/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3337968
Its 2018, get an artstation and post your shit and if ur gud you’ll get work. No one gives a shit that you live in a backwards shithole and maybe it’ll be best if you don’t mention it you fucking igarot.

>>3337968

Well, speaking from the land of Hamburgers and Handguns... We're shipping a lot of our animation work over to you guys, so you might consider getting a job in a studio. It has to be easier than it is in the US nowadays. Everything here is pre-production and Storyboarding.

magpakamatay ka

>>3337999

Gago ka

hanap ka dun sa jobstreet boss.

>>3337984
lol this

>>3337968

If you want to be like Ronnie Del Carmen, go to La Salle. If you're lucky, move to America if you have to.

>>3338197

>La Salle

I meant Santo Tomas

>>3337968
for starters, don't mention that you're a flip
pakyu po

>Got any tips on how to get a job related to art
Most flips with art related careers are freelancers, the other friend I know is an intern at Toei Animation here but she has a degree in multimedia I think.
But if you want to be a freelancer, the tip isn't any different from what is already posted in this board (git gud, Make a lot of connections, post your work online, draw fanart to gather audience, Share your work to groups and forums etc, etc)

Pay a few ₱₱ to buy tickets to Graphika Manila. They invite Filipino speakers and some popular artists overseas (like artgerm) and how they're able to rise to international success

>>3338238
>₱₱ to buy tickets to Graphika Manila.

I went there on 2017 when artgerm came on, I wasn't impressed with the conference and I didn't learn anything. Even my professor said that the presentors were just showing off their portfolio.

I got to meet artgerm though and I got a sketch from him, which is cool.

putang ina mo
just draw inspiration from b*saya slums and made your picture tear jerker and how miserable the life is, and moneys coming in.

>>3338243
Did you and I attended the same conference 'cause I did a lot of notes from different speakers, except from the Gary Baseman creep. Though I think the 2016 one was better

>>3337968
Wag kang tamad
Get back to work

Tangina mo, next time, don't mention that you're a flip, pakyu ka. Tska show us your work gago.

what >>3338238 said is correct. Build up a lot of connection, befriend a lot of fellow artist. I used to be a slave for a dozen of animation studios here. It's very hard and sometimes boring, getting discovered as an "independent artist" in our shit hole country is fucking hard. Unless you're one of those "papeymus" artists on fb and insta who draws shitty comics and bad art, cashing in to any recent post that went viral online for the likes and shares. Also what industry do you want to be in? "Digital Art" is a broad term, there's the game industry, animation for tv/web, etc. be specific brad.

>>3337968
There's a pretty high demand for digital artists in the private sector, however, I'm quite sure they don't pay well and they would bargain you for the lowest price.

So I guess it's best lowering your expectations.

>>3337968
>I live in manila
I'd kill to live in a city with so many cartoon animation studios even if it's all shitty outsource work. You must be dumb if you can't get a job in animation there.

>>3337968
Show work senpai and I may consider passing workload.

Work online, start making yourself a name and accept commissions, open a Patreon and shit like that. Considered you live in a third world shithole you should be able to live with large with very little.

Meanwhile I live in Shitaly: heavy taxes, every decent art school out of my reach and I need at least 2k a month to make a living. Genuinely thinking about moving in some shithole and live with porn.

>>3338902
>Meanwhile I live in Shitaly:

You have the greatest artworks in history at your disposal as your references!

but yeah, the taxes do suck and it disincentives artists.

>>3338899

u first

>>3338254

>Gary Baseman

I don't know why people like him, I realized that he has a large following when Pewdiepie revealed that he was a fan of his work.

>Did you and I attended the same conference 'cause I did a lot of notes from different speakers

I can count on my fingers the things which I learned, two of the most which stood out is:

- Do fan art of two different characters and bash them together to capture two audiences (e.g. Hello Kittty Thor)

- Post your works online around when your audience wakes up, I got this from artgerm.

The rest are just showing off or are talking about their irrelevant life stories. What I was expecting from the conference was that they'd give tutorials on how they do their work, which they mostly didn't.

>>3338902

>Decent art school out of reach

Ever heard of Firenze and the ateliers they run there?

>>3339082
I meant financially, there are some decent art schools around here but they are all private. The only public one is a complete mess.

Also not only the ateliers in Florence are crazy expensive but they are also mainly focused on photorealism and the Bargue method which isn't that helpful to get a job as a concept artist or illustrator.

>>3337968
post mo trabaho mo

>>3337968
>do you think this is a good plan?
yes.

also post your art, gungung.

>>3338465
like TOEI Philippines? iirc animators are paid even worse in the Philippines than in Japan.

Can another country fucking nuke this place? Cheers

can /ic/ suggest me good flip artists?

>>3341147
Russia, please take us out of our misery.

>>3342665
kris sison i guess?

>>3342665
Fucking Hews Hack

>been jacking off to his art
>read on his DeviantArt that he is a Flip
>Disgusted and never look at his art again

>>3342665
me

>>3343365
>Disgusted
more like you felt inferior to someone with actual skill

>>3343365

As a flip I don't know why I agree with you.

>>3337968
Putang ina hahahahamay mga pinoy pala sa ic lungat

>>3343392
post work muna bago follow

>>3343361
looked her up and found out she's in Gunship Revolution. One of my fucking goals

>>3343365
>jacking off to hews

>>3343933
*his. *he's. shit.

Question to the Flips in the thread, would you rather be white or asian?

>>3338046
>>3337999
tangina nyo mag ingles kayo mga barubal na unggoy

>>3343471
>haham
bobo amputa di mo alam na may pilipino dito putangian mo kang gago ka mamatay n sana lolo at papa mo potangina nmo

>>3344591
Asian. We're brown asian's tho

Flips in this thread post your work.

>>3344591
I'd rather be white. I hate our asian sized dicklets

>>3344600
hahahahaha bakit? pagtatawanan mo lang, no? sinong tanga ang gagawa nyan, hmm?

cynicism aside, don't do it fellow flips. you don't have to prove anything

>>3344591
I like white girls, and the only ones that like me are feminists trying to get their brown card

I want to be white so much mang

>>3344597

SouthEast asian tayo, tignan mo yung attached pic.

The sad part is I think the girl on the right is a flip and she reminds me of this:

http://i.magaimg.net/img/2v48.jpg

>>3337968
jungle asian reporting in
any sludge asian?

>>3344794
>not being friends with qt cosers in PH
gr8 b8 m8.

>>3344949
sorry famalams uwu
hope this post isn't bannable - just consider this as refs for /beg/ thread

>>3338254
>Gary Baseman
>looked at his(?) artsy
>pff'd and immediately closed my tabs
Lol

>>3344591
I'd rather be asian. Don't want to be associated with loud obnoxious westerners

>>3339076
Then you probably weren't paying attention senpai. You and your prof sounds pretentious t bh

fuck, this thread is hilarious to me....

>>3338423
nice, someone who's actually worked in the industry. would you not recommend a 9 to 5 job as an "artist" here in the philippines? is freelance the only way to go?

it's frustrating because "art jobs" aren't visible here, so for most of us who never went to art school it's like leaping into the dark. which art industry would you recommend? which ones should people stay clear of?

>>3344600
>>3344698
not gona post my art but Guerilla retweeted this
https://twitter.com/Guerrilla/status/973926032813248512

Saba mu mga bahog baba!

Aside from Gunship Revolution, are there any other local studios that focuses on concept art/digital art/drawing in general? Not counting animation studios

>>3345024
diff anon here

The pros of having a 9-5 artist job is that you have a steady income and get company benefits like healthcare, insurance and 13th month bonus. That is if you're a regular employee and not a contractual. The con is you'll be a wage slave, get burnt out and never be able to pursue your passion job.

eh to be honest, I'd rather have a non art related job and draw on my leisure time. Basta kuntento at nakakapagdrawing ako, masaya na ako dun.
t. IT employee

>>3345222
doii try searching online, there's a couple of game design studios along EDSA and QC afaik. They mostly work on outsourced mobile games for iOs and android. I'll try to ask my friend if she knows a couple of them studios. I'll try to reply to you soon. But be warned of "nepotism" tho, alam mo naman dito sa atin tangina basta may backer ka pasok ka na kagad, lugi yung mga competent na artist.

>>3344993
I don't want to be associated with sex whore tourism, pagpag eater and slum swarthy asian.

>>3345982
>But be warned of "nepotism" tho, alam mo naman dito sa atin tangina basta may backer ka pasok ka na kagad, lugi yung mga competent na artist.

ay shet akala ko sa gobyerno lang yan. btw wag na kayo mag abala sa civil service exam. nasa probinsya ako pero dahil walang backer hindi ako makatrabaho sa kahit anong opisina na may opening. sayang, madaming benefits pag sa gobyerno. hindi ka pati mabuburnout kahit kahera ka lang

>>3344949

That's like 1% of our population lol

>>3345113
mas baho pa baba nimo dong

>>3345241
i know, i know, guy with a cushy IT job. i'm already a wage slave, so i might as well get burnt out doing something i genuinely want to get better at, i.e. drawing. i have other hobbies to keep me sane, but i want to make drawing my /job/, know what i mean? am i delusional? let me know. just looking for input from pinoys already in the industry, if you're out there.

>>3345982
>But be warned of "nepotism" tho, alam mo naman dito sa atin tangina basta may backer ka pasok ka na kagad, lugi yung mga competent na artist

tangina my dude sa marami nang ganyan sa batch ko, nakakabadtrip

>>3346333
>>3345024

>>3338423 Anon here. What >>3345241 is correct. I was a contractual on a couple of animation studios. I work for about 6 months to a year each. I went thru a couple of departments. CU (Clean Up), DIP (Digital Ink & Paint) and BG (Background Painter). They rarely hire you for regular employment, unless you're really REALLY great at doing your job. I was actually close to being hired as a regular. But alas the Supervisor told the HR to hire her newly grad niece full time, cause of fucking nepotism. I saw her portfolio and it's not even "industry ready" yet. I got burnt out from working as a slave, so I decided to take a couple of months off.

Most clients here are looking for 2D graphic designers for their brands, logos, ads, flyers etc. I used to work for a graphic design studio too, back when I was till a new grad. Expect tons of revisions and lack of sleep. I can say it's one of the 'less hard' industry to go in to. As long as you have a great portfolio, and know how to market yourself effectively to a client. There's no such thing as an "easy job" here in PH, everything is terribly fucking hard. You either work hard or starve yourself to death from being broke. You just have to choose the poison that you really want, stick to it, and hope that your passion and love for that job never gets burnt out easily. Also if you get hired, don't forget to befriend your co-workers and higher ups, even if they're all assholes to you. (Magpaka platic ka na lang ng hindi masyadong halata). You might never know, they might have beneficial clients, and they might give you projects you can work on, further branching out your connections. You'll definitely need it when you decide to do freelance work.

I'm currently a freelancer right now, doing outsourced various art related work. No health benefits, less stress in commuting etc. But hey at least I get to enjoy drawing and painting. Also less stress on having to deal with kupal management and co-workers kek.

>>3347338
How and where do you get freelance work? I rarely see any listings for illustrators on freelancer(and are somehow being spammed by pajeets and their stolen traced vector art)

>>3342665
Mike Inel. He helped with some animations on Katawa Shoujo, and he's also made soe pretty good Gumball and Gravity Falls animations. And he's entirely self-taught.

>>3342665
Bleedman
He's actually my neighbor

>>3348494
kek
what does he look like now? He looks 30ish on his profile pic back in the deviantart days

>>3348507
Pretty much looks the same. You can check his youtube channel, he posts video reactions and stuff.
He was obese long ago but he lost weight and still wears clothes he was wearing when he was really fat. Also a recluse, only goes outside to watch cinema

>>3348514
what's his real job? I refuse to believe he actually makes money making comics for snafu

>>3348514
>Also a recluse, only goes outside to watch cinema
sounds like the average /ic/ poster

>he posts video reactions and stuff
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFUap900jAM

>>3344591
Asian. Can't live without rice and heart inducing foods with lots of variety in flavor.

>>3348014
join FB groups, some illustrator jobs don't appear in jobstreet/online ph job sites

>>3347338
i understand what >>3345241 is saying: a day job has benefits. but mine is draining the life out of me.

>There's no such thing as an "easy job" here in PH
siigh ain't that the truth

the work you did sounds tough. i also hate the commute and office politics, but i'm sure you still got something out of it? if you could go back in time, would you bother getting into an art industry office job or go straight into freelance? what kind of work do you do now? could you maybe share some art, even just a crop of a piece?

>>3339609
TOEI actually pays their animators well they're probably the only japanese animation outsource that doesn't have mexican rates

and believe me mexico has shittier rates compared to japan while americans usually payed the most and are pretty lenient

>>3348461
Oh, I already found out about him through his gumball porn :( but his art is so consistently good

>>3342665

Samefagging but I really like how japhers designs characters. Any more artists similar to his syle?

>>3342665

as stated in the thread, Ronnie Del Carmen

he immigrated to the US though

>>3348815
>japhers
tumblr face

>>3342665
HartovaMaverick@twitter
Eko99nine@twitter
Ninjatic
soyfreak@da
017m@ig
roggles@da (previously pokefreak)

post your blogs, amigos
so I can follow you

>>3348664
Yes I got something out of it. I learned a lot from doing in-house work, experience is a must. Tbh animation studios would only hire if
a.) you have at least a year or two of experience working in the field OR
b.) if your portfolio looks "industry ready" enough, regardless if you're a fresh grad or not.

Just be sure to ace the skill test they're going to give you. I personally know a couple of friends who didn't even graduate in any art related field. Who at first, knew nothing about art. They practiced, got good, and eventually landed jobs as an IB (In-Between) animator in a couple of animation studios here. That department is always low on employees, and always has an opening for vacant positions, some resigns, some goes AWOL cause of the hard and very tedious work load. Once you're hired, they'll train you for a couple of months after your drawing and animating skills are polished. You'll eventually to be given industry related work. I also used to be a IB intern/trainee at first. But shit, the training was too harsh for me. It was so fucking hard. I ended up asking the HR to transfer me to a different department, good thing I haven't signed any legal papers yet, or else I'll be fucked.

>if you could go back in time, would you bother getting into an art industry office job or go straight into freelance?
If given the chance to back in time, I'd still work in a art industry office job. Then go freelance, you gotta build up that connections first. You also gotta build up that confidence and learn a few things from your fellow artists.

>what kind of work do you do now?
odd job art freelancer. I get various different outsourced work, some nsfw.

>could you maybe share some art, even just a crop of a piece?
I can't, I currently signed an NDA, on all of my previous freelance work. Since it's outsourced work. I can't credit that work as mine. Even if I was the one who painted/drew that certain piece. They're pretty strict when it comes to those things.

>>3348664
>a day job has benefits. but mine is draining the life out of me.
again, freelance anon here from earlier reply. If you really want to get a job in the industry, focus more on getting good, and at least create an "industry ready" portfolio. If they see potential in your work. They might get you a position in their company/studio and put you in to good use. You'll most likely be hired in the IB animation department since they lack in employees in that department. Try to apply for a 2D CU or DIP artist position. But before applying, you must at least have a great looking portfolio, basic knowledge on how to draw and basic colors. You'll definitely need it. Good luck fellow anon.


>>3348014
>How and where do you get freelance work?
I'll try to share my personal method/steps, on how I got a few freelance projects later. I need to remember and backtrack the steps I did. I'll try to reply to you asap, check this thread from time to time.

>>3348871
>soyfreak@da
his art looks great, but damn I hate him when he posts about politics and DDS shit on fb.

Fellow flips. Poorfag here.
Can you suggest me a cheap laptop to buy for digital drawing ?

>>3349537
doii laptop ba para madali mo mabitbit? why not buy and assemble a desktop pc tho? It's much cheaper and the parts are much easier to replace compared to a laptop.

There are legit, less squammy and moderated groups on fb, (I forgot the name) who sells used computer parts. There's also a place in Manila where they sell out all the used pc computers, that was once used by call center fags. First of all how much is your budget? and will you be playing games on that computer? What programs will you use for drawing? PS, Sai, Clip paint? Will you also be using it for other things as well, like video editing and 3D modeling?

the best advice and will always be is "git good" and get a day job, art in phlip land is shit and will always be.
>digital artist philippines
mediocre-animudrawing-flipland thread FTFY
>these fucking goddamn rice eating southeastasian-nigletts trying to learn art.
You fucking neadthertals need to go back to normiebook.
>>3344600
flips' art is always been mediocre at best so idk, it's pretty easy to break into flip-art industry.

>>3349428
>>3349508
i'll start getting serious on my portfolio then. i block out time to draw everyday, but this gives me something concrete to work on, thanks.

>you gotta build up that connections first
yeah, there's definitely something about irl work connections that you don't get with online ones.

>I can't, I currently signed an NDA
maybe some personal work then? a doodle? it's cool if you'd rather not though.

thanks for all the input. this is fascinating stuff that i wouldn't get in a google search.

>>3338238
>>3338423

Well I'm just curious, why it is wrong for someone to tell us that he is a flip? Does this apply only to this board or it applies in daily life?

>>3349563
i'm assuming it's because clients will devalue your work and pay you lower than if you were a white artist because racism.

>Well I'm just curious, why it is wrong for someone to tell us that he is a flip?
that's because flips are widely known for being mediocre at art and being incompetent at it.
>>3349558 this

>>3349567
you sure you're not just talking about yourself buddy?

>>3349546
I need a laptop because lack of space and privacy. I live with my family and we have a family desktop which is the one I currently use for drawing.

I can't really assemble my own PC. I'm really bad at technology. I can't even pirate Clip studio. I just use medibang for art.

I don't play games at all. I'll use it for browsing, storing files,watching anime, and drawing.

>>3349579
If that’s all, most laptops will be fine. You really do have to do your research tho, no getting around it. If youre “bad at technology” now is the time to learn. Pirating software is basic stuff. Make sure the ram and videocard are up to specs for the art program you intend to use.

>>3349570
>>3349570
i'm pretty sure tbqh. the thing is phlips are too fuckinggoddamn retarded to even be objective about anything, all words that coming out of their goddamn mouths are "proud2bee a fucking little island people"

>>3349579
I see doii, try to go for an Intel laptop with at least 8gb of ram, 500gb hdd, and integrated graphics. I have a amd laptop and drawing with it is pretty much unusable, cause of the brush lag. I can't even go beyond 3000px cause of the brush lag.

>>3349596
How much are laptops with 8gb of ram, 500gb hdd, and integrated graphics ?

>>3349589
There are two kinds of flipfags on the internet: those who loudly and proudly proclaim themselves Filipino, and those that find the first group loud and obnoxious.

We're the mexicans of south east asia.

>>3349601
for a brand new one. They usually go for at least 25k pesos and up. But you can go join in some legit. less squammy and moderated buy and sell groups on fb for much cheaper. I guess 15k or less for used ones. Try searching on TipidPC, OLX and fb. But we warned tho, be extra careful when searching online. Some might scam you. I suggest you at least watch some "Tech Quickie" videos on Youtube before buying anything, so you can at least have an idea on computer related stuff.

>>3349606
but there can only be one country that's trash at art. godhelp flip land.

>>3342665
thanshuhai

>>3349690
>thanshuhai
pic related in terms of cosplay. stop embarassing flip land anon and PS gtfo of my board.

>>3344794
>http://i.magaimg.net/img/2v48.jpg
TANGINA MO, TOP FUCKING KEK HAHA

Bat walang nagpopost ng drawing nila? Gagawa kayo ng thread tapos hindi kayo magpuputanginangpost ng drawing niyo gago ba kayo?

>>3349729
doii mga takot pa, tangina kasi mga flips fags na tulad natin, natural na tayo laitero at butthurt gago. Kaya wala pang nagpopost, hintayin mo kapag may nag post ng isa. Susunod yung iba kek.

>>3349733

bat di mo simulan? fag.

>>3349729
see >>3344698

>>3349743
fucking pussy, you disgust me

>>3349606

Most filipinos who say they're proud to be filipinos are those who don't read history.

It took me half an hour of going through the history of the philippines and how we were colonized three fucking times to realize that we are the complete opposite of america. God damn america won every single war they've been in, they're the chaddest nation and their art reflects it in movies and video games

>>3349747
>Vietnam
>Afghanistan

Call me an idiot or something but I quit my architecture job because i want to pursue something in art. Architecture is just way too demanding of a career to be able to do art on the side, its slave work as well, pays very little, and the workload is just way too much. By the time I return back home, its either too late or im too tired to work on anything.

I'm doing freelance work right now but it's mostly just small time commissions. I've never considered the possibility of having a day job on art here, cause i just assumed the industry hates me and my artstyle (animu).

What kind of work can someone like me do here if I try for a day job? From what i'm getting here, jobs are mostly on the animation studios, do they hire folks that dont have any experience with it?

>>3349780
You can work as a 7/11 clerk or maybe a call center agent

>>3349780
Also here's where I post my stuff at:
https://twitter.com/Mendics00/media
https://mendics.deviantart.com/

ako na ang maging sacrificial lamb, laiitin nyo or whatever, alam ko naman madami pa kong kelangan matutunan.

>>3349787
eh thats not art related.

>>3349780
QA tester for Android or iOs apps, have you tried applying for that position? Basically you try to break the game or application while you use it. Make a report to the devs and they fix it asap.

I once stumbled on a game dev company that was hiring QA testers. maybe you could try that, and slowly move your way up?

>>3349780
Like what said earlier doing freelance illustrations from facebook groups.
Or maybe a mangaka ? there's that romance manga in 7/11. It has decent art, haven't really read it much though.

I hate being a flip guys honestly.
Ive renounced my flip nationality already. Cant even imagine living in that shit hole

>>3349802
black ink? the local publisher? hmm i've considered that, but haven't tried it yet.

>>3349803
sooo you're currently living in another country then fag?

>>3349788

from a first glance I can say you have an "okay" art, you can easily apply for a job in a animation studio here in PH. But what if you get hired, and you were given a task to complete, that isn't related to anime? Can you easily adapt to the given project and art style?

Kasi ang pansin ko sa portfolio mo, focus ka masyado sa personal anime style mo eh. Open ka ba sa different art styles aside anime?

>>3349817
I could, I just do that style cause thats what im comfortable with. You do have a point on that variety in my blogs. I've never polished a "portfolio" for viewing. But I do other stuff too, like mech designs etc. Design isnt exactly new to me since i did study architecture.

>>3349788
Please post your art right here so we BTFO all this foreigners in this thread.

>>3349824
>we
baka my asian nigger
Dont group me with you

>>3349824
We dont have to prove anything to them lol, I'm just putting them up because i'm curious with the industry we have here. I've always thought it was shit and nonexistent.

>>3349788
This guy is great why isn't he more popular ?

>>3349830
Cause i suck with marketing myself. I wouldn't call myself great tho.

>>3349827
Why are you so insecure, my self-loathing friend

>>3349832
you are obnoxious. Stop talking to me immediately.

>>3349831
You are above average anon. Aren't you worried that a lot of people won't be able to see your art ?

>>3349834
I'm working on that atm. I've been doing pretty much everything i can think of to get more exposure. Exposure is everything as a freelancer when you have no connections.

>>3349788
>>3349780
you're an idiot, pickup your tsquare and beg for your job back, the art industry in flip land is dead just like any SEAmonkeys' dreams in becoming succesful in anything. The art is not worth the gamble amigo.

>>3349836
maybe my dear friend, but my soul can't take it. I've burnt out with pushing aside my passion for years and working for a job I don't even like. I wouldn't mind it too much if I had time for art, but hence i don't. I'm not looking at only locally btw. I know a friend that earns like 50k doing webtoon comics.

>>3349841
Do commissions

>>3344794
>>3349699
kek. flip cosplay is actually horrendous.

>>3349847
Even japs, amerifats, other gaijins do ugly cosplays you know.
But the most popular one is in the philippines.

>>3349579
>I can't even pirate Clip studio
here amigo
https://mega.nz/#!5kxG0LAZ
Key:!edH8Evvfn8Y-1KJuQNML9Oavt9j-ZU2deXORUbVuMns

I think there's an even latest version floating around cgpersia but it's up to you to look for it

>>3349854
>amigo

>>3349824
There's no foreigners here. Majority are fellow flips projecting and insulting other flips.

>>3349788
neat art. Maybe you can post more fanart so you can gather more audience

>>3349856
I have tried that and it works lol

Flip here is there any disadvantage on telling you are flip ? Planning on becoming a mangaka here.

>>3349841
Your call buddy but these kind of decisions won't need to happen overnight, just take your time or some shit. You're probably on your mid 20's or someshit, there's plenty of time.

>>3349861
exactly my reason why Im doing it at this age. Cause i can't do it when im expected to be stable already.

>>3349788
Make a tumblr and pixiv account.
From my experience tumblr followers grow the fastest and anything lewd from any currently airing anime pulls in the likes.

Twitter is by far the most slowest since it's too saturated and I don't really care for DA anymore. I always get some weird fetish commissions there, so I don't bother with it as much.

Nice Phos

>>3349860
>Flip here is there any disadvantage on telling you are flip ?
uhhhh being a flip.

>>3349860
on the contrary SJWs will praise your art if you do

>>3349860
>>3349563
it's a stigma when a person mentions out of nowhere that they're a flip because of all the peenoy pride idiots from the past. It just screams "HEY HEY LOOK AT ME I'M A FLIP, PINOY PRIIIDE". It's the similar annoyance when a person puts their preferred pronouns and mental illness on their bio.
It's ok to put on your bio that you're a PH artist. Just don't be too patriotic on your timeline. It's just obnoxious

>>3349860
>manga

>>3349874
Yes, moving overseas learning japanese then getting publish in japan.

>>3349860
>>3349873
This
I fucking hate #PROUD2BEPEENOISE squealers. Latest example was the death of Stephen Hawking. I saw a post about how his favorite nurse was FILIPINO. All caps on the post too.
Christ! One of the greatest mind in this worlds passes away and whoever made that post tries to undermine that with PissPride.

>>3349788

I salute you for your bravery, great job anon.

>>3349877
I love reading/watching SOL and I think it'd be nice to make a SOL manga about comfy living here in the Philippines. I don't live near a big city so I have personal experience on a comfy Philippine lifestyle. Also MC would be a high school girl for sure.

>>3349863
but the truth is you are guaranteed to eventually become stable if you just hold on to architecture tightly enough or you know you could just say fuck it and ride the art-train which is basically a flip-coin that has the odds stacked up against you just because of being a SEAmonkey.

t. a mid 30's brainlet who fell for the "we're all gonna make it someday meme" and now unironically considering doing Shuaiby.

>>3349841

You made a good choice.

>"Art is only for those who are miserable without it. "
> - Michelangelo

I can relate to how you feel because i'd rather die right now than live a long life without my art.

>>3349873
not to mention almost all of my artist flip friends pride themselves for being a flip of every post they make.
should i get new friends? idk.

I think I'm pretty lucky.
I work as a web developer 4 days a week and do commissions on my 3 day weekends.
With job security so I have no risks as an artist.

>>3349892


>I can relate to how you feel because i'd rather die right now than live a long life without my art.
no you don't, well to be fair he did quit his job might as well go all in.

>>3349911
not everyone has jobs that are not that demanding in time, and give you enough stability. Some are even bad at doing both.

>>3349911
>web developer
the state of the world

>>3349919
It's really easy too, just wordpress and my clients are old americans.

>>3349780
>>3349788
are you me? it's like i fucking wrote this. except i haven't quit my arki job yet. you're licensed, right? how old are you my dude?

>>3349939
im 27, sorry man... that industry sucks balls. Kung hinde sa ortigas, sa makati or bgc. Talo sa commute tapos yung pay mo and workload mo. No more time for art. :Y

>>3349729
ok I'll bite. I did this a while ago pls no bully
I have a non-art related job; I draw and do studies on my free time and also to relieve stress. I'd post link to my blog but I'm a filthy fujo and majority of /ic/ doesn't like that.
I'm also that redliner from /alt/ where the orig artist got unwanted roasting

>>3349780
>What kind of work can someone like me do here if I try for a day job?
Have you tried gaming industry? I figured since you're from an archi background, you might find 3d modelling easier. There's also tons of short courses about 3d modelling, programming etc.

>>3349948
ive considered this before but
>>3349939
can attest to you that the 3d we do as architects are totally different from what artists do. we basically just plan it and push it up. sketchup scrubs we are.

>>3349948
since you posted Splatoon I'll also post a recent draw. I'm a /beg/ shitter who comes to this board to improve

>>3349941
>that industry sucks balls.
oh boy do i know it. if there's anyone out there who likes to draw cartoons/anime and thinks architecture might be a fun time.... don't do it. hope this saves a life.

i want to move away from architecture after taking the boards, but idk if i have the courage. i hope you make it, man. seems like your heart is really in drawing.

>>3349948
>>3349952
oh yeah. i work with 3d programs all day but when i see animation modeling i can't understand a damn thing.

>>3349948
Hey, that's pretty good

>>3349912
>>3349892

>no you don't

I dropped out of college and my parents are going to kick me out if I don't get a job in 3 months.

>>3337968
pag willing kau mag drawing ng malaswa, medyo mabilis makahanap ng customer hehehehe.

goodluck sa akin mga kapatid, sana magtagumpay kau sa inyong mga pangarap.

>>3349966
>>3349952
I see. I figured you guys would have a headstart when learning 3d modelling. It doesn't have to be animated and human tho. I'm thinking of doing environment models like this
https://sketchfab.com/curlscurly
https://sketchfab.com/models/e70dfe5012e349ababdd99241146d817
https://sketchfab.com/models/f196169ce0bf4f9c938acd3cbef19eab

>>3349957
p cute senpai

>>3349997
idk about the other guy but personally i'd rather draw 2D people than 3D environments. sukang suka na ako sa buildings HAHA

but cute genos... i like your style!

>>3349601
25K for laptop with 8GB RAM & 500GB HDD is ridiculous. There are budget PCs out there that are way cheaper, yet have more functionality. Plus 500GB HDD is not enough nowadays.

There are a ton of free drawing programs out there. I personally swear by Krita.

>>3350014
then post links on where to buy budget priced laptop you fucking fag.

>>3349995
parang drawing lang ng isang grade school sa likod ng notebook niya. Yung drawing mo kek

>>3349911
what programming language?

it fag here and got assigned to a javascript/jquery related project. It feels pretty shitty to learn from scratch so far, this is coming from a java programmer

>>3349995
seconding this
sex sells, especially if you're drawing furry or popular characters. Furries are willing to give huge $$$$ for a simple sparkle dog. Just don't forget to post them separate from your main portfolio. You don't want antis and sjw to hunt you down

also from personal experience, first time I did lewds of some popular vidya character and I gained almost 2k followers in 3 months

>>3348871
>tumblr face
his noses aren't red enough

>>3350024
Like I said >>3349925
I mainly do front-end so mostly css, bootstrap and javascript/jquery
Personally I think javascript is really easy to learn and I go to the /g/ webdev thread for help.

Honestly 4chan is a shitty site but boards like /ic/, /3/, /gd/ and /g/ can really help you out if you can filter through the shit.

>>3350019
I said PC not laptop.
https://www.back2gaming.com/guides/php-18000-gaming-pc-build-guide-november-2017/

>>3350028
where to get these clients?

>>3349518
lol does he really? I've only been seeing meme posts but then again I haven't been checking fb that much lately.

sino ka baka mutuals tayo sa fb lmao

>>3350038
furaffinity and other similar sites maybe?
Ask /trash/, they might know. There's lots of furries posted there

also posting this recent post from /co/
>furfags for whatever reason always have tons of disposable income
https://imgur.com/gallery/tCXMg

>>3350040
Yep, he does. Panay post pa about politics/DDS shit. As well as SJW and "pasikatin natin si kuya/ate" posts on fb. Ganda-ganda nung art sabay makikita mo ganun pinagpopo-post online. I'm sure if he reads this, he'll make a fuss about this on his fb timeline kek.

>sino ka baka mutuals tayo sa fb lmao
tangina, sus baka nga mamaya friends at magka-group pa tayo doon sa fb eh haha kek.

>>3350032
doesn't have to be red nose
his/her subjects screams lgbt and muh diversity