/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3330408
it's good that there's one thing the chinks can't ever learn or buy or rip off from other people:
a soul.
no soul in the painting, no appeal.

/thread

>>3330416
>no soul in the painting, no appeal.

Have you seen their art? because it has more appeal than 99.9% of the brown and grey bashed shit amerimutts are producing

>>3330416
Not OP, but I understand and don't at the same time.
Are you saying that their art feels dead?

>>3330408
git gud or git chinked

>>3330408
Holy shit, what's the context of this photo? I know China is hiring Russian professors from the Repin academy like mad, but that photo is crazy.

>>3330423
he's saying they arent human, it's essentially machines painting

>>3330428
Art school admission test

>>3330433
i wouldn't want to be in the commission that is assessing the paintings there.

>>3330421
>>3330423

yes i've seen their art and most of it is blind schoolism with no soul. there are exceptions, but they are few.
not even talking about american art at this point.

>>3330430
exactly

>>3330438
>>3330430

americrab cope mechanism gentlemen.

I think most american portfolios could 100% be made by an AI

>>3330438
The commission is probably an app with shape recognition

>>3330408
>>3330433
Those palettes look interesting. Looks like gouache that you can reactivate at any time. Kind of want.

>>3330408
>>3330433
that seems like a hellish enviroment to work in, even just for an hour. you'd feel like battery chickens.

>soul
Is this the favorite buzzword for western artists that aren't coping well with the realization of how inferior they are?

>>3330430
>>3330438
I see. Thank you.

>>3330438

What kind of shitpost is this?

you talk exactly like a modernist poser fag. Exalting mediocrity because "it feels reaal maan" "Abstract is like, another level of deep dude"

Go paint scribbles with menstrual blood you weakling. kys

AAA: Triple asian

We are not talking fairy bullshit here. Don´t cry later when you see all the good top tier jobs are taken by those "souless asians" . Git gud or git another better excuse for being inferior

>>3330438
>>3330447

>>3330408
Look at all those mmorpg artwork makers

imagine having to pee in the middle of that mess
you'd be trapped
I bet they piss in bottles

>>3330454
butthurt chink detected.
have a (You)

>>3330408
Is there a giant screen or something? How can the last row even see shit?

I enjoy other people enjoying art, why is this such a bad thing?

>>3330408
Someone please tell me where I can buy one of those color palettes and paint they use.

>>3330473
You're clearly underage and don't have to pay bills

>>3330447
lel, yeah that would be fitting

>>3330443
sure my child. another hurt chink, me thinks?

>>3330461
>Go paint scribbles with menstrual blood you weakling. kys
nice projection, chinky boi.
>oil painting
>chinese are yet stealing another western invention
>proceed to do nothing but copy shit
>"grind" the techniques of western artists
>no soul to it at all
>have not the slightest clue why that is the case
epic cultural appropriation fail

>>3330462
that just gives me a headache

>>3330408
Jebus,
Can you imagine sitting there? The smell, the noise, seeing all that competition around you, breathing down your neck. Someone farted, he had beans for lunch. Another one had fish. Fat guy is sweating profusely. All mixed with the overwhelming smell of oil paint and turpentine. Your head is dizzy and you feel nauseaus? Want to use the restroom? Too bad, there are rows and rows of people with canvases blocking your way. You can't get out. You start to panic...

>>3330408
they are turning painting into a meme at this point
thanks, china!

>>3330408
>"Asians are more talented"
>watches hordes of Asians getting discarded and the top of the pile mostly being copycats of photos and each other.

I hope they have some good ventilation with all that paint and farting.

>>3330481
everybody is sitting. you can't even step away from your work properly. everyone uses a printed reference. if you happen to lean back too much, you'd be knocking your neighbors board over. can't even step out to pee, as everyone will hate you for stepping around their shit.

i mean i fucking want to move and be left in peace when i paint. that whole deal is so standardized, it's ridiculous. this just can't be anything but an assessment for a design academy, not anything fine art related.

>>3330408

What about the mighty Africans? you know, the 7 foot tall musclechode ape-men that we all fear due to their tremendous physical might and mega dicks?

>>3330477
>muh competition
>muh jobs taken away
>muh

sounds like you're the only underage, if you can't afford to make a living off your mediocre art skills then get a fast food job

>>3330491
but there is literally an agenda behind it. think about it. the chinese have always stolen and ripped off every and any invention there ever was. they've simply figured out that painting is a fucking awesome business ecnonomically speaking: materials are inexpensive compared to the prices you can get. working time can be reduced to a minimum by mechanical, soulless schoolism. art fairs salvage a huge amount of money. huge ass paintings sell as decoration for banks, investors, rich ass people with typically no taste whatsoever. they don't fucking care if it's some dead scholastic shit painting.

this developement is an infestation and might just ruin painting for the entire art scene once and for all. it is the absolute top of art inflation.

>>3330408
Strange how these photos are always taken from an angle where you can't see the canvas.

>>3330408
>will take over the art industry

It already happened , even japan outsources to China.

>>3330479

keep being delusional, whatever helps you cope with your inferior standards and inability to compete at the same level as those artists.

>>3330486
>getting discarded and the top of the pile

he doesn´t know about all the koreans , japanese and chinese people in AAA western studios. Topkek, you clearly can´t even read credits.

>>3330482

Go make your 2deep4u generic white dude with brown hair standing in front of a brown photobashed city then you burguer trash.

I am dying to see revolutionary concept you have for a space marine or a Skyrim looking viking in your photobash portfolio

lol what's the big deal. if a whole bunch of people are doing it it only means the 1 percent will be of an exponentially higher quality b/c of all the competition right?
if they post their work to the internet then it means more study material for me, and i can learn from better artists and thus eventually reach their level through practice.

it's literally new game+. i don't see the downsides to this.

>>3330494
>stolen and ripped off every and any invention there ever was.

you don´t know a thing about the history of China if you think that.

>>3330494
except this school has been out there for years, and 90% of the students are photocopiers. Even after finishing school and becoming a "professional" they make so little money. I don't see why anyone would be concerned, in fact I feel bad for these kids

>>3330494
You're a complete and utter moron with not the slightest clue of how econmics work.

>>3330498
(You) butthurt chinky boi again

>>3330502
that's the business side of such an institution. they just don't give a shit. they offer the services, the blind grinding of techniques, cash your tuition and what happens to you afterwards is not interesting to anyone.

>>3330507
yeah, you sound like you do.

>>3330498
>he doesn´t know about all the koreans , japanese and chinese people in AAA western studios. Topkek, you clearly can´t even read credits.

None of those were mass produced in some chinese art school, you idiot. Obviously there are lots of asians in the entertainment art industry, everyone knows that. Most of them were born in the west though. Take Disney for example, lots of asians work for the art department at Disney, but they are mostly CalArt graduates.

>>3330507
enlighten me, bitch

>>3330494
>soulless schoolism
>some dead scholastic shit painting.

Good luck with tambourine practice in your fake western art school you abstract modernist scumbag.

>Spoiler: you are not going to make it

>>3330494
>art fairs salvage a huge amount of money. huge ass paintings sell as decoration for banks, investors, rich ass people with typically no taste whatsoever. they don't fucking care if it's some dead scholastic shit painting.


Meanwhile in the west """"True"""" art world

>>3330523
cute tabloid shit story you got there :3
keep copying stuff, chinko bingo!

>>3330523
You do realize that the chinese are basing their art tuition completely on the methods of western and eastern european ateliers, right?

>>3330532
>>3330494
>art fairs salvage a huge amount of money. huge ass paintings sell as decoration for banks, investors, rich ass people with typically no taste whatsoever. they don't fucking care if it's some dead scholastic shit painting.


Meanwhile in the """"True art"""" world of western galleries

>>3330529
>Meanwhile in the west """"True"""" art world
t. envious loser

>>3330533
>on the methods of western and eastern european ateliers

the same methods that ironically are now completely absent in western schools where they teach about Basquiat, Brillo boxes and making a statement with urinals

>>3330536
funny how the top artists worldwide are mostly western, often painters, hardly any chinks to find except for non-sequitur-artist Ai Weiwei

https://www.artfacts.net/en/artists/top100.html

>>3330539
>Basquiat, Brillo boxes and making a statement with urinals
"I hate modern art so much!"
:3 cute
let me guess, you are a chinese concept "artist"?

pic related. another chinese copy machine

>>3330537
>t. envious loser

wathever you say buddy, wathever you say.

Keep exploring your feelings via irl shitposting in your expensive art galleries and Western schools , you condemned all your family into debt to attend , make the most of it.

>>3330548
>you condemned all your family into debt to attend
nope, was entirely free in my country. nice projection though!
love how you assume so much and it all hits nowhere :3 keep firing blanks!
love it

>>3330543

>post an example which is better than 90% of delusionals who study art in the US


i fail to see your point lol, You should git gud and start making studies like that, you are embarassing yourself if you seriously think theres something wrong with that student who is actually studying ART

>>3330548
I don't understand what you are trying to argue here. I highly doubt you will find anyone on /ic/ who is actually in favor of postmodernist art schools. Do you enjoy making up a strawman in your head and then basically arguing with yourself?

>>3330553
>Do you enjoy making up a strawman in your head and then basically arguing with yourself?
seems to be very much the case.
someone is trying to defend OP pic schoolism and pretend like painting like that is not a western invention.

>>3330543
>pic related. another chinese copy machine

your so fucking jealous lol, i can only imagine the awful wannabe garbage with no skill level you make

Maybe you should take some notes from that guy and go learn how to actually draw

>>3330549
>free

That's because your time is worthless just like your (((education))) was MOMAron.

>>3330553
>. I highly doubt you will find anyone on /ic/ who is actually in favor of postmodernist art schools.

you are just against actual art education

>muh souless schoolism meme

>>3330557
hey chinky dinky!
hows your NGMI going?

>>3330557
yeah loli masturbators like you are going to be big stars of tomorrow! dream on
have you done anything incriminating yet? molested kids? I'd expect nothing less :^)

This place is such a shithole. You people suck.

>>3330559
>hey chinky dinky!

>t. a 12 yr old

>>3330574
>>t. a 12 yr old
>the a 12 yr old
nicely memed

>>3330557
remember people, this is the guy who draws nude loli porn and defends his perversion saying it's "joy of the newborn!"
and this same guy is defending the chinese copycat agenda that is now reaching into painting education. lel

>>3330416
sorry man, philosophers since WWI have been arguing about the art scene reaching this phase. It's called consumerist fetishism. Art is now just content or product, it doesn't need soul to be accepted anymore even if you think that. You can literally make garbage and have it succeed nowadays.

>>3330605
>le it's all the same without exceptions, because i say so
:3 cute
miss me with that "modern art was mistakingly thrown in trash" crap

>>3330428
you know China has a billion people right? That's more than 3x the US and the US is already overcrowded.

just beeurself

>>3330587
>the chinese copycat agenda

so much cringe

>complains about western schools being shit
>complains about lack of fundamentals
>Complains about modernist logic and lack of principles
>But sees asian schools have top tier standards and teach tradicional art skills with strong classical fundamentals and a strict quality control that produces consistent quality professionals
>"nah man, is like, soulless "

Fuck off Crab , Git gut or stop whining like a weakling and a butthurted bitch, This is the exact same stuff you´ll find in a good european atelier or academy that actually teaches figurative art and not just post modernist memes.

If you think something is wrong with these artists and school system then you might as well quit right now because it is the same thing ((you)) should be studying if ((you)) want to improve

>>3330618
Actually this.

>>3330416
Explain to me what soul in a painting is? I agree partially with this only because I have Chinese relatives and I got to say they really do get raised to be like drones. Individualism is crushed over there.

Their skill is from grinding and the image-based language giving them a huge advantage in detail at a young age. Their lifestyles don't let them capture this soul aspect though.

>>3330571
ching chong ping pong tiny wang wou cibai le errr

>>3330408

This is something I've thought about as well, there's so many chinese artists out there with a unique high quality art style. People like Ruan Jia and Fenghua Zhong.

They even have a youtube channel dedicated exclusively for chinese digital artists.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtqLEajb5DORGv4qXWzVSmA

>>3330430
This is retarded. You're just trying to discredit their skills. What's stopping you from drawing that well if it's just schoolism. Fucking no wonder you guys are ngmi.

>>3330618
>masturbates to loli
>draws loli himself
>reports people with "i can't announce it, but i'm using a certain site function against you xD" - because he disagrees with someone

so much cringe
i'd like people here to know how much of a coward you are :^)
>pic related

>>3330466
Literally my fetish

>>3330454
So true, first it's you need skill, then that's not enough when the chinks got it in spades. You need to have some soul bullshit that no one can explain besides "you know it when you see it" fucking stupid.

>>3330634
>chinese artists out there with a unique high quality art style.
i just spit my coffee. lmao

>>3330637
>Fucking no wonder you guys are ngmi.
oh look! it's another projection sensai!

>>3330624
painting something with conviction and personal drive as opposed to painting, because you love grinding and schoolism.

How much money do you make by with non-souless art?

>>3330645
>"you know it when you see it" fucking stupid.
the pain of not-getting-the-idea is strong in this one :^)

>>3330634
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtqLEajb5DORGv4qXWzVSmA

this one's better
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx3ud7FQV2a-xK3cgC1qaMw

>>3330647
More than art with "soul".

>>3330479
post your art so I can see this soul factor you understand so we'll apparently

>>3330559
>>3330564
>>3330587

Sup MOMA schizo? your Israeli art school give you a reprieve from the bathroom stall's glory hole again eh? No worries, I think I have just the solution to this problem. You'll be back worshiping Chris O'fecalphiliac's literal and symbolic black shit cock like you want in no time lol

>ITT: le fanboy of RJ rage-fitting hard

>>3330649
too dumb to embed

>>3330653
my masterpiece

>>3330416
chinese artists are actually envious of this alien

>>3330659
I appreciate the irony you're going for but your opinion is discredited thanks for playing

>>3330659
That crab needs more rendering.

>>3330659
wow another artist who can't even post work or take things seriously no wonder the chinks are winning

>>3330670
>can't take things seriously
elaborate please :3

>>3330670
this aint your post yer work thread, it's a "china yet again steals from the west" thread

>>3330618
Literally this. All day making dumb threads about western art schools going to shit and tumblr art being the ultimate cancer and yet when faced with a methodical, highly competitive and disciplinated method they hide behind "M-MUH SOUL" bullshit.

People here would rather put their dicks in a grinder than actually admit "defeat" or that there are better artists out there. Classic /pol/cuck mentality:
>the whole world is shit and retarded except me, but I don't really need to be worthy or show it, muh genetics and white heritage are enough.

>>3330536
that ebay pic was a joke by a youtuber. the bidding was a joke too.
the winning bid wasnt real and never paid out.

>>3330639


You are way of schizo, now you are completely going mental. Shitposting is getting to your brain.

Better go back to pol/ , they might give you better memes to cope with being a butthurt weakling who can´t compete with good professional standards.

Being racist might facilitate your delusion that your crab ass have something valid to criticize asian artists for

>>3330646
What is up with westerners calling their art grinding and schoolism when plenty of famous painters from the past did nothing but the same? Good draftmanship is worth respecting at least.

>>3330685
complaining that people are racist on 4chan.
really? seriously?

plus, i think that someone who is liable to groom minors has completely lost credibility altogether.

>>3330680
>People here would rather put their dicks in a grinder than actually admit "defeat" or that there are better artists out there


exactly, the guys are competing and beating western artists and they start shouting "muh steal from the west"

the irony is that these are the same faggots advocating Supremacy and free market and shit like that while they cry about asians being better at art than them. LMAO

>>3330479
>that just gives me a headache
As expected of your inferior european brain

>>3330691
>inferior european brain
>>3330689
>admit "defeat"

keksimus maximus
hold up, i'm having a laughing fit

>>3330687
only problem being that talent, originality =/= craftsmanship

>>3330416
Check the credits, outsourced art including design work is part of every major production. It's not just mobile game illustration.

>>3330702
concept art, design, commission work and functional design =/= art

OP pic is showing a mass assessment to prove painting skills. this may or may not be for a design academy or a fine art academy. there is a difference.

>>3330694
>originality
Who/what do you think is original?

>>3330723
not being content with "grinding" or repeating the things that hundreds of artist have done before you and actually starting to paint, because there is something you want to express and that you need to give a shape to.

since photography, realism is not a necessity anymore. the central force in a work is the idea, its implications, the story that the viewers mind needs to complete. not necessary a linear story.

there are great chinese artists out there. but you have to admit that there is a flood of mechanical, emotionless artists being recruited right now as well and that is the story that OP pic tells.

>>3330694
>only problem being that talent, originality =/= craftsmanship

>Being this delusional

>>3330739
trouble with reading comprehension?
nice meme though :3
if it helps coping with your insecurity, why not.

>>3330740
>trouble with reading comprehension?

i understand completely how crabby and butthurt you are, you shitposted a whole thread just to try and cope with asians being better than you at art

>>3330746
define the words talent, originality and craftsmanship for me please.
i have the suspision that you have no idea what they mean.