/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Worked on this today. I already posted it, but critiques are always welcome

Learning to use oil. Starting with a sketch from a figurine. What am I doing wrong?

Also, been awhile since my drawing has been critiqued in general, so please have at.

>>3323469
I like it a lot. Super simple, smartly designed, clear message. Cool texture.

>>3323530
The money in his eyes are good, but the symbols floating around him kind of kill it for me. Maybe have his tongue made out of coins or something, but that's just a suggestion.

Finished this today.
>>3323487
Its just the sketch but it feels a bit flat/skewed, especially if its from life. I think if you try to harden up some edges and really force the perspective of the base, it could turn out nicely!

Did this today and this is also my first post on /ic/. I don't have a scanner so forgive the bad quality. I never had any kind of training, but I've been drawing free hand and with references since I was 5. If I can I'd like to illustrate for a living but I know I have a ways to go. Any criticism to help me improve is welcome. If I'm wasting my time, tell me straight up. Thanks, Anons.

did this while out today. fabrics could use work, but im still somewhat happy with it.

>>3323653
It's ok man, you don;t need to tell us this is your first post on ic, we can tell.

>>3323653
If it helps, Robert Longo is a huge inspiration for me and I'd love to be able to create works in a photorealistic style like his.

>>3323653
It'd be easier to give you advice if the pen wasn't taking up 40% of the photo and the drawing was centered, flat, and in focus.

>>3323686
Is this any better?

First time trying to add lighting and backgrounds on a digital drawing

>>3323692
If you play around with your exposure/curve settings on your phone, you can still salvage a pretty bad phone camera.

Anyway, for the actual drawing, I find it hard to read. I'm not really sure what's going on. It sort of looks like a long-haired singer screaming into a mic or maybe it's someone holding a weird ass oar? There's a not a lot going on but all I can understand is that it's a figure. I think your values are decent, but the placement of them (aside from the gradient on the legs) aren't really helpful at all, since it's hard for me to differentiate stuff like their from the props or their clothing, or where their face even begins.

The fabric on the leftside shoulder with the lightning is pretty crisp and nice, though. And the movement of the hair is believable. It's just hard to read the drawing, though.

Also, if you're going into illustrating but look up to a photorealist, make sure to be able to balance imaginative drawing skills necessary for most of illustration, and the compositional and technical skills needed for executing good photorealism.

>>3323709
Thank you for this anon. I always thought that I could never tell what was going on in a lot of the things I draw, but no one I know ever really spoke up on that part. Pic related is another drawing of mine. I found the photo inside of a V magazine (at least I think it was). Now that I take a look at it again I can see where I went wrong in some places.

I use ink for most anything I draw, do you think using graphite and trying to fully outline everything before I really get into things would help?

>>3323740
This drawing is way more readable in spite of the confusing photo composition, but your values are way lacking here (not enough dark-darks, not enough shadows). It's also harder to get a sense of the bodies and clothing overlapping, so maybe emphasize occlusion shadows to show that they're layered. The fabric rippling on the boots is the best looking part, but the plaid fabric is sort of bringing it down since it feels less believable. Also the wrist on that hand is looking a bit chunky for what I would imagine is a model's.

I don't really think the medium matters (unless you want to be able to back and fix things with an eraser), so just go with whatever you're most comfortable with. As for the process, it depends what you want to go for. Photorealists seem more about the outline, but if you want to go into illustration, also learn to see the interior lines. Like the form, the weight of masses, placement of anatomy, etc., since construction's the fundamental skill for imaginative drawing.

You should try looking into photography, too, since it'll be beneficial for you to study composition and use your own photos if you want to do fine art level photorealism.

>>3323755
Wow, thanks again for the detailed critique anon. I realized the values on the second drawing weren't good, but at the time I drew it I didn't think much of it. I was just trying to get as much detail in as I could and I think making everything a bit lighter helped with that. If anything I'll go back and make the appropriate places darker.

Now that I really think about it, I lack the imagination for illustration. A good 90% of anything I've ever drawn have been from using photos as references. Some that I've copied verbatim and others where I pieced together different photos I took personally. I'll take your advice on looking into photography and fine art level photorealism. Thanks again for your response anon, it really does help a ton.

might put a character for narrative later. not sure yet.

from last thread's feedback, i made the values less midtoney and tried to do some hard shadow edges. what else should i keep in mind?

>>3323789
kinda bland composition

Reposting

>>3324013
Ups

Any Tips ?????

>>3323467
who are you, OP.

>>3323958
looks like you even further simplified the forms, but thats negligible my scro, just make a shit ton of em now

>>3324107
good shapes and all that salad shit, but watch out that you dont fall into the trap of your perspective depth being too shallow, I see a lot of art lose appeal because it just looks too flat.

>>3324138
shouldnt have raved about this on insta, now tHEY KNOW

current WIP

>>3324342
oops my bad fr the size

>>3324342
that's dope man

went back to this thing to see how far I can push it, and this is as far as I could go. am i on the right track here?

>>3324179
OP is a God damn mystery man....

finished this

I drew this miku. I'm not sure where to go from here to clean it up I haven't drew anything since like 5th grade

>>3324411
*woman

>>3324342
fukken dope
>>3324179
are you mortis ghost? anyway I really like it, but the hands are too weird, even for this style
>>3324013
neat silhouettes on the zombos, but the humans could use some work

Could I get some feedback on this piece?

>>3324409

ok fug it, i'm done with it

>>3324552
bich, you cant stop me.
and also no, I didnt even know who that is until now, though I am very glad I share a bond of vaguely reminding people of him with my drawings.

lil fake poster

>>3324612
My god what are you doing on this thread girl? Anyway. Those big-hand dudes looks very cute and It's cool that you try new things, but in general it feels like you are not putting a lot of efford on them. I have the same feeling with your small comics that you sometimes post about feeling and stuff. Ok, the appeal of them relies on that childness, but you could do a lot better if you worked slightly bigger and took more time on each pannel. You don't seem to have a problem on doing that, it shows here>>3324620. Personally I prefer that, as viewer, but I guess you prefer to work that way when doing those comics in order to focus more on the text, which is fine, but take in mind that you could improve more if you worked more on them pannels.

Anyway, now that you are here and I trust your judgement, what do you think about my zombies?>>3324014

>>3324649
sorry to inform you im not the same person as possibly mabel here >>3324620 hope that doesnt ruin your whole paragraph there since you kinda started with that. I didnt know my stuff smelled of calarts either :(

I know you didnt ask me about the zombies but the main thing id critique about them is that they do look quite stale and derivative, which isnt strange since thats the hardest thing to perfect in a style that relies on this brand of cartoony cleanliness.
I think it would be beneficial for you to experiment with elements of quirk and spontaneity that you refer to as "childness". Overall its looking like its on a good way though, maybe add in some whacky mid tones to spice it up!

>>3324663
Damn it. I'd had sweared you were mabel. And did you drew the OP pic? I really don't understand what you ment here>>3324179

And you can still apply what I said on the pharagraph. You have a neat style, but sometimes you break it too much and loses some consistency.
Thanks for the crit btw. I need them to be confirmed first and I guess I will add some midtones and soft edges then

>>3324649
ah!!! if it helps, i gave you some feedback anyhow. yes it is me this time

Jesus fucking christ, you are a bunch of dorks

>>3324179
Samuel Fukumori on tumblr
>>3324620
Mabel Ye
>>3323467
Mediumheightgiraffe/veednet

It's not that hard, folks

Does anyone remember that Foals guy that got bullied off /ic/ years ago? I wonder what he’s up to

>>3324745
he focused on his music and became pretty successful there

>>3324745
https://youtu.be/bAsGFnLl2u0

>>3323469
play absolver, soak up the style of the game, i think it will push you to new hights.

did this drawing at the library

A simple thing I started yesterday

Trying to get back into drawing but having trouble enjoying it like I used to. Pretty much my only skill (I know it's mediocre but I'm much worse at everything else) so I feel obligated to get good. Here is a shitty doodle of Eric Andre

>>3324793
her skull fell apart

>>3323770
Sorry for the late reply, since I went to go fuck off.

I don't think anyone really truly lacks an imagination to do more non-referenced pieces, but it's more that you specifically have focused on a different skillset than construction/designing that illustration entails. I hope you don't intend to drop the idea of illustration all together, since there's illustrators who utilize their own photographic references immensely and it might help to understand what's going on in a photograph beyond the 2D shapes, if that makes sense.

westerns are cool i guess

>>3324547
Holy shit who are you.
>>3324716
I'm veednet and I'm not OP, homie. Don't really get the point of your comment.
>>3324620
Is that a font?

Here's a work in progress

>>3324793
The back of the skull's looking a little flat, but outside of that I like it, especially the varying line weight.
>>3324801
I know it's a bit of a cookie cutter response, but I really think if you go over the sticky thoroughly, it would help you out. Youve got some of the typical errors that can be nipped in the bud.
>>3324342
You got a blog? Really like this, reminds me of french comics.

done

>>3324983
No, but do you have one?

>>3324997
You should make one, or a insta/twitter whatever.

I have one at mediumheightgiraffe on tumblr, but what I usually draw is pretty different to what I just posted here.

>>3324793
very cool! the facial features communicate depth really nicely. You might wanna take a look at Maxime Gérin if you already havent.

>>3324988
eye catching stuff, the blue sky gradient especially is a nice moment. Is this something that just kinda happens as part of your expression or are you interested and influenced by early modern art movements?

Any feedback color wise?

first time lighting and rendering on digital

Before coloring, for my friend

Colored tonight and darkened lines

>>3325021
the value/color makes the eyes and the nose look messed up

>>3324612
now I'm sad cause I guessed wrong
also check out mëgaboy, chariospirale, tarmasz, and elosterv
all those artists have a style p similar to yours, you'll find inspiration
or maybe you are one of them... hmmmmmm....

>>3324480

Had fun with this doodle. Critiques plz ty.

>>3323469
Loving this. It's already good enough but maybe add accent color on the character (for contrast)?

>>3325031
I like the composition and the varying line weights.

>>3324465
the lavender color and red triangle are super distracting, it might be helpful to limit your palette a bit in that regard. It's difficult to discern what all the subjects of this still life are. I can tell there's a bottle and a pot and some fruit but what is the scaly looking thing and the coral-colored thing to the left of the blue pot? Maybe defining those objects more would help a viewer read this painting better. The deep navy blues you use for shadow are nice especially in contrast to those oranges and yellows.

>>3324695
Thank you Mabel!!, I will print your feedback just to brag with my friend that It is from you.

>>3324897
>Holy shit who are you.
I just know who you are. I see you everyday in your room drawing.
A mysterious man...

>>3325055

i think you should take a seperate sheet of paper/a new layer and draw a body over it. the top half is pretty good, but then it's like he has too long a waist, no butt and he tapers off. also forearms are too long

Here we go friends, thoughts?

>>3325018
I love the shape language and use of lines! Where can I see more of your things?

>>3324897
I'm not saying you are the OP, just saying wich person drew wich piece. There was a lot of confusion going on

>>3325152
Ah, I see what you mean now hahah
>>3325126
His veins look like porcelain cracks, what's this man made of?

>>3323701
Try to change the colour of the leaf "dress" or change the design so the two sides meet. Right now it looks like she has a veeery small waist, took me some time to realize what was going on. The lighting is all wrong, but I'm not much of a painter.

>>3323722
The rendering is decent, I suppose, but try working on the character's body and on the wolf as hard as you did with the faces.

>>3324556
Idk about pastels, but I think it would be better if you kept it more "painterly" like you did with the suit.

>>3324796
Some hands are bigger than others, Morrisey would say, but looks cool so far.

>>3324861
Looks cool, but the hands and feet look lazy. Seconf character is much moe insteresting than the first, too.

>>3325031
>>3325033
>>3324480
sticky, friends

Finished this a couple of days ago. Frustrated with it.

finished this one last night

>>3325332
Is this how the alt-right sees themselves?

>>3325332
Close to Wikihow-tier.

>>3325305
I like it! Definitely FMA inspired right

>>3324988
How do you do this? Is this with actual paint and oil?
hey guys this is my first drawing in about a year (?) can someone tell me how I can improve this?

>>3325393
>How do you do this? Is this with actual paint and oil?
yeah oil paint with a lot of linseed oil. lot of pulling paint from other parts of the painting and reapplying it elsewhere

>>3325051
you can always rely on the frenchies cant you lmao. Im only familiar with Tarmasz but I love all of them, thank you so much! You should post your inspo blog if you happen to have one.

>>3325137
thanks! I post stuff here and there on insta under @samuelfukumori

>>3323467
landscape under way

Dicking around at work, I'm all sad today

>>3325406
Love it when squiggly lineart reads really smoothly like this, is it supposed to be a floating vehicle of some sort? His shoulders look a little stiff maybe

>>3325332
DELETE THIS HOMIE HAHAHAH

Decided to make daily achitecture/environment sketches to get practice and have a more direct goal than just "draw"

>>3325332
>the neckbeard
at least it's accurate

>>3325567
is good as a thumb. there's something i don't like about it though, i think it's that the house looks like a half second's work and no second thought. a doodle in other words.

so if that is the case then perhaps you really ought to do at least 12 of these at a go, and they should just be thumbs. then develop whichever vague polygonal house looks the best into something more complete.

>>3325575
i think it's pretty though and you should keep it up. forgot to say the nice stuff lol

>>3325575
Thx man, i feel the same way about the entire thing desu and i'm looking at where i want to add details and all.

>>3325446
help

>>3324983
yeah i got an insta @kennykomics I usually do larger lines and more graphic pieces

>>3325009
yoooo i really like your style, you should do like a bigger piece sometime soon.

>>3325592
fixed couds a little, not using cloud brush hax

>>3325021
It's lacking vibrance.

>>3325021
try making the background a neutral grey (#808080), the bright white is altering the perceived contrast

>>3325031
why isnt it an 8 string

>>3325121
is there a folder for these? if so, where can i get it?

>>3324556
i actually love this but for some reason i feel like the heads are small, or maybe its just me

regardless the black suit is looking good, wish i could say the same for the other man. i enjoy the expressive marks on this. and you do skin tones nice

iunno

Can I put my painting? Or just drawings?

>>3325660
you can post your hot glue pics

redline?

>>3325731
Go on /s/ for reference and work on proportions.

>>3325759
this is a good indicator;
thanks much guy. :D

>>3325659
I really dig this but I feel like there is clashing with all the textures. The cloudy grey one in the background doesn't really fit.

>>3325607
Thanks so much, man. I lack the attention span for anything that I can't do in one sitting, but maybe I'll try force myself sometime.

>>3324793
Expression is no excuse for laziness, brian. You're way better than that, man.

drew this yesterday.

>>3325893
Congrats homie, you played yourself

>>3324796
update

>>3325893
pretty cool

Watercolored in, IG of my other stuff is tranceparadox_artist

kind of a companion piece to my last one. supposed to be David and Goliath

>>3324179
Stop that, MaxMushroom.

>>3325928
is there anyway we can view your work? i know you dont have a blog because these are commissioned pieces, but do you think youd ever share smaller versions? i really like your work. still have a wip from a year ago saved that you posted. the one with the knights and the girl in the purple dress?

>>3325893
What kind of pencils did you use?

>>3325656
http://www.fineart.sk/

>>3325215
>>3325658
you got trolled by >>3324556 is a martin shkreli courtroom drawing

although i do love them

>>3325928
you are a winrar

not sure about head

i did a study of >>3326277. i can't get the hang of blending with a hard round, does anyone have any resources about that?

>>3326404
oops

Sort of working on this.
Wondering if I should give Bucky the robes he wears in Wakanda, or if he should be wearing his Winter Soldier stuff.

Is there anything I can change here to make it look more interesting?

>>3326308

I've had that problem as well.

I call it the "head-titlted-back effect".

Try and add the underside of the chin and then add a cast shadow and see if that helps.

The reason why the head looks wrong is because the torso is leaning back while the head is still looking straight on, it doesn't look natural.

>>3326542
Your choice of color and skin tone. Generally speaking black is very flat and should be avoided when painting.

>>3326534
it would probably be hard to get ref for the robes unless you're doing it from memory

>>3326552
the only thing is I think they had some woven pattern
I did a test but I'm still not sure

>>3325893
Blog?

this is an older piece but I added some new colors to it

>>3326174
just a cheapo mech pencil on printer paper, brosky

>>3326646

Great. I like it.

>>3325592
what are you even trying to say? This is a visual "uuuhhhh..."
>>3326646
very cool

>>3323469
It's a pleasant scuffed finish, it might be worth attempting again as the idea has both originality and familiarity that's unusual.

>>3323487
Wow I wonder how you got that effect?

>>3323530
Compliments on the cross hatching on the lapels. It kind of doesn't need the currency symbols, they don't communicate much more.

>>3323605
I have no grasp on digital art like this. Overall it is very good isn't it?

>>3323653
Beautiful delicate pen lines, try to swoosh about a bit more and use all the paper

>>3323657
Shame about the workings out

>>3323692
What have you changed?

>>3323701
It's very good, grass is a bit off

>>3323709
Is it different?

>>3323722
I laughed

>>3323740
The image and your style clashes, on purpose?

>>3323789
Brilliant

>>3323958
I don't get it

>>3324013
Groovy

>>3324107
Depends

>>3324179
It's funny

>>3324342
Yikes

>>3324409
I like the colours

>>3324465
Again quite funny , the bright colours are fun


>>3324620
Stylish

>>3325033
Far out man

>>3325731
Start again

I like the chunky lines but the overall feeling of the design is not working


>waiting to dry

>>3323467
I the new Kim jong gi

>>3326554
>I like the chunky lines but the overall feeling of the design is not working

Sorry I missed your appraisal

i think im calling this done

>>3326911
more of my personal work, less KJG-esque!

WIP. Never painted a watercolor portrait before, any tips?

>>3326911
looks like it took more effort to upload that pic than draw it

>>3326952
that's easy for you to say

painted this portrait of rasputin awhile ago.

>>3326912
thanks for the help
I'm rethinking it all at this point, I can't seem to figure out what I want this to be

>>3327071
Have a armoured knight while you think about it

>>3326953
thank you!

one hour mark for the linework

yes i am slow
denim's texture and intricacies are hard to covey with just line

>trying to draw digitally like
Fucking hell. Gimp has a lot of lag too.

>>3327213
GIMP is the last program to be using dude. Pirate Paintool Sai or Photoshop at least. When it goes on sale, get Clip Studio Paint, it does regularly and worth the price.

>>3327217
I was trying not resort to pirating but maybe I should...

I could really use a redline, this picture is the reason I no longer finish anything until people approve it.

theres a lot that could be fixed, but im too tired and i have to study.

The Tower of Babel
Oil
36"x24"

>>3327086
fuck you!

>>3326152
these aren't commissions and I don't post anywhere because who fucking cares

>>3327220
Just get Krita and download David revoy brushsets.

It's a great free program. If youre against pirating I assume you like supporting devs so you can drop them a dollar or something if you want

>>3327481
What a retarded response to their question.

>>3327481
i-i care senpai

>>3326910
>I don't get it
what isn't there to get? it's a study.

>>3323467

>>3327552
How's your comic going

>>3327093
Post ref!

>>3327093
What's your aim with this? If it's observational study you need to take a step back. If it's trying to create a cool stylized piece, then deviate a little from the reference.

The linework is quite messy, the weight is all over the place.

Look at pic related - it's just some random french artist I follow - the lines are loose and therefore the poses look natural. Your drawing is very stiff.

Good luck.

>>3327424
it's good but i'd not have associated it with the word tower or the babel myth... do something to empathise its scale maybe

>>3327093
try to measure the shapes/shapes between the shapes with your eye a bit more. the protruding leg's thigh is more a downward curve for example. and her shoulders are hunched up next to the collar, supporting her head and curving the seamlines, but you have flattened them down in your drawing.

>>3327235
collarbones are a bit fucky but does it matter

>>3325610
nice. work more on anatomy though, the outstretched hand looks broken and the one holding the quill isn't right either

>>3327093
I tried sketching the same pose without photo reference but from a manga tutorial. Copped nothing but style. Post the ref if you still have it

>>3327682
>>3327649

the ref is on the picture....

>>3327688
No the full picture. Find it.

>>3323467
not finished, stared this one today. im the guy who posted the landscape with the grass and the clouds

Her hip doesn't look right to me but maybe the elbow is resting heavily on her side.

>>3327709
are you a fan of r. crumb?

>>3327699
Disgusting subject, but the thumbnail reads pretty well.

>>3327699
added sunset, toes, lighting. maybe skin texture?

ugh

Finished still life from yesterday

Finished still life from yesterday

>>3327751
cuz ur drawings 'r crumby'

yeah yeah very funny

>>3328053
finish ur life today.

Why am I so bad?

Someone please critique my shitty dragon

I need to stop dicking around with colours before I've actually finished the lineart.

>>3327699
Tippi Degré?

>>3328155
That looks amazing. Blog?

>>3328098
what characterr is this? also if you lower ocality, make a new layer and ink new lines overtop, it will look nicer

>>3328092
bad crab

>>3328143
is he supposed to be scary? he looks quite cuddly

also wings might look more interesting if you made the gap between less symmetrical(they split off from dragon with much the same angles) and removed tangent with tail

Decided to finish this today.

>>3328171
Thank you for the critique

I tried making a big mean ape few months ago and he looked pretty goofy and awkward too, I always make my monsters too cute and I don't know how to fix this

>>3328168
Some character named Eris from a show. I practice by fulfilling draw thread requests in /aco/

>>3328179
he's kind of endearing. would hug.

i think change the eye to set into the head more(it looks tilted) and maybe make the weather more 'evil' might help. the wing veins are nice.

Maybe this is the correct thread, I posted in another one but I'm not sure
I'm trying to make her older, if you had to guess how old is she?

>>3328206
I think everything in a creature must work towards what you want

A threatening beast need to make you want to run away from it, not want you to hug it

So I guess I shouldv'e made him with more spikes, and make them less gentle, make him skinnier but also a lot sharper, maybe remove his pupils, his gut looks too tender, and so does his fatness, I guess you can't simply do everything anyway you want and expect the result to have the impact you wanted, thanks.

>>3327751
Yes and no. I own Complete Crumb Comic vol. 4, Waiting For Food, and the Big YUM YUM Book. I want to go through everything but I'm waiting on a new mouse.

>>3327763
added a realistic dirt texture i made from scratch, idk if it's working

>>3328270
I remember being pissed off that Genesis was printed at 9x12", it should have been 11x14".

Anyway here's a rough Sagendorf. I need to use more coloured leads, too many corrections needed here.

Can anyone help me make this dumb fuck look more like Bucky Barnes?

>>3327484
>>3327485
Sorry I was in a bad mood, but no I don't post anywhere.

>>3327671
>do something to empathise its scale maybe
hows this

>>3328456
also heres a drawing I did today

>>3328217
top tier hand hiding i must say!

study of an old photo of kids sharing matches

Testing a new pen and liking it so far

>>3328432
the actor's eyes are wide set and not as almond, more saggy. his eyebrows are also straighter not arched upwards. his nose is also slightly upturned. the mouth is a bit off too, the upper lip under the philtrum (where it touches the bottom lip) is not as pronounced downward. his jaw is also a bit more square. were you working from a ref?

I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
I still cant fucking draw comics

>>3328760
"Your sense of arrangement is the first real indication of your creativeness" - A.L.

Study design for a bit, you're definitely on track.

>>3328574
You find a high standard of reference, and the results are great! What do you draw with?

>>3328457
Have you seen 'Kairo'?

>>3328767
Funny thing is my compositions were cool and dynamic as hell when i was younger then studying anatomy to hell and back just sucked all of the creativity right out of me.

>>3328454
Pink-blue flesh looks amazing, are you using a true black or approximating?

>>3328053
You've successfully lapped Van Gogh in drawing, eventually you'll outdo him in painting as well.

>>3328773
Who is your favourite panelist in comics?

>>3328776
Cant think of any names right off the bat but i like organic panels like in Alan Moore's Swamp Thing, Sandman, Fables

>>3323467

This is based on a reference photo. This was my first time using ink w/ water brushes. Critiques appreciated. Thank you.

>>3328053
Good job brian, best one yet!

Do you guys have any tips or resources for designing appealing characters?

>>3328831
u do these? they already good.

>>3328217
teens/early twenties? it's hard to sy since that is a fairly standard way of drawing a pretty girl

>>3328486
you can't into necks/shoulders can you?

>>3328456
way better

>>3328760
that's litterally the most generic artstyle ever
every polar/noir comics has this fucking anime/realism/hard shadows mess of a style
the execution is good, but try to stand out

Did this stand design a month ago. Any tips on improvements and render? Maybe redline?

Composition sucks and the subject looks stiff. Why hide the left hand? Cause I didnt plan.

Id rather the bird was embraced delicately and made hes holding a knife to its breast. But I suck too much to deliver a vision.

>>3328877

I try to salvage adding this weird fucker

>>3328877
if you know what's wrong with it, why post? draw another version

>>3328926

I dont know everything wrong with it. I only have my thoughts. There could potentially be much better critique available outside of how I see the drawing.

>>3327610
Who the fuck are you?

What can be improved anons?
>>3326995
Well done, caught the expression and gaze well. One thing: Perhaps the background colour and foreground colour should contrast more, the overall blue tone is dull to look at.

>>3327709
I like this alot but it's very crowded with details which makes it hard to seperate the foreground with the background. Was this your intention?

>>3328454
Very cool and dreamlike, love this one
>>3323605
Neat

>>3328454
blog?

i drew it today, i really like it.

>>3327660
I was just trying to make a stylized piece to practice putting down screentones, I try to deviate from refs by drawing a character instead of the subject. Next time I'll try changing the camera angle or something similar if you think I need to deviate more.
As far as line quality goes, I think it's cause I work on vector layers with brushes that have average stabilization. I also get a bit stiff when I'm trying to get angles correct so I'll look out for that in the future.

>>3327671
Thanks for pointing those out man. I was trying to keep an eye on the negative spaces to help measure the angles but in the end I deviated from the ref to try to make my draw look more natural, posted it in the /alt/ thread. >>3329296

>>3327649
They're from the One Piece x Sketchers collab photoshoot.

>>3327699
This is unrealistic. The negro would be raping that little girl.

>>3329218
hey, i like it too anon

>>3328849
Thanks anon, maybe I am just too harsh on my self or some shit.

>>3329345
they nice. i'd do some more research on colour theory tho, those are pretty standard from-the-tube colour palettes especially the searing yellow

>>3329304
it's a nicely polished piece.the face is almost a different style from the body though, the body is much more realistic.

>>3329362
I was getting inspiration from Otogeri, an artist who draws that character a distinct way, probably mimic'd them too much.

>>3327671
thanks

>>3329362
Yeah, color is something I know pretty much nothing about. Need to get around to studing it. Thank you for the feedback anon, much obliged.

I started with a rough sketch and kept changing it from there. I couldn't find a reference that had the position I wanted so I had to get reference from different images of the actor. I was very thrown off by different make-up, lighting, and expressions he used, not to mention his hair usually covered half his face. Sometimes I'd look at the drawing and it felt really close but when I changed one thing the rest collapsed. I stared at this drawing and the actor for so long I don't think I can objectively pinpoint what's wrong.
I'll see if I can apply some of your pointers, thanks for the help.

>>3329438 is meant as a reply to >>3328704
This was the first sketch, btw.

>>3326910
>3324107

Anything seem off?

>>3329438
if his face is giving you problems, maybe look at some other winter soldier fanart people have done. a lot of the time it's easier to see what characterizes a face when you look at what other people have noticed drawing it. you could hypothetically caricature an owl by exaggerating the beak, but that's not why you recognize an owl so no one does.

although if i was going to say what's wrong, it's not got a lot of storytelling to it. it's like a pose to show off a design instead of one in the context of a story. which is fine if that's what you're going for

i did some ctrl paint blending exercises(blend 2 planes into each other). do these look ok overall?

>>3329604
oh

Does anything seem off?

>>3329608

the shadows are too localized, like each part of the figure has its own lighting. Use lighting that takes into account the whole figure , use shadows to establish hierarchies within the figure and move the eye, everything has the same constrast weight

The focal points are not emphasized or complimented

the legs are too stiff, the weight being so equally distributed means the figure looks non dynamic and the negative space between the legs bothers me some, have a major emphasis on the inactive vs active, exagerate mor.


i suppose theres going to be something to the left of the canvas? both her hands and eyes pointing to outside the composition bothers me, it has an incredibly akward visual flow.

use rule of thirds at least, her crotch is death center on the page, that kills an image, makes it inmobile and flat.

flip the background vertically, use color on the upper area where actual features are rather than the floor

i might keep workin on this, iunno

>>3329590
Yeah that's basically it desu, it's just a what-if.
Since Bucky has so few of his usual reconizable characteristics (black make-up around the eyes, black tactical suit, shiny metal arm, hair covering the face, dead fish glare) I wanted to get the facial structure more accurate than I'd usually bother to.

>>3329619
Not the anon you're critiquing, but is there a better explanation of how to handle shadows (like your comment about them being too local) that I can find?

So I'm getting more an more into colouring. These are from today and yesterday

Any pointers? What am I doing right and wrong?

>>3329621
wassup with only 4 fingers?

lasso tool lasso tool lasso tool

>>3329666
pointer finger is straight, held against the back of the phone. its how i hold mine.
but yeah, now that its been pointed out that it looks weird i cant help but feel the same way. will probably change that.

>>3329672
I suspected that would be it. Just make it so that you can see the supporting finger behind the phone.

>>3328857
i had to compromise because i didnt want to offset the entirely redline.

>>3329670
Reminds me of some black artist from the conceptart forums who sometimes posts videos of his drawing process. I wish I can find him but he loves playing around with the lasso tool.

>>3329716
Oh youre still around huh.
Its been what, 2 1/2 years? I remember when you got here you were a little faggot who said "i just draw for the attention" and would put the insults you recieved in your username field like a petulant little kid. I remember how cringy it was when you made threads just to announce "i will make everyone here proud just watch" even though nobody liked you.

Turns out, you havent changed at all and you still cant draw for shit hahaha CALLED IT

>>3329621
I think the frame needs either more going on or less going on. The symbols are cool but it feels half done.

>>3328868
I'd argue that calarts cartooning and anime is more generic. When I do my own thing everyone calls it ugly so i thought i'd clean it up a bit haha. Cant please everyone i guess althought I agree that doubling down on anatomy has been taxing on my creativity and self expression.

>>3328217
looks very young to me, like 12. pretty undeveloped/ thin figure. hips being slimmer than shoulders, big, low eyes, tiny breasts that are high on the chest, boxy figure, are all factors that are contributing to her looking like a 12 yr old. why dont you look at a reference? the shoulders are fucked, her breasts look like a man's pectorals, her face has misaligned features, and you're obviously hiding hands because you don't know how to draw them.

>>3329799
Nice Crumb influence.

Working on this at the moment. Critiques?

>>3329799
Really cool, do you have a blog?

A surreal drawing of mine.
Black ball-point pen

>>3329777
xnosebro.tumblr.com Where's your blog, you swellow fellow?

>>3328600
I've having some problems with the hand lately.
I tried redlining myself, is it better?

I used this as reference.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/35/7e/ec/357eec910705f80cb79d2546c8da2c0b.jpg

>>3323487
Update, ruined it. I'm pretty sure it's because idk how to manage my palette. I need to spend more time pre-mixing. But I always make too much of one, not enough of the other and end up needing something I didn't mix etc etc.

No idea on managing edge control in alla prima either.

>>3326910
>Wow I wonder how you got that effect?
MH red umber thinned to ink consistency, painted with bristle and a small synthetic filbert on arches oil paper

>>3329441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljFMUB5nuRM
>>3328704
here, this is what I'm talking about, the changes I made were quick but kind of exaggerate the actor's prominent features.

>>3329944
also, his forehead is pretty flat, not as sloped, I shoud've made his left temple closer to his eye as well.

>>3329942
maybe my problem is a lack of patience.

Playing around some more with colours and digital painting.
It feels like I'm starting to figure stuff out.

Input is always welcome

>>3329881
>burning yourself

Pffhahaha. I dont have a blog but I mean its not hard to be better than you. God I forgot what a dense fag you are

>>3329952
i feel like i recognize something like this before;

cant quite put my finger on it;

i recommend you look at some pictures of...well people in the rain.

>>3329947
I'm sure you've figured out a bunch of stuff while painting it. Make another and compare them both.

It does look pretty weird tho when some areas have soft transitions while others doesn't. Try and stay consistent with your style. Either keep track of hard and soft transitions over the entire piece, or only do hard transitions. Don't do both.

If you get what I mean.
I've been awake for far too long and hardly understand it myself.

>>3329947
yeah patience is kingly especially with oils, but they're really forgiving. I think you might want to go a bit lighter with the amount of paint you're putting on, but some oil painters do start out pretty heavy. your sketch shows some good understanding of shapes and value, I think when bringing color in, you lost some of value gets a bit confused, especially in the warm greens you're putting down. They're supposed to be shade but are a bit too close in value to the highlights and the saturated green. I think the piece is still salvageable, in thumbnail it's not as glaring.

>>3329955
I don't really get what you mean. Care to elaborate?
I looked at some pictures now of people in raincoats in rain, but nothing stood out that I could find. But it might just be me being blind.

>>3329947
Your brush economy is making me reconsider how I'm approaching my current oil painting.

Guys, I was thinking about making a thread to track my progress while I try to learn a specific style of illustrating. I would post some things to show where I am and where I'm trying to get to, and every week or so post progress pics.

Should I make it a thread or should I try to do it in here?

>>3329966
like i see youre trying to get a gal in the rain in a rain coat, but she doesnt look wet or it doesnt give off that she has water on her jacket

>>3329963
>>3329956
Thanks guys, your input is helpful. I work in hour-ish long sessions, so I think I'll just do another of the same subject from scratch. try to keep my sketch more organized and initial color block-in more simplified and considerate of form.

I wonder if Brian still hangs around here, he could probably point me in the right direction.

>>3329970
This is either complimentary or definitely not.

>>3329973
>try to do it in here?
this one.

>>3329663
Simplify your block-ins, your brushwork is really busy on the bottom two. Do main shapes with 3-5 colors, then secondary shapes, etc. (Not like in my work. Do as I say, not as I do)

>>3329987
Nope, that was definitely a compliment. I find it really hard to think about minimized brush strokes in traditional compared to digital, for some reason.

>>3329987
>this one.
I suppose it's best that way. Thanks anon.

>>3329953
Its fine, we all know what that means buddy.

>>3329982
Thanks for making me feel stupid. I had completely forgotten about making her wet (lewd not intended)
Is it any better?

>>3329987
>Simplify your block-ins,
Yeah, that's something I really have to work on. I get way too carried away when working with colour and values...

>>3330036
thats pretty good. awesome stuff i think.

>>3330043
Thanks, man!

>>3328770
it's colored pencil and pen

>>3330009
Yeah, it means youre an attention hungry retard who was raised poorly.
"Buddy"
Shitpost all you want but the truth is that youre still bad after years of pretending to know what youre talking about and giving shitty meme advice to beginners and im better than you and always will be ;)
Also ive posted my work for you multiple times and all you do is get flustered lmao you even asked for my blog once not knowing that it was me and i told you to fuck off hahahaha

>>3330113
True hero that /ic/ needs.

did a study of a male face from the front using 3d models as references.
I've realised my brush strokes are kind of a mess - does anyone recommend a portrait painter/artist to learn from?

>>3330036
I'm liking the colors and paintery-ness a lot,
however can't help but feel she looks a little "stretched" vertically with her torso and forearm. Even the hint of where her butt would be seems a little low?

Does anyone, by any chance, have a link to that Mega folder from a kind anon filled with random art stuff? He had stuff like books, artbooks and a lot of folders filled with collections of artworks by different artists.

I'm glad I'm back again to /ic/ it's been 5-6 years already

just finished this different moods enviroment piece

>>3330242
You obviously know your stuff and are pretty good on a technical level. What really sucks is your imagination. I've seen this piece dozens of times on artstation, and most of the time it was done better. It's your staple armed horsemen, giant palace #9000 and the same grassland with
rocks everything seems to take place in. Some worldbuilding things im having a problem with here: What do the villagers do and eat? There are no farms and pastures around, and besides working in the palace it doesn't look like there are many jobs available. Why is there deciduous tree in the foreground? All other trees are conifers, which tells me that the climate is wet and harsh, or maybe we're at an high altitude. Please think about what you paint and why you paint it. Show some creativity, something that hasn't been done a hundred times before. How does this castle look from the main sqare in the village? How does a quarry look in this world? Where does a sheperd live? Are there magical things and places? How do they look?

Also what's the deal with fantasy settings and blue rooftops? I've seen it so often now, and I don't get it. Just because it's the one colour of roofing that isn't done in the real world? Is verdigris too boring?

>>3329003
Facial forms are good and clear, but headwrap forms are mudd/flat/confused. Remember, they're smaller than facial forms, but still forms.

What medium?

smurf ogres from 2 weeks ago

>>3330499
ok fixed their thumbs, fuck how do i didn't notice that

>>3330484
im not even the guy you replied to but end yourself and your peak autism

>>3330499
>>3330506
...and don't forget the importance of BODDEH LANGUAGE.. HAH!

>>3330518
He's right. And it's why 90% of concept art is boring, recylced trash.

If the artist doesn't even give a shit and has given zero thought about the world (or even the vague idea of one) they're trying to portray why the fuck would anyone else care?

They don't.

>>3330538
I care, I found it a cool piece. But who cares, be the change you want to be anon

>>3330546
That's fair. I wasn't trying to shit on anon's work as much I was trying to shit on the idea that giving some real thought to your ideas beyond the most surface level stuff is somehow a bad thing.

>>3330538
>He's right. And it's why 90% of concept art is boring, recylced trash.

and most don´t even know how to draw past very basic level. The true reason so many people get into it is because they think they can hack it with low level if they figure out how to photoedit he same 3/4 character pose over and over and kit bashed shit and call it "enviroment design"

>>3330493
I have admittedly rushed through the cloth after spending way too long on trying to achieve the likeness in the face. Now I see that wasn't very well thought out. Just charcoalsticks.
Thank you

>>3330568
who is the outlier then? Who is this person or what art should be the one every concept artist should strive for?

>>3330576
Every concept artist should strive to have their own vision, their own language in shape, colour and composition, their own designs. The point is they shouldn't try to mimick anybody. Why do I even have to explain this?

>>3330484
>don’t draw things I’ve seen before

k.

>>3330718
It really must be difficult browsing this board when you cant read

Some sketchbook stuff, hope its not too small

>>3329799
That's way better
I mean it's kind of obvious that you're sucking off crumb, but still, it looks better
Try and look at more art with crosshatching in it to dilude the crumb influence a bit
I reccomend bernie wrightson but I guess you knew him already

>>3330766
Also lol

>>3330769
Yeah wrightsons a madman.

Tradfag going digital for the very first time here. Got a Wacom Draw yesterday, and just fiddled about a little bit with circles and shit, to understand basics of how it worked, then tried my hand at this. I know it's rough af, but I wanted to post just to see if I'm doing something essentially wrong in the use of the tool. I purposedly didn't fiddle with settings, just fired up Krita and drew this with default brush, to feel the movement and dynamics.
Any tips, exercises I should do or reading/video material on the transition from traditional to tablet would be most welcome.

>>3330113
You're so good youre afraid to post work! That must be really good :). We all know what that means buddy.

Concept artists talk about silhouettes. But what is it actually that defines a good silhouette?
I'm feeling lost.

>>3330957
Peaks, valley, rhythm, positive and negative space. You have to feel it, like a gesture drawing.

>>3330957
it should have edges, so you can tell what it is. and be visually clear.

>>3330808
I'm hardly the best person for tips regarding the traditional > digital transition. I had serious issues with it for the longest time and completely dropped digital for a couple of years, and then picked up the tablet on a whim and for some reason everything just worked out.

But some stuff:
Don't use ctrl-z. Don't use liquify. Don't use the lasso tool for moving wrongly placed stuff around.
I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with it. But it's like with an eraser when working traditional. You don't want to rely on it. So if you fuck up, paint over it or around it.

If you also work traditional, try to be even stricter than usual regarding how you put down lines. You really want the approach of "think before you draw" to be second nature, just because it's so easy to deviate from when working digital.

And last, do a bunch of timed gestures with the tablet. But with very short poses. Mix up 1min and 30s. Because you want to draw a shitload where you don't have time to think too much. Reconnect all those brain connections, and whatever.

Foolishly made an entire thread for my drawings and was redirected here. Pls pardon my newfaggotry

>>3331069
It looks really messy.
You should stop using an eraser. Make a light sketch and only put down lines where they are supposed to be.

>>3329946
>>3329944
Thanks for the input. I'll try those.

>>3331022
Thanks a lot, anon. Those do help. Working around or repairing stuff instead of just getting rid of them when they go wrong does hit home hard, as I was always very strict with this when working with a pencil. I don't even have a proper eraser on top of the table when I draw, just a kneaded one to soften up some demarcations, and I don't even do that a lot. Also, doing fast-paced gestures was the next thing I was planning to do anyways. So I guess I'm on a right track after all. That's reassuring.

Looks like I'm really late to the party this time. Oh well, maybe I'll have some ink on this by the time the next thread starts up.

Still Life Dedicated to Aruba

>>3331307
>maybe I'll have some ink on this by the time the next thread starts up.

Didn't take as long as I thought it would.

havent tried rendering in a good while.

imagination stuff
>>3331493
bigfriendlyninja is that you?

>>3331588
yup.

>>3330604
I like it anon

>>3329879
I'd say get rid of the Jack in a box writing.

?

Taking another crack at the green rooster figurine. Working smaller but leaving room to experiment with palette. Background really is that much darker/flat since I'm looking down at it on a stained wood table.

>>3331715
Block out major forms mor simply next time before modeling smaller ones. They need to be more subordinate to major forms. (Do as I say, not as I do)

>>3332095
Looks solid for what it is

>>3331702
I'd like to see you color with a 100% hard brush. Looks real good.

>>3331309
Pls tell me what bad oil habits I'm developing

Second Character concept I been designing for 3D.

Putting more thought into my character design. Was trying to apply Mythophic character traits and colour theory along with my original concept.

A skinny, scantly clad, anthropomorphic female because I accepted my degeneracy. I liked Sticks, Wendy and Etna designs but being a little paranoid, the proportions and clothing it may lead to awkward questions about design choices. I find that a devolved chin and flare hips makes all the difference. It would also be a bitch to animate with short arms and legs.

Triangles pointing up and down for only having 2 main traits. Ambush and Explosions. Hence the ninja/Eastern clothing. Also I like that designs that come out of japan for fantasy ninjas. Not Naruto wizards... I mean "ninjas".

For personality, I'm thinking dual personality were its apathetic to unhinged depending if she is setting off explosions.

Want to go with bright colours for the fireworks to show danger with here being earth tone for contrast and to function as camo.

Am I doing anything right?

Making Devilman fanart , my first thing that Im trying to finish , fucked up the start with no tumbnail sketches nor did i know colors upfront so im wasting a lot of time choosing what I want midway instead of knowing colors and contrast upfront , but its fun in a learning kind of way. Im starting to understand the need for all that upfront planning that all the tutorials talk about and not rushing in and getting stuck midway

>>3332162
the colours don't hurt my eyes, that's rare on here. ear-dents hat is a cute touch
experiment with some different colours for the fireworks, they kind of look like ice lollies
maybe either darken the hair, or the eyemask, something to add more contrast to the face

the socks aren't the right type to go with japanese sandals, they have elastic ridges, old jap socks don't. same with cargo short pocket

Had to go to Starbucks for some sketching, power is out at my house because of the wind storm, kind of fun drawing people coming in and out of the store.

>>3332223
Thanks for the feed back. I will give it a go after I finish cooking for the day.

>>3332246
Other page

this mornings sketch lotta glaring mistakes but already over it.

>>3331118
Here's where I'm at now.

Thoughts?

new thread time?

>>3332309
Do it!

>>3332246
>>3332250
Drawing from life is a great way to learn and add various poses and mental references for future projects.

>>3332348

new thread

Lineart done.
Had to do it twice, I tried Norasuko's pencils at first but I wasn't satisfied with the result (and also I sucked at using them) so I went back to my pastel pencil.

>>3325332
learn colors,texture and shading