/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

From last thread.

Any crits would be helpful! Especially related to painting and colours

stopping on this. was a good practice

>>3332360
i think the red isn't so good. i know probably that's like the whole point but i think it kills the actual figures somewhat. so here is the same thing in a cool black. the painting as a whole probably isn't any more to your taste but perhaps you can see the figures become more prominent. apart from changing the background you could really go hard on the colors in the figures instead.

>>533923
:eyes:

>>3332422
I definitely see what you mean, and your edit looks better.
I just wanted to have this strong background colour to give the piece some attitude.

Do you (or anyone) know about artists that work like that but where the subjects still keep their wight, so that I might figure out some solutions?

Thanks to everyone here who helped me with this drawing. I know he's still sort of expressionless but at this point I don't care. Thought I should share the final version here.

>>3332401
I think this can be pushed more by looking at the human planes of the face. attached is a suggestion. nice little orc tho

>>3332360
I think the red can work nicely. Just need to define some shapes better. the shadow shapes have the same patterns as the ones that are in the light. I would choose one to be sharper than the other

>>3332503
>the shadow shapes
I'm not sure if I understand the terminology. Could you explain it?
(sorry)

>>3332503
man you made the goblin pretty. still looks great. I wanted to go for a more gaunt, less human face. I appreciate the crit, I never get enough of them.

i'll need to keep working on painting out the planes etc

>>3332515
yeah sry I changed the design but hopefully it can stull help.

>>3332515
I would make the form in the lights have a harder edge. now u have that nice contrast between the hard light and the soft shadows. cool image btw

posted this in the last thread but it died so hey here I am rock you like a hurricane baby wooooooo

>>3332519
neato, i always feel like erasing people's faces but i end up not doing it because it seems like such a rip off of francis bacon and just such an easy idea in general. but clearly it's pretty effective.

anyway i particularly like the reflections, composition is pretty rad too. thematically pretty great also.

>>3332526
ooh, that looks amazing! Thank you!
I'll definitely try it out later

>>3332541
No you won't.

>>3332519
love this

>>3332499
Looks like a girl trying to draw guys, but makes them look gay.

>>3332561
ya figured me out

>>3332546
o-okay :(

>>3332503
use hard brushes.

Added some colour to >>3331470. Still not sure what to do about the mouth or the hair.

>>3332529
very nice, I think you could add some hints of more saturated colors where the form turns. Another thing that would be cool is if we could see some strokes going under the items across. Would give more solidity to the table. The comp is not so great, but very nice colors

>>3332499
you really need to use more reference, its a nice effort, but its not working right now. issues with pretty much everything atm

>>3332422
red looked better imo, especially if there's to be text or something in the big empty space

>>3332795
>"It is entirely seemly for a young man killed in battle to lie mangled by the bronze spear. In his death all things appear fair."

T. Homer

First time working with digital colors and values, need to better my anatomy to get a better understanding of shadows and organic looks

>>3332804

FJ cruisin

>>3332528
you found photoshop filters. grats.

>>3332849
better and not 3mb version

Some kind of gesture pose warm up things.

nutha one

>>3332894
dunno much about cars but... is this okay?

>>3333191 Could be the suspention on the car if it is a Road that changes in Height alot.

>>3332783
>issues with pretty much everything atm
go on

Drew these recently, wanna get a sanity check, do they look okay? I am working with Michael Hamptons Anatomy Book, and I'm trying to use his method for figure drawing, these are all from reference.

1/2

>>3333305

2/2

birthday present for a friend. i've been staring at this picture for so long i can't objectivelylook at it anymore (is there a term for this?)

please point out everything that is wrong/could be better, anons

>>3333307
Dick and balls in bottom left

>>3333191
Yeah off road suspensions are meant to do that to compensate for terrain. Not sure if the FJ cruiser’s that soft but jeeps definitely go that extreme. If there’s power to all four wheels it makes sense to have them all touching.

>>3332499
I think the actor is a bit more barrel chested, but it’s aight if this is fujoshibait.

>>3332519
Philipa?

>>3333419
well aside from the sloppy rendering, you have two images of dudes, where the guy to the side has their head cut off, which is weird on so many plans. And what is the story? does the singer flirt with the guy sitting randomly with the can? i dont get it. Nonetheless, better than most shit u see here on IC

tear it apart

>>3333516
face is competent, nice

torso is too long is biggest issue, foot is also long and has no shoe sole, silhouette would work better if we could see other foot, the white highlights on suit little nothing to do with lighting of figure- look at some kirby or mignola to consider different ways you could do it.

>>3333551
interesting you thought the torso was too long
after I finished the sketch I thought it was his right arm that was too short
I agree with the other foot part, if I lower his knee a bit the foot should appear
I don't know much about the lighting part, it's just to accentuate the shapes of the body, I did it kind of willy-nilly

>>3333516
DeviantArt tier.

>>3333569
thanks pal

Trying to speed up my construction process.

Finished

Or as finished as it'll get.

met this girl on tinder

>>3333684
construction is a meme

>>3333772
did you clap those cheeks bri bri?

>>3333466
Yeah i realized that this morning. I got like mega tunnel vision. and ignored that 3 wheels were entirely compressed and one was sagging down to the ground. That and the right light is sagging.

FJs were meant to compete with jeeps so their suspension is pretty soft, but I dont think even a jeep would look like that.

>>3333797
Nope lol

>>3333772
Do tinder sluts readily pose for cheap?

>>3333841
if by cheap you mean for free, no. I got lucky. She's awesome.

>>3333772
I would’ve swiped left 2bh

>>3333869
Jokes on you I always swipe yes

>>3333872
if you're that desperate, have you considered just being gay?

>>3333894
Jokes on you I'm already gay

What do you think of my thing

When I do the 3D model it will have more explosives. Just don't want to cover her with accessory just yet.

>>3333947
>colours
Extinguish your existence

>>3333954

Well, I *thought* I had a nice Crab going here, but it you, sir, have me beat!

>>3334199
Tear my drawing apart thanks.

>>3334201
>lemao hey guys, pls tear apart my drawing XDD

>>3334208
Thank you.

>>3333772
those tattoos are nauseating

made bourdain look like kramer

>>3333845
where is skin?

I really want to learn to do splash art like Riot and Blizz have.
I'm hoping to achieve something at or at least close to the level of this https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/003/348/828/large/alex-flores-arcadeahri-alexflores.jpg?1472712481 a year from now. Right now I'm aiming for something like this https://na.leagueoflegends.com/sites/default/files/styles/scale_xlarge/public/upload/lux-elementalist-banner.jpg?itok=WSuS1VQr before July.
Thoughts on this picture so far and whether I need to adjust those time frames?

does anyone know how to quickly swap between brushes on photoshop?

>>3334405
it's a good start dude. the perspective needs some serious work, neither of those feet look particularly planted on their surface for example. but that timescale is unrealistic. those pictures you posted have colour, perspective, values, rendering, photoshop jui-jitsu, do you already have those under your belt? we can't tell from the drawing

WTF happened to the draw thread? I came to /ic/ around 2015 and there were actually decent works in it. Now what I see is /beg/ tier and /beg/ itself somehow became worse.

>>3333772
you probably shouldn't have drawn the tats on, they're an identifying feature.

>>3334444
post your work and up the standard

>>3334434
you use shortcuts for "next brush and "last brush". you can also have the brush windows constantly showing in your panels. i prefer just using right clicking image and choosing it from list tho. remember to keep favorites at the top.

>>3334452
>you probably shouldn't have drawn the tats on, they're an identifying feature.
she posted it to her personal insta so I think it's fine. hopefully this leads to more nude models cause she'll tell her friends I'm chill.

>>3334444
Yeah, I've also felt that it has gotten worse.
Not that one can blame the shitty artists for it tho. It's the good ones that need to start posting their shit.

>>3334444
>>3334640
when people start getting good, they leave this place and only lurk and shitpost.

>>3334515
Did he just lock on to me?

>>3334515
Going from orange to red to green on the left side of his face is incredibly unharmonious. You are mixing up your color theories. I'd recommend studying Gauguin and van Gogh's work to get a better idea of the different ways you can transition from one color to another

>>3334434
Yeah, I had wanted to make a separate thread for this so I could do a small art dump to give a better idea of where I am. I really don't want to do that in here so I guess the wips will have to serve that purpose.
I don't have all that stuff down 100% so I'm doing this in hopes that with direct comparisons to what I'm trying to achieve I'll be able to see and /ic/ will help me see the places I'm falling short so I can work on them.
Next I'm adding tones to this one, hopefully that'll help me see the forms better and correct the perspective too.

>trying to learn how draw females like
fucking hell. maybe studying body parts (especially legs) will make them look better. if i knew girls are harder i would've started with them

>>3334669
basically. they get their new industry bros to crit their stuff instead

i still don't know what the fuck I'm doing

might be too messy. her face is supposed to be half made of branches and flowers are coming out of it. dont want to go and render it and find out in two hours that it doesnt work

>>3334967
that's really good

>>3335107
its a study

>>3335107
it's by craig mullins, the original anyway

>>3335111
>>3335112
i think he knows that.

>>3335122
i didnt

>>3332962
Shit dude thats dope. You got an artstation?

>>3333684
That’s a midget, sonny
>>3335059
Cute
>>3334967
Quality rendering, color and value etc. Needs more texture though. Everything looks like a dull plastic

>>3334681
It’s supposed to be unnerving though, and their use of color kind of works with it. I agree it could be more sophisticated for sure

I made this from imagination
Inspired by frazetta and a pic saw.
This is original and not a study

My main concern here was to render without getting the plastic look, I can render but it looks kinda technical, or mechanical. I, trying to get good brush strokes and texture. What do you think I did good and what I did wrong?
Sorry if the pic is too big.

Tried a different lighting angle than I usually do

dunno why i did this desu

>>3335495
wow just realized I need to calibrate my tablet monitor

>>3332348
What am I missingto draw good gestures?

Detaling wings for devilman

Just a simple work in progress thingy

>>3335570
if you draw a quick drawing of the model, and afterwards you understand what her body is saying, then you've done a good gesture.

My construction is shit tier but I was focused more on rendering here.

>>3335570
they're not bad exactly anon. do some more with different poses and try to find the line of action

>>3335183
not him, but how do you add texture? is it a seperate thing like the files on texture sites, or is it just in the brushwork?

>>3333940
Nice, I like it. Been considering doing some lovecraftian style stuff myself.

>>3335455
Diggin' the angularity.


Finished this yesterday.

>>3335620
colors kill it for me, but looks kinda good I guess.

>>3334681
thanks for the tips, good observation.

>>3335572
Can you post the full thing? It looks like it'll be something great.

Color study. I'm so used to working in B&W and coloring stuff later so this was a hard one for me. I also never really realized how hard it is to draw a persons facial features when there is no main light on their face. Interesting stuff...

>>3335824
Sure when Im finished

>>3336033
Itas awsome , were on the same boat i guess Im doing my first color piece since doing 2monts of only bw value studies, feels like they helped a lot now we just gotta grind that color theory

>>3336033
gib reference

>>3336048

There. Just realized my values (among other things) are all fucked up as I opened it in Photoshop. I always keep my reference on my other monitor and it's not calibrated...

>>3335620
It's hard to look at because there's nothing to focus on, nothing is allowed to stand out.

i did it, what think?

>>3336033
Bane?

>>3332348
think I should remove the grandpa. or atleast make him smaller and move him to the side.

>>3336119
Holy kek that's good

>>3334405
Do you have any blog? Liking your drawing and I want to follow your progress

>>3332519
actually really cool stuff

>>3336185
>>3336185
JohnnyUtah?

>>3334434
>>3334519
thanks, i'll try out the keyboard shortcuts. i'm trying to have more hard edges and such.

>>3336119
Unironic 10/10 condom commercial.

>>3334301
god i hate this faggot i swear to god everytime hes in a dangerous country i hope he gets knifed so he truly learns the beauty of some cultures, fucking pretentious french cunt

>>3334967
maybe you should mention its a study because most of these newfags dont know the original piece by mullins.

>>3334301
Sushi, Jerry! As far as the eye can see! Giddy up.

Update on
>>3332148

A little better this time, but still not great.

>>3335620
Organize values more so buildings in the thumbnail reads more clearly.

>>3335570
draw from live models, 3 min poses on 18x24 from the shoulder after a beer or two. I swear, do it a couple times, it'll help.

painted this

Working on this for long time, is there something i missed and should be fixed? Some thoughts would be nice to read too.

foxmage doodle
might color it

>>3336871
overall i think this is really nice. My critique would be that the fabric of the shirt on the right side looks lower and less stiff than the fabric on the left.

also the ear is slightly too far out and angled forward somewhat

>>3336845
what's your technique for identifying shapes? it's really good

>>3336871
greater depth with value variation in the neck to chin area maybe, hard brushes at some of the planes you'd expect to be sharper

This is so boring but i dont wanna give up on it... Help.

Also, somebody has a pinterest board or something with digital painting excercises?

>>3336914
how long did it take you that you don't want to give up on it? if more than 5 minutes, try doing it again faster. what was going to happen in the bottom 2/3rds?

>>3336918
Sadly 20-30 min

I thought of making a desert but composition isnt interesting.

playing around with new workflows

>>3336922
suggest reading Color and Light by James Gurney

>>3336926
I follow the man on Instagram. I'm downloading the pdf thanks.

>>3336263
hell yeah Johnny Utah!

>>3336931
Specifically chapters 8, 9, and 10 for your current work, I think it could help you out immensely. The top 3rd works well as you may realize, especially as a far background piece. Those chapters help you realize why it reads well, and how to differentiate for a different depth and environment in the bottom areas of the painting using saturation, contrast, and edges.

>>3336908
I've just done a lot of direct observation drawing, also a few traditional 40-hour cast drawings. Not sure if you're serious though, seems like I lost a lot of the form/made it too busy in the last step

>>3336863
did more to it

>>3332529
that's good, needs a dark blue somewhere.

process shit

>>3332529
How do you paint wet into wet without muddying the color on your brush? Do you just clean it and pick up more paint for each stroke?

And how much solvent do you use? If I use none my paint is too thick and the colors dull, but use it liberally and i've got shit running everywhere (but tge chroma is toasty)

>>3336926
Not him but I ordered the book like a week ago. Can't wait for it to arrive.

>>3337061
this paintings a bit more complicated than that

I used an absorbant ground first. It's cotton canvas with one layer of thin, sanded gesso. The medium for most of the painting is just paint thinner. I did one very thin layer of watery oil paint over a pencil drawing so it would absorb into the gesso. I made sure that the colors of the first layer were more mid-tones with nothing particularly dark.

Then once that dried in about 15 minutes (since most of the paint had soaked into the gesso) I did another layer on top of paint mixed with a small amount of linseed oil/turpentine (about 3 linseed for every 1 turp in the mixture). I did that layer more chromatic, but to keep the muted effect I added small amounts of white or yellow to the paint to dull the colors a bit.

If you want something that looks like my painting I'd recommend stretching your own canvas because pre-stretched canvases tend to be a bit plasticy, while cotton or linen you buy yourself can actually absorb paint when gessoed, and you can water down oils with as much solvent as you want, it'll just make the paint absorb faster.

>>3337061
also, this painting >>3336863
>>3337038
was done on pre-stretched canvas, and you can see how the solvent runs down the canvas in the first layer. As long as you know it's going to do that, and know how to make that look good, solvent running isn't necessarily a bad thing. But I do recommend linseed oil if you don't want the paint to run because that'll make it flow without literally making your paint a liquid. Only reason I didn't do that for the landscape painting is cause I didn't have any linseed oil left or I would've. It really makes your life easier with pre-stretched canvases.

>>3337052
Damn that looks cool.

>>3335170
I have a tumblr if that's fine
http://nilefar.tumblr.com/

>>3336185
removed the old guy.

also should I chance the background for the sword guy?

>>3336119
10/10

>>3334611
>she'll tell her friends I'm chill
thats good because she definitely wont tell them your a good artist.

>>3336119
>good goy
over-population really only applies to 3rd world countries.
this would make more scene if the couple where from Zimbabwe, in where condom commercials are needed for both matters of aids and parent-less children.

>white couples are the least of the problem that this needs to be directed to, in fact white populations are on a downward trend world wide.

>inb4 back to /pol/

>>3337462

WTF is this supposed to be? Looks like a Jazza trying to do a Sinix study...

>>3337493
idk who jazza is, but I do watch a lot of Sinix, t'is true.

>>3337521
Sinix has like a 3 video long piece where he has a very similar composition

where'd i go wrong

>>3337539
the painting faces video right? that was an awesome series.

didn't go for that composition but it did turn out very similar.

need some help picking a design for these witches guys

>>3337590
First one is my fav. the dress is most fitting.

I drew this. does it look ight?

>>3337038
thumbnail looks nice but not so much up-close, I think the major forms need to be a bit more defined and maybe be a bit more cohesive.

also not a fan of the overuse of dripping paint or the cartoonish silhouettes, other than that I like your palette and confident strokes

>>3337590
I like B but don’t really feel the boob window.

>>3337038
wow ur not improving at all.

>>3337590
i mean you can also design something that isnt completely evolving around showing full naked legs, but ok

>>3337590
I like the third one the best but..

why do the clothes hug her body so tightly? I understand if this is concept art aimed at the video game market but if not, I don't get why you'd limit yourself.

>>3337052
Really nice, but some parts of it like the holes on the blade and where it breaks in the middle don't follow the perspective.

>>3336871
Proportions are a bit off, and I'd suggest having the light scattering be a bit more noticeable or up the contrast, right now it feels like her face is blending in with her neck.

>>3335620
There's too much going on. If you cropped the image so it was just the left half it could have a good composition.

The rendering is alright but it would shine all the more if the construction beneath it was sharper.Still definitely a piece where you can learn a lot so good stuff.

>>3337590
>>3337598
>>3337609

it's for this illustration(sorry about the shitty thumbnail).Well my goal was to portray them naked(like in the movie "The Witch") but that really doesn't show any actual design making the piece less interesting.Having nudes on a portfolio is also not the best of ideas.
Well sex appeal plays a big part in it. I want the clothes to be partially made of bones and sticks,organic shit like that.
I also don't wanna go with the stereotypical witch,even though I think they are cool

im a rusty boy..

im a rusty boy..

Thoughts on this character?

>>3337663
looks like one of the new pokemon and that's not a compliment

>>3337665
Did you really need to specify that last part? Rood

>>3337668
i did because they look fucking stupid

>>3337590
I like tits too, but don't prioritize sluttyness over design.
But as it is now I'd probably pick A's bottom and C's top.
Or just A but without the neck thing. But that might be too Elvira-ish

>>3337692
you're never gonna design something better than tits

>>3337622
I liked the idea of them being nude. In a creepy "clothes is for stupid mortals" way, and not in a lewd way.

Clever angles and long hair could censor it up a bit, if you don't want to show tits like a good Christian.

>>3337697
The promise of tits > tits. The fantasy is always better.

>>3337590
lose the high heels unless you're going for heathers-type camp

if you want to make her ass-nude, try going less full tits and more like enchantress from the suicide squad movie

>>3337660
I just cheated with cheap effects :(
i never get the eyes right

>>3337663
>>3336464

>>3337663
busy. face could be interesting

>>3337755
Looks off because you're drawing symbols, do studies of faces from different angles, that'll give you an understanding of it in a 3D space and the "why" features are where they are and how they connect to the rest of the face.

Also look into color theory, your palette looks very muddy.

how do you know when you're ready to learn colour?

>>3337800
oh, sorry

>>3337779
that's not what symbol drawing is

>>3337622
What about nude and covered in blood runes or something

im trying to render things but compared to the sketch it lacks flow, gotta work that out. And if you guys know any art/artist that has this same "ethereal" and even horror look, link to me. I really want some inspiration.

>>3336203
Hey, thanks for your interest anon, I really appreciate it. I pretty much never post on my blog so I don't really give it out but I will be posting the updates of this picture here at least.

>>3334967
you are using SAI aren't you?
don't

>>3333516
EXTRA STICC

Also the line art is scratchy

>>3337607
tripple gay you are

>>3337947
Thumbnail made me think of huke.

>>3333516
lighting on the torso doesn't make sense. The spine highlight should be in to parts to show the recess of the lower back and the vertebrae sticking out. That head needs better construction.
The x-plane angle is not so large that the head is shortened: it should be wider. The forehead is receding out of line of the neck.
Also, clean up your lines and coloring, especially where the suit opens up to reveal the neck. Reconsider line weights on the upper legs and calves.

Added some base values and made some attempts at correcting the perspective, which seems like it made the angle less extreme and overall way less dynamic than I was hoping for.
I can tell this is going to fall far short of where I'm aiming but I might as well finish it for the practice.

>>3336397
>>3334301
*jew

"quick" study. took me ~1 hour

quick study. reuploaded to fix some shit

>>3338078
push your values more, dont be afraid of highlights.

it reads poorly in thumbnail because of this, which means the composition is all fucked.

add some near whites and near blacks, dont be a fucking pussy

I'm doing a painting with one of my own handmade ceramics in it, and honestly it's WAY better than doing one from something I bought.

Don't know if this is the correct place to ask but... any tips on doing smoke?

>>3337546
Usually the mouth is not that far from the nose.

>>3338147
Noted, thank you.

>>3338161
Can we see a picture of your still life set up?

>>3338164
let the viewier fill some of the gaps in the drawing, smoke is difuse, you are only supposed to hint it is there, learn to draw clouds and and smoke from youtube videos.

>>3338226
Posting from mobile so it might be big

>>3338235
I know it may be the style but maybe try more accurately portraying your colors, like in >>3332529 everything from the table to the wall seems to have very strong saturation which makes your piece lack focus. Either that or have your subject highlighted in some way, like in pic related (the plate is outlining the lemons.)

>>3338262
some of that comes down to the color palette I'm using. This is the style of painting best suited to the colors I use. I don't have black, I don't have a mid-range yellow, in fact most of the colors I use are on different sides of the spectrum from their primary color. Blue-greens, red-oranges, red-purples, etc. A more "realist" palette would mostly be mid-range reds, blues, and yellows with no dipping into a particular temperature.

anyways here's it finished

>>3338351
deltoids look strange, rib cage is looking really crowded and serratus seem a bit far forward, obliques and neck are massive, angles the feet and knees are pointing seem contradictory, left pec is doing what the armor plate looks like and not what it should be doing, right pec should be more raised, note sure what those lines are between the pecs on the sternum, bump seems strange on the left quad where the vastus lateralis is

>>3338363
can you do a redline for me?

Practice, any tips on how to make it more interesting?

>>3338516
maybe add some accent color? blood on the knives?
maybe some snow going to the left

>>3338519
was thinking of adding a blizzard.
And maybe some warm colors, but I can't find a smart way to do that

>>3337590
why not just put all of them together

>>3338516
>>3338526
Add Aurora borealis

>>3338537
ooh, good one thanks

testing some effects, it gets busy very quickly.
I always struggle in the last phases of a painting.

Testing some effects, it gets busy very quickly.
I always struggle in the last phases of a painting

>>3337052
yeet

>>3337800
Do something in colour. You'll notice if it's too early or not. And you can always convert the image to grayscale to see if the values are right or not

>>3338269
I'm not experienced, but I think you could dull the background with blending and less intense colors to make the scene more 3d. Also that mug is pretty bad.

>>3338269
Have you ever tried working digital? It's very friendly when it comes to trying out different colour approaches and combinations. You might figure some new stuff out for how to approach traditional painting.

how to keep painter from crashing constantly?

>>3338753
rip
that's happened to me before

>>3338753
not use painter and use photoshop.

any featback?

Someone give me critique on my new character please.

>>3338794
I like how brushes run out of paint and some of the features in painter.

>>3338799
Use a reference

>>3338836 I did.

>>3338819
first off: alternative style thread
second: looks like kirbopher, which is not a good thing.
the colors don't blend well together. It seems like you know the idea of color theory, but you still need to practice by studying illustrations, concept art etc. that uses pleasing colors- and study a variety of them. You can't just add a saturated color, and go to the opposite end of the color wheel and make it desaturated, it's more than that.

another thing you and kirbopher have in common is the forms look flat, which is caused by the flat line weight. Learn to add pressure/line weight into your drawings.

Overall your fundamentals are weak. Like you can have a good design but it's hard to tell if you don't have the art fundamentals down.

>>3338844
Post the reference. What are your goals with this drawing, what level of finishing? Honestly, you need to lurk >>>/beg/ more.

>>3338615
looking gud

>>3338847 I wanna make it look more 3D and try to pratice shadows.

>>3338854
You should work from light to dark, start with the darkest value for each form, so your base color for the skull should be the dark brown found in the holes. I wouldn’t have wasted time drawing all the lines in the horns, they’re throwing off the form anyway. Be patient and when you start rendering make sure to take breaks and view your reference. Before you laid your base colors you should have corrected your linework. Personally I think overlaying to check is cheating but it’s one of the advantages of working digital, so if you have to, you have to. Just don’t trace which is full on cheating.

>>3338861 Ok Thanks

>>3338861
>>3338863
Meant to type work from dark to light, and don’t work with absolute black digitally. Go read some of the advice that’s in >>3338005

>>3338832
photoshop has that. just use the mixer brush and turn the load down.

>>3338924
Mixer brush looks too much like the smudge tool imo but maybe I just don’t have the right settings or brush shapes

>>3338925
there's a similar effect with the normal brush as well. under transfer, set the the flow control to fade, set the number to the right of the control dropdown probably somewhere in the 200-500 range, and leave the minimum slider at 0%

>>3338941
Thanks! Will try after work tonight. I’ve only been trying painter for the first time this week, but if it’s this unreliable, I’ll have to stick to photoshop. My computer has an i5 with 12 gb ram so it’s defibitel not a hardware issue.

I made this for someone on /aco/

>>3338989
The ralistic smoothness in the nipples doesn't look (match) the type of body and the way you're coloring the body (At least to me).

Try first putting all the shadows there (not blending them, just putting them as values) and then blend them, that way it doesn't look strange if one part of the body looks different and it keeps the same style.

>>3335196
The lines on the bottom pull the eye away from the center, it is distracting. Please don't just put random strokes in there, because you don't know what to do with the space; look how mike azevedo puts shapes in the background to help the composition.
While you look at his pics, study how he uses light. Your painting has a weak sense of lighting, the directions of the light is kinda there, but not fully realized in all the shapes (this is what gives things nice volume). Furthermore, you only use one light, which is something one should use with purpose. In most cases, go for two or three light sources.
Texture is highly dependant on edge control, so really THINK about the volume when painting the shadows (or light, whatever), so that your texture size, direction, etc. corresponds to the edge.

Can't fucking think of a design for the demon behind him.

>>3339088
it kind of looks like a grasshopper

>>3339088
looks like babby dio just give him za warudo. Also middle of the shirt is fucked up.

>>3335196
>>3339027
I think he was going for a quick grass texture but you’re right it doesn’t work. I think the big problem is the stroke and texture directions are conflicting which is what makes it so distracting. Grass blades do conflict in direction but lighting source should be consistent. The uniformity of the brush shape makes it look like the blades are all in the same direction but the light is conflicting.

>>3338747
That's the downside of painting from artificial light, everything basically becomes a local color.

>>3338752
Doesn't help with traditional, color theory in digital isn't really a thing because you can't limit a palette in the same way you can in traditional.

Here's a new painting I'm doing from natural window light because I didn't want to do another one from artificial.

Finished this today after taking some breaks , og file is around 7k

>>3338537
A-aurora borealis!? At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of 4chan, localized entirely within this thread!?

>>3339170
Kill yourself

>>3339159
Not really feeling the wrists, but I get you’re doing Yuasa’s wonky arms

Well it's me again, just to ask... is this ok? It's suppoused to sell the effect of foreshortening (fingers are suppoused to be cut). But i don't know really.

>Clean your lines
I know anon, i'm in pencils now.

>More realism on the face
I'll fix that later. For now i'm on the hands.

>>3339228
Lol carrotfingers. It doesnt work bruh. Even the noncut fingers are fucked.

>>3339248
Well... any tips on fixing it?

>>3339107
>color theory in digital isn't really a thing because you can't limit a palette in the same way you can in traditional.
How is your palette limited irl? I know you said "I don't have black, I don't have a mid-range yellow" in >>3338269 but why not? You paint a lot so I'm not sure if it's a monetary issue.

If it's not then I feel like you're setting aside the fundamentals in favor of style, and imo some of your pieces have had a lot of potential but they feel lacking.

Just my two cents, also don't be afraid to touch edges, you don't want your canvas peeking through.

>>3339279
>Get a reference for a hand in the position you want.
>Draw it except for the part of the ring and pinkie fingers

Do you need me to wipe your ass for you too?

>>3339107
>because you can't limit a palette in the same way you can in traditional.
That was kind of my point. Since you have all these choices with digital you could find new ways to do shit. And then figure out how to do the same thing with a limited traditional palette.

But only to mix things up and try new things. I'm not saying that you should drop traditional.

>>3339282
>Literally no reference of the hand in that specific position, looked in both books and the internet.

Yeah man, thanks for it.

>>3339294
use a mirror

>>3333772
Stop swiping on fatties Briaaaan

>>3332348
Painting flowers takes for-fucking-ever and I'm not even done with them. I mean... in the grand scheme of things it wasn't THAT long but that's because I figured out the composition, colors, lighting, and all of that way beforehand.

You guys are just butthurt that they were originally mostly photobased but now they are all painted by hand!

wow, they look exactly the fucking same!

>>3339294
>too dumb to look up online poseable hand model or >>3339295

>>3339301
I fw this hard bruh.
Blog?

>>3339301
I know you said you're not done but they look flat and not occupying the same 3D space as the girl.

In any case, you can photobash all you want senpai, but that's not gonna help /you/ in the long run.

In any case, I find flora to be easier and more fun to render since you can take more creative liberties with it.

>>3339312
damn, I must be glitching out

>>3339281
I have 11 colors on my palette so it's not like I'm using that reduced a palette, but everything in traditional is limited by your materials. Say you have a red and a yellow paint. You can't mix EVERY orange with just those two colors, you are limited to what those two colors can mix. In digital you can mix any color you want. There's no real limitation to the colors you make, so painting with a "vermillion" in digital is just an approximation and it won't actually teach you how to use real vermillion paint.

>>3339312
Cast shadows and the like are coming up next which is going to add a loootttt more depth
>>3339308
;3

>>3332550
>>3333479
>>3336235
>>3332530
thanks you guys i really appreciate it

>>3339295
Guess i'll try that. Thanks anon.

>>3337052
>>3338672
Blog?

>>3339387
are you pippa tho? ditch your bf and get with a hero.

>>3339394
I don't know who that is

>>3339107
that is the fucking ugliest cup i've ever seen

30 minute figure drawing

>>3339426
and another one

>>3339426
Follow the form you ingrate

>>3339419
Yeah but it's fun to paint :(

>>3339438
Never!

>>3339228
Fingers have two joints in them, not counting the one conecting it to the hand. When you bend your fingers like that, they usually bend in both places.

>>3339438
ingrate?

I should study hands

>>3339221
Yeah at one point I just wanted to swap out for normal hands cuz I didnt feel like rendering a shape I dont understand but meh it only fanart

>>3339307
people here seem to forget that they have hands themselves

>>3339392
gerdmayo.tumblr.com
only just became active again on any social media, so there isnt much there.

>>3334732
the horizon is decapitating the creature

Critique?

also any idea how to make her more interesting? she's very stale just standing there doing nothing with a blank stare. this is a problem i have with all my work. i can't get around to making characters emerged in their environments and in action..

>>3339831
Maybe doing a lot of 15-30 sec croquis sessions would help just to capture the basic of dynamic motion. I think a more interesting pose and a more extreme perspective would bring this one to life

>>3339831

Basically what >>3339836 said. I'm always doing quick pose studies but if you you want to cheat a bit you could just get Daz 3D or Design Doll and try posing a reference character there. Just don't trace over the pose you get from the program because you'll just get another stiff pose. If you don't want to do that you can just take a pose yourself or ask a female friend to pose for you.

>>3339836
>>3339859
thanks. any other critiques on the anatomy or colors/light?

>>3339864

You've got some nice smooth transitions on dem values and you're defining shape quite well but she does look like a puppet to me. Her forearm is much shorter than hen bicep btw.

Just a little workflow tip:

I think you should figure out the colors in the background first because the fill light and a lot of her skin tones are going to be determined by what's around her. You're probably going to get some really bland colors on her skin if you start working like you did here but it's kind of hard to say at this point.

Anyways. I think you might want to start from the beginning on this. It's not that it's terribly bad but I'm sure you'll just end up regretting the bland posing in the end. One thing you could do is taking her face and making it into a nice little portrait but moving forward with such a flawed base is always a little bit dangerous.

I didn't finished yet, rate please:

Thing I'll most likely ruin by attempting to color.

>>3340016
stop pillowshading

Here's some progress. Layer block in and trying to set values.
Some help with value differentiation would be great.Btw,it's supposed to be dark and eerie

>>3337622
>>3337590
thanks for all the help folks

>>3337699
>>3337886
thing is I can't have it be too graphical in order to make it a portfolio piece,sadly

>>3338536
sort of what I ended up doing

>>3332348

I just finished a 45 minute character line art exercise of 3 characters.

I usually don't work under time constraints so this was difficult for me.

>>3338717
thanks dude.

>>3340083
it's overall a nice composition, but it's not very scary. she's just kind of pointing at him, the top one has this dispassionate waterhouse-drapery vibe and he looks kinda already dead. is she gently placing him there to die or gleefully taunting him or what?

>>3340059
study some necks and ears before your start painting it.Should help you.
you gave the neck a slight curvature which is wrong,even if it's stylized. you can make the neck thicker or thinner( thinner =cute) but it should always look straight.


>>3340101
thanks! yeah they are punishing him/cursing him.
I want it to be eerie and mystical rather than frightening and violent. Well people who are /were sentenced to death usually look calm and in acceptance of their fate,mostly because there's nothing they can do.

>>3340144
>you gave the neck a slight curvature which is wrong
>it should always look straight.
what are you talking about m8? your drawings are great and show a good understanding of anatomy so i don't know why you would say something like this.

>>3340144
>before your start painting it
Oops.
I had already started coloring it before I saw this but I did attempt to fix up the neck and ears like you said. I did draw the neck with a straight line but I wanted to make this collar thing tent out at the bottom, so I'll have to try to make that read better.
Thank you for the critique, I'll keep working on it.
Or more likely get insanely frustrated and toss it into the recycle.

>>3340169
I say it because I've made the mistake of thinking about it that way. It's easier if you think about it as cylinder.
I think you are mixing the the neck and it's muscles with the traps,to which the neck is connected and what gives the notion(specially in certain poses) that the neck is curved. The curve at the bottom of the neck in the connection with the torso.
Buff dudes with really developed traps start looking like they have no necks at all(RIP rich piana).
You did a inwards curvature which is not that common and really depends on the angle.
Again ,this is how I think about it.

Also I think your piece would benefit if you drew in her shoulders!
hope you find this informative ,if anything haha

>>3340241
By the way that wasn't me who left the comment about the necks but I did read what you've said about them anyway. I think adding shoulders is a good idea. If I don't get frustrated enough to give up on it I will add shoulders and possibly a little more. Thanks again for your advice!

Progress on this. Gonna finish it tomorrow

>>3340241
nigga. those muscles are part of the neck, you cant be serious.

>>3340249
yeah I only realized that after
>>3340236
this is already and improvement

no problem!

>>3340144
neat. well, i think a bit of character interaction might sell what you're going for. if we could see his expression/rest of his body clearer, or she was stroking his hair or face, that would communicate clearer

>>3340062

I don't know how to shade very well. And what about the draw itself?

How fucked is it?

finished this

>>3340327
this is great. blog?

>>3340414
I like the shadow to the left of the cup, and the right side of the cloth, despite simple shows that you're understanding the shapes of color

Didn't like the background much, it looks like you made it in a rush so you didn't mix the colors properly

The fruit on the bottom right is neat

Shadows shouldn't be made with pure black, it looks wrong. Try to stay in the correct hue

>>3340469
I liked it btw. The miniature looks decent, you can clearly see the places where palette and shapes are handled properly

somebody make a new thread

>>3340540
I'm not the usual OP but I did it
New thread >>3340630

>>3340460
lol it's a Waterhouse painting. You have an eye for taste though

>>3338078
She's too small

>>3340090

This piece took me 5 hours, I'm so slow and I want to crunch it down into 2 hours, anyone know any good tips?

>>3339304
nice

thumbnail of landscape, looking for crit I'm new to thumbnailing and stuff. Also: Any good brushes for impresionist artwork?

>>3343310
another one