/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3302877
that's a woman, baby

>>3302892
that shoulder hip ratio is telling me that's a man, baby

I would preffer to work on much more other things than a single thing.

I'm gonna die someday and I want to have a lot of things done.

>>3302892
i didn't mention its gender, baby.
and it's clearly an androgynous man.

>>3302896
quality over quantity

>>3302877
>works on a single piece for months
Looks pretty boring for that amount of time.
Hajime Sorayama needs 3 days at max and blows him out of the water.

>>3302922
jesus christ. you're embarrassing

>>3302877
>I heard he uses 80,000 layers
its a meme, he doesnt use remotely that many, he keeps merging them and the numbers stick, however evan lee does use over 500 layers if you look at his videos. its not the layers that make the piece work tho lol, they are just genuinely good.

>>3302927

>>3302877
>he can draw traps really well
Wow that's like being able to draw the most detailed piece of shit

>>3302877
it's a gorgeous piece and certain areas like the face, hands, necklace, etc look so good but looking at big stretches of skin it just looks like bad jpeg artifacting to me. anyone else see it?

>>3302905
>an androgynous man
>smacking a woman's face on a man's body
>androgynous
wut

>>3302938
The working file is huge, and chinks like laying strokes of saturated greens/reds/yellows/anything for no apparent logical reason, so when you downscale, it kinda looks like pixelated noise in places

>>3302930
MY BAD. I got confused. It wasn't 80,000 layers, it was that he worked on an 80,000px canvas. At some point in this video he briefly clicks on his image size and you can see it https://www.bilibili.com/video/av16403740/?from=search&seid=11676521767797375875

>>3302932
? retard

>>3302946
well yeah, still thats not why his paintings are good. the reason he paints that high res is because he paints them like oil, meaning he works with each brush stroke and not trying to smooth it out, when you paint with opacity the color undernear leaks through and what is left is the quality of the stroke. he makes a lot of layers to show progress and make changes, thats really all there is. if he likes the changes he merges it. theres a whole process to it that he explains in his tutorials.

>>3302877
>tfw your own process is basically the same
> just impatient and want the image done in 3-4 days

god give me the streng th to polish that much

>>3302927
>>3302952
no that anon >>3302922 >>3302932
is right, you have ngmi written all over your posts, if you think this fucking pleb is anywhere near as good or better than fucking hajime sorayama

>>3302941
>smacking a woman's face on a man's body
have you actually seen ruan jia? i wouldn't be surprised if this is a thinly veiled self portrait

>>3302922
>Sorayama

anon that's like comparing kim jung gi to katsuhiro fucking otomo

>>3303005
jealous?

>>3302877
I love Ruan's paintings but...
why you gotta put a woman's head on that delicious man-bod bruv? Cmon son.

>>3303017
The androgynous Amano influence is in everything he does, dude.

>>3302957
Speaking of tutorials is there like a compilation or place to go to watch em? Ive only seen some shitty low quality live streams.

>>3303011
holy shit i am
i take back my jugement
the guy is hot af no wonder that's how he draws traps

>>3302877
Am...am I the only one who dislikes this piece? The hair looks flat and the way it looks attaching to the head is super weird. The skin shading is just grainy and odd, apart from the face. Dime-a-dozen stuff like the things turned out by Ikimaru look more appealing that this.

>>3303039
Yeah but even Amano would make men look like men most of the time. Or at least make sure the head looked like it belonged to that body. The contrast between that head and face and the body is really jarring.

>>3303041
bilibili.com has the most (you need to search his name in chinese), but they're mostly low quality live streams anyway.

>>3303061
I don't know about most of the time, Amano's work has that signature brow-ridge/eagle eyed features that sort of meld the masculine/feminine traits together. It's usually only the older men characters that he goes full on masculine caricature mode. Ruan's stolen that but he also tends to blend the strokes on his faces very soft, especially so in OP's pic like you've pointed out. It's a particularly hard contrast with everything else's textured forms, which I think is mostly a composition choice to draw your eyes to the amulet and then downwards to whatever gay shit's happening at his waist.

I'm not trying to suck Ruan's dick and shit on critique but it's just always puzzled me when people bring up his androgynous aesthetic when it's always been his "thing".

>>3303086
>it's just always puzzled me when people bring up his androgynous aesthetic when it's always been his "thing".
Isn't this an asian thing? OP pic is straight up trap, but most of ruan jia's males look like the kind of effeminate 'pretty boy' type that is the male aesthetic in east asia.

>>3303005
Did you watch the video? At one point he says that he uses himself as a reference and then all the comments get spammed with the apparent chinese equivalent of wwwwww.

>>3303041
i will make a tut sometime in the future, explaining not only ruan jia but other industry artists methods/techniques and processes while also doing mock ups. just gotta stay tuned

>>3303086
I've never brought up his androgynous dudes before because it never looked weird to me before. It always seemed to all go together. In this one it stands out to me so much it ruins the immersion for me. I don't think this is usually a problem in his work but personally I don't like how looks in this painting.

>>3303139
The face is way more feminine than his usual androgynous style and with the focal point being this manly ass body it's very jarring.

Personally I love the contrast but I get why you + others wouldn't!

>>3303149
Maybe all his other stuff is commissions

>>3303152
he has client work and personal separated on his site

>>3303159
I'm pretty sure that most people like to draw what they want to fuck

>>3303174
??? whats your point im just saying his stuff is labled on his site faggot

>>3303174
lol did you reply to the right post?

Wait, is this his more recent stuff?
If so, he's somehow getting worse. His legend of the cryptids stuff was phenomenal.

This is kinda, eh.

Fuck. That female face is jarring. Its not even a fapable Trap

>>3303273
fappable traps look like flatchested girls with a hint of a bulge in their painties. this has a completely masculine body, it wouldn't trap anyone.

>>3302877
Emptiness as Strength allows for no distractions

>>3303134
Fair dues my dude. Just post up some new Ruan Jia thread and Ill be there waiting

>>3302877
I think I have it figured out, that is a magic medallion that transforms a woman into a man, she is taking it off and so is part way through the transformation thus having the head of a woman and the body of a man

>>3303011
ew not my cup of tea. I like my men looking like men.

>>3303106
yes but no. saying those k-pop boy groups are the standard of male aesthetics in asia is like saying justin bieber is the epitome of american masculinity in the US. most adult women are lusting after and sleeping with normal men, only teen girls like that kawaii shit.

here enjoy some NORMAL asian male aesthetics

>>3303498
Wrong
Ever heard of host clubs? where women (mostly in their mid 20's to 30's) go and pay large sums of money to drink and talk with men looking like these losers lmao

>>3303503
Those are pretty masculine men tho

>>3303494
he wouldn't like you either, attention whore.

>>3303503
Disregarding their clothes and hairstyles, only two of those have effeminate faces.

>>3303498
>is like saying justin bieber is the epitome of american masculinity in the US
this makes no sense, and you're not getting any point across. the western world is not in question. masculinity in the west and the east are very different in what's socially acceptable, commonplace, and considered attractive.

>>3303498
That is a Canadian model of Taiwanese ethnic. Completely westernized David Beckham-type shit. Your argument is invalid.

>>3303134
Hi, James.

>>3303503
Having been to japan most people think host clubs are gross and women who go there should get psychological help.
Japan has a huge population and only a fringe of a fringe actually thinks hosts are good looking.
You have the same amount or more women who think bald, chubby foreigners are cute and sit around english pubs all night waiting to score.

>80000 layers
>single-handed
>master youkai

You guys talk about these guys as if they were shonen anime villains. He have this method because via trial and error he did a lot and find his way to make things. There are artists that only use one layer. And technically speaking, you'll want more layers if you have to edit stuff easily for you/your client.

You'll find it too if you spend less time here.

lots of work indeed but if the artist is a soulless chink he will only produce some soulless turd, well polished turd but without any real value

>>3304792
I would love to see your work that's full of soul, please post.

Do not sexualize ruan jia
As far your concerned dowm there.. theres nothin. When you think about jia down there, you think about a flat patch of bare skin.

>>3302877
I heard he bought 80,000 dicks and sucked them all

>80 000 layers

Literally unsustainable unless you have like 200 gigs of RAM. Nice meme

>>3302877
You can do that, yeah.

>>3304792
more soul than you'll ever have anyway you useless spiteful talentless autistic basement dweller

>>3304864
I have 50 gigs of ram, I wouln't me surpirsed if higher-end machines used for rendering stff could have more than a hundred. Ram is cheap as shit nowadays.

>>3304864
i got confused. it wasn't 80,000 layers, i was 80,000px canvas.

I heard that he's a master draftsman.

>>3304980
he's a master of light, value and edges. there's no one better than him at that, not even mullins i think.

>>3304982
lol

>>3304980
When I paint I don't even bother with a sketch.

>>3304943
>>3304943

Source? That sounds like it would need quite the computah too

>>3305035
Somewhere in this video he checks his image size and you see it https://www.bilibili.com/video/av16403740/?from=search&seid=11676521767797375875

>>3304980
If you're making a painting you don't need to have a good sketch. This is the problem /ic/ has, they want to be the best at sketching but have terrible actual pieces.

>>3304982
>>3305013
>>3305040
boy are you kids gonna be embarrassed of this dumb shit you say on the internet when you grow up ;)

>>3305040
>This is the problem /ic/ has, they want to be the best at sketching but have terrible actual pieces.
Nice non-sequitur. Any excuse to navel gaze about how much you hate an image board you voluntarily visit, am I right?

>>3305048
I don't know any of the words you just said, but fuck you

>>3305013
>>3305040
man, you totally need a good sketch. I use to think that as well, I would start a painting without having anything planned at all. Just really rough rough sketches.

But the better you plan things out, the tighter your fundamentals are (like the sketch) the easier you will have it... meaning the better the painting will turn out.

Always finish your sketch before moving onto the painting parts. If you can, plan out your values as much as possible as well. I feel like it's a bit hard to realllyyy predict the specific hues but you should at least have a vague idea of the color scheme you're going for too.

I typed out my process awhile a go and saved them but I have no idea where those are. It's pretty much the way every professional artist and illustrator does things. Inspiration (images, paintings, photos, word associations, ect) ->Thumbnailing -> Sketches -> Value Studies -> Color Studies -> Tight Sketch -> Painting

man, you totally need a good sketch. I use to think that as well, I would start a painting without having anything planned at all. Just really rough rough sketches.

But the better you plan things out, the tighter your fundamentals are (like the sketch) the easier you will have it... meaning the better the painting will turn out.

Always finish your sketch before moving onto the painting parts. If you can, plan out your values as much as possible as well. I feel like it's a bit hard to realllyyy predict the specific hues but you should at least have a vague idea of the color scheme you're going for too.

I typed out my process awhile a go and saved them but I have no idea where those are. It's pretty much the way every professional artist and illustrator does things. Inspiration (images, paintings, photos, word associations, ect) ->Thumbnailing -> Quick Reference gathering (from books, internet)-> Sketches -> Value Studies -> Color Studies -> Detailed Reference Gathering (Taking photos of models in matching poses with matching lighting, if you can't take them find some online/books and frankenstein them) -> Tight Sketch -> Painting

>>3302946
>MY BAD. I got confused. It wasn't 80,000 layers, it was that he worked on an 80,000px canvas.

Bullshit he works on an 80,000 pixel canvas. That's retarded big and you'd need like 64 gigs of RAM and it would still chug your system. And there'd be no point. There's literally nothing that would ever require a 80,000px .psd.

Maybe you mean 8,000px. That'd still be bigger than almost any project would require.

>>3305096
>Bullshit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPttA0i-6k

he paints like a fractal algorithm. creating the oil textures by hand

if you're aspiring to make art like a specific person, of course doing what they do is a good idea. do you really have to ask that?

>>3305099
how does this man have that kind of PATIENCE

>>3305102
he has a love and addiction for it

>>3305099

>80,000 pixel canvas
>480p video

ruan please

So do people actually like this guy's art?
It's so juvenile and bad that I always figured it was just another meme around here to pretend that this guy was some sort of art god.

>>3305099

He's clearly working at very high res, but nothing in that video requires 80,000 motherfucking pixels. He might go as high as 15,000 on the longer dimension; hell, even 20k on a big illustration that he spends 300 hours on. But 80,000 is just ludicrous. Do you realize how ludicrous 80,000 pixels is? Open up Photoshop and create an 80,000 pixel canvas. If it doesn't crash your rig outright, try painting on it with a brush big enough to block in big shapes.

Unless someone posts a screenshot of the image size window in one of his videos or a link where you can view an 80,000 pixel Ruan Jia painting that's a 3 gigabyte download, I can't believe he's painting at such a stupid res.

>>3305110

you may not like his subject matter but there's no denying he's a good digital painter.

>>3305110

>>3305110

>>3305111
>Unless someone posts a screenshot of the image size window in one of his videos
I'll find it. I actually saw it during the livestream of that video

>>3305112
Everything he does is about as blurry as >>3305114 's meme image. It's like a shitty photobash you'd see on instagram but with additional veins and shit on the colored attempts.

>>3305116
not even worth a bait meme pic

>>3305118
So people really do like this guy's stuff, huh?
Bizarre. Guess next thing is people will be saying that those knocking on Andrew Loomis are actually serious.

>>3305111
The only reason i buy it is because he used to be a 3d artist.

2d art on a 3d rig 80k seems feasible to me, though I'm not expert on techstuff.

The largest image I've ever seen is about 35k. the painting in that video zooms in a similar amount and there's still no pixelated brushstrokes.

>>3302877
He uses 3d renders to start the faces right?

>>3305133
no, it's all painted from scratch. watch his videos.

>>3305123
I think this is a meme, they are just pretending to like this soulless lump of excrement.

>>3305128

It would just be so pointless. You could spend hundreds of hours meticulously detailing an 80,000 pixel canvas, but you'd never be able to show it to anyone. It'd be too big to leave your computer. There's no client that's going to need or want a canvas that big. To send it you anyone, you'd have to crunch it down so much that 90% of the detail would just get obliterated. It's not that 80,000 pixels is technically impossible, it's just that it's so useless and wasteful.

The biggest Ruan Jia pic I have in my collection is 6,000 pixels across. If he crunched it down 50% from the original image, he's still only working at 12k. If for some reason even this ultra-high res file I have, where all the textures are perfectly readable, is only 25% of the original size, he's still "only" working at 24k. 80k makes no damn sense. The only reason to work that big is to get suuuuuuper detailed, but all the detail would be lost as soon as you size the image down to a resolution that you can actually put on the Internet.

>>3302877
>and thinks 10 hours a day of practice is taking it easy
Going for more than 10 hours is not only unhealthy, but you'll end up paying for it the next day with your productivity.

If you want to learn fast you should draw consistently, and if you're are in crunch mode(10 hours+) all the time you'll crash eventually. On the long term crashing and coming back over, and over means you're wasting more time.

>>3305143
>It would just be so pointless.
He spent 11 months working on this piece.

>but all the detail would be lost as soon as you size the image down
that already happens to him. you don't see any of the tiny scribbles he does on his paintings. but that's one of his techniques, super zoomed in his works look like a mess of lines, but zoomed out they form the look of realistic detail

>>3303086
he actually drew the veins under the skin. That amount of detail is insane. also it's funny to me how people like this spend time perfecting their craft but some shitdick tumblr artist drawing pony porn still rakes in more dough than them.

>>3305151
11 months jesus dude

>>3305217
chill out its not like he spent everyday on it. he had client work to do and lots of other shit. it took him 11 months because its personal so one week he would work on it the next he wont. there is 730 hours in a month, he spent 500 hours on that piece, soooo

>>3305222
>so one week he would work on it the next he wont.
lol you literally don't know this. that piece took a lot of a twists and turns and he admitted to discarding finished areas and starting all over again when he didn't like how it was turning out.

>>3305175
maybe if he spent less time drawing random veins he could learn how light and shadows work instead of this weird random shit he does
pony guys know more about how light and shadow works than this guy

>>3305228
>he could learn how light and shadows work instead of this weird random shit he does
I know you're poorly baiting, but still.

>>3305232
I know you're tasteless, but come on
don't ad hominem me bro

*snib snib* crabs be pinchin

>>3305151

I love that this one is fanart of Planescape: Torment. Ruan Jia has good taste in RPGs

soundtrack for painting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZOuy4YM0AI

>>3302877
Honestly jpg artifacting does half his rendering work.

>>3303011
There's something incredibly sad about a man who's so effeminate that he needs to wear a shirt that identifies him as a boy.

>>3305308
I quite prefer being androgynous

>>3305232
I wish I had this one in original resolution, I want to zoom in on the crown, I bet the details are orgasmic

>>3305224
yeah and? he only worked on it for 500 hours in the span of 11 months what are you getting at?

>>3305308
Boy London is a big fashion brand. Ruan Jia is hip and fashionable

>>3305228
Nah guy knows what he's doing. He's just playing around with the lighting to get the kind of look he wants.

The cool thing about lighting is that when your audience is normies you can play around with it all you want as long as it's somewhat coherant and cool looking. They aren't gonna be able to tell that there's no real light source.

There's no real merit to doing the lighting on a piece 100% correct unless you're doing studies.

>>3305243
Not that guy, but if you actually think Ruanjia doesn't know how color and light works then that is not a matter of taste, you are plain wrong and you yourself know nothing about color and light.

>soulless, over rendered, Chinese concept art

zzzzzz

>>3305417
>you are plain wrong
that's right, you are plain wrong and know nothing about color and light :)

>>3305435
go back to your modern art fag boi
>>3305458
you dont tho.

>>3305435
His work has more soul than every artist on artstation put together.

>>3305096
>>3305111
He has a pretty good PC, and said in his THU talk that he makes the canvas as big as he possibly can without it lagging too much. He doesn't block in big shapes at that size though. He does the block in at a smaller size, blows it up to max size his rig can handle and renders tiny detail for days, then shrinks it down to save out. I don't get why you think 80k is impossible or something.

>>3304943
Well that's definitely more plausible but it would still require a beefy machine, which isn't that unlikely when it's literally his job. I start getting bad framerate at around 15-20k px on the longer end

>>3305224
This image is from where?

>>3305581
>He doesn't block in big shapes at that size though. He does the block in at a smaller size, blows it up to max size his rig can handle and renders
Fuck that explains a lot. I wondered why some parts of his paintings looked weirdly low quality and other parts were sharp. it's because they were painted small and then blew up

>>3305096

10k - 20k canvas is pretty common for those who make illustrations for print

>>3305735
That guy said 80k, not 10-20k. 5-10k is common, 20-30k is what artists like Ruanjia and other chinese render machines use. No one paints in 80k res, that's just stupid.

>>3305695
imagineFX theres a pdf of it somewhere

>>3303011
how old is he I thiought he was like 30+?

>>3305110
>>3305116
>>3305139
not sure if trying to bait or resentful loser beta amateur/beginner artists

>>3306018
he's 32

>>3306018
he is, or is turning this year 35. born 1983

>>3306546
Pfft, I still have 12 years to get as good as him.
Time to fap.

>>3306548
he was good and working professionally by the time he was 17.

>>3302877
I knew I've seen OP's work elsewhere...

>>3306567
I don't see what your point is, japs tend to have a certain similar idealized way of drawing people

>>3303134
hi Sycra

>>3302877
>>3302957
>>3303086
>>3303134
>>3305151
>>3305232
>dreamy skinny girl
>stares into nothingness
>hours and hours of delegated masturbation
>"80,000" layers

kitsch
i
t
s
c
h

>>3302957
Is this new? Damn. Ruan Jia watches Fate too? I think this might be the first time I've seen him do Fan art.

>>3308851

>>3305099
So that's the secret to getting the oil texture. Just paint it. By hand.

>>3305308
TOP KEK TOP KEK

>>3308467
what do you mean by delegated masturbation

>>3303011
what's up with the reichsadler?

>>3302877
Who's the artist???

>>3311053
I wonder

>>3311034
masturbating over a kitsch picture for 40 hours

>>3302877
the left arm seems kinda small.

Do it again and I'll give you my full critique.

>>3302877

Has there ever been a full size psds of his floating somewhere?

>>3311282
No, but he's shared this pic that seems to indicate that he just makes a new layer every now and then and then just merges it down.
So I reckon his psds are just the nearly finished wip with a layer or two on top, so nothing really interesting to see.
And the biggest res of this one available is only like 2k high so you cant really zoom in that much.

>>3311303
>>>2467 LAYERS
it's not 80,000, but still more than i'd ever use. that goes to show how much time he must have spent on that

>>3302938
I thought he made the body rougher on purpose to make the face stand out.

>>3302877
>I heard he uses 80,000 layers, works on a single piece for months
Unironically if you do either of these you're probably shit

I'd guess the OP picture took Ruan maybe 3 or 4 hours. He's just always doing concept/contract work he can't post.

>>3311325
What? He's got 2 active layers + the background layer in total in that screenshot. When people wonder about how many layers an artist uses, they usually mean layers they keep around, not the total number of temporary layers that have been created and merged over the course of the painting process. Anyone accumulates hundreds or thousands of layers that way if they just work long enough on a single image.

>>3311444
>I'd guess the OP picture took Ruan maybe 3 or 4 hours.
Kek. Try 3-4 months. Ruanjia himself says he spends months on his finished paintings. His concept art work looks very different in terms of rendering and finish.

>>3305151
not non stop. that would make him the most inefficient human being to ever exist.

>>3311472
no. did you not read his Q&A? update your facts retard

>>3311192
oh its you again, can you like leave this board now? all you ever do is call his work kitsch which has no meaning here buckaroo

>>3312885
i'll stick around just for you, baby
the more you nag and cry, the longer i lurk

>>3311444
>He's just always doing concept/contract work he can't post
Surely we'd be able to spot these shits? His style is very distinctive.

>>3311472
>Kek. Try 3-4 months. Ruanjia himself says he spends months on his finished paintings.
Outdated information. He's a lot faster and a lot more efficient now. Try watching a video of him painting before you spread misinformation.

>>3313208
Style never transfers to final product unless you're the flagship artist like peyravernay or shinkawa

>>3302877
ew

>>3313212
this, I watched a vid of his on yt where he gets a painting to about completion level in under an hour

>>3313212
I've watched a bunch of videos of him painting.

>>3314007
Post it then. Chances are what you call "about completion" is just a nicely blocked in value structure. The kind of detail you see in the OP images takes forever to achieve and he certainly doesn't do it in a fucking hour. But go ahead and prove me wrong.

>>3314007
>where he gets a painting to about completion level
"painting"
lol. gotta love that twisted terminology

>>3311470
this

I usually keep about 4 layers going on any given image at any given time, but I can cycle in/out new layers maybe 50 times over the course of a project.

just googled some zoom-in's of this guys work btw, all the "detail" these anons keep talking about just looks like shitty brush strokes to me.

>>3314578
>all the "detail" these anons keep talking about just looks like shitty brush strokes to me.

Yeah, I'm sure you're a fucking Sargent at the micro-detail level

>>3314007
>painting to about completion level in under an hour
kek, so you think OP image only took minutes, huh? The autistic level of detail in the hands, and how RJ likes to draw scribble lines of random color with a small pixel brush, it probably took him at least 1 month.

>>3314732
i love how people who dont even paint shove their shitty greasy american opinions on how masters paint that includes you fagot

>>3314772
>fagot

phew

>>3314578
Then you don't know how detailing works. Go find a fine art master work in a museum, the closer you get to the canvas, the rougher the strokes become until they seem like a random splat of colors and values. But they are definitely not, as is obviously eminent by looking at the piece from mid range. If you fine-detail certain elements of the painting, it might lose all it's information when looking at it from standard range, break the contrast and over value parts that shouldn't stand out.

>>3311282
I've got one. But it's obviously shrunk down to about 300mb. You can't expect anyone to share a 2gig PSD, and since that's the cap, you literally can have 1-2 layers if working on such a huge canvas, otherwise you can't save it.

>>3314732
why are you such a pathetic arselicker for "RJ" Ruan Jia?
Is it you who is spamming /ic/ with "oh look at what Ruan Fifa threw on twitter this morning!" all the time?

>>3314971
no thats me, but why are you such a pathetic RJ hater? go suck a fuck

>>3314971
that post wasn't even ""arselicking"", although he deserves it. he's a master.

>>3314986
So what's your schedule? Do you shit out a "RJ" thread every month? It's annoying as fuck. If you like his stuff, don't come begging here for people to agree with you.

>"Hey guys! Please look at this new Ruan Jia crap here!"
>"I want you to agree with me! I love Ruan Jia, you have to love him, too!"
you are an annoying little cunt, you know that.

His work is superficial, decorative, rid of any concept other than "pretty grill, ornaments!", he copies from professional photoshoots just like any other asshole, sucks at backgrounds, is a pathetic little wimp trying to hide behind a leather jacket.
not everyone likes kitsch as much as you do. can you start threads on that topic?

>>3315006
looks like too much effort to be bait.
and that anon didn't start this thread, I did (≖ ͜ʖ≖)

>>3315009
>I don't want to accept other opinions
>I call bait

>>3315006
brah ive only ever posted 1 thread lol...

>>3315006
>little wimp trying to hide behind a leather jacket.
hey man thats your opinion i love him
id blow him any day

>>3315229
>hey man thats your opinion i love him
>id blow him any day
hey man thats your opinion i hate his work
id spit in his face any day

>>3302877
R-reverse trap??

>>3315453
your need to reply to every positive comment about him with a negative one is starting to smell like jealousy

>>3315476
He's so fucking jealous lmao

>>3315476
>>3315483
sure i am. I always wanted to be a tiny, insecure chinese guy who spends most of his time in his apartment, scratching a plastic board and drawing girls with their eyes half-closed.

/ic/ is periodically spammed with Ruan Jia arselicker threads. how come? do you weaklings need reassurance so bad?

>>3302877

That's him figuring shit out from scratch. All you have to do is study his work. How long it will take? Well that depends on your own intelligence not to mention other factors like time and various responsibilities.

>>3315487
>insecure chinese guy who spends most of his time in his apartment

Ruan Jia is enjoying life and earning tons of $$ through his work. Stop projecting and start practicing.

>>3302877


I'm not yet a professional but I practice on average 8 hours a day, 13 hours is my peak on good days. I know this because i have an app which keeps track of my time.

I'm not surprised that ruan jia thinks 10 hours a day is lazy since he's a professional. I'm personally aiming to draw for 15 hours a day, I just haven't developed the endurance for it but I'm getting there.

>>3302877

Months to finish an artwork? That's too much, unless he's making hyper realistic fantasy pieces in 2D.

On average though, it should be 3 - 7 days.

>>3315903
So by your logic Bouguereau is a bad artist?
Not comparing the two, Bouguereau is on another fucking level.

>>3315487
I mean, you are pressumably an artist I would imagine. Ruanjia is better at your profession /hobby of choice than you will ever be. No matter how hard you try, you will never surpass him on a technical level. I'm sure that must sting at least on some level considering how salty you sound.

>>3315973
or you could try to compare a winegrower to a whiskey producer, an architect to a car designer, a pop composer to a move score composer

i'm not even working in digital and these shallow themes in Ruan Fifas work would make me cringe 24/7 even as commissions.
i think you have a problem with people who like different things for different reasons. i can't understand the hype about Ruan Fifa.

>>3315964
this thumbnail gave me tripophobia

>>3315964
When he said "That's too much", he obviously meant that's too much considering what Ruan Jia is producing (digital instead of oils) and the industry he works in (fast turnarounds needed).

>>3315964
the two really don't compare. and there's a big difference in painting like fifty models like Bouguereau and RJ fumbling around with stupid skin textures with his ornament ridden androgyneous figure that looks like you've put the head from one doll on the body of another.

>>3315988
>i think you have a problem with people who like different things for different reasons
Not at all, I'm perfectly fine with you not liking Ruanjia's work, but isn't this exactly what you are doing? You are the one who is trying to convince people that they should stop liking Ruanjia's work and gets really agitated and angry when people talk positively about Ruanjia.

>>3315989
I see where you're coming from but A) It's a personal painting, no one paid for him to paint the OP pic, so he could've spent years on it if he so pleased
B) That's an illustration, so even if it happened to be commissioned he would've likely been given 1-2 months to complete it, ie the standard time given to freelance illustrators, atleast if it's for a AAA company, smaller companies often require faster turnarounds because of lack of funds.
>>3315992
Nah i reckon Bouguereau would also spend weeks on paintings with far fewer bodies in them.

I'm no Jia cocksucker, I like his work but he's not in my top 10, but to sit here and say that he's a bad artist is honestly very embarrassing for all of ya'll.
Don't like him? Fine more power to you but to call him shit for simply not catering to your taste is fucking childish my dudes

>>3315992
Bouguereaou most likely spent a year+ on that painting. He spent months on his regular paintings with 1-2 models in it.

>>3315988
>i think you have a problem with people who like different things for different reasons

boy, talk about pots and kettles...

>>3316021
funny how you get shit flinged at you if you dare to say you don't like Ruan Jia, which is exactly what always happens in these threads. so you say, i'm starting it?

>>3316000
>I'm no Jia cocksucker, I like his work but he's not in my top 10, but to sit here and say that he's a bad artist is honestly very embarrassing for all of ya'll.
>Don't like him? Fine more power to you but to call him shit for simply not catering to your taste is fucking childish my dudes
The allover result for me is that Ruan Jia sucks, but of curse it can be split up:

in terms of digital drawing and technique: 9.5/10
composition generally (rather centered, often "X"-shaped): 5-7/10
color palett and variety: 4/10
thematically: 0/10 shallow "sexy" copies of models

get your head around the fact that not everyone is content with something doing masturbatory detail on sexy slim chicks in fatasy gowns, just like not everybody out there is a fan of Gottfried Helnwein's work, although he is an internationally renowned artist and by far more significant that Ruan Fifa.

>>3316021
funny how you get shit flinged at you if you dare to say you don't like Ruan Jia, which is exactly what always happens in these threads. and you're saying i'm starting it?

>>3316000
>I'm no Jia cocksucker, I like his work but he's not in my top 10, but to sit here and say that he's a bad artist is honestly very embarrassing for all of ya'll.
>Don't like him? Fine more power to you but to call him shit for simply not catering to your taste is fucking childish my dudes
The allover result for me is that Ruan Jia sucks, but of course it can be split up like this:

in terms of digital drawing and technique: 9.5/10
composition generally (rather centered, often "X"-shaped): 5-7/10
color palett and variety: 4/10
thematically: 0/10 shallow "sexy" copies of models

with the latter point, the themes, being what infuriates me the most. i find absolutely nothing interesting about skinny half-asleep androgynous figures in ornamental kitsch armor. i can understand that other people do, but that this guy is being praised like the messiah of digital illustration is beyond me.
maybe get your head around the fact that not everyone is content with something doing masturbatory detail on sexy slim chicks in fatasy gowns, just like not everybody out there is a fan of Gottfried Helnwein's work, although he is an internationally renowned artist and by far more significant that Ruan Fifa.

>>3316056
No, you got shit flinged at you because you said something hilariously hypocritical.... and I think you still don't realize that, so I'm sure more shit is coming your way.

>>3316056
>i find absolutely nothing interesting about skinny half-asleep androgynous figures in ornamental kitsch armor. i can understand that other people do, but that this guy is being praised like the messiah of digital illustration is beyond me.
you act like he's one of those one-trick-pony artists that can only do 2/4 view portraits.

>>3316056
>color palett and variety: 4/10
HA thanks for the chuckle my dude, go and color pick some of his paintings Crabber Mc. Crabbersson

>>3316065
this >>3316064 in terms of color, feels as natural and balanced as Avatar concept art

>>3316070

>>3315903
>Months to finish an artwork? That's too much, unless he's making hyper realistic fantasy pieces in 2D.

But that's exactly what he does, and actually goes beyond that. As a good artist you want to twist reality, not just copy it. Especially since Ruan doesn't use silly obvious 3d models and photobash (like koreans on applibot), but paints from scratch. You obviously couldn't comprehend since your're not painting anywhere close to that complexity, but it does really take time to create something, that one such as Ruan, could be "satisfied" with.

>>3315964
>>3315992
>>3316000
>>3316002
That's kinda unrealistic..
a) Bouguereau had like 50 years of experience when he has done most of these pieces
b) Old masters spent months, or years on some paintings, their atelier was full of experimental and unfinished pieces.
c) Ruan's work can be appreciated even when zoomed in

That being said, imagine how good Ruan Jia will be in 20 years.

>>3316056
just sad

>>3316088
>just sad
just sad? do you have a problem with people not enjoying the same things as you?
you are the absolute cringiest fanboy here.

>That being said, imagine how good Ruan Jia will be in 20 years.
glad you're not the measure of everything. Ruan Jia is unknown.

>>3316088
this is a painting by Ruan Fifa. when he can't have his ctrl + z, he is helpless and completely mediocre. look at the fucking mess of a hair and the brownish, green color mess.

>>3316091
>still doesn't know what he did...

I'd be more butthurt, but now I just feel bad for the little guy.

>>3316109
it's beautiful. the lips especially are better than any other i've seen in traditional painting. his command of colors in any medium make him all the more godly. it's also still very clearly his style, the way he paints the expression of eyes and everything, so I bet this is without reference. oh i'm about to cum

>>3316124
your fanboy-dom is uncurable. to any trained eye in painting, the flaws in color mixing, brush gesture, composition, background and contrast are obvious.

you are easily impressed with polished art. stick with that and you'll be happy. you won't be happy with anything that requires a brain, art theory, history and background knowledge, that's for sure.

>>3316109
why dis he render colored eyes so weird. The blue eyes were all washed out

>>3316696
It looks like she has cataracts, and it;s kind of gimmicky, but I like it.

>>3302922
>Hajime Sorayama
Yeah, at least Hajime understands basic fucking anatomy lmao.

>>3315988
Can you post your work?

>>3316109
>someone who's mostly digital has a hard time with traditional

wow, that's crazy.

>>3316109
honestly pretty good fampai, sure he just slashed at the hair but everything else is mamma mia

>>3316128
Why does everyone on here feel the need to project their feelings on everybody

>>3316109
Kek, Ruanjia does like 1 oil painting every 2 years and he's STILL at least 10 times better at it than you are. Literally SEETHING with anger and jealousy. And now we also know that you're the same guy who went completely mental the last thread we had where you were posting these weird fucking images with cropped out faces and just the hair showing, trying to prove some strange point. OBSESSED!

>>3317145
>weird fucking images with cropped out faces and just the hair showing
nice to see that you have no idea about the painting process. it is very common to blank out parts of the painting to see if something works or needs to be changed. real painters also like to use a mirror to get a fresh look at the composition. there's no composition in Fifas portrait, it's flat an centered. The hair is a lazy mess, but again, you and all the other Ruan Jia cocksuckers can't see that. Your minds are boggled by the cute marble eyes he does and the candy lips. That's all you need. literally the very definition of superficiality.

>trying to prove some strange point
kek at your absolute ignorance. seriously. the hair is so fucking lazy, shitty and brown, it could be Chewbacca. He copied a stupid photo (it shows in the unnatural distortion) and tried to leave "virtuous" painterly hinting.
>"A cobbler should stick to his last."

>pic related: 10x better than Fifa. and it's a real painting, too. actually, quite possible he tried to copy the hair from this.

>>3302877
so fucking what?

>>3316056
hi tumblerina

>>3317152
I didn't ask you to reurgitate the same drivel from that mentioned thread, you sperg. Calm yourself and find a way to deal with your Ruanjia obsession quietly and for yourself, will you?

>>3317158
>trying to prove some strange point
>posting these weird fucking images with cropped out faces
keksimus maximus
tell me, do you even paint?

>>3317152
holy shit just stop youre not convincing anyone lmao...

>>3317164
thanks, i was looking for more examples how fucking bad he is with traditional media. can't "zoom in" and ctrl z on paper, can he?

let's do it the other way around. what do you find good in this drawing?

>>3317175
you're a rotten person

>>3317193
the head looks like a fucking watermalon >>3317164

are you this blinded by arselicking him?

This thread is yet another proof of how toxic /ic/ is. Do yourself a favor and don't waste more of your time "discussing" artists.

>>3317204
hey anon, post examples of cg artwork you like?

>>3317211
>ron julia
>"artist"

>>3317214
this for example
great mood, good colors, great texture work and contrast.

>>3317214

>>3317217
>>3317218
AAAHAHAHAHA

>>3316091
>>3316128

>just sad? do you have a problem with people not enjoying the same things as you?
you are the absolute cringiest fanboy here.

No, it just means how obvious it is that you're some sad toxic artist, who cannot, and will not, appreciate good art, just because. Why are you living under a rock? Ofc he's well known.

>>3316109
For not being his medium of choice, that's pretty good. Good values. Also this is like 7 years old. Digital artists get easily bored with traditional as it's much more restricting.

>>3317217
this is fuckin great. But it's not yet close to RuanJia tier, lacks the experience.

>>3317211
>toxic
lel, you're on the wrong site altogether, m8

>>3317214
another example

>>3317244
hobby boards used to be decent before everything was infected by /b/ and /pol/ idiots

>>3317217
>>3317218
>>3317248
I can't tell which of these, if any, is the actual "ruan fifa" fag. but for the record all three of these are so bad, I'm sure the artists themselves wouldn't compare themselves to Ruan Jia.

>>3317240
>But it's not yet close to RuanJia tier
the absolute cum-gobbling RJ fanboy talking bullshit. lol, the extent of delusion is incredible.

>>3317248
terrible foreshortening

>>3317248
this is some other anon, posting a RJ. my posts are >>3317217 and >>3317218 and that's all I've saved on this computer. i hate digital to the bone, especially things like pic related. it's frp, another RJ "masterpiece" where he goes right into the kitsch emulation of painterly brush-like textures. it doesn't get any more gay than this shit. it's right up there with your sunset painting in terms of kitsch elements. pure nostalgia for what digital will never reach: actual painting.
and here you have some cum-dumpster fanboys, defending Ruan Fifa for sucking balls at actual painting, where he can't resort to all his digital tricks and would actually have to work with a physical medium.

digital will always be: flat, dull, fake and inferior >>3311675

>>3317308
art isn't video games, you don't have to be an obnoxious prick. it doesn't score you points to grief artists. etc.

>>3317175
yeah sure, youre the only one here with the superior taste it seems

>>3317312
it seems like it's some sort of score / dick measuring afterall ---> >>3317155

>>3317308
give up lol, ruan is the best and will always be the best, does that make you mad huh??

>>3317316
just because you barely know a handful of chinese basement dweller digital artists, doesn't mean that's the end of the ranking. you're drooling over RJ like some pimple faced teenie girl or faggot would over One Direction, or Take That in the 90s with poster of the faggots all over their bedroom. You are limited to fantasy concept artists and proud of it, as it seems.

Ron Mueck, Chuck Close, Gottfried Helnwein, Franz Gertsch are some of the realist and hyperrealist painters that are actually known worldwide. Nobody knows Ruan Jia. He is a stupid commission drawing blogger. Your knowledge ends with kitsch-tier concept art bloggers who concentrate on medievil, steampunk and cultural mixing kitsch styles. and you#re seriously proud of that?

all you little children ever want to achieve is your standard "dragon slayer" concept art. it's being posted every fucking day on /ic/, like right now: >>3317273
no wonder you all fall for RJ and all the standard cinematic kitsch styles. it's all you are ever exposed to.

>>3317325
and here's the Fifa version of that: >>3316064

"huh, dragon attacks medievil city. what a brilliant, unique scenario!"

>>3317320
what is your problem?

>>3317320
Everyone knows RJ in the CA world you dumb fuck

>>3317320
>Ron Mueck
that one dude that made the nigger head?

>>3317330
and the CA world has literally no roots in art whatsoever. it's a closed field, only producing concept art for a linear usage: as storyboards, for movies, for backgrounds, advertisements, decoration, preproduction, visualization … functional and disposable. in short, the opposite of art.
somebody wrote that RJ "will be known worldwide in 20 years". total fucking bullshit.

>>3317337
>nigger

edgy

>>3317338
shut up retard

>>3317320
So this is what it's like when an autist spergs out...

>>3317337
>let's pick something so i can pull of a lame joke, hehe

gotta love the lame comebacks
lmfao

>>3317340
>shut up retard
>>3317342
>So this is what it's like when an autist spergs out...
>>3317329
>what is your problem?

>>3317343
(Gottfried Helnwein btw)

>>3317344
go draw retard

>>3317343
never said he was a bad...

>>3308467
this

>>3317291
That's unfair anon, and makes you look like an muh animustyle beg tier.
>>3317217 and >>3317248 are pretty solid.

>>3317338
>CA world has no root in the art world
Yeah and your actual cerebrum has no root in your brain

>>3317320
you mad brah? you will never be as good as rj, no one will. accept it.

>>3317338
>somebody wrote that RJ "will be known worldwide in 20 years". total fucking bullshit.
he already is. every time he teaches somewhere around the world, people flock to take selfies with him. it's already happened in Italy, Seattle, Canada, Russia, and China, from just the ones I know of.

>>3317362
holy fuck rj my babe

>>3317362
He looks more masculine in this pick, but I'd drop the blond color.

>>3317360
>>3317367
>>3317371

>you will never be as good as rj, no one will. accept it.
lmfao
so fucking glad i don't look like a bowlingball with slits for eyes and a straw for a neck >>3317362
RGay, the kitsch idol of /ic/
I get it, most of you Ruan Fifa fans would suck the dogshit off of his shoes, because his dragons and skinny medievil grills look so fucking hang-on-my-fridge worthy.

are you all chinks by any chance? no wonder all you chinks can do is steal from the west.

>>3317603
you sound like you make some beautiful art

>>3317603
>I get it, most of you Ruan Fifa fans would suck the dogshit off of his shoes

>says MOMAron, the "man" who desperately wants Chris O'fecalphiliac's poopdick up his shithole

>>3317346
>go draw retard
why would someone draw ron julia?

>>3317611
says anonymous chink slit eye loli fan, who says being pedophilic isn't bad, because it's actually "joy of the newborn!"

>>3317603
yes i am a chink problem bitch? i love ruan jia now and forever, youre not changing my opinion.

>>3317631
>yes i am a chink problem bitch? i love ruan jia now and forever, youre not changing my opinion.
thoughts so. Untermensch.

>>3317633
lol mad that you will never be good as me punk bitch lol oolol lol stay mediocre pal

>>3317635
ching chang chong! ping pang pong!
suffocate in smog, you slit-eyed little stain.
go find Don Ruan Fifa at some comic fair and suck his tiny 2'' dick

>>3317642
>suck his tiny 2'' dick
still larger than yours then :^)

>>3317635
"Hi, my namo iso ping pong and I rove Ruan Gaya"

>>3317644
how come chinese want to look western?
why do chinese artists try so hard to emulate western and esp. middle european painting styles?
why is there almost nothing genuinely new and authentic coming out of china, but only cheap reproductions?

mfw Ruan Gaya is the epitome of this: copying western fantasy art - dragons, armor, cloths, stories.

another revealing quote by this pedophilic chink:
>tfw u dont have cute loli sister like ruan jia
why even live

>>3317656
trying too hard 2/10

>>3317642
? what makes you think i wont? ill do more than than that ill be his slave

>mfw reporting MOMAron for racism even though I'm probably more racist than he is

>>3317662
>ill be his slave
i bet
with your education and horizon, you'd suck off a hobo for a mars bar.

>>3317663
sleazy, cowardly chink faggot
you're losing and what do you do? you report. as usual.
it's all this little bitch is really capable of.

>>3317664
for a bar? give me some credit, id do it for free

>>3317669
i cant announce it but i used a certain site function against you xD

>>3317669
Trying unsuccessfully to dox people while making impotent threats against them is sleazy. I'm just sending you back to the padded room you belong in you schizophrenic retard lol

>>3317683
>threats
wow, you are getting creative! that's new!
do you often shit your pants prematurely? where in the fuck is that threat you talk about?

>>3317677
gotcha. reported you for that.

>>3317683
>impotent threats
oh, you want me to sign attall139 to various cp and other related websites? i'll be happy to do that.
i'll sign attall up for all kinds of shit now. thanks for giving me that idea ;)

>>3317677
>>3317683
you know, all this bitching and whining really confirms that you are in fact attall139, the gay wannabe RJ

>>3317685
>"where is the threat he says", immediately following it up with one of the typical pathetic threats and histrionic multi-post outbursts he'd levy against the random person he's deluded himself to be me in his deranged numale mind

Enjoy your ban, psycho. You've shown us all once again the typical disjointed mental state of the kind of waifish pseudo-intellectual sperg that would unironically namedrop Chris "O'fecalphiliac" Ofili and George "Chincock" Condo as the subjects of their phallic idol worship lmao

>>3317706
hi, Nambo ;)
still drawing pedophilia?

>>3317706
gotcha, bitch.
hows that painting of your rotten, wrinkly granny going?

>>3305079
Thanks anon, I think a lot of people forget about this.

>>3317677
guess he was banned for this himself, lmfao.
great job, Nambo!

>>3319376
Why would I be banned? The fact you keep unsuccessfully trying to pin some identity on me and attacking it impotently in the same manner you attack other men's anal cavities in the back alley behind the asylum you call an art school is absolutely precious though. Get a life you mincing eurotrash queer.

>>3317362

did the russian thot suck his peen

This RJ sperg reminds me of moma anon. Probably he is.

>>3319655
Okay. What a sad mentally ill person.

>>3302892
where are the boobs then ?

>>3305079
Thank you, i will try and use this on my next painting

>>3302922
God, I fucking hate /ic/.

>>3304980
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

crabs

>>3304792
I find a lot of white supremacists saying shit like this haha. Because statistics show Asians on average have higher IQ than whites, they have to think up some reason why whites are still superior... so they say, "sure they're smart, but white people are smarter than blacks AND we have a soul!!!"

Really pathetic. Just accept Asians are the superior race, why isn't just being better than blacks enough for you?

After seeing these threads for so long, I'm beginning to think that there really are people who LIKE this guy's turds.
All this time I've been assuming that it was all ironic shitposting everytime someone pretended to be a fangirl. It's the only way it made sense due to how fucking bad this guy's shit is.

>>3321071
stay jelly

>>3321073
is this an ironic post

be honest

>>3302877
tHIS IS not GOOD. i draw better nudes naked.

>>3305040
I feel the same way

>>3313028
wth meng

He's obviously a very skilled digital painter and his pictures look gorgeous but
>>3305435
>>3308467
have a point. The subject matter is just so boring.

>>3305370
Isn’t that the Nazi war eagle....KEK. Gonna check this brand out immediately.

>there isn't a single video about how to get those extreme details in
I want to know how they go from having solid values to not fucking up said values with that crazy amount of brush strokes. Every video both Ruanjia's and Wei Feng's end before they put serious details in. Fuck.

>>3322312
How could they fuck up the values at that stage? They can just color pick what's already there and stay in that value range.

>>3322331
That's not how they do it though. You can clearly see zooming in on stuff that is 100% in the lit area they have some strokes with dark values which do not belong in that area, but they work nonetheless because they're so small you can barely perceive them while zoomed out. Like in the clavicle area >>3302877 . Also the reverse happens in the darkest shadow area like the left part of the neck, you can see a dot-like pattern of a much lighter value. This happens all over the painting and I have no idea how this could be replicated, pretty sure they don't put the mini-brushstrokes in one by one, there's far too many of them and they also seem very regular.

>>3322343
I think it's just the chroma that's throwing you off. The intense pink makes the values seem higher than they really are. If you put it in greyscale the values around the neck and clavicle work fine up close. There's a bit of a texture effect in these areas which contrasts with the smooth, blended edges of the face.

Generally though, if you want to add in texture or highlights that blend a little better into your underpainting then try making these effects on a new layer and adjusting the opacity of this layer so that parts of the structured values show through.

>>3322343
they are painted it and its just painting at a high res with opacity glaze over the right areas and ull get an impression of it zoomed out, its nothing more than that...

>>3323127
Only thing that really bothers me about this painting is the head just seems way too smooth and feminine for the body.

>>3303086
that collar is sublime