/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>post your work

just draw

>>3334769
I nominate >>3334769

>>3334769
"Frank Frazetta doesn't know anatomy. All the good artists know he sucks and openly trash him."

"Who is Jim Lee? Oh, just checked out his art, he sucks."

"That cover by Greg Capullo looks like shit, the anatomy on that one figure way off in the corner that you can barely see is all wrong."

"Akira Toriyama is a meme artist"

"That popular artist? Yeah I saw them use photo reference once which means they're basically a human photocopier. Complete trash. I can't draw as good but I don't need refs so I'm better."

>>3334774
>asking someone to post their work on an artwork/critique forum board is considered something malicious
The absolute state of /ic/

Personal favorite.

>>3334797
i think you should finally take the hint that everyone hates you. im not even that anon. im someone else who cant stand you. you are just as much cancer as other crabs.

>>3334807
Guess that means I've contributed to this thread in more ways than one.

Any critique about or dislike for an image posted here on /ic/ is now greeted with "crab".

>>3334815
only by the people who won't make it. take comfort in that

>>3334796
On here, it usually is malicious. If someone says "post your work", it's often because they want to attack it.

>>3334807
and here we have a prime example of a crab in its natural environment who is actively pinching another artist that happens to already posses strong fundamentals, observe the type of methodology applied by the crab in an attempt to suppress the other artist psychologically. The goal here is to break the spirit of the other artist until he is eventually dragged down with the others forming a magnificent display of bitter crustaceans stepping over each other.

>>3334825
>artist that happens to already posses strong fundamentals

post example and if I don't think that's true I'll tell you why.

>>3334848
At the risk of being banned I think not just look through the archives he undoubtedly has fundamentals down.

>no rules only tools

>>3334848
and nice try at the attempt of making me post his furry art so you could report me, we see through your ruse you filthy crab

>>3334858
Thank you for not posting my stuff. People here even rip apart Ruan Jia so it's futile to change this dude's mind.

>>3334858
>>3334861

You guys sound insane. And I'm not whoever it was you guys thought I was.

>>3334796
>>asking someone to post their work on an artwork/critique forum board is considered something malicious
>The absolute state of /ic/
because the natural reaction of crabs to being offended is snibbety snab "poast yor werk" and if someone is stupid enough to do that, they'll take it apart, no matter what genre, style or profession

>>3334865
it's your standard crystal ball fortune teller attitude of /ic/ – they always magically know who it is. with their all-seeing tripcode-ray eyes

>>3334806
I remember that thread haha

what a projecting little faggot

>>3334873
>because the natural reaction of crabs to being offended is snibbety snab "poast yor werk" and if someone is stupid enough to do that, they'll take it apart, no matter what genre, style or profession
That is simply not true I have posted my work before when someone else asked me to after I initiated the exchange, and what I got was a completely different outcome and a pretty nice comment from someone who appreciated the type of genre I happen to draw.

>>3334876
did you get a "nice" comment after a heated argument that ended in "post yer werk"?

>>3334876
poast yor werk

>>3334883
pest yer twerk! !! or else ! ! !!

>>3334890
Nut Goona Meg It

>>3334883
give me a second i'll look for that thread

>>3334807
>im not even that anon
-That anon.

Here's how I've learned to decipher feedback on /ic/:

If your work is good then you'll not get much feedback at all. Some good work get a lot of feedback but that mostly seem related to people knowing who it is and the timing make me suspect that it's linked to one of the channels that are sometimes advertised around here.

If your work lacks something however people will jump on it. If you then try to defend it in a hostile way then you have set yourself up for a losing battle.

>>3334891

>>3334898
Copypasted from an old thread:
There are 4 levels.

>Level 1
You're shit so people just make fun of you and you occasionally get a good crit.
>Level 2
you're not shit but you're not good either. You'll get ignored 99% of the time and maybe you'll get a vague crit every now and then. Sometimes you'll do something above your level and people will praise you sometimes you'll do something below and people will treat you like a level 1.
>Level 3
Your work is appealing. People will heap praise upon you, ask you for your blog and people will crit you without being mean.
>level 4
Your work is very good. People get super jelly and nitpick, call you shit, a one trick pony, tell you to stop attention whoring, etc. Basically there's a shitstorm every time you post so you have to end up leaving /ic/.

Your goal should be to work your way up the levels and ultimately escape this toxic hell hole.

>>3334911
>ultimately escape this toxic hell hole.

>>3334769
apparently kim jung gi cant into aesthetics

>>3334911
that 4-level chart more seems like how a paranoid person looking for excuses would look at things.

>>3334911

>>3334916
>that 4-level chart more seems like how a paranoid person looking for excuses would look at things.
exactly. with that logic, Illustrat and Chunbun would be the next stars of this century.

>>3334916
>>3334917
There's a difference between someone posting their work and receiving a shitstorm and someone who posts their work and is an absolute autist about their stuff.

>>3334916
How long have you been here?

>>3334911
Crabs don't hate on artists for their skill but for their popularity, skill is actually a defensive force which repels instead of attracts them

>>3334934
>skill is actually a defensive force which repels instead of attracts them
Let me tell you about Teal line guy.

>>3334921
So you think they are evil then? To follow that line of thought:

Think of the ones critiquing as evil kids who want to bull you. Evil kids are experts at finding weaknesses you might be insecure about and repeatedly home in on them but they don't waste their time of they don't get an insecure defensive response from you.

Like a pack of predators picking off the weakest in a flock. You can't fool them into believing that you are an alpha. Their instinct knows.


So even there the conclusion is the same.

>>3334939
If he was shitty he'd be crab'd much worse for the love he got

>>3334949
But his skill didn't repel anything despite his skill and despite him helping everyone including those who attacked him from his redlines.

>>3334948
The guy who wrote that pasta admitted he was at level two. I'm personally there as well.

Reread the post, level 4 doesn't mean the popular artists think anything of themselves. It just means that they'll get a large amount of negative replies nearly every time they post something. And it's been proven true with many oldfags of the board. At some point praise will fade and some faggots will start to nitpick, bash and namecall. Doesn't matter if the artist replies to it at all, it just happens, as a cycle.

>>3334957
According to your story the level 4s would start out getting a lot of praise but according to the chart they would never get anything other than negative responses.

>>3334962
You climb up the levels, niqqa.

>>3334962
That's usually how it works. They first get met with praise/get ignored but over time the hate accumulates.

>>3334963
Not buying it.

If I had to imagine what really went on then I think it would be closer to that while the good artist was good there was still things that could need improving and there are probably anons mostly lurking here who are still better and occasionally give critiques. But now since there's a fan base and maybe the artist ego is out of proportions from hanging out on /ic/ any negative feedback now gets attacked. That leads to a counter response and egos feeling victimized.

>>3334968
to add to that. This place isn't a personal showcase. Whenever you post your work on /i-critique/ it's because you want critique of it so you can improve. Praises are just a bonus.

>>3334968
>>3334970
I know there are artists here who take criticism badly, but usually those on level 4 mostly get malicious comments instead of critiques.

>>3334968
>>3334970
You're really missing the point, this isn't what that post was about.

>>3334906
vocaroo.com/i/s1e8CXKGHrwA

>>3334769
that's a poor visual depiction of the metaphor, there has to be like a whole bucket of crabs not just one crab pulling another down, all the crabs have to be trying to escape.

>>3334823
>it's often because they want to attack it.
No, that is literally the opposite. Just shows your insecurity that you think that.

>>3335011
Do you even know how merc_wip became a meme? Because some salty fag went around trying to trash the artist.

>>3335021
no it's because the artist posted it in response to 'show your work' and it was so exactly /ic/'s standard at the time, while also not being very good, that it was super funny. and this is 4chan so it became a meme.

now it'd probably be some anime bunny girl because /ic/ has different, shitty, taste now.

>>3335001
i'll tell you once and i'll tell you agin:
vocaroo.com/i/s1RHxP711P6U

>>3334769
Goodness I remember now. Thinking about it gives me the shivers.

>>3334911
>tfw my post got reposted
haha caught me by surprise, didn't think anyone saved it.

>>3335033
>>3335001

try our salty crustations

>>3334797
No, you deserved that. I've only known of your existence for about a month or two and everything I've seen you do in that short time confirms you are a piece of shit in every way and it doesn't even have to do with what you draw.
I wasn't the one who wrote that but I saw it when it happened and at the time I didn't really understand it but now I fully do.

>>3334988
No. It's about perception of the cause and effect for what the post described.

It's called disagreeing.

I don't think there's a conspiracy to take down good artist. But I do believe that a lot who think they are good artists feel like there's a conspiracy to take them down.

>>3335056
>I don't think there's a conspiracy to take down good artist.
No one said there is.
>But I do believe that a lot who think they are good artists feel like there's a conspiracy to take them down.
Why exactly?

You're assuming everyone's projecting insecurities but you're the one misinterpreting what's written. If you've been in this board for more than a week you should know how some people here react to certain things.

>>3334797
You know you're a successful troll when you can be identified just by someone's response to you.

>>3335065
>No one said there is.
really?

>>You're assuming everyone's projecting insecurities but you're the one misinterpreting what's written.

Again no, I'm giving my interpretation of what leads to it. I don't really care if you disagree but I think your attitude of "if somebody disagree's then it must be because they didn't understand" is a part of the problem.

>>3335072
> I think your attitude of "if somebody disagree's then it must be because they didn't understand" is a part of the problem.
I'm not the only one responding to you, there were several, it's been pointed out to you numerous times.

Again no one is talking about what artists think of themselves, it's seeing artists that are objectively proficient (have decent control of their fundies, regardless of subject matter) get bashed after they were previously praised. It's not a cospiracy, it just happens naturally after a while because this place is toxic. Doesn't mean artists think highly of themselves, doesn't mean they leave, doesn't mean the trolls want them to, it's just part of the deal.

>>3334915
hes talking about kjg? holy shit wanting to call him "decent" is definitely the crabbiest shit ive seen LMAO

>>3335083
>I'm not the only one responding to you, there were several, it's been pointed out to you numerous times.

>it's been pointed out to you numerous times.

wtf. You are the one guilty of thinking he's talking to the same person.

>>3335103
He mentioned an "attitude", though. Perhaps I misread.

>>3335108
You probably read the word right? It's not an uncommon word and I would say a lot of this revolve around attitude problems.

>>3335115

>>3335118

>>3335033
>>3335043
Heh...
vocaroo.com/i/s1O0Fxufe3dI

>>3334911
>tfw level 2 but want to be level 3

>>3335140
ids awn, betch!

vocaroo.com/i/s00YUG8y9N3j

>>3335140
its AAAWWN
REEEEE EEEEEE EEEEEE

>>3334873

Well then... Post your work.

>>3334911
I'm a level 4 artist.

>>3335290
If that were true, by definition, you wouldn't be here

>>3335347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j38HRF17YMA

>>3335211
I really really like this

>>3334797
Your posts and furshit are always obnoxious. Kill yourself

>>3334898
>If your work is good then you'll not get much feedback at all.
It's nice when anons are curious enough to ask for your blog tho

>>3334769
i dont get this crab meme, i remember when it started too. 4chan has become such a normiefag place after 2004

>>3335001
>>3335033
>>3335140
>>3335211
I enjoy fun as much as the next man, but you gotta stop being underaged.

>>3334814
Yeah, with your own comments.

>>3336047
Would you laugh if I said I'm 19

>>3336007
t. 09'er pretending to be an oldfag

>>3336002
I always assume it's just people being sarcastic.

>>3336056
We should ban everyone under moot's age from 4chan.

>>3336007
Are you too old to use a search engine too? ("crabs in a bucket")

>>3336094
Didn't he make it when he was 15?

>>3336078
im not lol, ive only visited 4chan sparingly back then. i did't even visit in 2004 because only actual people with mental disabilities/fucked up personalities come here. now that retardation is the norm everyone flocks around here

>>3336096
are you too stupid to see how i wrote my reply? i understand it, i just dont fucking get it. its dumb and doesnt make any sense. just like that being salty meme/ I dont get why its a thing.

>>3335001
you seem like a cool bro and i think we could be good fwends (no homo)

>>3335358
After watching this, /beg/ doesn't seem so bad anymore

>>3336242
>i understand it, i just dont fucking get it

Then you get it you shitbrain. Nobody gives a fuck if you don't like it.

>>3336281
POST

>>3336300
YOR

>>3336308
DICK BBY ;)

>>3336323
no u

>>3335001
i knew an american dude who sounded much like you
he gone
i mess hem

>>3335140
VDFDP is that you

>>3335140
i got a broner for you

where's my GESTURE BATTLE????
>>3335211

>>3335140

where's my GESTURE BATTLE????
>>3335243

>>3336373
I've set up the google hangouts. Be there

>>3336393
>I've set up the google hangouts. Be there
you see, i don't do google.
i've got discord though

>>3336403
discord is for gays. I win

>>3336407
you chicken out already?

>>3336416

>>3336642
>crabbedy snabby
>*gock gock!

nice gesture
do chicken eat el crabo snabos?

>>3335011

If you link your work on here, people will scroll down to find your weakest piece in order to attack you.

"Post your work" is never an honest request. It is either a defensive retort or someone seeking something they can attack.

>>3336659
>"Post your work" is never an honest request. It is either a defensive retort or someone seeking something they can attack.
rings a 100% true for /ic/
if there's anything crabs can do, it's shit on literally everything for petty reasons.

>>3336647
I think they're too salty

>>3334769

In response to arguing the benefit of purchasing professional grade equipment:

>You have a crutch, you need a crutch, the industry is filled with lazy people who fell ass backwards into their job and need that crutch as well.

Apparently investing in good tools makes you lazy in this insane mirror universe.

I wonder if mechanics who buy Snap-On tools have to put up with this kind of thinking.

>>3334797
That anon was right, though. You are cancer.

>>3336242
>just like that being salty meme
How old are you? You might just be an old man and out of touch now, not even joking.

>>3336007
Are you the same autistic moron who rees every thread about this "meme" being forced? The brainlet that was ignorant of the idiom and even after googling it was still convinced it was one person trying to get everyone to say crab as opposed to it being an idiom everyone who wasn't a retard already knew?

There there little brainlet, you don't have to feel left out because you don't get something. Try spending less time on imageboards

>>3336285
hello child. staying in school?

>>3336803
its not me.
>Try spending less time on imageboards
i do thats the whole point on why i dont get it. maybe its you that should get off your ass.

>>3336359
Who?

>>3337571
which country are you from?

>>3334795
Jim Lee sucks and I wish he wasn't so influential

>>3337581
USA

Who is VDFDP?

>>3334769
>crabbiest comment
When a mod said they'd update the sticky

>>3337712
That's just a lie though

>>3337712
To be fair, that's not what the mod said. /ic/ was supposed to update it, but they didn't come to a concise conclusion.

>Crabs arguing about crabs with other crabs in a crab thread

what a fun thread

>>3337514
>i do thats the whole point on why i dont get it
Wrong brainlet, you don't get it because you're a retard. The fact that you're this upset about it means you place too much value on feeling included on an anonymous image board. Maybe you should deal with those insecurities before posting

>>3334769

The crabbiest comments are when an anon tries to bitch about how the term "crab" is used by crappy artists to dodge criticism.

>>3334911
>>3334914
just came back here after a year of not visiting... most productive year yet..... thanks for reminding me why I left
goodbye

>>3337511
>i understand it, i just dont fucking get it

Seriously, you are an idiot.

>>3337821
>>3338408
love teenagers. how is puberty? anyways bye, lover boys. spend some time out of this place, maybe you will actually learn a thing or two.

>>3338477
>look at me. I'm an adult. I say stupid shit and can't take responsibility for it like an adult. I get into fights with people I think are kids. I'm evidently a shitstain on society.

You really are an idiot.

>>3334769

Don't fall for the crabby baits

>>3338477
>look how little I'm affected! I love it!! I absolutely need the last word, just letting you know I'm totally not reading anything after this
lmfao this insecure retard

>>3337583
What the comic book artist? He's fucking great literally engage me into combat bro.

>>3334806
The levels of buttmadness is riveting.

>>3335140
You sound like the guy who sings the Sonichu animated series intro-song.
>WELCUM TO CWCVILLE!
Ebin!

>>3335358
>MyLiddleBoney anatomy on a wolf.
Reee
>What if you got critique from /ic/ but it's nice.
:3.

>>3339441
He's not. Most of the artists that work in DC run leaps around him

>>3334769
>File name
Well played, OP

>>3339469
Spazkid is great

>>3339712
Oh? Can you provide examples?

>>3339737
I fucking know right?
>NOOO IT'S A TRAAAAAAP
>*PUNCH*
>UAUAUAUAAAAAAAAGH!!!
I wish that he had completed season 2 as well.
Chris says: Tough cookays~.

>>3339745
If we limit ourselves to the "house style": Capullo and Janin. Finch when he took over Justice League was an upgrade.

I know those artists are influenced by the house style that is dictated by Jim Lee. But they still wipe the floor with him in terms of composition, anatomy, dinamism and perspective

>>3340892
Or just post a comparison or give links, it's your burden of proof.

Snibety snab :DDD

>>3334797

Just kys

>>3335053
>>3335997
>>3336782
>>3340982
God fine I'll just kill myself or something smH

>>3340990

>>3334797
Post your work so I can shit on you too!

>>3343366
>>3343379
>>3343384
>>3343399
>>3343418

>>3341099
Who did this? Who are you?