work down, cuz, I ain't a crab.

Also, it was used as an album cover, so, technically speaking, it got out there. Please, critique it properly.

>>3353234
>I didn't call anyone bad
>You're all bad
what did he mean by this?

>>3353236
When did I say
>you're all bad?

>>3353238
I drew this chair today. it's better than anything you've ever made. and I know you're gonna say "WHEN DID I SAY I WAS GOOD DUUUUURRRRRR"

but I am telling you tripcode guy, unwarranted, and not in need of a response, that I AM BETTER THAN YOU. I DO NOT CARE that you don't claim to be good or whatever the fuck, I am just stating as fact, that I am a better artist than you.

>>3353236
I mean, I am tripfagging for a reason so I am somewhat owning up to my own words. It should be easy to find all the things I said that got anons feelings hurt.

Anyway, prove me wrong, or show me your superior skills with your art work. Don't just blablabla...this is a draw thread. I wanna see drawings.

Oh boy, here we go.

>>3353249
I took the bait but mods gonna ban him by tomorrow so fuck it.

>>3353245
ok? This doesn't tell me anything.

>>3353234
>Also, I never claimed to be better than anyone, nor did I put anyone's work

A little while earlier...

>you new generation, soft as baby powder
>sounds like the comment of a crab, the irony
>post your drawi- nevermind, you aren't an artist
>like your lack of personality, identity and art
>lol, homos

>>3353252
thanks for holding this draw thread hostage so we'll have to wait for you to get banned before we can start a new one. You sure showed those youngsters on the internet today, old man.

>>3353234
>I ain’t a crab
>repeatedly says “post your work”
>can’t accept criticism
>posts essays of meaningless babble without any meaningful advice or critique

Congrats on ruining this drawthread tho

>>3353253

>you new generation, soft as baby powder
For being so reactionary and emotional over an opinion and criticism of art
>sounds like the comment of a crab, the irony
I was stating a fact, please, read in context
>post your drawi- nevermind, you aren't an artist
If they were, I stated the direction the discussion would go in. It would be constructive, not this back and forth
>like your lack of personality, identity and art
Yes, anonymous blabbering on my personality. An anon that has neither of those things in this thread. And it was implying the tricode
>lol, homos
Yea, "filtering" is mad gay.

I never claimed to be a better artist nor did I put down anyones work, you are citing example out of context. I was clearly talking about art.

>>3353254
Lol

>>3353202
On second thought, I think I'll stay in /alt/.

>>3353256
Yea, what's wrong with requesting work from anonymous hecklers? I posted mine.

It was critiqued yesterday. I wasn't even mad tho. How can there be meaningful advice or critique when you have a bunch of anons shitposting. I was merely responding.

You ruined the draw thread by not posting your work or linking to it so we can actually discuss it constructively, you also ruined it by not critiquing and constructively criticizing my drawing in progress. So, what's it going to be? You guys are going to continue bitching and moaning, or are we going to get back to talking about drawing and trying to improve?

>>3353257
nice looking apple

>>3353259
>an anon that has neither of those things in this thread
I've already posted muh werk in the thread, I posted even before you did. I'm just not interested in your critique because you have nothing you can teach me.

>>3352891
keep on stealing all my ideas woooorrrlllddddd.

I actually like it a lot. It's very flattering and really cool to see my works influencing others.

>>3352895
I unironically love this. Saved.

>>3352972
>>3352962
>>3352957
>>3352895

You know, one of these is yours, unless it's the OP's image.

>>3353274
Yup.

>>3352891
How will I know when I have graduated from the beginner thread and am able to post in draw threads?

>>3352933
>thinking someone really considered adding two words of text to an already-present word bubble to be 'painting over'
It couldn't be any more obvious that anon was kidding.

>>3353277
Was having this dilemma yesterday. Just take your best guess, if you're in the wrong one someone will probably say something (although, if you're intermediate there is still a chance you will get useful advice from /beg/ since some generous and skilled artists give it a look out of interest.)

>>3353277
When the people in /beg/ tell you to get out. Or when you stop getting replies.

>>3353269
>you have nothing you can teach me
Probably not, none of the prior drawings (mine included) really have any substance. It's just lines on paper. Mostly unfinished half-assed ideas.

But I didn't come here to teach because I myself need practice. And whoever posted those, and you also need mad practice.

As for a critique, I'll give it anyway.

>>3352895
What is the flower girl for? Is it part of a larger project? Is it about the character, or the technique used to illustrate? Doesn't look like rob liefields work at all. The colors are nice tho, but, what is the point of the flower girl? Was she drawn for the sake of drawing a character, is she a real person? Is there any depth to her?

>>3352957
Is this supposed to be the crazy bag lady? Or is this drawing something else? What is it besides the obvious?

>>3352962
This is pretty straight forward. Video game concept art. One thing the artist can work on is not making one page so chaotic, and giving space to each concept in order to develop it (since I am going by this one piece). If it was purposely drawn to be crowded, I wonder how it will look when it's done. I want to know what the story is about, maybe it will give sense to the chaos.

>>3352972
What is it?

>>3353290
beg is unironically not a good indicator of taste or skill perception

>>3352891
>all this digital art

I feel out of place

anyway these are some drawings I do. These are recurring characters in my autistic world.

>>3353291
The fact that you believe art has to "be" something demonstrates your immaturity as an artist. Subject matter is entirely irrelevant, the only thing that matters is perspective, form, value, light, colour and technique.

As expected, I have so much to learn but you have nothing to teach me.

>>3353046
>>3353063
not useful or in the proper spirit of this thread, man. the point of life drawing is to grow your skills, including to people and characters that don't make your weiner hard

>>3353303
You might be better off in the stylized art thread. Or possibly /beg/. It's really hard to see your work, also. Even without a scanner, there's probably some free programs which can help you increase the sharpness and contrast of your images.

>>3353311
ok thank you!

>>3353303
Don't feel out of place. Almost every digital artist were traditional artists that just graduated into digital. You may well do yourself in the future, but in the mean time I still appreciate seeing trad work

wat am i doing wrong

pluck pluck plucking away

>>3353386

Absolutely awesome work man. Bet you're the guy who was doing the animal->girl transformation image a couple of weeks ago(?). Really wish we could see the final result. You're one of my favorite artists dude/dudette!

I prefer the piece flipped like this. I get you're going for a disoriented look but somehow the original was a kind of hard to look at. I also feel like you'd lead the eye to the character better like this. In your version my eye kind of slips off the page to the bottom right.

>>3353386
ruck n pruck

>>3353055
Captures the gossipy vibe very well, wd

>>3353098
>nobody
could say the same about yourself

>>3353393
different anon, I agree, something about the original orientation really makes it counterintuitive to focus my eyes on the character (the natural place to settle is the bag of swords below them, for me). Yours is a lot better and there may potentially be a still better one ...also one where the character doesn't end up upside down lol.

I played with it for a little rotating it to between 45-90deg clockwise to see how it was and a 60deg rotation looked kind of nice but i am not the best at this stuff.

i used a certain site functionality to call attention to a nuisance, i hope their ceasing was thanks to that.

>>3353416
Thank you anon. Now let's get back to shitposting.

>>3353386
>>3353393
Another anon here, I think the original comp is better. It's confusing at first because it takes up more space than my monitor, but when you pop it into a new tab and look at the image as a whole, it looks perfect.

I find the second image truly confusing, because the figure is upsidedown, and just looks like it's lying on the ground with its back up against the wall.

Open the two images in new tabs and tell me I'm wrong.

However, perhaps just turn it a little to the right, eliminating the whole dutch angle thing, so that the verticals are vertical. I sorta suspect you tried all this shit already.

>>3353454

I'm >>3353393

I agreet that what I did wasn't perfect either. I think something in between would work. I'm sure they'll figure it out though. Looks really promising.

>>3353410

Weird. You guys have some really similar styles. your stuff makes sense. Maybe you just turn it counter clockwise a little bit. I don't think it's a terribly bad idea to lose the tips of those swords. They're kind of hugging the edge and it looks like "I had to crop here because these swords are here". Feels less like a choice... What do I know. As long as the face is on some thirds I think it'll work either way.

so very tired...

>>3353470
Same haha

>>3352895

>>3353000
thats not how the body works firez

>>3353469
Nawwwww, still looks like he's lying on a floor. Not even close.

I love how one of the best artists on the board gets all the crits, while the people who actually need crits get starved. Funny, but unfortunate.

>>3353493

I dunno man. I don't want to crit beginners unless there's a single flaw that can be pointed out quickly or if there are things that can be fixed in an over painting in <10 minutes. Only thing I could say to a lot of the people here is "draw more", "Study more anatomy" or "Shut up and read the fucking sticky" etc.

>>3353493
Because the ones who need crit are NGMI, duh. Only good artists have a chance of making it.

>>3353501
Eh, I get what you mean, but I think he's just referring to most artists in this thread who could use a couple pointers.

>>3353501
>>3353503
My theory is that people see a good artwork and want to feel like they are a part of it, like they contributed somehow.

>>3353509
I hope that's not the case, but that actually doesn't sound too far fetched.

A little preparatory study for an illustration. It's Brezhnev and someone else, I forget.

>>3353493
Well, "all the crits" in this case is just a lot of input on one easy-to-give-input-on element (rotating the canvas.) This wouldn't be true were multiple elements that needed major work which ppl had to suggest exercises for or redline or otherwise analyze, which is what we would need to do for a beginner artist. It's just easier!

That's why I really appreciate and try to commend people who give those long and valuable critiques on more intermediate pieces (and try to be them sometimes if I feel able.)

>>3353509
>>3353512
Nah that's a bit too cynical.
It's sort of easier to give crits to really good pieces because they need less work instead of five paragraphs of explanation and a redline. Like a minor and easily correctable anatomy oversight. or some input on color choices. Or literally turning the damn thing a bit sideways in this case lmao

>>3353515
Darn, thought it was just a heartwarming drawing of two old men who had found love, not some polshit.

>>3353515
I was hoping you were making rule 34 of RLM Pre-Rec with Jack and Rich.

>>3353000
The torso looks like it's a bit detached from the waist. Try either lowering the upper body or raising the lower body

>>3353509
>>3353522
>>3353516

Yeah. I'll just do an over painting if I think something has a lot of problems as long as I think I can fix the issues in about ten minutes. I won't over paint something if I feel like I'd need to do the entire piece from the start which is the case with a lot of stuff that gets posted here.

I don't ever really feel like I'd be "part of it" when I'm critting someone who's at an advanced level. That'd be fucking delusional. It's mostly just stuff that the person would have possibly figured out themselves if they just slept on it. It's also more interesting to hear what some good artists tell you about their choices when you crit them. You can learn some shit that way too...

>>3353528
It's not polshit, it's based on an actual photo of Brezhnev and some other politician kissing (yes, they happen to be socialists, like I give a shit). The illustration I'm doing has two old men kissing, so this is how I prepare.

>>3353529
Haha, I have no idea what you're referring to.

>>3353536
I'm sorry, that was pretty rude of me to assume, I googled the guy's name and saw he was a communist politician so I assumed it was a political cartoon. It's a good drawing.

>>3353515
It's Honecker. The beloved caretaker of the GDR.

abstract art is the best

>>3353560
friendly reminder to never respond to this person's stuff, you will only be met with disappointment.

>>3353560
chunbum you silly willy

>>3353562
what are you talking about?

>>3353565
i am not silly you hilly billy

I am a tiger. rawr

>>3352895
>>3352957
Looks great, good job to both of you.
Any blog/artstation?

i made thsi

Sorry for this not being a screenshot

>>3353386
you really need to develop a style man.
your work is good but so fucking boring man, hate to say it but it's so damn bland and has no appeal other than being well rendered and not having many mistakes in them.
Also many of your comps have way too much shit going on in them, this is a prime example.

just a quick sketch tonight. did an enviro too but it was even worse than this lol

Put in a few more minutes yesterday and added something in the back.

>>3352920
Never heard of him but now I see it. The face was subject to work anyway.

>>3352980
Thanks anon, I was planning to inforce that more somehow but couldn't work it out yet. That was helpful

>>3353273
Thanks anon

>>3353291
She doesn't really have a point. I sketched girls and this one stood out to me so I decided to work on it. It's just a girl strolling and collecting herbs in the sun. She probably has character and concerns but who the fuck cares

>>3353478
Yes

>>3353586
Thanks anon
Main page is here: https://exitmothership.deviantart.com/
I also got an insta where I post wips and sketches

>>3352920
What do you mean by Liefeld face?

>>3353637
I wouldn't worry about the Liefeld thingy.His problem is that he paste that dumb face onto everything no matter of context. But yours, from the pov looks pretty natural, so don't bash your skull over it.

>>3353068
sup brian

but a sketch.

>>3353607
looks like he has a big thigh gap

>>3353515

somohex?

>>3353100
la creatura.....

Rough sketches are funny

>>3353800
no funny >:(

Just did these. Pretty rough I know - tell me what to improve

1/2

>>3353825
2/2

>>3353827
>>3353825
don't be a slave to your refs

>>3353827
arm is too pink. asian arms usually have a kind of yellowy undercurrent.

>>3353291
>This is pretty straight forward. Video game concept art. One thing the artist can work on is not making one page so chaotic, and giving space to each concept in order to develop it (since I am going by this one piece). If it was purposely drawn to be crowded, I wonder how it will look when it's done. I want to know what the story is about, maybe it will give sense to the chaos.

It was drawn to be crowded, the name of the piece is "Waiting at a Utopian Crosswalk". When I do proper character concepts they'll either be standalone or in a lineup. I'll probably color this piece too.

>>3353596
What is she doing? Triumphantly raising her sword? She looks pretty unmotivated.
Her torso is like a relaxed, bendy noodle. And why is her other shoulder raised? She looks like she's shrugging.
Close your eyes and imagine someone triumphantly raising their weapon and looking back.
Redraw the pose, make it more dynamic.
Look at some references and start with the action, make it the center of the process.

>>3353562
Thanks for the warning.

>>3353233
u ruined it lmfao

i did this shit yesterday , any thoughts ?

>>3353305
I never said art had to be 'something'.
I clearly said that it's
>just lines on paper

I asked the other artists why they did their art. The drawings that were posted before mine were not realism, therefore how can you expect to determine perspective, form, value, light, colour and technique from imagination. I can possibly understand perspective but those drawings, including my own are mere sketches. I don't know if there were references to the prior drawings to actually draw a comparison to determine these values.

>I have so much to learn but you have nothing to teach me.
Lol ok

>>3353307
>not useful or in the proper spirit of this thread, man.
True
>the point of life drawing is to grow your skills, including to people and characters that don't make your weiner hard
I'm sure this opinion differs among artists

>>3353401
I never said I was a nobody. Although, itt, you know it's me by the tripfagging.

>>3353637
I dunno. I care. I mean, you are drawing a character, it would be nice to get a story for this moment in her life where she has been captured and immortalized from the life she lived in your mind. It would make your work more interesting. Some sort of connection between you and her.

>>3353848
I would actually like to see this after the lines are defined and divided with color.

>>3353988
pretty rad

are there mods or janitors on /ic/? because jesus christ

>>3353919
Thenks

>>3353586
>artstation
You really think I'm good enough to have one? I've thought about making one, but the quality of the work submitted there is so high, I didn't feel like I worthy enough. I also mainly do character illustrations, though I'd like to start expanding further into painterly environments.

>>3353705
for you

here

revised

>>3354062
yeah you're good
is that what you wanted to hear? Now go make an artstation and stop letting your ego interfere with your career

>>3354167
Stop showing your bad taste

>>3354167
I really needed to hear this, thanks Anon.
I'll go make one and post it here ;__;

>>3354184
DON'T TAKE THIS AWAY FROM ME

>>3354167
Anon! Am I good enough?

>>3353515

>>3353827
that is not the face of lust but of disspointment

>>3354062
>>3354167
>>3354187
More suited for tumblr imo. Not that it’s bad, but just highly stylized. Unless you have a diverse portfolio, I wouldn’t recommend getting an artstation just yet.

from today

>>3352927
Follow me back ;_;

>>3354223
Yeah, it is very stylised which has its positives and its negatives. I certainly need to get back to basics since I skipped over them in favour of "the fun" stuff in my teens and am regretting it now in my 20's. Here's another WIP I've been working on, haven't touched in a few weeks though.

>>3352972
woah, everyone missed the point on this one...
just put the head slightly more to the left (look at the plane of the bottom of the jaw)

Just some exercises from vilppu. Tell me if I’m missing something.

>>3349374
Sorry for repeating others but you should study proportions and measurements first. Although considering that this is animu you might want to get an animu example of the face rather then real life one.

Then consider studying anatomy on at least superficial level so you won't miss some pretty obvious and large body parts like pectoralis major or trapezius. Proko has fairly short videos on the subject but there are plenty more out there, like Vilppu and others.

Also consider studying perspective to a point where you can free hand simple 3d objects from any angle and combine them, even if it looks crappy and jittery. Nothing too big - boxes, cylinders, boxes with holes in shapes of cylinders, that sort of thing.

>>3352096
>>3352101
Didn't read much, but that material looks cheesy as fuck at a glance. Like one of those countless 1 page tutorials with questionable source for information. While it covers quite a lot in condensed manner it also leaves out stuff like bones of the skeleton, which can be kinda a big deal when you want to study anatomy since bones largely define the range of motion of human body and understanding where the muscles attach also helps with understanding where those muscles will be in a any given position. I wouldn't recommend using this as your only source of information.

As for the drawings themselves - the arms don't attach to the torso like a pair of noodles. Look at pic related and the character in the centre of your picture. See the difference in how the arms attach to the torso? It kinda lacks pectoralis there, no? While drawing from imagination is commendable do consider drawing from models and use reference of the subject that you study. Also it is hard to tell what the hell is going on with the surface that the feet and palms are standing on. If you want to draw a figure in 3 dimensional space try to draw a manikin\stick figure first, then draw the rest. It is much easier to map the ground with simplified subject.

Maybe I should go better to /gd/, but whatever. Here is the final choice. I'm gonna send this tomorrow, so I'm open for suggestions since

>>3352891
Can someone correct proportions? Or is it gesture/perspective that I messed up....

>>3353979
care to go on detail?

I'm still thinking whats wrong about op post so it would be very helpful

or are you just shitting up the thread like in the porn general

>>3354253
looking good

Finished this up yesterday. Tried to figure out my new watercolour markers. But I certainly have more figuring to do.

>>3353112
look up what the other anon said, reference of athletic males in a similar position. also might want to check out the omohyoideus and platysma. study more neck muscle anatomy and shapes.

>>3354237
that's pretty nice

>>3353923
Be more ballsy with your values, way too flat currently

>>3354299
it looks like he shat his diaper

>>3354299
google image "bear standing" and then draw your future bears with much shorter legs

>>3354374
Not him but I have similar issues. How to get more dramatic value range?

1/2

>>3354403
>7 fingers

>>3354403
2/2

>>3354407
That's kinda unfunny and badly drawn.

I like the comparison of "soyboy" being just a variation of asshole or motherfucker, just an insult. If you replace soyboi with asshole you can see is not very funny.

Second thing is that your 3/4 view and stiff characters tell me you don't have fundies.

Study construction, gesture etc then anime:
Loomis fun with a pencil: https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Andrew%20Loomis%20-%20Fun%20WIth%20a%20Pencil.pdf
Vilppu figure drawing: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=6412691F1ADCABDF0781B910F68DB2DE

If you want punchlines in your comics then browse the draw threads, there are anons with very funny ideas there.

Trying to draw some biomechanical, so far is looking like shit.

>>3354422
It's more of an inside joke I had between me and a friend. I didn't really except anyone else to find it funny, I just wanted opinions on the drawings. Thanks for the advice on improving the poses though. I'll go look at the figure drawing book.

In work

I’m not satisfied
I did it under pressure, and 2 hours from gesture study to this. I won’t explain why I was under pressure to finish It
I noticed It was not my best attempt thou

This is another one I did if you want to judge

>>3354253
P

>>3354436
yeah the pdfis kinda fugged up though, some PDF readers cant open it and some of the pages are upside down but the scans are high quality.

just cntrl + alt + ↓

>>3354447
>that head

>>3354459
Sniff.... you are gonna make cry dude

>>3354447
>>3354403
...at this point I have no idea when or how people decide they're ready to post here and not /beg/

>>3354466
Post your work you pussy.

>>3354466
What you mean?

Am I belong to beg?
I curious because if I draw real bodies I do good, but if I try anime not. Specially the head
Ant post anime on beg thou

>>3354459

>>3354466

I’m triggered, what you both don’t know if I, not angry, I’m exited.
I’m gonna post a good drawing, same concept. Prepare your asses this weekend. I will have enough time.
You don’t know what I’m available to do.

Trying to draw a half-orc for my dnd campaign, this is my first drawing in around 10 months and I still havent learned how to shade/render

>>3354478


Looking good. Use different brushes when doing the hair, right know it looks like spaghetti

>>3354403
ahhahahahaa, i cant stop laughing

>>3354471
I post on /beg/, that's the point! And look at the kind of work that still belongs there and receives useful input:
>>3353651
>>3354417
>>3353547
>>3354318
This is all nearing-intermediate-level art but it's still receiving useful input there and is likely to only be responded to here with memes, derision or silence because of reasons similar to
>>3353535 this discussion.
I wasn't even trying to be insulting really, just calling a spade a spade. This thread is mostly for intermediate-to-advanced level. If you're going to get more input on /beg/ then why not post there?

Maybe we do need an /int/ thread.

>>3354447
>>3354424
>>3354407
>>3354403
>>>/beg/
>>3354466
Look at /beg/ and if your quality of work is worse than what’s being posted there, you belong there

>>3354472
did you draw >>3354447? even anime head aside, your proportions areway off. and stop leaving your drawings without hands or feet for gods sake. overall: go do figure studies and exercises.

If you drew the other one, holy fuck that kid has seven fingers so i don't fucking know about "I draw real bodies I do good", buddy.

>>3354514
(I'm the last anon you responded to) Don't worry, I know where I personally belong which is still /beg/, just commenting on this recent trend of people prematurely jumping over here.

>>3354503
Nah, an /int/ thread would just give people more ways to tell other people they're in the wrong thread, make people argue more about what belongs in what tier, and it would sort of turn the draw thread into a /good/ thread by implication. I've always seen the draw thread as including everyone, while the beg thread should just disclude people who are decent and won't get crits there.

Perhaps we should just have a /shit/ thread and the drawthread becomes /beg/ :D

>>3354522
>it would sort of turn the draw thread into a /good/ thread by implication.
It already is.

Meh, this discussion isn't going anywhere...my personal adv: if you think someone's work doesn't belong, ignore the post, and give crit to works of the skill level you're comfortable critting. Someone who gets ignored here will hopefully figure out they need to work on fundamentals and go read the links on the beginner thread.

>>3354522
Yeah for what it's worth anytime I've posted in /beg/ they flame me the same way the draw thread does and tell me to come back here. /beg/ exists for a reason

>>3354480
Which brushes should I try using?

hows this

fwiw I think a lot of you posting recently do belong in /beg/, mostly because the resources in the top posts are what you need more than individual crit on pieces, but...you're here, so...

>>3354424
The light source for the tube seems to be lower left, but the light source for the face seems to be upper left.
Tube itself looks extremely simple and cartoony while the face looks like "children's cartoon" was NOT your desired aesthetic; study some photos of cylinders/shapes in general) to improve this. Maybe watch some tutorials on how to color metallic surfaces too, somebody linked good ones in the last thread.
The colors of your piece are muddy and unappealing.

>>3354447
Head too small, breasts look weightless and bolted on, and the pose itself lacks natural motion and gesture. You've also done yourself a disservice by not ven trying to draw the hands and feet - how else will you learn, anon?
Do some studies and gesture drawings from various reference images of women walking in order to more naturally depict it. Gesture in particular will benefit you. Also review anatomy as much as possible, and focus on the parts that scare you, like hands and feet seem to!

>>3354478
>shapeless nose
>featureless nasolabial area
>far eye at the wrong angle
>hair is mass of individual lines instead of overall shapes
I think you should do some studies of faces/heads before drawing your chara again. Maybe find one you like of an actor or someone else who can be seen from multiple angles and learn how to draw different features (eyes in particular, and how they look from different angles) and sketch for a bit. As you do so, get used to defining the head through shapes of shadow and not-shadow, rather than lines as you are doing now. Maybe read up on skulls and facial muscles as well and then try to add them "under" an existing drawing to "check your work".
>not drawing for 10mos
Also don't do that.

>>3354534
Which one? If you want a simple response like the ones above link me.

>>3353026
She looks like danny devito

I had some free time so i started painting a bit of the face


>>3354514
> >>>/beg/

That's mean :(

>>3354544
> The light source for the tube seems to be lower left, but the light source for the face seems to be upper left.

Yes, you are right. This is my second attempt at digital painting, but i've realized that i almost know nothing about the fundamentals (Shadow, color, composition, etc.) since when i used to draw a couple of years ago i mostly did portraits of people/animals. Shadows/light source is something i struggle with, any tutorial to recommend me?

> Tube itself looks extremely simple and cartoony while the face looks like "children's cartoon" was NOT your desired aesthetic; study some photos of cylinders/shapes in general) to improve this. Maybe watch some tutorials on how to color metallic surfaces too, somebody linked good ones in the last thread.

Yes, that was a fast sketch. I don't want it to look cartoony. I will follow your advice and check some tutorials on how to collor metal


> The colors of your piece are muddy and unappealing.

Yes, i didn't like it neither, i think i will just copy the color palette of some HR giger painting

Thanks for your advice.

>>3353168
Nice recognized it right away from gummo.
>>3354253
Pretty sweet, can tell that you are learning from Villpu,

>>3353026
Looks nice but this Anon >>3353049
is correct, mid area looks off,the values are to bright. Also the area around the left foot looks to bright.

>>3353059
Very nice line work and dynamic coloring/shading around the eye. pastel background colors are a little faggy for my taste, and this anon is right >>3353065 the eyes are a little weirds, looks like the eye lids has no depth to it.
>>3353515
WTf dude? Like the line work,simple abstarct massing/hatching works well.
>>3354216
kek

>>3352972
ctrl+s

>>3354201
idk that I haven't seen your work
but If you think you're good, gullible people will think the same
so yeah let's say you're great

>>3354672
kek

>>3354660
alright hows this, did more to this

>>3354692
different anon here, it looks much better! form seems much more harmonious now to me

>>3354702
she was more attractive than i had her painted before, which is something I try to retain in my paintings. Doesn't really matter to me if it looks exactly like the person but I have to be as attracted to the painting as I was to the model.

>>3354692
nice colour choices here brian, but your work seems to be having a correlation towards cartoons sometimes, just a feeling they give off, i think you really need to steer your ship the opposite way, look at your edges, some places you use a dark value line that just is not needed,

>>3354726
>but your work seems to be having a correlation towards cartoons sometimes
what better direction for fine arts to go in than that?

>>3354692
Light on her left thigh doesn’t make sense to me and the secondary lighting is almost the same direction from primary.

>>3354755
seemed like it was best for the composition, and the color is so nice that I'm not gonna paint over it cause it'd be impossible to mix exactly again. That color is honestly to me the most important part of this painting. If I get rid of it this whole painting will lose interest, and the focal point will be something less interesting.

>>3354692
>>3354763
learn when to stop working on a painting
it looks nice, leave it
the next one will be better anyway

>>3354402
Holy shit are you this anon?

>>3354407
this is a really big guess but, do you play roblox?

I finished this. The main difference is that I ditched some of the dutch angle as someone pointed out

>>3354870
pretty nice

is it for a game or something?

>>3353059
It's spelled "BIRB" you dumbo

>>3354870
The swords in the whitespace are a good addition, too. Do you have a portfolio somewhere?

>>3353386
Love this, one of those 'wow I wish I'd come up with that' compositions/feelings. Maybe darken her eyeballs a little (even if they're glowing, they look a little flat as is imo, and it's the first thing I was drawn to)

>>3354753
you are leaning towards kitsch with it, not fine arts.

>>3354923
Strongly disagree, the lines aren't an obnoxious stylization at all and your dislike for them is a taste thing.
In fact, wait, are you the person from earlier who was being a dick to people based on totally objective things? They were tripfagging, though...but you sound like them. Unhelpful.

>>3354923
Strongly disagree, the lines aren't an obnoxious stylization at all and your dislike for them is a taste thing.
In fact, wait, are you the person from earlier who was being a dick to people based on totally subjective things? They were tripfagging, though...but you sound like them (unhelpful opinions rther than crit) so maybe they dropped the trip.

>>3352957
How do you get such long, smooth lines?

Obviously talent but also do you zoom out for longer lines or do really quick strokes or what?

turned my study into an edgy pic

>>3355006
swore it was attached

>>3354391
I'd recommend taking pictures of real life and turning them into b&w and look at the value range happening.
Another thing you could do for a while is for every painting you make, have one main inspo painting in b&w from a really good artist and just look at the value range he has going on in his piece and more or less copy it over.
Also I suggest you start painting from life in b&w, takes longer than only analyzing a b&w photo but you learn a lot more with the addition of gaining mileage.
Over time you'll just know intuitively what values you need and where, keep at it anon.

>>3355007
there ought to be debris in the background

>>3354447
Excuse me for indulging, but imma vandalise it a lil bit. I really like that blend of soft shadows and hatching, reminds me of metal gear solid art, but damn me if I ever manage to replicate it.

>>3354930
this is my 3rd post in like, 3 days m8.

>>3354930
and i still maintain that he is leaning more towards kitsch with his choices.
i also did provide some critt with my opinion, btw.

Armature here, this my tenth attempt drawing.

>>3352891

I'm working on character design of a meat shield human servant of an awol alien scientist, defending his base of operation from locals. Did I manage to communicate it in the drawing? I like the contrast of the upper and lower halves but I'm not sure if it works together.

>>3355297
What's going on with its stomach? Is that an arrow sticking out of it?

Otherwise it's pretty good.

>>3355339
yeah, a couple arrows. Trying to push the idea of sturdiness, zombiefiendess and dispensabillity of the human bits.

>>3354062
>>3354237
Yeah, go for it.
I've got friends with less experience than you that got a few opportunities from it. And, to me at least, you looks like someone with a confirmed artstyle, wich is good.

>>3354375
Does a astrobear shit in his space suit?

>>3354381
I will. Thanks!

>>3354870
Awesome dude! Your angle is much better than what I came up with when I posted a couple of days ago. One more small crit:

The sword bag could use some drop shadow and ambient occlusion on the ground. It looks like it's floating a bit. Had to point this out since everything else is so perfect.

You have a blog or something? I really like this piece!

>>3353637
make it look like she's coming out from a tropical jungle

>>3354223
Was curious now that I've made a bit more progress on it if it's still too Tumblr or not.

>tfw bf showed it to his normie co-worker today who said "wow! Your gf draws good anime!"

Crits pls.

>>3355749
The linework is the best part, I'd recommend just turning this into flat colors with cel shading.

>>3355795
Work on getting cleaner lines. This is entirely chicken scratch.
After that, practice line weight and how that works. See how the lines communicate nothing about
the shape?
And also learn to have a focal point in mind. See how everything looks flat because you've treated it all the same? You need to have an attitude towards the different parts of the drawing.
And finally you should practice drapery and shading.

>>3355795
Long neck is long

>>3353470
This is really great whats your process?

WIP. Any improvements I can make so far?

my program crashed 100 times

>>3354872
Nope, just for myself.

>>3355532
Thanksthanks, though she's clinging to a cliff wall under an overhang, no ground.

>>3354874
Currently I'm only posting on instagram themichaelmacrae

>>3352891

NEW THREAD

>>3356226
>>3356226
>>3356226

>>3352891

NEW THREAD
>>3356236
>>3356236
>>3356236

>>3356133
beautiful stuff my man
love the flow of lines

>>3355179
nice noah cirus drawing lol

Sorry i dont had a scaner

>>3353560
Splash splash. Think I might add some cum and fecies on that and call it a day. Abstract sploshes are the best! Yay!

You know, i don't consider myself an artist. I just draw characters that i like and some others that i created, like this one in the pic. I wish i had studied music when i was young, somehow i ended up studying drawing. Anyways, any feedback on this drawing i made some weeks ago? I guess i could use more linework and anatomy knowledge.