/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

upboated

>>3352723

>>3352723

>>3352750
that is some atrocious dialogue setup man, find a better font and make the bubbles not garbge

>>3352750
unironically needs loomis

>>3352750
Draw more of the three girls in the top left panel

>>3352750
>Why don't you make like! a tree and Leave
>acdemy
>comic sans
lol

>>3352809
This is some good stuff.

>>3352723
made it just now for you famula.

>>3352743
first 4 panels are cool

>>3352818
nice dialog

>>3352829
idk what they're saying but I really like this style.

>>3352750
>>3352762
At least you're laughing ;)

>>3352879
Guy is an idiot, just stack those tires and climb over the tires.

>>3352833
what, no compliments on the art?

>>3352884
well, the guy on the armchair has a nice neck

>>3352886
you nasty mother fucker. dont ever reply to my posts again

>>3352879
this give me EVA vibes

>>3352892

>>3352839
thanks dud

>>3352879
at least learn basic english before making comics in english
this is just maximum cringe

>>3352900
saved so hard

>>3352829
cool

From 2013.

>>3352812
Thanks. Glad you like.

>>3354069
fuck off

>>3354069
literally my gf

>>3354069
>autistic /r9k/ fembot gets a pity fuck from Chad
Oh my gosh this is adorable

>>3354069
die

>>3354069
This comic perfectly portrays Jaiden

A parody I made for a /v/ drawthread

>>3354069
that's pretty hilarious

>>3352879
>>3352750
lmao what the fuck

>>3352818
good shit, already lost my breath at the tbqh famula

>>3352900
lost its charm

>>3354069
hot

>>3352879

May be one day I'll try and re do this and not fail at life.

>>3354179
As far as web comics go I follow an atrociously drawn comic but the text is interesting and funny and tons of people like it despite bad art.


What is Ic's opinion on the idea that Idea execution> Good art


Good idea : http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/

>>3352743
fucking hell anon I lost it hard as fuck to this

>>3352743
The killer returns to dance on the grave of his victim

>>3352750
this is why you don't do anime before fundies

>>3354191
>those speech bubbles
http://graphicdesign.wikia.com/wiki//gd/_-_Graphic_Design_Wiki

>>3352809
wow, that's some professional quality art. how long have you been drawing for?

never been proud of any of my comics
this one went to /top on 9gag if it means anything

>>3354293
This is bad
>this one went to /top on 9gag
not surprised

first page to fish comic i made

>>3354293
el goblino....

>>3354301
oops i fucked up

heres a normal one

>>3354301
is lright

>>3354069
I didn't knew about this girl before
what a fucking hack lmao

Did this for a little project that i had, it was my favorite.

>>3354313
Bad strokes
Nice expressions

Originoli ravioli dinosauroli

>>3354293
Haha, I love this comic. The art is kinda repulsive but that makes it work.

>>3354301
>>3354305
love the style and the humor

>>3352809
You're too good. Now I'm sad.

>>3352743
Why did he become british?

>>3352900
Counter-dependency at its finest.

>>3354069
you probably give head as bad as you draw

>>3354313
Load it into Krita, make a second layer, draw clean lines to make the comic more clear.
Nice.

>>3354465
Ur daddy gay spaec lasbianz desu, faggot.

>>3352743
GG kekked

My comics are all gay furry porn, sorry.

>>3354465

You should give them lessons.

>>3354524
let take a look, unless its barashit

>>3352723
Is it a new meme to start calling people crabs here? I started seeing a lof of crab comments after that "draw a crab" thread

>>3354524
then post one without lewds so I can laugh at you

>>3352743
Wait, so there's suddenly a bookshelf on the second panel and then it disappears on the next one?

>>3353638
I dig it. Whats the story here?

>>3352743
Subtle, sensible chuckle from me.

>>3354293
Why did you put so much effort for a shitty joke?

>>3352829
Cool style, reminds me of Mike Mignola

>>3352829
Translate? Like the style, would love to read more if available in English or Japanese

>>3352829
I like this. Can't read it but it still has charm.
However my advice is to make the edges a little cleaner.

>>3354305
>>3354301
These are really nice, keep it up. I wonder how it would look if you scanned and colored them.

>>3352723
Shitty newfag meme, notice how everyone who has tried spreading it is terrible at art? hmmmmm

>>3352900

>>3354069
just awful

>>3354790
i dont get it

>>3354790
Arts nice

Based on a true story.

>>3354928
rage comics :( why cant those cute four panel japanese ones become the dominant internet comic instead of Big face in the last panel!!

>>3354291
About 10 years seriously. almost 8 years professionally.
>>3354437
I'm sad more than enough for the both of us. Stay happy, anon.

>>3354986
it took you two years of drawing to reach a professional level? how good were you 2 years in?

does cute vidya-related count

>>3355032
it's well drawn, the message is simple, and the characters are popular. I think this would be the sort of thing that could go super viral on things like tumblr, though it's a bit cliche. Of course blogging websites are kind of hit and miss, but I think it's got strong potential.

>>3355020
Oh, no no, I've been drawing my entire life, like most artists I guess.
I just started taking it seriously a bit late in my life. I've been decent before that already imo, but I never considered myself to be pro level. But then I realized I can actually make money off the skill I always considered to be just a hobby.
And in order to become more marketable I decided it was time to do some actual analitical studying and introspection.
About 3 years into my freelance career I stumbled upon a client that wanted porn comics and then I realized how much I really sucked at fundamentals. I guess I developed a better critical eye, when I was comparing myself to pro comic artists.

>>3355050
>you can totally get good after 25 - /ic/
>who, me? oh, I've been drawing all my life - also /ic/
This is why we fail, because no one will tell the fucking truth.

>>3355050
Would you mind showing me your progress anon? I'm really curious how good you were when you realized you wanted to take it more seriously, as in, how far your "doodling" had gotten you, aswell as the improvement that happened when you took it seriously.

>>3355054
everyone has been drawing their whole lives though. i think perhaps people are reading that as 'take art seriously' not fucking nothing. why would you even try to get into art if you didn't like drawing already

>>3355066
Uh, I have only porn related examples. If you don't mind checking those, go ahead.
And I don't have any relevant examples from the late 2000s, when I started putting in some serious studying.
This one is early (I was 16 at the time) vs recent stuff.
1/3

>>3355071
2/3
Comics progress through the years I've been drawing them. Putting in tons of hours of repetitive but very quickly created art helped the most imo.
That was the time I grinded fundamentals the most. Especially perspective, cause you need a lot of that in comics.

>>3355073
3/3
Progress from when I started drawing comics, till my last comic for the same client.

>>3355073
3/3
Last one. Progress from when I started drawing comics, till my last comic for the same client.

>>3355054
What I was doing before wasn't studying. It was just child's play. I can say most of the stuff I learned and that made me good in a marketable sense happened in my late 20s.
I guess it would probably took me less time if I would've been mature enough in my teens, but art as a career was the least of my concerns back then.

>>3355077
>>3355073
>>3355071
thanks for sharing your progress anon, so did that one dude hire you to draw BLACKED porn for 4 fucking years? lmao
Kind of impressed you got hired in 2012, it's pretty mediocre, nowhere near your level today.
Anyways, insightful, thanks mate.

>>3355087
I had to learn to draw in that kind of style, which was pretty different from what I've been doing at that time. And also I've never done porn nor comics before.

not mine but whatever

>>3352723

>>3355093
glad you like it.

>>3355040
thank you I was aiming for something cute
and you're right this one got a fair amount of notes in tumblr/twitter

>>3355097
ayy lmao

>>3355054
It's the great mystery anon. One of my goals is to find out if it's true.

I haven't ever seen proof of anyone who got good after 25 who didn't have prior experience. I've googled a ton and most of the results I get are buzzfeed esque articles about Van Gogh.

It's disconcerting. But I've also seen people who have been drawing since elementary and are still shit, so time isn't everything.

>>3355182
I'm not that anon but someone who falls into the "been drawing for whole life" category.

Why would you want to start drawing at the ripe age of 25+? Think about that.
I always imagine those people to be millenials who don't want to do physical work, just sit at their computer and watch the money rolling in. However, that is not how art works.
What did you do before 25?
Why did you stop doing it?
What makes you think that you won't stop drawing too after a while?
Do you think drawing is easy? Did you find your "passion" now and you totally love drawing/painting, KNOWING that you'll never superseed those, who have been drawing for their entire life?

Loving art, as corny as it sound, doesn't mean that you'll get to enjoy it every day. There will be days where you hate it and don't want to do anything, yet you HAVE to anyways.

Seriously, if you are in your late twenties or older, think very well about chosing that path. I don't want to discourage you but your artcareer will do that constantly. It is a better/safer way to continue what you did before, because you'll get good at it and you'll earn more.

>>3352829
Blog?

A really basic comic from a few years ago

>>3355207
>loser mentality
Grats, anon.

>>3355207
I personally started drawing (started as in, I had never drawn for anything but a school assigment before) at 18 years old, about 2 years ago. As for why? For fun.
As for superceding those that have drawn all their life, I feel like it's not that far a stretch, there's many people who have drawn their entire life on deviantArt which I absolutely dumpster in terms of art I think.
It's undeniable that they have a huge advantage on me, but I feel like if somebody were to really work their ass off, they could definitely catch up.

>>3355207
Being honest, I'm 23, but I consider myself close enough to have the anxiety of going over the hump. Before I started drawing, I was really big into writing, and I'm finding that a lot of my ideas I'd enjoy so much more if they had a visual component to them.

So I guess with me, drawing is just an extension of my love for storytelling. I don't think I'll ever stop trying to tell stories, honestly.

Personally, I don't want to be better than anyone. But I'd certainly want to be good enough to draw an appealing picture.

>>3355216
Loser mentality is chosing art as a career after 25.
Art is NOT a career, it i sa fucking hobby. Only 1% of people (the intelligent and ambitious ones) will have a career in art.

If you chose to become an artist because you're too stupid to learn how to program or your youtube career doesn't pay your bills or you flunked out of college, then guess what: you're the loser.

>>3355226
I have a career in art and I'm pretty sure I'm not the 1% when it comes to ambition or intelligence. It's mostly a matter of passion and hard work.
If you are scared of failing you'll never make it. In any field.

>>3355226
This is really bitter anon. I hope you're trolling, otherwise it's sort of sad to see someone so upset about other people trying to pursue happiness.

>>3355226
You're projecting too much, anon

>>3355226
>>3355232
>>3355230
>>3355228


This is actually quite true. I'm not sure why everyone is getting butthurt and upset at this comment. Being good at art comes down to 3 factors

1.) Talent

It's based on intelligence and natural aptitudes to specific domains in the brain that are related to art such as creativity, hand eye coordination, visual memory, among other things

2.) Practice time

Truth is, unless you're some fucking neet, it's nearly impossible to make it in art after the age of 25 assuming you're starting from complete scratch. For one thing, neuroplasticity diminishes rapidly along with your free time.

3.) Deliberate practice

In other words, fundamentals. This really comes down to discipline. How many loser nerds on here that play video games all day really have the discipline to grind bridgeman or loomis or work through erik olson's perspective lectures? Very few. Most people just wanna doodle their ocs and call it a day without really challenging themselves.

This person said that only 1% of artists "make it" but I think it's even lower than that.

>>3355248
He said 1% of people, not 1% of artists.
That's a big difference.

>>3355226
>Loser mentality is chosing art as a career after 25.
Nah, loser mentality is giving up.

>>3355248
Real crab hours.

This is all just assumptions on character and pseudo-scientific vomit. Do you have an actual argument, anon, or do you just like to crab as a hobby?

>>3355265
It's still bullshit. Plenty of people get careers in art, and some of them are shit. He's talking out of his ass as a tryhard troll.

>>3352723

>>3355287
for some reason the high collar and wig hair made me think anita was a caricature of george washington

>>3355292
God, now i can´t unsee.

>>3355182
>I haven't ever seen proof of anyone who got good after 25 who didn't have prior experience.

Well, you can't, because literally every single person on earth has been "drawing since they were a child". That's what children do, they fucking draw. Unless you grew up in the African savannah or some war torn hellhole, you too drew when you were a kid, so congratulations, you qualify as having previous experience, which is ultimately completely worthless.

>>3355248
I think you might just be exceptionally untalented and stupid. So you probably shouldn't project your own situation onto everyone else.

>>3355353
Don't make accusations like that anon, people like this eat that up. Accept that they're a sad case of bitterness and move on. They're not worth your time.

>>3355349
So there's no difference between a child that drew every day until say, its 12th birthday, and a child that drew every other month? When somebody says "I drew a lot as child" then I assume they mean they filled hundreds of sketchbooks with shitty doodles until somewhere in their late teenage years or something like that.

>>3355377
I mean, unless the kid had artist parents or relatives who deliberately taught him at an early age, what significant difference do you expect there to be? It's commonly accepted that DELIBERATE practice is what makes you improve, not just worthless quantity. Hence why there are all those meme improvement charts of people drawing naruto and sonic for 20 years straight without making the tiniest bit of improvement.

>>3355377
It varies anon. But in the end it honestly doesn't matter. The only way to improve is to keep working at it, and if you can't work at it, it isn't for you. Try not to fall into the trap of thinking about what ifs or coulda beens.

>>3354069
CUTE

>>3354069
This is great

>>3355401
There's definitely a ton of children that were better than me until I started to draw, so if they started to take it serious, they would have an advantage compared to the me that started having never really drawn before. I've never said I consider it to be a particularly noteworthy advantage like >>3355405 seems ot imply but still.
I only wanted to disagree with the retarded way that anon put it, there's still some mileage gained from a "child" doodling, depending on what constitutes as a child.

>>3355417
I didn't imply that at all.

>>3354790
batman wouldnt do that
hes too ethical/moral

>>3355422
It's just how I read it, the consoling tone and the platitudes in particular. I assumed you thought I was in the mindset of "I' didnt draw a quadrillion hours of retarded doodles as a child now im NGMI" since that's so common here, and were trying to console me or something.

>>3352879
>>3352750
Not even trying to insult or anything, I'm just genuinely curious, do you have autism or some form of social disability?

>>3355443
I'm diagnosed with Aspergers yeah. Why?

Did this for some random anon.

i don't have a scanner

>>3355054
Sounds like you admit that you are just speculating and talking out of your ass when you give advice on the subject

>>3354069
Be more serious about it girl, and stop treating it like its detached from your man. That thing IS your man.

>>3355567
Nice looking Frieza you got there.. can't say the same about Goku.

>>3355663
I have no idea how this artstyle works

>>3355674
looks like an egoraptor cartoon

>>3354790
Ooc

>>3355674
If you want to emulate Toriyama's work I suggest you check out "Akira Toriyama - The World Special" you'll find a PDF file somewhere.

ok but theres some tinfoilery to go with it

be on the lookout for :

nosepeople - tumblrette feminists (the bad kind, not actual women)
eyepeople - reddit
earpeople - pitchfork
toungepeople- 4chan

what about touchpeople? they exist, they are just called asians, having possesed the superior tech pre-y2kipodworldipadparenting they did not "totally" degrade like most of the world
and have adapted to digital living.

they just don't like you thats all, but most are actually human.

face fractal people: these are children. proceed with caution and do not have sex with them.

a man wearing an upside down face: a philosopher or fellow autist who is trying o fit in but closet studying the world. also human, but your gut instinct is to call them loser or crazy

just say the following phrase : "Hello, I seem to have forgotten my watch, and I am late for an appointment, is it 3:33 yet?"
a fake human will correct you with the actual time, and a fellow "real" will be weirded by out by you and awkwardly ask you a question and investigate further.

>studied figure drawing for 6 years
>literally the only comic I've ever posted online is this
>drawn with a mouse in <hour
>incidentally goes viral
>so viral that a friend quoted it to me it IRL and didn't believe I drew it
The hundreds of hours of figure drawing feel like they've gone to waste over the years. I'll start doing serious commissions soon, so there's that.

>>3355768
I know too well how Toriyama's art is supposed to look like, maybe to a fault even since that's all I draw. I was referring more to Western comic style being alien to me.

>>3352818
saved

>>3355982
Just keep grinding like you did for Toriyama and it wound't feel alien to you anymore, and also I would avoid trying to stylized DB or any anime/manga because it will stick out badly and work on materials that are known for that specific genre.

>>3355993
Thanks, that's sound advice. Also I assume the image is from How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way? I might give it a read if it's good

dabbling in woodblock for the first time in years

it is so satisfying

>>3355265
1% of people don't even make art retard.

made this a while ago. hopefully at some point I can do another

>>3356269
terrible

>>3356288

Thank you i try

>>3352723

>>3356332
>>3352723
Wanted to also post this

>>3356288
Sums it up well.

>>3354286

This is fucking radical.

>>3354293
the art is terrible, but that's why the comic works desu

>>3352723

>>3356332
>>3356333
digging this a lot, and also the style looks comfy to look at

>>3356332
I member you from how’s ur webcomic on /ic/. How’s your webcomic?

>>3354632
Could be extended soffit or just a cantilevered shelf

>>3356332
>>3356333
Loving this.

>>3356859
Funny but really gay

How much should I charge to draw a comic page?

>>3356868
dumb question. based on skill, popularity, detail, panels. apply yourself

>>3356866
Thank you dude!

>>3356859
Aren't you that guy from /co/?
Got that page with Jesus?

>>3356894
Here it is

>>3356902
And this one expands on panel 2

>>3354322
Glad the little dino survived

>>3356904
>ch3p14

>>3355097
Lol

Comics are too much effort man.

>>3354191
Comics are nothing more than visual stories. Of course good art is ideal, but the story and how the artist portrays it always matters more. I also follow webcomics that don't have the best art. And honestly, after a while the artist either becomes better, or the art becomes charming.

>>3356902
Thank you, I unironically love this one.

>>3356904
lol

>>3356332
Ok this is cool

>>3357047
I dunno, There is a certain type of ugliness to some webcomics that I just can't overlook, like the type of art from the post you quoted. Artists who are unable to find at the very least a simplistic and appealing art style to compliment their writing are usually not intelligent or dedicated enough to write good stories in the first place.

>>3357671
this

>>3356987
i like it

>>3352809
this looks ironically funny
is there more?

>>3357671
anime is poison, i'm sure they'd have some perfectly acceptable rip off of the peanuts or calvin and hobbes if it wasn't for anime teaching them a fundamentally narrow style

Spicy meme for the bread

>>3352723
>post a 1 page comic of anything you made

First one I made

One of the absolute first things I did when I began drawing. It was suposed to be a darkest dungeon joke

>>3358548
kek

>>3354293
Of fuck, I remenber this going around /v/. It's pretty good.

>>3358548
This can't be all is it.

>>3356840
It's doing breddy gud so far - have a good amount of buffer too, so I'm not too stressed with drawing updates now.

>>3358216
Usually I update the comic with one page per month. You can see the name of the site where I post it in the footer of the page. Don't expect a lot of depth from it tho. It's more of an experiment in style than anything else.

>>3358632
me

>>3356987
What are your social media handles? Can we be friends? Love the way you draw. What artists are your inspiration?

>>3358190
Thank you, thank you.
>>3359243
You can hit me up on tumblr, big boy. 9410.tumblr.com

This is one I made a few months ago in collaboration with my friend who does the dialogue.

>>3358667
That's all I did lad. Im too lazy to do more.

>>3352750
Why does it look like in the final panel that the two closest to the center is pulling JoJo poses as the guys on each side represents their stand?

>>3359543
what's really making my dick retract into my stomache here are the expressionless, sedated fucking faces. learn to do emotions, anon.

>>3352809
Im confused. Is it just styled like a manga but not structured like one? How am i supposed to read.

>>3360548
this is your brain on anime
weaboos, not even once.

>>3360548
You read it from left to right. I think it's pretty obvious if you read the text.

>>3358954
What’s the webcomic called?

>>3352723
Forgive my handwriting ;_;

>>3361980
https://tapas.io/series/Project-SHaDe
You can read it here senpai

Every page is one panel