/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3340252
>>3340414
It was looking so good, then the painting in the background stole all the focus from your still life, shame.

Still trying to set up the color and lighting scheme. I think this looks better than the blue-green shadow under the hair. If I'm going to have cool light shining on her it should be warm shadows anyway right? I'm also considering making the parts laying on her cheeks not pressed up against her face and sticking out like a high collar instead.

>>3340680
still probably the best painting I've ever made.

Crits please.

>>3340693
Blog ?

>>3340931
is it supposed to be deeply unsettling

the colours look like a wikihow image.

I want feedback

Moon Man ballpoint pen on paper .

>>3340988
Alas, no. I know it's shit, I was just hoping for some pointers as to where I might be going wrong.

>>3341001
your colour choice, rendering style, and anatomy all need lots of work.

>>3341071

That's why i've never finished a painting, guess i don't have enough skills to finish. I'll painting simple things from now on

>>3341083
Work on your fundamentals my friend, you'll make it one day, but we all have to grind the shit out of the way first.

>>3341001
If this was 1994 or so, you could be a MTG artist.

>>3341159

Im close to finish this i guess

more weapon process shit

>>3341159
>>3341160

when you do studies, you should actually aproach it as a study.

Write these down on a piece of paper or a post it note and stick it next to your monitor:

What am I trying to improve/ study?

What is my goal with this study?

fill out those answers and constantly refer to them and keep yourself on track.

Not really a drawing but I'm really proud of this

>>3341204
y-you didn’t do anything

>>3341040
really edgy bro

>>3341205
Don't deny my happiness you fuck

>>3341180
didn't you say you were gonna spend a long time on this lol
you're like 20% done

Fuck hair tbqhwy

>>3341066
oh, the girl is supposed to be cute? i thought you were going for a goosebumps vibe
mostly it's freaky because of the mouth and the eyes. look at some cutesy disney/pixar stuff or rockwell/leyendecker. for example, de-emphasize the chin, make the teeth more a solid block with a bit less gum, and make the eyes....idk. something. the anime girl is cuter, although her collarbones don't seem to have any relation to her shoulders

>>3341300
that's a good drawing. and you probably know it yourself, but you actually didn't say "fuck hair" doing that, but you rather put it in the same manner as the rest. legit.

>>3341216
I've spent enough time with single piece already, gonna finish and come back to studies cuz this gonna make me better, not polishing stuff to perfect state.

>>3340630
>see draw challenge
>thread gets deleted within minutes
this board isn't slow afterall!

don't like how this turned out. on to the next

here's a monster

Boney dick

>>3341336

Thanks

Wip, lots of stuff to improve before adding further details.

>>3341393
I was really disappointed about that. I wanted to participate and see how it all played out. I wonder if maybe it got deleted because of the anime op picture and not the idea itself?

>>3341518
colors are too gray and muddy, use color to shadow, not gray

>>3341518
so fucking obvious you stole this from ruan lol

>>3341562
Wow, now I feel like a piece of shit. I'm doing this one >>3340693 and I didn't realize how close it is to that.
Shit, I was getting so excited about finishing it.

>>3341562
in a board like /ic/ where Ruan Jia reigns king, i doubt anon was trying to hide his influence

>>3341590
Keep working on it, you aren’t selling it and you’re still practicing.

Just like reference him for inspiration when you post it to your socials, and when some retard screams at you for art theft, just ignore him

quick thing from a /v/ draw thread

>>3341204
I don't get it.

I was gonna post my drawing here but the level of this thread is so low I'm embarrassed to be associated with it.

>>3341841
Yep. This shit is nearly all beginner thread spec

>>3341841
>>3341944

this =P

did a quick painting

>>3342002
beginner thread that's awful this is an 18+ board

I'm taking an hour break or so before moving on, what composition do you guys think is best?
They're sitting on a wall, with a town behind.
Thanks.

>>3341590
bullshit excuse my dude, you even rendered it in a shitty attempt of ruan.

my stuff...

>>3341180
check anatomy on the throat and sternum, give better structure to shoulders.

check perspective, judging by the lips and nose, the distant eye should be lower, and the distant shoulder should be higher, shoulders should be slanted the opposite way, actually... maybe, unless she's shrugging them in some way.

the light and color on the hair is nice

>>3342072
Did you mean this for the other guy? Mine is still in the block in phase I haven't started rendering it yet.
I admit though I was going to go for something Ruan inspired, I just didn't realize how close mine was to an actual picture of his.

>>3342067
I like the 4th one best.

>>3341459
is that mugi?
also you made the neck too long and muscly anf the key is way too long, and the nose needs more shaping

>>3341197

>>3341040
bro would you please grow up already

>>3342095
Thanks for input.

What do you think on composition? Is it stupid to put those men right at her head?
I want a feeling of a guarded princess, can't explain it better. The background will be in deep shadow.
Should I add the trunk in the foreground? Or the shadow from the tree will be enough? And maybe something else to enhance the feeling of prospective?

I'd appreciate any help.

>>3342172
I like the composition, filling that bottom left corner with the trunk might be okay: bounce the eye back into the composition. Or just a darker shadow.

Her arms are looking long, check proportions there.

>>3342172
>>3342179
Also, make the branch she's grabbing light to contrast w background.

>>3342180
Oh, that's a good idea! Thanks.

>>3341518
looks sick but the irises are a tad bright for being in shadow

>>3342109
this is baller as fuck, what's it for?

>>3342260
Nice, I like. Maybe the eyes are a bit far apart. Might be showing us a bit too much of the front plane of the torso.

Also, the (male) muscle plate on a hot chick is kinda jarring, but it might be intentional? Would've gone with a normal breastplate, myself.

>>3342264
the male plate was intentional, i thought it'd look cooler than it turned out though

Eyes lookin better?

>>3341590
Yours is fine. >>3341518 on the other hand...

This isn't mine, but is it good, composition wise?

Sorry if this is an inappropriate thread for such questions.

>>3342269
A little, but they're still just as far apart, but I could be wrong about that one.

I just noticed that the ear is really teeny and too far down.

>>3342288
Strange, looks bad in the thumbnail, which usually means bad composition, but when you look at the full image it looks quite nice.

Yeah I think these threads are meant to be your work only.

>>3342288
I'm trying to look at the composition but I opened it and now I can't stop barfing due to those tumblrcore faces. From the thumbnail I could tell that the left part of the painting was too empty, it could probably be cropped, though that would require the column to be moved otherwise it would end up in the dead center. Not that it would save it because of those repulsing faces holy shit. It's not even bad technically, but those faces why just why...

>>3342290
Maybe faces are playing a big role?
>>3342292
Is empty space always bad? Or just in that picture? if so, why? What feeling does it give?

I think such faces fit his style well. Anyway he doesn't draw them like that anymore.

>>3342292
I dunno, doesn't seem tumblry to me. However, the figure's face second from our left is fucked in general (soulless expression, features squinched together), plus I can't tell what he's grasping with those noodle fingers. Also, the girl's hand is lumpy + misshapen. Alsooooo, the way the tree shadow meets the sidewalk edge in the bottom left is messy. But I rather like it.

>>3342298
Yes, the faces, plus the light/dark edge in the value structure is quite complex, so the image needs to be bigger for it to work.

>>3342288
there's something about the values which feels odd, but i can't put my finger on it.

>>3341562
maybe they all stole it from the same ref

Critique on just the hair would be fine.

>>3342298
all that empty space and the way its colored gives it a bit of an ominous feel; like the the guys are planning to kill and/or rape her.

I spent 5 hours on this piece, any tips on how I could do it faster?

>>3342027
that was your drawing, right?
I think you need to start mixing your colors before you apply them to the canvas. the gray of the mountains is sort of dead and the greenish yellow doesn't really give a good, organic impression of the coast, same with the red/pink in the lower left. the color of the sea is also almost unmixed.

>>3342393

No, it is much.
A illustration like this you need able do in 1 ~ 2 hours.

>tips

Pay more attention in sketch, use pen tool and personalized brush.

starting on my own personal project that I was holding out on until i got better.
>>3342260
I'm just filling out weapon concepts into my portfolio, got offered a job where ill be illustrating a whole book of magic weapons recently, so i thought i should probably practice hahaha

Your piece is very rococo, keep it up, im keen to see it finished.

>>3341562
The more I look at the nose, the worse it gets

>>3342393

I know it's a bit of a cop out answer, but a lot of speed comes from repetition and experience. Once you get a familiar workflow things start to slot into place more efficiently.

Still, for a general tip: Work from big to small, and don't start adding in little details until you're very confident everything is where it needs to be. The better your sketch is before rendering, the easier / quicker rendering will be. Fixing rendered shit takes a lot longer, and sometimes you need to do things all over again. Some people are fine with problem solving like that during the rendering stage, but it's time consuming.

Work the whole image while rendering. That is to say, zoom in, work on something for a bit, zoom out and work somewhere else. It can be easy to get focused on one area until it's 'just right' and if you do that constantly you'll never be finished.

Also layers can make things really fast or really slow depending on how you handle them. Stupid amounts of time can be spend navigating haphazard layers and if you put something on the wrong layer it can be a bitch to fix. Personally I have a hotkey for create new layer and the one beside it for merge down, I tend to use 'temp layers' for specific things and then merge them down, though I might keep 'foreground - midground - background' for a painting or a separate line and color layer for a while. If you need to keep a lot of layers, have layer folders. Sometimes I'll duplicate layers and throw them in a 'backup' folder before merging things or making big changes, though, which can help if you really fuck something up.

how r these?

>>3342621

>>3342067
Updating, with what's probably the final image.

>>3342341
>maybe they all stole it from the same ref
I can't speak for the other guy but I didn't do it intentionally. I wanted to practice my coloring and rendering and I decided I would go for a sort of Ruan look but I didn't even look up any images I just sat there and tried to picture something and that's what I came up with. While I was working on it I had a feeling of familiarity but I thought it was something else. I thought she resembled Illyana Rasputin from X Men because of the blonde hair and style of bangs.
I'll just do what >>3341600 said and say it was inspired by Ruan since technically it was anyway.

>>3342656
Is that Gerard Way?

>>3342107
Thanks, yeah I was having trouble with the neck before I said fuck it gotta grind them fundies more I guess.

>>3342630
They are not very good. But keep at it and you'll get there.
I mainly think your construction needs work. Drawabox helped me out a lot with that, so it might be worth checking out.

Today's drawan

>>3342791
I thought drawabox was a meme.

>>3341590
it's nothing alike at all dude, christ they're both just blonde.

>>3342893
You should do a value check before you go further but diggin the thiccness

>want to actually learn
>just end up doing comfort zone doodles and then dropping it
how do stop??

>>3341518
no fine blending for skin or edge control , but its only practice ull get there ! keep up the good work !

>>3342689
fairly cool. soothing visual asmr infused with spacial feel

is hair notoriously tricky like hands, or do i just keep running into people who find it difficult?

>>3342921
take it easy on yourself anon. learning and self love go hand in hand

>>3342933
hair is difficult. is it difficult to block it in? no.

>>3342921
Give him liver spots and make his nose pointy and 3 times longer and title it "realistic mr burns"
Instant 100k views on tumblr, plebs eat that shit up

nyoka

Can I get a redline? I'm not entirely sure if the hand/shoulders look okay (my ref is just the head so I'm kinda screwed...) Thank you!

>>3343042
*Also wondering how I can improve the composition.

>>3343042
Try and find a ref for neck and shoulders. Her left trapezius looks odd and her right shoulder too tucked.

Some pointillist/post-impressionist portraits I'm working on.

This one is called "working class british housewife"

>>3343091
you post anywhere on social media?

>>3343091
"wormface pusshead"

>>3343094
yes: http://christianfrederiksen.tumblr.com/

>>3343095
"horrifying lizard woman"

>>3343096
"fisherman with retardation"

working on this rn, been a while since i used tablet since i spent last year getting my major, so trying to get back in painting/drawing rythm

didn't realize there was a new thread.

thumbnail of landscape, looking for crit I'm new to thumbnailing and stuff. Also: Any good brushes for impresionist artwork?

>>3342289
oh damn i see it now but it's already been posted

Thanks for the crits though, helps a lot!

quick study tonite

>>3342864
Everything is a meme

>>3342921
>>3342260
>>3342109
>>3341180
>>3340630


If your art isnt at least at this good/ okay tier level, please stop posting in this thread, and move back to the beginners thread.

If you weren't in the listed posts and have posted an image:
You people being here makes decent artists scared to be associated with the draw thread, and your ignorance of the basic fundamentals mean that you arent even able to critique others art effectively. Please leave. I'm not trying to be a crab, I just dont see you contributing anything meaningful here.

If i linked you, dont get a big fucking head, this is a weak thread, but you're all pearls in the shit

>>3343366
>quoted by this big of a crab
I feel fucking dirty

How do I get you banned?

>>3343366
these:
>>3342064
>>3343003
>>3343095
are all better than than these:
>>3341180
>>3342260

>>3343369
i'll give you
>>3343095

the other portrait is muddy af, and the other one is just a study

>>3343370
i'll also add this >>3342288 one to that first list and this >>3342109 one to the second list.

>>3343372
the first one's lighting is a little flat but ill give it to you, i like how he paints faces.
im also a sucker for odd fantasy weapons, so the second sticks is on my first list

but yeah, like, use the beginner thread people, please.

starting a new blog, thinking of this as an intro... thoughts?

>>3343374
>>3342807

>>3343366
my nigga youre on a 4chan art board

youll have to find me and kill my family before i start listening to you

or easier: become a mod

Ahahaha, I feel so bad for this gen. How did it become /beg/ central so quickly?

>>3343366
Now is the part where you post your work to prove your eye is good enough to make this kind of assessment.
Since you won't I'll go ahead and skip to the part where I ignore you.

>>3343366
post your work

>>3343362
damn. too real dawg.

>>3342027
dude, I kind of like it.

It's amateurish, but it isn't the bad kind, it's the good kind.

Certain areas give me this jolt of reality-feel. The clouds, the four layers (clouds, mountains, church and foreground), the green under the church, the purple/blue on the top left, the tiny bit of horizon bottom left. I like it! That being said, the whole of the picture doesn't give a good impression, although the colors work in a weird green/purple way. I think you can do something good eventually. The clouds are really good, already. Just noticed the outline on the mountains, is this Brian?

>>3343380
You're only this mad because your work wasnt quoted.

I mentioned it because these threads have taken a nosedive in quality, and people have too big of egos to post in the /beg/.

I honestly just want people to properly receive feedback that matters in a thread that should be at near professional levels.

>>3343384
>near professional
oof

>>3343384
dude I haven't even posted in this thread, but you're the exact kind of asshole who brings this board down to fucking abysmal levels.
You wanna talk shit? Go ahead. But have the balls to post your work or get off your fucking high horse. If you're near the level you think is required to deign to post in the drawthead then you have nothing to hide. If not, then I, and everyone else, will just assume you're shit and disregard everything you've said.

>>3343384
The kind of person who resorts to "u mad" as if it's a valid rebuttal to a request to prove they're qualified to judge where people should and shouldn't be posting, especially one as succinct and articulate as that one, does not have the sort of critical thinking skill to back up those assessments. Thank you for letting me know I was right to ignore you.

>>3343390
>>3343391
>trying to bring the board up by making sure the correct skill level gets the right help
>ruining the board

If you seriously cannot swallow your fucking pride and go to a different thread on an anonymous board,
you're not gonna fucking make it in ANY industry, let alone a competitive one like art. You gonna call an art director or a commissioner a crab when they dont like your shit and ree at them in the middle of a studio?

I wasn't even being that mean, just honest, and you fucking flip a shit. Grow up.
Fuckin kids these days

>>3343399
yeah, faggots who don't post their work are ruining the board.
you are the lowest of the low. I have more respect for furfags who post vore porn than I do for you. Post your work, and contribute to the discussion while putting yourself on the line for the criticism we are all looking for.

>one shitposter derails a general

the absolute state of ic

>>3343404
literally scrambling for reasons to be mad
hush child, it's okay

>>3343407
Real talk, I don't see how people can get so mad over >>3343366 unless their ego was somehow hurt, which in that case this board isn't for them. Report the post and move on, jesus.

>>3343414
i am
>>3343366
and this is what irks me.
Like what I did wasn't nice, but holy shit if you're on a critique board, put your ego to the side and be ready to admit your faults.
I genuinely did not mean to derail the thread, I had no idea the response would be so juvenile.

>>3343418
you're not offering anything though, and that's exactly what's wrong with ic right now. you offered no critique, you didn't tell anyone how to get better, you just told people to get out of the thread. Offer critique, if you'r gonna call it a critique board, but you're just shitposting. We don't need that.

>>3343420
fair call, I'll admit that.

>>3343421
so post your work or offer critique.
or, option three, take your own advice and get out.

>>3343428
Anon, you're really not doing any better. Just ignore him and move on.

>>3343433
critiqued his poem and gave him advice
8/10

>>3342588

>>3341300
update, guess I'll quit here
>>3341343
you're very kind lol
>>3343366
post your work

>>3343544
You might want some different values or even colour to make it easier to tell what's cloth and bone(?).

>>3343708
Keep practicing those planes, m8

>>3343323
Another

I hope it's not too bright, I have a shitty screen.

What could've been done better?

A or b?

>>3343800
or c?

>>3343798
The face is very soft and nice but c'mon, that hair is really lazy. Did you just decide to skip it?
>>3343323
>>3343759
These are lovely but I think you could work on the colors a bit. I can't tell because its a low res image or if your color picking isn't good. I'm not sure what it is about it, it just feels very dull for some reason.

>>3343806
>The face is very soft and nice but c'mon, that hair is really lazy. Did you just decide to skip it?
Yes.

>>3343544
I like the general shapes but i'm not a fan of those tiny floating wings.

>>3343722
Just using this as a guide for my silhouette, will be repainting and rendering the whole creature today.
>>3343834
Yeah, they are a little delicate

I'm back to working on this.
Do these colors and this light and shadow setup all look okay?

>>3343969
Fuck, forgot image.

Latest WIP, I will move on to cleaning up the eye area after a having a smoke

>>3343974
I would’ve waited for a later stage to add secondary lighting but I’m guessing you’re mocking up to get your palette down. Color pick you base colors and lay them next to each other, really depends on what you’re going for but all that cool makes her face look really warm if hats what you want.

>>3343976
K Stew?

>>3343802
A or C. I would go with A for a finished piece, but with additional contours/hatching for the tomatoes for consistency. Right now, the pot in the middle stands out as the point of interest because it's the most detailed object.
C could look better if there was less grain in the shaded areas.

>>3343982
>I’m guessing you’re mocking up to get your palette down
Yes this. All the light and shadows are on separate layers so when I start trying to render it I can still take it step by step, but to avoid it getting muddy and weird like my paintings often do I want to have a plan.
I don't know if I necessarily want her to look too warm. I like how it makes her face stand out but if it looks jarring I'll change it. There are places where I haven't really painted the colored light on her that it should be, which will probably cool her down more. But do you think I should adjust something now?

>>3343974
Try to use green-grayish tones for the face shadows. That way you could reduce the relative warmness of the face, make the light more consistent and have a more coherent colour scheme.
Even if this is just a mock, right now, the hair looks as if it's from a different head. Zoomed out it doesn't read badly, but up-close it's really obvious.

>>3343998
That sounds good, I'll try it out. Thank you.

Starting out with color and light.

>>3343991
Depends on what you’re going for with the character IMO. Great art tells a story and the story in getting is she’s some kind of tropical magical princess like Nadia or that girl from disney’s Atlantis. This is entirely subjective of course and based on my experiences and tastes, but I feel the warm sunkissed face with blonde hair gives a tropical vibe, like a surfer chick.

Oh that pain of drawing a perfect body and then realizing the character is heavily clothed...

>>3344003
Haha, tropical settings are my favorite, I wonder if it bled into this. I definitely wanted to go for a magical princess/queen vibe but I think I better make her paler. I want her to seem a little evil, so it would probably work better if she looked like she didn't get much sun.
At the same time this is just a color and painting exercise so if I don't get it perfect it's fine. But I'll use it to learn as much as I can.

>>3343793
porfect

>>3344001
I'd say there's a bit of fighting (compositionally) between the two light sources, maybe make the warrior less prominent. Or, make the warrior more prominent and the statue more subtle. If you go the second route, I'd say the guy is crammed too far down, maybe add more floor beneath him.

As far as the rendering goes, the figure obv needs the most refinement, but I'd say the statue is basically done, maybe just some detailing on the flame and the face here and there.

This is dope, the texture is really nice.

20 minute study of the face from class today
wish the pose were longer so that i could have taken it further

>>3344100
I'm fucking gay

>>3344001
It's just dawning on me how fucked up that statue is.. is it from something? It's like a warrior tranny clown: big tits, bowties in his hair, and a giant stone cock with a flame on the end.

I WANT TO BE A PRETTY BABYBYYYY

>>3343992
nice reflections

new landscape

>>3344229
BABYYYYY PRETTY A BE TO WANT I

>>3344100
lovely edges

>>3344229
>>3344246
Jace please take your meltdown elsewhere.
Preferably to a psychologist.
This thread is for art and critique ffs.

>>3342689
Client requested some changes.. hehe.
Yall think it's better, or worse? I'd say worse, but it's not supposed to be so ominous/moody.

something

>>3344282
I can understand that the client wanted it to be brighter. It looks kinda pale now, though

>>3344282
If the theme is forging peace, why are they talking with faces in the shadow?

>>3343176
Hah, cute pencil

>>3344253
lol random rambling is better critique than any of you fucks can provide.

>>3340630
A quick paint

>>3343369
shit taste

>>3344282

it looks great, like something you'd totally see in TIMES or the economist, but personally i'd bump up the contrast a little more

>>3344296
Good point. I sacrificed that a little for the sake of prettiness. I toyed around with full sunlight hitting them, but this was better compositionally.

>>3344431
Thanks, yeah that's about halfway between how it looked initially and now.

Okay I think the colors are much better now thanks to you guys and some ctrlpaint videos.

>>3344352
lol... when are you gonna just stop drawing? im eagerly waiting for the day when you stop posting here.

>>3344535
Why so crabby?

>>3344535
You have waited for five years?

Lel

>>3344535
the fucks wrong wih you

>>3343366
quoted and the beginner's thread is a dumb concept d e s u

>>3344548
smooth comeback

>>3344535

Post work

>>3343369

Same level, different taste...

>>3343375

Stop treating /beg/ as dumpster. That shit belongs somewhere else.

>>3344538
>>3344548
>>3344577
hi firez, i actually want to know what goes through your mind to make something as shitty as that. why are you so blinded by your shitty style? your rendering is just so fucking muddy, i am disgusted by everything you draw.

>>3344606
Hey.
Go draw.

>>3344535
>>3344606
Says a lot more about you than it does him

>>3344662
refer to >>3343366

>>3344621
>faggot anime poster
same for you.

>>3340630
Current one, how can I give more dimension?

i still can't figure out how to render without it looking like a dirty blob without linework.

Should i get Scott Robertson's book on how to render or is it just a meme?

>>3344704
lol normalfag exposed

>>3344704
crabbin real hard today bruh, just work on yourself, seriously. maybe you need to take a break, get rid of frustration, but all this negativity isn't good for your work.

>>3344713
Just blend the lines in, be sure to keep a somewhat firm edge where it's needed. The ass should also use some more blending, edge is too hard along the terminator.

>>3344713
some of your choices are reading well, but not well for the anatomy. it pretty much comes down to:
>hard edge: hard brush
>curved form: soft brush
and the gradient of change shows the fullness of the form.
the lower back muscles aren't that developed near the tailbone, you're just rendering what you think is there.

>>3344721
>>3344719

true, i should either study up anatomy again or stop going in blind start using reference images. Thanks for the advice

>>3344721
also, since you're having issues with lines, there are a couple of things that happen that make our minds see lines:
the values/hues actually match, but it's actually our mind connecting lines we know should be there (this is the hardest case, because optically, we can't see it and it's real easy as an artist to just overtly state the line since we know that there should be a physical division between forms)
and the other case is a change in value and hue, if it doesn't look right in this case, you might be missing a cast shadow/reflected light, etc.

>>3344736
stay in /beg/

Any crits welcome.

I was trying out new brushes while drawing, I've been having trouble with line-art so I've been using the smoother for photoshop. Any critique is fine and welcome.

>>3344747
Looks good.

>>3344748
>>3344747
you just replied to yourself.
Still though.


Looks good

>>3344749
I did.

tonights sketch

>>3344352
this is cool
>>3344535
lol you couldn't sound more insecure

>>3344736
colours don't have much unity

>>3344744
work on ear placement some. it goes from eyebrow to bottom of the nose.

>>3344747
learn how to resize

What do you think of this armor design?

This piece was inspired by dark souls and I'm currently experimenting on proportions.

>>3344830
it's pretty cool, but a few things going forward.
work on your linework, work on more dynamic posing, and work on pushing those proportions consistently like the artists in dark souls do.

>>3344705
>>3344662
>>3344747
please for the love of all that's good read the sticky it's like you want us all to get cataracts from how shitty your "work" is

>>3343544
just paintsploring helmets after a long day at uni

>>3344931
My only suggestion rn would be to up the contrast, but you're obviously not done.

>>3344990
yeah, i could tell the darks werent where i wanted them to be yet, cheers though, much appreciated

>>3344929
let's see your "shitty" work then too friend

>>3344931
amp up ur warms and cools just a tad man

>>3345019
you're tiring

>>3345044
and yet no work, shame.

>>3344713
>how to render without it looking like a dirty blob without linework
In my experience it's very hard to avoid that look by simply turning off the line layer. It's much easier to create a new layer on top of the line work and continue painting. In the process the lines that aren't needed will naturally get concealed, and the ones that were important can be emphasized in various ways (hard edge, sharp value jump, etc).

If you approach it that way, you could lower the opacity of the line layer first, but I don't think that's needed most of the time. I'd personally opt to first darken the lines for the hair before painting on top.

Try looking towards artists you like that have a similar subject matter to what you're working on, place it side by side with yours and critically judge what they're doing differently. Part of their final product is dependent on their workflow, but a lot can be emulated from whatever starting block you're more comfortable with.

>>3344931
>>3343544
>>3342588
what's your project about?

>>3342393
understand the choices you made that work and choices you made that you had to redo. what brush selections worked well, etc. looks like you're pillowshading some areas and consistently using a medium hardness brush. varying hardness, opacity, size appropriately saves time.

>>3344713

selections and soft brushes, try it out. it works especially well for skin

>>3344773
Thanks, also thanks to the other anons. <3

I think I will try to fix some more before painting it. I wish kerillian had at least some inkling of pupils

Thanks, also thanks to the other anons. <3

I think I will try to fix some more before painting it. I wish kerillian had at least some inkling of pupils

>>3345435
is she getting fucked by a mole rat?

>>3345242
The sun of this world was their god,
The god died and his blood fell to the earth, and the world was shrouded in eternal night.
The people of the world found that the blood of the dead god could be burned similarly to magnesium, but with a much slower burn, and with magical properties.
Eating the blood gems grants you the ability to cast spells, but also slowly corrupts you with radiation if go don’t have the correct protective armour.
The “knightly” force of nobility has this armour, which is itself imbued/ lined with the god’s ichor. (Which costs more than a medium sized castle in their world)

It’s their job to hunt those who go savage after abusing a hunger for the blood and power.

Basically a whole plot following a group of these knights, and then the backplot is that another one of the “god’s” species smells the blood, and wishes to consume the planet and remains of the dead being.

Super early in the process but it’s a fun way to foll out a portfolio.

done trying to make sculpture threads, so I'm just gonna post it here

>>3345555
and I also made this little fella

>>3340931
I’m robotripping and this sent me into a bad trip damn

>>3344813
>work on ear placement some
Yeah... I noticed that after I posted it honestly but thank you for taking time to point that out.

Any crits welcome on this one as well.

I know they shadows are inconsistent but I believe because its the statue of David that its being lit from two different directions. I chose the most prominent shadows.

3 yearsss I think i traced the old

I'm trying to paint straight into colour as colour is a real weak spot for myself, this is the progress so far but I feel like the colours are way too muddy?

Any tips to fix muddiness?

>>3345725
stop using muddy colours, push yourself to push the colour limits and stop playing it safe, or you wont learn anything

>>3345725
This>>3345746
And use higher opacity and also pick higher saturation for darks, greys and blacks in your shadows can give a muddy feeling. Also limit your color palette when possible

today

>>3345753
my favorite part is how huge it is

>>3343976
anakin?

>>3345769

>>3345769
Lol thanks.

>>3345725
Pay attention to your saturation, edges, and contrasts. Missing the ball on the three of them creates muddy looking images. Also note that I didn't introduce new colours to your image, just amped up the saturation.
Honestly right now I suggest you start your paintings in black and white and then move to colour. Will help you focus on values and colour separately while you get used to using the two of them.
I included the black and white version so that you can see that the contrast in values on the face makes it a focal point, with the sword as a secondary focal point.

Also obviously the saturation is very exaggerated but like the previous anons said you should push yourself to the limit first and then once you've learned to control that, tone it back a bit where you see fit.

>>3345693
don't bullshit the hair

welp

>>3345910
kept working on it

>>3343323
you're lacking in composition skills. avoid tangents and keep interest out of the corners of your paintings until you know when you can. in the first image almost everything the viewer wants to see is almost off the left side of the page.

i picked out two pages from a book called landscape painting essentials by johannes vloothuis

>>3345995
is it supposed to be a black guy?

>>3345995
this is great!

Has anybody else had trouble with "overthinking" a drawing?

For the past 5 or so years I've noticed that I've been thinking more and more about the more technical aspects of a drawing, like the anatomy and proportions and staying on-model and whatnot. While that on its own isn't a bad thing, I seem to be thinking about it too much and forget that drawing is supposed to be """"fun"""" and to let shit flow out naturally. Basically I've become an extreme perfectionist to the point where I'm strangling my own drawing capability and not getting anything done.

I've found that the less I think about the drawing and the more I just fucking draw, the more fun I have with the drawing and the more satisfied I am with the end-result. It feels like when I deliberately shut most of my brain off, things come out better and that just seems very strange to me.

Maybe I just need to fucking chill, but at the same time I worry that my drawing skills will get worse if I DON'T think about the more technical aspects enough.

painting of the paintings in my basement. this was particularly stressful to make

>>3344931

>>3346147
I've had this problem. Sometimes if I find something I'm drawing is too stiff and dead or has other problems it helps if I erase it, maybe leaving a faint trace of it and draw it over again. It's a pretty good way to get a looser and more fun version of it.

trying to get back into painting

>>3345753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdLBGJ4wjFA

probs be better off watching this whole series.

>>3346167
limit your squiggling

>>3346172
I guess I have trouble getting my value transitions down with more solid strokes. Maybe it comes down to brush selection? I can never seem to find brushes that I'm satisfied with

>>3346174
I tend to fall for some brushes but then after the honeymoon is over go back to hard round and soft round. Your workflow seems pretty good but maybe fall back to a big soft round on low flow to transition some values. Also seems like you could use more occlusion shadows in the crevice-like areas. Would make it a lot more 3d.

>>3346179
I'll try that, thanks

>>3346167

The area between his hair and hand needs work and his hair needs a smoother render.

I think your piece is largely unfinished, put in an hour or two to make it more presentable.

>>3346208
I'll put some more time into it tomorrow, thanks for the feedback. I find that the finishing stages on a piece usually give me the most grief

>>3344096
>>3344103
this was painted over a 3D render, i think from How to Train Your Dragon.

>>3346235
Awe, this makes it seem less good. But the results are what counts.

Anon should redesign the little knight, looks dumb in the render.

>>3346168
Thanks anon.

>>3346118
Yup, I'm not home rn, but will continue later. Please do a full crit so I can fix it. Thanks
>>3346129
What did you like, what you did not like?

>>3340630
1. Am I over rendering?

2. Should I increase the contrast between the biceps and the abdomen?

>>3346419
I can barely understand the image.

Is it someone doing dips?
Have you planned for the hand?
Isnt the waist too thin? It gives me the feeling that the perspective is warped.
Also the elbow is too sharp.

Can I see the reference?

drew this on site today. Didn't finish, cause my dog was cold.

>>3346425

Yeah It is someone doing dips, and I have planned in the hand. Ive been wondering that myself as well, should I move it over?

ref attached

power went out last night and I did this before the laptop battery died

>>3346434
i like it, good job anon

>>3346465
thank you, friendo

>>3346167
lovely stuff m8, I actually like the hatching but it's a matter of preference. Recently Ive achieving a more controlled hatched look with texture brushes set to multiply/overlay mode, does wonders for me. Pushing the ao with the aid of the selection tool would make this piece even better.

>>3344747

Could someone help me with this position? Here's a general idea of how I want it to look but it's fucked badly. Im almost embarassed to even put it here but Im struggling

>>3345461
Hmmm..Thanks I will try to make it a little less rapey.

The rat is supposed to be a skaven a Warhammer fantasy race

For this one I'm trying to make an afternoon half shadow for the scene, but I can't find for the life of me a good reference that shows how dark or cool the bottom part.

>>3346655
firez what the fuck

>>3346655
iirc there's a section in Color and Light that covers this kind of lighting scheme

WIP fanart , Balanar from Dota 2 , very pleased with how its turning out its going much faster than Devilman I posted a thread ago and I see improvements that I made by finishing that one , hope I can keep improving , once again OG file size around 8k so its much crisper than this upload

>>3345995
You made the lips look worse, its okay to go off-reference as long as you understand what youre doing

>>3346796
Her hands start too high. A good rule of thumb for that is lining up where the wrist ends and palm begins with the bottom line of the crotch. Fingertips extended should reach about halfway down the thigh.

still trying to learn how to paint, just getting some practice in. Nowhere near done with this one yet.
Any help, any at all would be appreciated; what exercises should I be doing? what videos should I be watching? what books should I read?

>>3346846
Yeah, I noticed the stumpy arm looked off.

>>3345816
Thank you, I apprreciate the feedback.

>>3346167

Worked on this some more. Focused on hitting the issues that anons called out

>>3346947
check out Color and Light by Gurney

new portrait

>>3347091

Great stuff, try adding a vignette to make the viewer's eye focus on his face

>>3346839
>>3345995


Thanks for the feedback.
Update

>>3340630
NEW THREAD

>>3347270
>>3347270
>>3347270

>>3347091
Blog?

>>3347091
nice. when you're using soft brush, i'm not sure if you went for a blur or not on the hand. get used to making a new layer for soft brush work, erasing the parts you don't need with a hard eraser, and then merging that down. it's the nature of digital when you can only achieve smoother transitions by cutting away the parts you don't want with an eraser. or use the selection/lasso to only paint in that area yet still use long strokes.